Biblical Leadership Show
The Biblical Leadership Show podcast explores timeless principles of leadership through a biblical lens, offering insightful discussions and practical wisdom for leaders seeking to integrate faith and leadership in their personal and professional lives. Join us as we delve into biblical narratives, lessons, and values to inspire and equip leaders to make a positive impact in their communities and organizations.
Biblical Leadership Show
Footsteps of Kindness: The Marathon of Understanding the Needs of Others.
As I laced up my running shoes for a half marathon with my daughter, little did I know that the real race was one of understanding and serving others—a theme Dr. Dean Posey and I eagerly unpack in our latest heart-to-heart. We share personal anecdotes, Dr. Posey's fresh from the pavement of Frederick, Maryland and his from mission trips, each story a tapestry of individual preparation and the collective joy found in giving. These narratives aren't just feel-good moments; they are profound lessons in tuning into the needs around us and the transformation that follows when we do.
Picture this: a world where every act of kindness, no matter how small, weaves together the fabric of a caring community. That's the vision Dr. Posey and I explore, from hands-on volunteer work to the power of mentorship and beyond. We delve into how ordinary people can perform extraordinary deeds simply by lending time, wisdom, and compassion. And as we chuckle through a healthy dose of dad jokes, we remind each other that laughter and levity are just as crucial in lightening loads and connecting hearts.
As our conversation draws to a close, Dr. Posey and I don't just say goodbye; we extend a warm invitation for you to join the journey and make your mark. Whether through a good deed challenge or mentoring a young mind, the avenues for impact are endless. Tune in, be inspired, and let's step together toward a world enriched by selflessness and service, where every day is an opportunity to make someone's race a little easier to run.
Welcome, Welcome, welcome. Welcome to the Biblical Leadership Show. I am not Tim Lansford.
Speaker 2:He is not.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not. How was that? I was trying to imitate you.
Speaker 2:I know it was all right.
Speaker 1:I need to work on my welcome.
Speaker 2:Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of the Biblical Leadership Show.
Speaker 1:Yes, I am Tim Lansford and. I am Dr Dean Posey. That was pretty good. Hi, dr Dean, how are you?
Speaker 2:doing today I'm doing fantastic.
Speaker 1:How are you doing? Oh my gosh, we're doing all right, we're hanging in there and having a great day. Yeah, having a great day, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you know any training marathons you swim like 18,000 miles today. No, no, no, no. And bike.
Speaker 1:But on May the 5th, I'll be doing a half marathon with our daughter up in Frederick, Maryland.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:So I'm looking forward to that. Here we got just about two more weeks before that happens.
Speaker 2:Do you have numbers on front and back?
Speaker 1:Just on the front.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I need to get you a Biblical Leadership Show shirt to wear in the thing. Is there any rules on that? Can we advertise Can?
Speaker 1:I be a sponsor. You can definitely be a sponsor.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I think we might need to get a shirt that you can wear. We might need to. It has to be one of those dry fit shirts.
Speaker 1:Just because if it's cotton I won't wear it, just because it'd be too muggy.
Speaker 2:I need dry fit shirts.
Speaker 1:But the biblical leadership show. And you're running this with your daughter yes, and her boyfriend. So I need to get multiple shirts. I need to know the sizes. See if I can find I can do that I'll have to work on that.
Speaker 2:That would be fun.
Speaker 1:You know we can do some advertising up there and get a whole new audience, expand our leadership.
Speaker 2:All right, you gotta tell me your brand of dry fritz you like, and uh, well, it doesn't matter. Well, I mean, it does right, it does. Really. Some are better than others.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we're flying up, um, uh, on like wednesday, uh, hanging out with our daughter for a couple of days. The race is actually on a Sunday, nice, and they have a big festival up there in Frederick, maryland, for the whole Saturday thing. And then the race is on Sunday morning and half marathon. So 13.1 miles. It's going to be fun.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:And I'm looking forward to eating a lot after it's over.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, Maybe I'll show up and just eat for you and make you jealous the night before.
