Biblical Leadership Show
The Biblical Leadership Show podcast explores timeless principles of leadership through a biblical lens, offering insightful discussions and practical wisdom for leaders seeking to integrate faith and leadership in their personal and professional lives. Join us as we delve into biblical narratives, lessons, and values to inspire and equip leaders to make a positive impact in their communities and organizations.
Biblical Leadership Show
Toasting to Authenticity: The Celebratory Blend of Core Values, Biblical Parallels, and Leadership Presence
Join us as we pop the champagne for our 25th episode, where Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey raise a toast to the essence of authentic leadership. Discover how aligning with your core values isn't just about personal integrity but forms the cornerstone of influential leadership. In a vibrant discussion, we uncover the impact of life experiences in highlighting virtues like honesty and humility, and we share anecdotes that illustrate the power of being fully present. Get ready to chuckle along with our dad-joke intermissions while we invite you to ponder the alignment of your daily actions with your deepest beliefs.
Ever wondered how the teachings of the good book coincide with corporate strategies? We've got answers. Dr. Dean and I dissect the parallels between biblical authenticity and transparent leadership, showing how openness about goals and values can sculpt a leadership style that others truly relate to. We tackle the authenticity of churchgoers and the intentions that fuel various life choices, offering insights into how these motivations influence trust and community spirit.
Rounding out our celebration, we navigate the nuances of communication—honoring the different ways we express ourselves and the importance of self-awareness in authentic interactions. Lean in as we reflect on lessons from recent corporate events that underscore the power of presence and credibility, and why listening might just be the most underrated leadership skill that also helps you walk the Christian talk. We're excited to have you join the conversation and encourage you to swing by our website to share your thoughts and, if you're brave enough, your best dad jokes.
Oh, come on now. Mm-hmm, yeah, uh-huh, yeah, come on, come on, all righty. Welcome to another exciting, exciting, very exciting episode of the Biblical Leadership Show. My name is Tim Lansford.
Speaker 2:And I am Dr Dean Posey.
Speaker 1:Dr Dean, how are you doing?
Speaker 2:today I'm doing fantastic and you know this is number 25.
Speaker 1:25?.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:It's crazy, isn't it? That is crazy. We're just having such a good time and we still have people downloading these things. It's amazing, that is awesome. I mean we're not millionaires yet over it. But you know we're trying. We're up to four listeners.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, that's better. Last week we doubled from last week, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1:All right, we might have a few more, but hey, if you're not familiar with us, we come in here and talk a little bit about the Bible. The Bible, the biblical leadership, and that's what I was going to say. Talk about the Bible, a little bit of corporate leadership, and we throw in some dad jokes just because we can, just because it's our show. Yes, exactly right, and we want to have fun.
Speaker 2:All right. What are we talking about today? We're talking about authenticity.
Speaker 1:Authenticity yeah.
Speaker 2:That's a unique one. You know it's so important about being authentic, being true to who you are, but we're going to go back several shows because you mentioned this and you teach this in your leadership seminars about the importance of having core values and so being authentic you need to be authentic means to be intruded one's character, but also aligning with your core values, and so I know we talked about that, and if our listeners all four of them don't have maybe five today, maybe, five Maybe five, don't have core values.
Speaker 2:I would encourage you to spend some time If you're a person of prayer. Spend some time in that If you read the Bible, which I hope you do. Spend some time reading the Bible and write down for yourself. You know three, four, maybe five core values, and then begin to be honest with yourself. Are these core values that I hope to live to someday? Are these core values that I actually live? Am I pretending to do this, but I'm really not. And so to me being authentic right off the bat, one of the foundations is aligning with your core values.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, excuse me one of my things that I sort of had jotted down notes that I think that one of the big things in authenticity is going to be a tough word, as we keep going throughout the course of the day.
Speaker 2:Honesty, transparency, humility was a big one for me.
Speaker 1:You know if you can go through, and I think you know once you know I die the graying for business purposes and you have the hairdresser thin yours out a little bit as well, you know. But I think as you get a little bit gray hair, I think that authentic self comes out a little bit. Where you, where it's not a I don't care you, just you lose the about appearances. You lose the trying to make everybody happy in the world At least that's me. I don't know you still could be a people pleaser. You're a different personality than me, but I'm pretty sure that I know you well enough that you know it's. It's one of those things that you do and I think that comes with with age. I think it comes with, I mean, you know different core values that you're talking about and I think this all adds up. You know, over the course of your life.
