The Biblical Leadership Show
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Welcome to The Biblical Leadership Show, your go-to resource for discovering timeless truths from Scripture that empower leaders to inspire, influence, and impact their world. Hosted by Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey, this podcast takes a deep dive into the Bible’s profound lessons on leadership, bringing fresh perspectives to timeless principles that resonate in today’s fast-paced, ever-changing world.
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The Biblical Leadership Show
Marathon Lessons in Life Management: A Runner's Guide to Stewardship and Leadership
Ever wondered how running a half marathon could teach you about life management? Join Dr. Dean and me as we lace up our sneakers for a humorous yet insightful journey through the principles of stewardship, extending well beyond the pulpit into the nitty-gritty of everyday life. From personal endeavors to professional success, we promise you'll walk away with a fresh perspective on handling your resources—be it time, talent, or treasure—with a few dad jokes to keep the mood light and the wisdom flowing.
Dive into the heart of effective time management with stories that resonate, like that of a dedicated home builder whose three-decade career stands as a testament to integrity and character. We explore the parable of the talents and its application, encouraging you to consider the possibilities when priorities are aligned, and life's minutes are managed as meticulously as a marathoner's pace. Get ready to chuckle and chart a course for personal growth as you learn to balance your dreams with your responsibilities.
Rounding off our session, we emphasize the cornerstone of all success: strong relationships. The stewardship of these bonds in both corporate and home settings can make or break your supportive network. Sharing hearty dad jokes from our listeners and ourselves, we reinforce the joy of camaraderie and the value of a good laugh. Don't miss the opportunity to suggest future topics, and remember, every day holds the potential for greatness—let's seize it with a smile!
Welcome, welcome Welcome.
Speaker 2:Welcome Welcome.
Speaker 1:Welcome To another exciting episode of the Biblical Leadership Show.
Speaker 2:Hey Tim.
Speaker 1:Hi Dr Dean, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2:I'm doing fantastic today.
Speaker 1:Well great.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes Well welcome to Biblical Leadership Show, where we talk a little bit about the biblical talk, a little bit about the leadership and we throw some dad jokes in just because we can and we like them. You know we like most of them. We have some good ones some week and some bad ones. We have some, you know, people that send in some decent ones, so hopefully we can throw those out. They're not our total groaners that we sometimes come up with, even though I do have some groaners in my list of show preps.
Speaker 1:So how are we doing today? So when we were just talking a little bit about this, you just got back in town. Actually, you were out traveling the foothills, right.
Speaker 2:Yes, well, we were up in Maryland and visiting our daughter and did a half marathon with her and her boyfriend and just had a great time there in Frederick. And yeah, it was great, the community was great, it was 52 degrees, which is perfect weather for running, and it was sprinkling little heavy sprinkling the entire time, which didn't mind us. We didn't mind that a bit.
Speaker 2:It allows you to focus when you're running it does and you don't have to take as much fluid, even though we had that. The community was great, very well organized. So those of you listening, in the eastern part of the US, there was people from like 30 different states there, which really surprised me, but it was well done. There was about I don't know 4,500 runners doing the half marathon.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:And so they had a 5K on Saturday night and then the half marathon on Sunday morning and they said if you did both of them you were considered the nut job.
Speaker 1:So we didn't want to do the nut job.
Speaker 2:We just did the half marathon, well organized. So those of you in the eastern part of the United States, I encourage you to check that out. And it's normally, you know, the first Sunday of May every year, so on Cinco de Mayo this year, and we just had a fun time and a lot of people turned out after race party. It was really enjoyable. So, yeah, it was good.
Speaker 1:Well, good. Well, I did not run any half marathons or anything. Just you know, I mean I didn't want to, you know, give you any indication that I might have, but no, I had a great, great time. Great mom's day.
Speaker 2:And yeah, yeah, that's been it with family Ate way too much, but you know that's part of it right, that's part of being with family, you know, and the older we get family, we just realize that family is so, so important.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, yeah, yeah, absolutely. So why do we? What's something else that's important? Is this concept today, this topic that we have.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Now we talked about this about three months ago on stewardship. We're going to repeat that, we're going to maybe broaden that Different twist. I guess A little different twist.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll look at talking a little bit more about the resources, and I mean stewardship is all-encompassing. But I mean we really want to go down to. You know, I have a couple of different directions, that we took it a little bit different. So I'm excited to see where we go today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so many times when we think of stewardship, if we're not a church person or whatever, that's just a bad taste in our mouth. Because we are a church person, we just turn the topic off. But that concept of stewardship of resources which we're going to talk about today has so many implications for all of life, for however old we are, young we are, whatever we do for business, whether we're retired, still working, whether we own a company, we work for a company. That concept is so, so crucial.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's get into it. So let's talk about stewardship. The word stewardship I know as far as the definition. How do you interpret stewardship in your world?