Speaker 1:Well, they have a place. I don't remember the name of the place, but they have this hot sauce up there at this burger place and if you want this hot sauce on your burger, they actually have a name for the burger. It's called Can't Feel my Face Burger.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so I haven't tried it. I tried the sauce. I just dipped a french fry in it one time, Just one little drop. Oh my, my mouth was on fire.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I can't imagine doing the whole burger. I can tell you about a friend that uh, she does a lot of triathlons. I mean she's run like 20, 30 triathlons and and iron man and stuff and uh, I still am amazed to this day because we'll be up there and we'll go to support her and stuff and we'll go out the night before and she'll drink wine and eat and all that stuff, just like it's a normal night, and then get up in the morning and run. Right, man, I just I can't in my head I would, I'd pass out like mile two. You know, we're just out till we hours in the morning, drinking, eating and everything. I'm like it's, it's crazy. But I mean that's then. You know, whatever you know, everybody's body's different, right, exactly, it's sort of crazy so I found out years ago.
Speaker 1:For me now this is different for just everybody, but for me getting sleep the night before normally doesn't happen, because I'm anxious about it. You know, I'm excited about the race. So really, if the race is on Sunday, I need to be sure I get a good sleep two nights before. So Friday night, you know, good sleep, saturday night probably not too much, because you got to get up early, you know, and stretch and get to the right side and all that kind of stuff. So Friday night sleep into Saturday morning is really really crucial for me. Other people they do it different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's your pre meal the night before Cause I mean, it's all about that meal the night before football we always had to go eat steak, you know, before football.
Speaker 1:Carbs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, heavy carbs for you, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's not just the night before. Normally, you know, you start several days before so you want to build up that reserve in your system because you know running 13 miles, even though it's going to take me like 10 hours- no, I don't know, running 13 miles.
Speaker 2:Oh you know, yeah, maybe, maybe one day I'll be hungry.
Speaker 1:I won't do it when I'm done and I'm looking forward to that. I'm like the biggest thing I'm looking forward to is being with our daughter. Yeah, she's just an awesome person and just enjoy her and her boyfriend and it just. They're just great people and we're going to enjoy being up there in that area of the country and um you know, coming home the day after. So I might be sleeping on the plane, but uh, it's going to be fun, looking forward to it that's awesome.
Speaker 2:Well, I guess we should talk about what we're going to talk about the needs of others, they, they need to hear something from us other than our personal stories, you know. But so the needs of others. What is the I mean? Why do we care about the needs of others, right?
Speaker 1:Well, that's a big question, because some people don't.
Speaker 2:Some people.
Speaker 1:And we look in the Scripture with that, let's just say, filter From the beginning of the Bible to the end. We are encouraged to focus on helping others. Sometimes it's a physical need, sometimes it's an emotional, mental need, sometimes you know it's a spiritual need. The question is are we going to put someone else's agenda above our own agenda? And you know, how do we know what the needs of others are? Sometimes we think we know what their needs are and we try to do something, and that's not really what they need.
Speaker 1:And so there's a great book out called Five Love Languages, and if you've never read that book, it's really good, especially if you have a significant other, married or engaged, or boyfriend, girlfriend.
Speaker 1:Everybody has a different love language, and sometimes we try to meet someone else's need according to our love language instead of according to theirs. And so, in order to know what the needs of others are, it's important to listen to them, talk to them. Don't try to just guess, second guess it, you know, or whatever. It's important to listen to find out what the needs are. Can you meet them? Because sometimes the need is so big there's no way you can actually meet a physical need. You might need to be able to be able to make an emotional need by being with somebody. Say they're going to, like the cross, the street neighbor is going through surgery, or maybe they just lost a spouse and you can't, you know, do their taxes or you can't do their insurance or whatever. But you can, you know, sit with them and sometimes cry with them and just kind of be there as an emotional support instead of something like a physical need.