Speaker 2:Yes, and so let's just get down to some real, practical, basic things about authenticity. And I'm sure whoever you know listening, I'm sure, tim, you've seen it, I've seen it when people go to a restaurant and take out, you know, take their spouse, or their girlfriend, boyfriend, what you know, fiance, whatever, so many times I'll be sitting with my wife, we'll be talking, I'll look across the room and I'll see a couple sitting at the table, maybe next to us, and both of them are on their phone and I'm thinking, wait a minute, if you could be on your phone at home. You know so to me, part of being authentic is being present at the moment. So when you're with a person, you give them your undivided attention. You're not thinking about what you're going to say after they say something. You're not trying to be distracted about what's on your phone. You're present in the moment.
Speaker 2:And that would be true if you're an employer, an employee, if you're a parent, if you're a child. You know you want to be present at the moment and focus all your attention on the and the. You know the job at hand or the person at hand is so easy to be inauthentic and think and pretend that you're focusing on some person that's sitting in front of you or standing in front of you, but you're really. Your mind is on something entirely different, and I think that right there is a good example of being authentic you want to be present in the moment with the person you're with.
Speaker 1:What'd you say? I was right.
Speaker 2:You were on your phone, Tim. I was on my phone. What are you talking about Checking your email?
Speaker 1:No, I really wasn't, but. I couldn't resist.
Speaker 2:It was just like I got it. That's not even the exact joke. That was pretty funny, I gotta say it, I gotta say it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, here's one of the things and I even try to do that with my kids. You know we go to dinner and you know the kids, nowadays they just I'll play games. They want that stimulation of that. All the time I'm like, hey, here's the thing, it's we're going to enjoy. You know you're out with your friends, we're having dinner with people. Enjoy your friends. You know you can talk to them, you can get on the phones, you can do whatever. And you know I don't care if, you know, four kids at the table have their phones. And you know, most of the time, most of the time right, depending on where we're doing, how long it is on the food and where we're at but most of the time, you know, we say no electronics at dinner because we don't want that. We want that person.
Speaker 1:I want my kids to be able to develop those social skills to be, able to entertain themselves, not have that constant stimulation in their brain and not know how to talk to people, Like so many of the people in the world are sort of doing nowadays right, oh, exactly right.
Speaker 2:And so I'm wondering if part of the fear of being authentic is stimulated by the fear of rejection. And so we don't know, you know we're talking to a person. We don't know if they're going to accept us, reject us, we don't know if they're looking at our physical features and they've already tuned us out, and so we're trying to maybe hedge the truth a little bit, just so that we don't get rejected by them, and I think we're doing a disservice to ourself instead of just being truly authentic who we are, stand up for what we believe in and not waver, and I think that's one reason why core values are so, so important. Yeah.
Speaker 1:From a leadership standpoint. You know one of the things that you know the core values resonate right in there with corporate leadership. But I think you know the self-awareness, you know authentic leaders, they know their beliefs, they know their personal values, they know their goals and what they're trying to do. And the more that you can be aware of your strengths and limitations, I think that comes in and comes out as a more authentic person, how you present yourself.
Speaker 1:One of the biggest things in corporate leadership, I say, is transparency. You know, if you can just be transparent on things, you know you don't have to be the boss that closes your door and keeps everything the more transparent, the more you can tell your people. I tell my people sort of what we're doing, what we're trying to accomplish, why I'm doing it this way, and you know that makes me easy to relate with, easy to talk to from a leadership standpoint. So so tell me, tell me a little bit about the biblical Is there? How do we, how do we get into some of the authentic things when it comes from the biblical side of things?