Speaker 2:Well, if you just look up online or in a dictionary or whatever, the word stewardship in a dictionary or whatever the word stewardship, probably 90-something percent of if you look online, 90-something percent of the definitions would use a biblical reference.
Speaker 2:That's because it's throughout the Bible, from the beginning to the end, a very great topic, and so some people might just throw it out the window because they think I don't really worry about that. But the stewardship really means the careful and responsible management of something entrusted to you, and so you know that could be time, it could be a talent, it could be finances, it could be a company that we work for, it could be finances, it could be a company that we work for, it could be our family. You know there's so many implications from that. So if you are listening today and you think, well, you know, I just don't really like to talk about that word. That's just a bad taste in my mouth. I hope that you would put that aside for you know, for the next 30 minutes, Are we going for two hours today or just-.
Speaker 1:I don't know. It depends on how-. I was thinking about 20 minutes of talking and about 30 minutes of dad jokes today.
Speaker 2:Right, I like it, I really like it. Oh, yes, and so here it is. I think I may have shared this before, but it's so appropriate to share it again. The other night, you know, the night before the half marathon, yes, and I did my first marathon when I was in graduate school, so I've been running a long time and I normally think that it's not the night before the sleep, the night before. That's important for me, it's two nights before. So so if I'm running on a sunday morning, which most of the races now are on sunday they used to be on saturday, but now they're on sunday. So friday night sleep to me is important, because sunday night your adrenaline's going, and you know. So this past time, um, I stayed up all night because I just couldn't go to sleep and I was wondering where the sun went to, and then it dawned on me.
Speaker 1:Anyways, let's get back to it. We're going to start out. I was just trying to think of one of like why we run on Sunday, you know because you know a lot of prayers that day, or you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I was trying to think of something you know I think of prayers that day, or you know, I don't know. I was trying to think of something, you know. I think this is the reason. It's a traffic issue, because if they have to close a street, there's a lot less traffic on a Sunday morning. On Saturday, people are up, they're going to soccer games, baseball games, and most of the time you're not going to run on the sidewalk the whole time, you're going to have to run on the street. So they have to close part of the street or half the street, or sometimes the whole street for a while, and it's just easier to do that on a Sunday, and so I think that was part of the reason that it shifted.
Speaker 1:But let's get back to the I'm still stuck on the dawn numbing. Yeah, let's talk about this. Well, I have another bad dad joke.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh. No, let's go on. All right, all right, We'll talk about that I was going to let you do it.
Speaker 1:So I mean that's fine. So let's talk about this, stuart. Well, let's recap. Let's start in Stuart's in the Bible first, right, and then we'll get into something. So is there any mention in the Bible about stewardship resources?
Speaker 2:resources, I mean.
Speaker 1:I know there is right. It's like a lob ball to you.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's a big softball, or I would say that is a big garage door. Okay, so here's one of the most important ones in the New Testament. Okay, some in the Old Testament, a lot in the New Testament, but one of my favorite ones is Matthew 25. Book of Matthew, first book in the New Testament, chapter 25, verses 14, talks about a man's going on a trip and he gives his servants money to take care of while he's gone on the trip. Okay, and so he gives the money and he goes on a trip, and then he comes back and he wants the stewards to account for what they did with the money while he's gone. And so the first one comes and says well, you know, you gave me this much money, I earned this much money. The second one comes back and says okay, you gave me this much money, I earned this much money. The third one comes back and says you know, you gave me this money, I just hid it in the ground because I knew you were, you know, a tough guy and shrewd and you know hard businessman, and so I just hid it in the ground. Here's your money. And the owner says you know, at least you could have put it in the bank and I would have gotten interest from it. And so you know, in the parable, which Jesus did so much of his teaching.
Speaker 2:Through parables, there's always more than one lesson, and in that particular lesson, the obvious lesson is okay. The lesson is what did the stewards do with the money? Okay, well, yes, two of them did good and they earned more money. One did just hit it in the ground. He wasted the time and effort. That is the obvious lesson, but that's not the most important lesson. The most important lesson is not what did the stewards do with the money, but what did the money do with the steward. What did the money do with the steward? And so, in my opinion, if you look at it that way, the money really revealed the character, integrity of the people that it was entrusted to.