Speaker 2:Yeah and kudos to you. I know that you're retired-ish we'll just say right. But I mean I know that you still go to the hospital and you still do prayer and people with surgeries and stuff, and I think that's marvelous that you still take the time for needs of others. I mean you don't have to do that. I mean they're your friends, they're people that have been in the church and all that stuff. But you know, kudos to you because you still go and give to others, because you're a very giving person.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you, brother. I appreciate that, but let's talk about why that's important. You know, whatever the need is, whatever category the needs and you had a great list of categories there why don't you just read that off and then we'll talk about why is that so important in our life?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean we got a lot of, you know, categories and needs. I mean we have the basic needs, we have the emotional needs, we have social needs. We the basic needs.
Speaker 2:We have the emotional needs, we have social needs, we have safety and security needs, we have our health and wellness needs, financial, spiritual, personal development needs. You know sort of falls, sort of what we're sort of looking so I mean there's a lot of categories and we talked a little bit about categories and needs and we can put these things in sort of you know from the basic needs and you know we teach in corporate leadership about Maslow's hierarchy of needs. I think most people have heard about that. Where you come in through the basic of basic, you know is just make sure that you have, you know, everything covered from. You know your food, your water, Then you have a roof over your head, you know your safety and then you know the next step of Maslow's is to have somebody to share it with and then you get into that self-esteem. That's where you get the trophies on the walls, a plaque.
Speaker 2:You know some people strive that. And then some people want to be the top. You know they want to be the boss of the company. They won't, they won't give up till the boss. And and another one that I even put on Maslow's hierarchy needs, that is not there. That I think it's probably one of the most important I do it in my seminars is wifi. You know, if a wifi is sort of the top now, because we can't have anything without wifi nowadays Right.
Speaker 2:So that's one of the fun ones.
Speaker 1:I do in my seminars. Yeah, if you don't have your smartphone, you're in trouble. Yeah, I mean, if you don't have that, especially for our younger generations.
Speaker 2:But if you go through and you understand the basic needs and we got over when we talked about motivation, and understanding the needs of others ties back into that If I'm trying to motivate one of my employees, which that employee doesn't motivate and he might be motivated by money, that's not his need.
Speaker 2:His need is to spend more time with his family, more time to go out with his daughter for soccer and doing all that stuff, I can't say let's work this weekend, I'll give you more money, because that's not his motivation. So that goes back to understanding the needs of others. We think that we understand the needs of us but I mean we try to put our needs off on other people sometimes and we're all different. Your needs are definitely different than my needs on a regular basis and all my employees, every one of my employees, have different needs and I think that if you figure out, if you take the time to understand what their needs are, you can better help them. You can better help them in leadership, you can better help them in motivation, better help them in all those avenues.
Speaker 1:Exactly right. So why are these you know, focusing on the needs of others so important? And I think, several reasons, but one of it it helps us from becoming self-focused and so many times and especially COVID really elevated this that we are so into ourselves, our agenda, our needs, our wants, our desires, but focusing on others helps us get out of that sphere and we can focus on the needs of others.
Speaker 1:It expands our world. It helps us realize that we're not the center of everything. Let me just tell you a story that happened to me when I was in seminary, graduate school. So I was working for a church and we had a man who was at the church, who was one of my professors at the seminary and his son was in my youth group and he was a part of a mission project called Appalachia Service Project. Well, the church that I grew up in in Albuquerque, st John's Methodist Church, we heard about missionaries, we heard about you know those kind of things, but in order to support that, you would just send your money. There wasn't opportunities to actually go and follow your money or, you know, be a short-term missionary or mission trips. We just didn't ever hear about that, didn't hear about them in college, about that, didn't hear about him in college. So I was in seminary and this professor, george Morris. He told us about this Appalachian Service Project and so he had been involved in it.