Speaker 2:Well, there's so much in the Bible about being authentic, being honest, being true, so I'll just I'll just quote one passage of scripture we got. I've got several here, but here's the first one that comes to my mind Ephesians 4.25,. Paul wrote this Therefore, each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to your neighbor. And and it's so easy to not do that, it's so easy to you know, hedge the truth just a little bit. But the scripture is talking to us and challenging us to be honest. And then here's another one from Colossians 3,. It's the same author, apostle Paul. He said this in Colossians 3.9,. Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off the old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge and the image of its creator. And then Romans 12.2,. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, which is so opposite of being authentic for so many things. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
Speaker 2:Now here's the thing about being authentic it's, it can be a learned process. We might not have grown up in an environment where that was lived out or practiced, but if we get to those core values. We say, you know, we're going to focus on living out our core values. We're going to focus on living a life of honesty, of integrity, of transparency, of humility, and then each day somehow journal and say, you know what? I wasn't that way here with you, know someone at work? Or I wasn't that way with my next door neighbor. I need to rethink how I would do that again. And so we don't want to be molded by the world, we want to be molded by Christ. And here's another one from James 512. But above all, my brothers and sisters, do not swear, do not not by heaven or by earth or by anything else. All you need to say is a simple yes or no, and that should be enough. You wouldn't have to say this and then try to talk yourself into it or give a lengthy explanation.
Speaker 2:Proverbs 12-22 says this the Lord detests lying lips, but he delights in people who are trustworthy. And I think, willie, that's what being authentic means. It's being like we said almost at the very first podcast your word is your bond. When you say something, people know that you're telling the truth. They know that you are being totally honest with them, that you're not trying to pull the wool over their eyes. That would be so true in a marriage relationship, that would be so true in a business relationship, in any employee-employee relationship. It's so important to be that your word is your bond, that when you speak, people know that you're being authentic, that you're being truthful with them. And what that does is it builds trust, it enhances the relationship, improves overall well-being of the corporate environment or the family environment. It's just an important habit to get into.
Speaker 1:One of the things that was coming up when I was looking at some passages and I think this resonates. I wanted to talk to you. I made a note of it. The emphasis on applying biblical teachings genuinely and consistency consists. You want to just read this? For me, the emphasis is on applying biblical teachings genuinely, consistently in one's life, rather than merely acknowledging them without action. And I think, when we talk about the teachings, how are we putting in action, how are we genuinely taking the Word of God?
Speaker 1:and putting it in place and one of the things that I thought of when I'm reading that is just church in general. I mean you being in the church and I have to assume not say any names, but I'm sure that you know the people that are going there for appearances, sort of keeping up the appearances, and the people that are generally feeling it all in their heart and all that stuff. And I don't know how that plays out in your head as a man that's leading the church, but I have to see it because I look around the stands and the stands you look around the views and I can sort of tell that, and I'm sure over 40 plus years, you've got to put the finger on the pulse to go.
Speaker 1:what's the intention? Are they being authentic? Are they there because their four friends are there? This is a habit they do. I don't know. I figure I pose that question to you because it always makes me curious on some of the inner workings of the church.
Speaker 2:It's a great question. I never want to condemn or look down on someone who walks in the door of a church, because I'm thinking okay, they are glad that they're there. For whatever reason. People come for lots of different reasons. It could be because they have grown up that way. That's just part of their life. It could be because they were guilted into it, because they were dragged there. The joke was I grew up and I had a drug problem. I was always drugged to church.
Speaker 2:Well, I know a lot of people that that's exactly what happened in their life.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, I love this one, that one, even a dead joke. That's not even a dead joke. We've got two under books and we haven't even told a dead joke yet.
Speaker 2:Yeah so, anyway, no matter why people are there, I am so thankful that they're there. Yes, now, what we read in the book of James talks about faith and works, and so the question is, once we walk out the door on Sunday, okay, we come to church on Sunday, whether we come to Sunday school or do a home group during the week or come to just worship, you know, that's great, any of that. But once we walk out the door, the question is do we leave our faith in the building or do we leave it in our home group and then we just live our life however we want? The challenge is to not do that. The challenge is to live your life as a life of faith, 24, 7, 365, and then, during a time during the week it could be Saturday night for some, it could be Sunday morning, sunday night, whatever that works for them they come to church to give thanks to God for a life that they have. I know next week we're going to talk about gratitude and it's so important.
Speaker 2:I've experienced that the more people are grateful to God for the life he has given them, the more authentic they are, the more authentic they can be, and because they feel secure, they feel loved, they don't feel like they have to be fake. And so the challenge for me as a pastor was to not only have people come to church I love that but to live out their faith during the week. And so the question is how do people do that? And well, if you're a schoolteacher, how do you do that at your workplace?