Speaker 2:And so the question is what do the resources that we have say about our character? Does it make us proud, because we make more money than someone else, that we have better health than someone else? Does it make us envious? Does it make us angry? And so, when we're thinking about stewardship, we're thinking about so many aspects of life Like, for example, you.
Speaker 2:You've been a builder of custom homes for almost 30 years now, and I shared this before the show and I'm going to share it.
Speaker 2:You know online here is that you wouldn't be in business if you weren't a good steward of other people's money, and so to me, that says a lot about your integrity, your honesty, your willingness to take the resources of other people, their hard-earned money, and build them a home that they're asking. You know that they want built, and you know you always have ups and downs, but over the long haul, you've proven that you're a man of your word, that you are a good steward of other people's resources and that you've been productive in your business. And so, whether you're an owner of a custom home builder, whether you're a plumber, whether you work for a company, the question is what do you do with the resources that you have been given? What do you do with your time? People like me that are now retired are you just laying around watching TV, chewing on some chips all day, or are you actually saying you know what? I have 40 years of experience in this business. Who am I mentoring? Or am I volunteering at the animal shelter or at the local food bank?
Speaker 1:Come and hang out with me talking on a podcast. Yeah, exactly right. What am I?
Speaker 2:doing to help someone else learn what I've learned over the years, or am I a good steward of my life with the years I have left? And so I think everybody can ask that question, if they really want to, to say, okay, am I being the best steward of my life, of my time, of my talent, of my resources, and if I'm still working, am I a good steward of the company's resources? Am I wasting them? Am I not? So there's so many implications with this topic.
Speaker 1:Now let's go down a rabbit hole here for a second. So let's think of this, because I beat myself up a lot of times because I know that there's a lot of stuff that I still need to be doing, that I just, a lot of times I don't have time to do because life gets in the way, right, you know, and it's a tough balance and and I know a lot of people cause I, I, I, I do coaching and consulting and stuff, and I have this same conversation, let alone do I struggle with it. I know a lot of my clients struggle with it because it's on the list. They know that it's in the heart of hearts, you know it's the wisdom, it's the guidance from God and all that stuff. They know what they need to be doing, but a lot of times they don't do it in the timeframe that needs to be done.
Speaker 1:And, uh, you know, I didn't know if you'd run anything with the church or dealing with people. I'm sure that people have mentioned this to you. I have to believe at some point. You know I'm called this way. And how did they get going?
Speaker 1:How did you, you know, give them that little not kick, but you know, a little push, you know and all that stuff to get them going, because it is a tough thing, because a lot of times we get in habitual where it's go to brush our teeth and next thing you know we're brushing our teeth. Going to bed, you know we get up, brush our teeth and the same day, over and over and it's a time thing, you know. And how are we utilizing these resources of time and and prioritizing our day?
Speaker 2:I think that's a such a key question. So we all have 24 hours in the day, you know, none of us have 30 hours in the day, and so the question is, how are we going to prioritize those things? And so my opinion is we always make time for the things that are important for us. Okay, always. Now, if we're, uh, have a, we might not have time in this season of our life to do some of those things that we want to do because we're traveling, we're working 80-hour weeks. It's just hard for us to do that If you're a single parent and you have three kids at home and you are just exhausted by just going to work and taking care of the kids and taking them to soccer or whatever, there might not be any time. So the question is do you feel that you're being the best steward of what you're doing? So don't think about what you're not doing, think about what you are doing and are you being the best steward of the resources that you can do? And there might be a time, you know, when you say you know what. I'm going to do this for another year. I'm going to try to reprioritize my schedule so that I can, on one Saturday a month. I can do this okay. Maybe we take the kids and we all volunteer at the food bank or we do something. We go help pick up trash or something. So it's not just a matter of what are we doing.
Speaker 2:The question is, if we are responsible for our children or whatever, what are we teaching through our example? Are we just teaching that life is just about going to work, coming home, eating and going to bed and getting up the next day? Hopefully, we're realizing that there's more to life than that. Now, sometimes in life we have a season where that's it, you know, just because of life, and things happen, but hopefully we don't live our life.