Speaker 1:We got there and we had my wife and I went with another couple and we took 10 kids, 10 of the youth, on this mission trip for the very first time. It was the very first mission trip of the church and we went. It opened my eyes to something that I was not even aware of, and that's this whole topic here how can I put my agenda aside and focus on the needs of someone else for a week? And so we re-roofed the house, we built a porch, we painted, we cleaned, we did all that kind of stuff, and that world had always been there. I was just unaware of the need of other people, of the need of other people, and so that's the question Sometimes we're so focused on our agenda, our needs. We get in our car in the garage, we open the garage door, we drive our car down the street, we're listening to the radio or whatever, or talking on the phone. We go into our office, we park in the parking garage, we go to our office, we go upstairs, we go to our cubicle, and we don't ever really interact with a whole lot of people. Even if we do, we're still focusing on okay, what do I have to do when I get off of work, or what am I doing this weekend, or whatever. And it's like, what about the person that's in the cubicle next to us, or the person that parks next to us in the parking garage. What are they going through? How can I help them? And so that mission trip opened my eyes. It literally did change my ministry. It was at the very beginning and it helped me realize, no, there's an opportunity, if we're looking for it, to live out our Christian faith by helping others and having that as a part of our DNA, and that literally helped influence all my years of ministry.
Speaker 1:In every church we tried to do something. Either it was helping in the community, helping nationally, internationally, or something to give people an opportunity to get their agenda aside and focus on the needs of others. And it really is life-changing. And so we talked about values last week. To me, this goes a perfect part of that. What value is there in our life so that we can? Is it compassion? Is it generosity? What value are we living out so that we, as a part of our natural DNA, we focus on the needs of others? And if there's not a value in your life, then I encourage you go volunteer someplace. Go volunteer at the library, go volunteer at your kid's school, go volunteer someplace. Go volunteer at the library, go volunteer at your kid's school, go volunteer somewhere Habitat for Humanity. Go volunteer somewhere, and so you can put the needs of others in front of your own needs, and it literally will be life-changing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's exactly. You took one of my things Habitat for Humanity. It's a great place, a good organization. As a builder, you know, I've taken a lot of my people over there. We do a lot of stuff for, like Operation Finally, home and stuff where we build veterans homes and and, uh, you know, through through our association and it's pretty nice to be able to see and and and the joy that you get back, and I've always been the person that likes to give, right, you know, and and I would rather give um things out any day of the week than receive.
Speaker 2:You know, and and it's just one of those things that there's so much joy in giving, and and some people think that you know they have to give, and we've talked about this, as you know, some of my trainers that I trained and all that stuff. It's you don't have to give things out. You know and and it's your time, it's your, it's your wisdom, it's your, your knowledge, it's your experiences sometimes that you have to give. You know CEOs are always looking oh, we need to do some big. You know brainstorming or session, or you don't have to give something. That's always monetarily out.
Speaker 2:I had this one guy that I used to consult with and he was always looking for all bonuses and all this stuff just throughout the course of the year not at the end of the year bonuses, but he was always trying to do that. I'm like, just do. One of the biggest things that we did with this gentleman is took out the money and we did a big promotion where he got the winner got to spend the day shadowing the CEO of this company. It was a very large company and so that was the benefit. That was the excitement is to go around with him, see what he does on a daily basis, go to lunch with him, talk to him as a human being, you know, and not as a boss and as the leader of this company.
Speaker 2:And that took this person that did this and that was probably the biggest thing they'd ever received.
Speaker 2:The money was would have been great, it would have been a little thing, but that time shaped that person into a completely different person, changed the goals, because I had follow up with that person and and you know, sometimes you don't know what the single things like that mean to it. There's been many times I've been out on calls and and consulting where I just was supposed to spend an hour with somebody and I ended up clearing my whole day just because I knew that they needed it. They were in a tough place or something going on, and and if you can do that and you have the ability to do that, and you have the ability to do that, and everybody has the ability to do that, it's just lending an ear sometimes and you don't need to fix it. A lot of times it's just somebody has to vent and they want to be able to tell it, and that's the benefit of listening to the needs of others, because you just never know where it's going to go.
Speaker 1:Exactly right. So one of the things is and I think you touched on this, I'll just expand a little bit I think everybody either written down on paper, maybe on your phone, in your head. We have a list of things to do, and so the goal of the day or the week is to check off everything on your list.
Speaker 2:That would be so funny.
Speaker 1:What, everything, everything I've got like 120 things on my list. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I tried to make the best 25 to get off, but that's really cute they can tell you're retired.