Speaker 2:If you're a plumber, or if you're a doctor, or if you're an electrician, if you're a carpenter, how do you live out your faith? Do you do that during your workplace? Do you coach a softball team? Do you work with the scouts? Do you coach soccer? What do you do? And then, if there is a mission project, say like with Habitat for Humanity or collecting food or clothing, food and drive or whatever like that, do you participate in that? We can't do everything, but the question is what do we do to live out our faith so that other people see that our faith really does matter to us? And the more that becomes a habit, then the more authentic I believe that our Christian faith is. Yeah 100%.
Speaker 1:That's actually one of the next things I was going to read here and I thought it ties back and I don't have to read it because you sort of went through it Well, because I can read your notes upside down, Apparently and at an angle. And you're looking from above somehow.
Speaker 1:I don't know how, but it talks about the relationship with God and commitment to living out His teachings and the leadership practices, and this approach fosters trust, respect and spiritual growth within the community. And one of the things that I was thinking this morning I was watching a commercial and it was a charity commercial and one of the stars or something was doing something and I used to do more of it than now when I had little ones and stuff and I'm running around town. So I look back and there's some organizations that I need to fire back up and start doing a little bit more. I still do some charities, but I wanted to always be part of Make-A-Wish and I've never done Make-A-Wish and it was always on my list to check off and because I've always done that, if I find out your dreams and what you're trying to accomplish and what some of the things that you're here on the planet to do, I always try to help figure out who I know to make that happen and that's why I was always drawing to Make-A-Wish.
Speaker 1:That's a great organization, so I'm going to try to reach out to them here in the next couple of weeks and see what I can do to set up a meeting, go over there and start working with them, because there's a lot of things I do with other organizations, but that was one that I've always had on my list, that I never really got around to, and I'm going to make it happen.
Speaker 2:I think that would be really good, and so the real question is Going back to core values. If our core value is to live a Christ-like life, that is one of our core values. It might be the first one, it might be the fifth one, but if that is one of them, then how are we doing with that? And being authentic, being honest, being transparent, being humble, those are kind of things that fit into that kind of core value, so that our faith is genuine, not so that we feel like we have to go and stand on the street corner with a Bible and preach.
Speaker 2:But people can see that the way we live our life, the language that we use, the things that we do and don't do, there's something about our life that they think, wow, they're different. And I think that's exactly—different is good. When it comes to being a Christian, different is good. And so the question is do other people see that? Or is it only in our mind? And the goal would be for people to see that, no matter where we are, we could be at the post office, we could be at the grocery store, you know, whatever. Do people see that? And I think, willie, that's a learned behavior and it can happen over time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that leads into—we'll bounce back over to corporate is consistency. You know, and from a corporate standpoint, consistency is king. I mean, if somebody wants to buy into you as a leader and have trust, you've got to be consistent. I don't care if you're a bad leader, but be consistent about it. If you're consistent, I know how to deal, I know how to talk to you, I know how to work for you. But if you're somebody that's very inconsistent, even in leadership standpoint, I'm always on eggshells because I don't know where I stand with somebody that's inconsistent.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so you just last week were at a corporate event talking about communication, and so maybe you should share a little bit about how authenticity and communication you know go together, because that would be so important for our listeners.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, as far as you know the communication, there's a lot of layers of communication. You know we think communication is open our mouth and spit these words out and it should make sense. And you know, communication in general is very deep. I mean, we got men and women. We know that there's a little disconnect there from time to time. We got all the different personalities in the world. We got all the passive, aggressive, passive, aggressive, aggressive people we have—we have introverts, extroverts, we all speak different languages and I can go on and on. There's about 13, 14 different layers of communication. And you know, if you can go through and you can get better about looking at some of these layers and what I equivale in my keynote to peel back the layers of the onion, because we have a lot of layers and communication is literally like an onion you just keep pulling back layers and there's something that each of us are a little bit different.
Speaker 1:And if we can find that—the layers and we can identify who we are, that's where I think the authenticity comes from is first figuring out who you are. You know what qualities, what your strengths, your weaknesses, how do you communicate and what do you do to get the message out and if you go through the process and you be your authentic, genuine self, people are going to look at you, they're going to believe what you say, they're going to hinge on the words. Just the presence that you have will increase just by being authentic. And I think this is a huge word. You know, and it's one of those things that you know I live, I'm very authentic and everybody knows I'm—you know I don't sugarcoat anything. Being an executive coach and a speaker and all that I got to tell you how to make you better and not how to make you happy. You know, and it's a work in progress, but communication is right up there with some of the things that—one of the most important things you can do to make yourself authentic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so let me go back about a minute. You were talking about layers of an onion, just so—I'm just going to go down a rabbit hole for just a minute.
Speaker 1:I like it.
Speaker 2:So last Friday Diana and I were invited over to dinner with some very good friends. We—this guy has an outdoor kitchen and it was great. And he said could you come a little early? I need your help in fixing dinner. I said, sure, I'll come over. Well, he had me fry onion rings.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:He was cooking—he was cooking the burgers and he said I need you to watch the grease and cook the onion rings. I'd never had that experience before, you know, cooking onion rings oh, they were really good. So we'll just drop it right there.
Speaker 1:So let me just— Are you an authentic onion ring maker at this point? I don't know about that. I'm in training, I just train.
Speaker 2:But I'm an authentic onion eater.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah, I appreciate it, I would just say one other thing, which is always interesting, because when we're talking about being authentic, what you communicate, or what you think you communicate, might not be what people hear. So every so often you might want to ask your coworkers, your employees or whatever what did I just say? Or how did you hear what I just said? Because, like you know for preaching for all those years, just because I said it doesn't mean that's the way people heard it. I could— Then you know, like maybe the you know, my tone of voice could have been different, my intonation could have been different, I could have said something in a way that brought up a memory for somebody, and so they hear, they have a different filter, and so it's always important that occasionally for your listeners to know how did you actually hear that?
Speaker 2:Because being authentic means am I really being honest with saying what I need to say, or do I need to fine tune how I say it? Maybe my tone of voice, maybe my language is not proper, or maybe the words I'm using are not being understood. So if you take the time to evaluate your communication with the people that are listening, that's always. It's humbling.
Speaker 1:And I'll even take it one step farther as far as the leadership aspect of what you're saying is become a good listener, because the more you listen, then let the other person talk For one. You're going to win the battle of communication, but it's going to create empathy, and empathy is a very strong thing when you're talking about an authentic self. The more that you can show empathy, the more that you can put yourself in the other person's shoes to be able to understand their thought process of you know, just like you said, I can say the words, but how are you interpreting, how are you doing it? And if you can ask those questions and then be a good listener and not put up your walls because a lot of you know, especially new speakers and everything, where they'll get all these evaluations and they'll get 30 people in the room said, oh, you guys are awesome, but that's that one that said I hated this, everything about it was bad, and that new speaker is going to concentrate on that one for the next week and that's all that that new speaker is going to be. Not that he touched 30 people, it's that one person that that gave him a negative thing, but I mean, we don't know what. That person could have had a bad day, could have spilled coffee on him. I don't know what happened today.
Speaker 1:So, you know, be a good listener, ask the questions, like you said, figure out how they interpret it and change, use some of the stuff you know. Don't don't just take information that's given to you and not do anything with it to make yourself better, to change your process, a system, because that's how you become, you know, a better leader and a more authentic leaders. You know, so many times we do surveys as corporate trainers and I work with survey companies and we we tell them straight out of the thing if you're going to do all these surveys and not do anything with information, don't pay us to do a survey because it's going to have more of a negative effect than it is a positive effect. There's a lot of people back in the day they thought you can do this survey, it's going to have this positive effect and they don't do anything to information and and it, it tanks management. You know it can cause a very big ripple inside the corporate culture. So exactly.
Speaker 2:So I know we we're running out of time but and I know we need to get to some jab jokes but let me just say one of the most humbling classes I took in seminary was preaching, and because they would videotape us and then we would all watch the videotape and then we'd have the classmates comment on our, our content, our style, our body language and everything. And so I would just say, for those of you who are leaders, maybe executives or whatever Maybe you need to videotape your next staff meeting and then view it or have your team view it with you and Just ask them for how can I better improve my communication or how can I do this better and just be authentic with them and and transparent. It will build so much trust.