Speaker 1:So Wow, yeah, I've been busy Anyway. So the question is, where on your list is making a meal for the next-door neighbor who just had surgery yes, surgery. Or volunteering at your church for vacation, bible school? Or spending your Saturday making wheelchair ramp for the person down the street that just had a stroke? So those are the kind of things we get so into our own life and our own agenda, our own wants, our own needs that if we're not careful, we're going to be so self-focused and then we're going to wonder why does my life not have meaning or purpose? It's because you're only focused on yourself. So I think the challenge in the Scripture and Jesus was awesome, his whole life was focused on the need of others is to get out of yourself, get out of your agenda and focus on how can I help someone else. If that was your thing, okay, today I don't know what I'm going to do, but I'm going to help someone else do something. I don't know what that is, you know, you might just find out. Oh, the person that works in the office, you know the cubicle next to you. What's their favorite coffee? Just pick up a coffee on them and just try to bless their day. How can I be a blessing to someone else today?
Speaker 1:So we have a couple of scriptures and then I'm going to have a quote at some point before we're done, of Mother Teresa. What an incredible example of just helping someone with their whole life. But Proverbs 22.9 says this the generous will themselves be blessed for they share their food with the poor. 1 John 3.17,. If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person? James 1.27,. Religion that God, our Father, accepts as pure and faultless is this to look after orphans and widows in their distress and keep oneself from being polluted by the world. Proverbs 14.31,. Whoever oppresses the poor shows contempt for their maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God. There's scriptures throughout the entire thing, and Jesus is all about living our life to be a blessing to others, and so I think God has blessed our life, even though we might not recognize God as a part of that. The question is how do we share those blessings with someone else?
Speaker 1:And we're not always talking about material things. It could just be a phone call, it could be, you know, you walk in the morning. Maybe it's your neighbor, you go walk with him. I mean, just try to find a way to help someone else, not necessarily having to spend money. I remember when my wife and I first got married, literally we had zero money. I mean, I was in school. That was expensive. She was working at the hospital as a physical therapist, and so the challenge was how can we go on a date and not spend a dime? You know, sometimes we just go to the park and walk. Now we explored some time to go. That was back when we had a dollar theater, nice.
Speaker 2:A dollar theater Nice.
Speaker 1:Those are long gone, but you know, so you try to do the same thing. How can I help someone else without spending money?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and while you were talking there, I you took a nap.
Speaker 1:I took a little nap, you took a little nap.
Speaker 2:I know I did a little search on how to challenge people to do one good deed for another each week.
Speaker 2:Wow I was sort of curious. You know, because this is a good point. You know, because you know my schedule I go crazy, crazy busy all the time. I go crazy, crazy busy all the time and and uh, but this is something that that's been leaning on me that I need to do um more with the kids, cause I want them to know that that servant uh to be able to do things. And and uh, you know, cause I mean they are blessed as kids right Growing up.
Speaker 2:They they haven't missed a meal and all this stuff and they've got nice stuff and and, but I but I need to do it, and we do some of that and I know the thoughts process there. I've put it in place many times, but I need to think about how to instill that a little bit more. And they go to Christian schools. I mean, that's their life. They're taught how to do that, but I need to from me as a dad. I need to really put this in place, and so I was looking at this as you were talking and a couple of them came up. They pulled up 10 things here. I'm just going to read through some of these and we can talk about them.
Speaker 2:Set up a challenge. Create a structured challenge where participants commit to doing one deed each week for a certain period, such as a month or three months, and then give an idea how to do it, maybe a reward at the end or recognition. I thought that was pretty good. Use your social media platform to spread the word of the challenge, provide inspiration, share good examples, acts of kindness. You know and I thought about it as we were talking maybe we should blend some stories in that we can find out on the internet or something like that.
Speaker 2:You know, that's another podcast I was going to talk to you about working on, and maybe it's something we do that shared some of the stories on this show and do on that. Get your community together. You know, support community, offer incentives, provide resources, celebrate successes, share success stories and testimonials. Maybe that's one of the people that people can do is go to biblicalleadershipshowcom, fill out the form there and tell us some of your successes, give us some of your testimonials that we can share. That would be a great way to pass that on.
Speaker 1:That's a great idea.
Speaker 2:Encourage reflection, extend the challenge, you know, through the timeframes and then lead by example, Participate in the challenge yourself, Just don't be the organizer of it. You know, actively do it. And that's what I was thinking as far as putting it together with kids. I do a lot of this stuff through my organizations and different things through the builder associations and all the stuff I do with National Association of Home Builders and the realtor associations and all my community, my tribe, as far as the speakers. We do a lot of this stuff, but I think I need to involve my kids more in it. I tell them we talk about it and they do a lot of stuff in their school from the school standpoint, but I think we need to do it more as a family and get into where we can go, do a couple of things I've thought about it many times but then you get busy. It's that whole thing that I do it, they do it at school, but I don't do it with them.
Speaker 2:Know, I don't do it with them as a family and and I think that that's on my list I was jotting down notes over here as you were talking, because, you know, anytime you teach a seminar or you teach a, you know, do you do the podcast or one of these things and you say something and you're like Hmm, have I been a good steward of doing that myself. I've been okay with it. You know, have I done that? If I'm telling people to read, you know, a book a month, have I really read a book a month?
Speaker 2:Hmm, I've read half a book and then I need to get back to where I can read. You know stuff like that that you, you sort of hold accountability to yourself and so yeah, so that's some of the things I was doing while you were over there chatting with yourself, you know so Good.
Speaker 1:Well, I'll chat with myself some more.
Speaker 2:Good, I'll chat with myself some more. All right, great, I'll do another. Search Me and the microphone will sit here and chat.
Speaker 1:So just a personal story. I grew up in Albuquerque, was involved in the Boy Scouts.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And the Boy Scout slogan do a good turn daily. I think that's what we're talking about is try to help somebody else on a daily basis, and here's the thing you don't want to do it because you feel you have to do it, you want to get to the point where you want to do it.
Speaker 1:So the motivation of doing it it's not like, oh, I've got to do this, no, you want to help someone else, you want to do that. And the question is, you might not want to, but are you willing to want to be? I mean? So it's like God, help me, show open my eyes to the needs of other people, so that I can be a help and a blessing to them. So I'm going to just share a little story about Mother Teresa.
Speaker 1:And so when Jesus was on the cross. And so when Jesus was on the cross, he said the words I thirst, and the phrase I thirst was the life verse and the theme of Mother Teresa. Now, mother Teresa founded the Order of the Missionaries of Charity and Mother Teresa's Home for the Dying, and in every home for the dying around the world, wherever they are, they're called the Order of the Missionaries of Charity and they take in the poorest of the poor. But in every home there is a picture of Jesus hanging on the cross and underneath that picture is the words I thirst, because Mother Teresa said that it was her duty to quench the thirst of Christ by helping those in need.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:And yeah, and it's just like, wow, what a powerful witness that is. And in my experience, when we're helping other people, it engages our heart, not just our head. It's not something we just think about a need. We're actually doing something about it and it really is. We don't do it to get the blessing, but I've talked to so many people over the years that when we do something for someone else, we actually receive a greater blessing than we give. And so the question is is that an increasing priority in our life, or is it just something that we do? Okay, we're going to do it once a year or twice a year, or is it more of a regular thing as a part of our daily living?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and if you've never looked at Mother Teresa, she has some great quotes.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, what an amazing servant of God.
Speaker 2:Couple of them. It's not how much we give, but how much love we put in giving. I think that's one of my favorites. And then, if you can't feed a hundred people, then feed just one.
Speaker 1:You know it starts with one.