Speaker 1:It'll really be and make a huge difference in your corporation but I will say and told to you know, to Add to that, I did a toast masters one time and I've done toast masters for a while, and but the one time I'm referencing as I went in as the speaker and they were having a judging contest, it wasn't about the speaker, was about how the five judges judged me compared to everybody else in the audience. So it was more about the judges. So they watched Me give a little five, seven minute speech and they went out in the the Outside and then they came in one at a time and they gave me my rebuttal about how I did, what they liked, what they disliked. And One of the big things that you got to understand when you're, when you're recording yourself and where people are watching you, is our brains all Interpret we all, we all gather different things, and I'm a big hand talker. I talked with my hands.
Speaker 1:Well, the first person came in and said oh, tim is awesome speech by blah. It loved the hands, very fluid, your movements up on stage, all that great and it was awesome. The second person comes in says, tim, great speech. I didn't know what you were going on with your hands. I thought I was gonna have to jump in the water and save you because you were drowning up there or something.
Speaker 1:I didn't know what was going on with your hands, you know, just put them in your pocket or something. Next person to come in dude. You know, blah, blah, blah. You know your hands, great, good movement with your hands, good body movement around the stage. And Then the next one came in great, love, your hands. And then the last one came in dude, man, the hands. I couldn't see anything. I don't remember your speech, I just could, I just watching your hands and I can't get it out of my head now.
Speaker 1:So so be careful when you're recording yourself, because I just trained, I did train a trainer, you know, here this this last weekend and and I told him, I said one person's perception is gonna be another person's perception, it's gonna be totally different. So just if you're recording like that, get multiple people to give you advice, because we all see different things with our eyes. We all have a certain way that things need to be right. But I, 100% I I was just having that conversation like an hour to go on a zoom call that we we need to go into. I'm doing something with a corporate and we need to do a lot of recording because I want them to get their sales pitch and they're their leadership and everything down, and so we're gonna do a lot of recording and one of my seminars coming up.
Speaker 2:So well, that's really good. So yeah, so yeah so you know, I sat with a dad joke. Dad jokes. What do you think? I think there's a good topic, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think so I love, I love this topic and everything. And let's see what I actually have, one or two I can actually do usually. Why did you? Why do authentic books never get lost? I don't know because they always stay true to their shelf.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay. Well, I'm just gonna piggyback on that one and say did you hear about the two horses that fell in love?
Speaker 1:No, no, I did not.
Speaker 2:They were in a stable relationship.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, what else you got it? Why did the authentic coffee never lie?
Speaker 2:Because it always expressed itself. Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 1:All right, you got any more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, coming up this month, the spring break, yes, different times of school, you depending on school district, you know. And so if you're out there spring break, just be careful, especially on the beach, you know, just be sure to take care of yourself and your skin and all the kind of stuff. But you know, what kind of sandals do frogs wear?
Speaker 1:I do not know, open toad, I Thought you just given a PSA like that, everybody be safe, and we're closing out the show.
Speaker 2:I didn't know you're leading up to one more. I'll give you one more, because I don't usually give.
Speaker 1:I'll give you one more, and then we're closing this thing yeah, that's good. Why did the genuine, why was the genuine pearl so popular at parties? The genuine pearl, so I don't know because it was always being itself no strings attached. Oh.
Speaker 2:Here we go. I think I can do that one. There we go.
Speaker 1:Okay, we'll throw that one in to close out the show. Okay, hey, thank you for putting up with us, and I would just, you know, not for listening, just for putting up with us you know we try to have fun, you know and and hopefully you have fun with us.
Speaker 1:Check us out biblical leadership, show calm, send us some topics and it's some dad jokes and this, whatever you want to send us. Tell us Anything that you want to tell us. We're still gonna keep doing dad jokes, I know, I know, but that's just what we like, so we like the groaners.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, sir, this is the groaners.
Speaker 1:Hey everybody, have a safe time out there. Spring break and a lot of people are on spring break this week, so be, careful, have fun, and dr Dean Posey will have something to say to us.
Speaker 2:Hey, have a great day.
Speaker 1:There you go. Talk to you soon, bye, bye.