Speaker 2:you know, a lot of times we think that we have to create, we have to have a big impact. You know, when people put in these things like build a house for a veteran or or do it has to be something big, right, and it's not, it's just taking the time. It's like this week I've got a I do a lot of personal coaching and all this stuff and one of my friends called me up and he's just all out of whack, right, and he goes. I need to sit down with you and I just need to go through things. And it wasn't as a coach or a consultant, it's just he needed a friend, right. So I blocked out two hours of my time, three hours of my time here. This is coming up here in a couple of days just to sit down with him, go through his goals, go through his needs, go through his values. Where is he at? What's got him all out of whack? And and I know you do it from a, you know from being in the church and still giving back and and I do it from the business standpoint but I mean that's happens. I mean, but that, right there, you don't know how that one impact might change, right, he's got lots of employees that work for him that might change his attitude towards employees, which that changed the attitude towards their kids, which that changes towards their attitude in school. I mean, it's a one little act, a good deed, can change a world. It's just figuring out how to do it and baby steps.
Speaker 2:We sometimes think we got to make this big splash, right, we got to do this big charity thing, or we got to go to do this. And it's not. It's the little things that we got to go to do this, and it's not. It's. It's the little things that we do when people aren't looking. And I we said this on one of my other podcasts that we were at a football game and my, my daughter was running with her friends and they knocked over a trash can. Well, the three other girls they took out running. Well, my daughter stopped, picked up the trash can and started picking up all the trash, putting it in there and nobody saw her. She wasn't around anybody. We could see her from a distance. I didn't even see her. My wife saw her and I mean that's what you do. It made me feel so proud because it's what you do when people aren't looking.
Speaker 1:That's exactly right. Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so let me just I know it's almost time to close out, so let me just share one thing from the Scripture In the book of Genesis. In the New Testament, chapter 5, verses 22 and 23, we read a list of what Paul calls the fruit of the Spirit and he says love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Those are called the fruit of the Spirit. You, you know we're in springtime in Texas, you know there's the fruit trees are starting to bud out, those kind of things. But I've never seen a fruit tree consume its own fruit. No, it actually grows so that someone else can consume it. Well, grows so that someone else can consume it. Well, that's the way I look at this. You know God has blessed us.
Speaker 1:The question is, how much of the blessings do we consume for ourself or do we save some of those blessings to give away, to be a blessing to others? And that is really, I think, whether you're a church person or not. The question is, how much of my life is focused on helping other people receive blessing, helping, you know, they might be going through a difficult time. How much of my life, or how big a priority in my life is it on helping others, whatever the need may be. It could be a physical need, emotional need, spiritual need, mental need. Whatever the need may be, it could be a physical need, emotional need, spiritual need, mental need. Whatever the need is, how much of my day, intentionally, or week intentionally, is devoted to helping other people with something?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and let me ask you a question, because I know we have a lot of people that work in the church that listen to our podcast and you know, is there anything that you can do? In your experience of 40 plus years in the church, you know, is there anything that people in the church maybe they can do? I mean, cause I know, I know, uh, there there's a group of people that do a lot. Is there anything that you could maybe give advice for people in the church? They could have more of an impact on their community or or I don't know where I'm going with it, but I was just thinking. You know, we have a lot of people that do work in the church and there's always ways that people are looking to give back, and I think that's one of the things too. You know, mission trips that's a big bang, but I mean, there's a lot of little stuff you can do as well.
Speaker 1:There's always something to do in any size church. You know. It could be rocking babies in the nursery. It could be being out in the parking lot and greeting people as they drive in the church. For someone who goes to the church for the very first time, it's a scary experience. They might not have ever been in church ever in their entire life. They're driving in. Something's going on in their life. They think I need to get in touch with God. I don't know how to do that. Let me try this church and you might be out in the parking lot, being the first person you know, greeting them as they get out of their car. What if it's raining? Have an umbrella, I mean. So there's always something you can do, something small. It could be putting flowers on the altar table. It could be helping clean the building, mowing the grass.
Speaker 1:Every church has needs for certain things to be done. If you're willing to do them and I've said this for decades God can do amazing things with someone who's willing to stoop down and clean the toilet. So if you're willing to humble yourself and say I'll do whatever the church needs to be done, I'll clean the toilets, I'll mow the grass, I'll rock the babies. I'll come in and clean the nursery. I'll do something. I'll answer the phone. I will do something to serve other people. Put my agenda aside. I've never known of a church to say no, we don't need your help. Now, you might not be a church person, okay. What can you do at the YMCA? What can you do with your Little League team? What can you do with you know, at the animal shelter? What can you do at the library? Volunteer somewhere so that you focus on the needs of other people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's great, you know, and, like I say, it's the little things. It's the little things, it's the little things you do when other people aren't looking you know, so many people do it to be seen and I think that's you know. I don't care what motivates you. I really don't as long as you're doing something. But it's really to me, it's what you're doing when people aren't looking. But I mean, if it motivates you, you have to have that pat on the back to do it. That's fine, go do it.
Speaker 2:Let's go do it right, it's part of it. So I mean we're all motivated by different reasons. Yeah, just go do something.
Speaker 1:Exactly right, we've got to do some dad jokes. Oh, I've got one.
Speaker 2:You might not like it.
Speaker 1:Did you hear about the guy who got hit in the head with a can of soda?
Speaker 2:His head popped.
Speaker 1:No, he was lucky, it was a soft drink. Oh, I got a chuckle.
Speaker 2:I didn't get the crickets on that one.
Speaker 1:No, it was pretty good. Yeah, here we go. All right, you know.
Speaker 2:We got to do it. Everyone Woo All right, so that was pretty good.
Speaker 1:That was pretty good. Well, it wasn't original with me.
Speaker 2:We had a couple last week that were less than oh they were.
Speaker 1:They didn't even meet the minimum standards, Right.
Speaker 2:And I mean we've been doing this so long. I'm thinking of you know, because I try to make them unique. But I was like all right, I think I've said that one, I think that one, right there.
Speaker 1:So my wife and I have spent a lot of time in the last, say, two weeks. This is springtime in Texas. It's beautiful, things are starting to grow, starting to get hot, the flowers and so we were out. I was transplanting some flowers, my wife was trimming bushes and stuff like that, and we saw these flowers talking to one another.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so what did the big flower say to the little flower? I don't know, hi, bud. All right, that's good, I like that one. I'll give you, I'll give you applause. That's like a 1.2.
Speaker 2:No, no that was fine. Okay, what do you call a fish wearing a bow tie? I know this one, I know right. I was trying to remember if we use this one.
Speaker 1:I don't remember Sophisticated.
Speaker 2:Sophisticated. I got the rim shot in there.
Speaker 1:Okay. What did the seal with one fin say to the shark? What did the seal with one fin say to the shark?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:If seal is broken, do not consume.
Speaker 2:All right, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1:That's pretty good. That's worse than the last.
Speaker 2:I need to get a moaner on here. You need to get a real moaner like I was. Like I don't think I have, you don't have.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's close, that's not bad, that's not bad, that's close, all plus.
Speaker 2:All right, Dr Posey. Well, you know I had fun, as always. Biblicalleadershipshowcom. Send us some dad jokes, Send us. We asked last week for some testimonials. Tell us some good things that you're doing in the world. We'd love to promote them, and, you know, to our five and a half listeners. I don't know how we got five and a half.
Speaker 1:Maybe they can tell us about how good a nap they had while they were listening.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe that's it. Or a couple other people like why do you do dad jokes?
Speaker 1:Because we want to, because it's our show.
Speaker 2:We have fun, they make us laugh and you never know, we might run out of dad jokes one time and make everybody happy. It might be another six months from now, but you never know. There's a possibility. We'll read Bible verses instead of dad jokes, but until then we're going to do dad jokes.
Speaker 1:The number of dad jokes is like an artesian well, it will never run dry. It's quite a few, there is a lot.
Speaker 2:Didn't say they're going to be good.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, All, quite a few. There is a lot. Didn't say they're gonna be good, but you know?
Speaker 2:no, all right, but other than that, guys, uh, biblicalleadershipshowcom, check us out, say hi to us, say hello to us, listen to some of our podcasts, and other than that, uh, let dr posey take us out with. All right, make it a great day, make it a great day, make it a great day. Thank you, guys. Bye.