Speaker 2:10 give more to live than just making a living, and so I think God has given everybody the opportunities to use their resources, their time, talent, energy, whatever wisdom to help other people. The question is, how are we doing that? And when you have young kids at home, that, to me, is your main responsibility. How do you make sure that you mentor your children so that they can survive in the world and do well, and so I don't want anybody to beat themselves up over the things they can't do. The question is what can you do right now, in this season of your life, to be the best steward of the resources that you have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and one of the things I tell some of my clients is you know, put it as an intention, right. If you're constantly, you know, wake up in the morning and you're doing you know, your morning routine, make sure you're putting it as intention. If it's not physically possible, right, you need to go do this J-O-B because you need the money to feed the kids and keep a roof and all that stuff. Keep putting the intention out. Keep putting it out that I'm trying, I'm trying, I want this, I want this, and lo and behold, you know that's the way it works in the world. You know. You know divine presence, you know, steps in, helps make us happen. And then, even from a scientific standpoint, a lot of times, if we're putting it out, our brain creates a shortcut and you know it puts it in the category of we like this. This is acceptable because we have billions of bits of information bombarding our brain and our eyes and everything every day. And if it's in a thing we have a like, you know, go back to computers, like that trash file, right, it's just thrown over there. But if we put it in, this is our intention, this is what we want to do. You're going to be surprised how many opportunities are thrown at you on a daily basis that you miss because you aren't thinking that this is really going to happen. I mean, think about us in the podcast, right? I mean, what had to happen If you've never heard this story?
Speaker 1:From the very beginning, I had this vision, dream, whatever you want to call it, and I went up and I was like that's never going to happen. I'm talking to my you know the God and my guidance and stuff, and I'm like that can't happen. And I'm talking to my you know the God and my guidance and stuff, and I'm like that can't happen. Dr Posey was a big preacher at one of our big churches around here and I'm like how's this going to work? I don't understand it. Well, all within a matter of three months that he was retired and next thing, you know, I pitched the idea and three, four months later, we're sitting in here doing a podcast. It was the most amazing, divine thing the way it happened. It went down and I kept putting it out like, all right, let's do it. If this is what we need to do, let's do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so the question is the timing.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you might have a desire, and I don't know if people are list makers. I used to have a list every week of things that I wanted to do and I'd prioritize that. Yes, abcs and one two, three Exactly. And it's old school, but it really works and and I use paper A lot of people put it on their phone. Now, however, works for you.
Speaker 1:I have it on my phone. But I printed on my phone.
Speaker 2:But I printed it on my printer.
Speaker 1:This morning it's like a dump bubble into things. Right, it's just the way our brain works, right?
Speaker 2:On Sunday night, I'd always update my list, and so the question is is there something on your list that you want to do? You just don't have time to do it? Well, don't drop it off your list, but don't beat yourself up because you can't get to it. So, like yes, right now I'm heavily involved in exercise and triathlon and you know those kind of things. There's no way I could have done that while I was working. There was just no way. There was just too many things to handle in life to spend that kind of time. I know some people are able to do that. I was not able to do it, and so, but once I retired.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of demands. I mean, not only are you doing your day job, but then you're going to hospitals and you're going to meet with people all the time, and then yeah, exactly Right, and so some people.
Speaker 2:that's their life and that's just how it is, and there's a good and a bad about that, but that's the season they're in. But don't give up on the dream that. But that's the season they're in, but don't give up on the dream. Okay, and don't give up. So let's just say you have an hour commute In Dallas-Fort Worth. That's probably normal on a daily basis. You have an hour to get to work. So my question is what are you doing during that hour? Okay, are you just listening to music? Are you listening to the radio? Are you listening to try to learn another language? Are you listening to podcasts to learn how to do your job better? I mean, how are you taking care of that particular? That's two hours a day of potential learning opportunity.
Speaker 1:Audible Masterclass. That's two of my favorites that I listen to all the time.
Speaker 2:And there's so much resources out there that you could take advantage of. So if you're commuting, if you're taking your kid to the karate tournament or karate, and you can't be in the room, what are you doing for that hour while you're waiting? Are you reading a book? My wife is an avid reader and so she reads a lot and she loves it.
Speaker 1:That's one of my motivations. To exercise is to walk, because I listen to Audible the whole time and I actually can get my book reading in and that's a dedicated time that I can't make excuses right. Either I listen to music or I listen to Audible, and that's where I always do. My wife always goes really, you're just listening to a book while you're running and I'm like, well, yeah, she goes, how do you do that? I'm like it's my brain. This is my time to multitask and get things done.
Speaker 2:I can't listen to music when I'm running. I'm so worried about breathing. Okay, but, I know some people that they walk in the morning and they pray for every house in their neighborhood.
Speaker 1:Oh nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's called prayer walking, and so the question is, what are you going to be doing with the time? And if we actually evaluate our time and do a time study and say, okay, I spend this much time commuting, I spend this much time at work?
Speaker 1:I actually have people do that I spend this much time at work.
Speaker 2:I actually have people do that. Yes, because it helps them objectively look at their day. Not that you have to be so rigid and concrete about it, because there's always things that come up, but you can find 15 minutes here, 30 minutes here or something. Not that you have to be busy 24-7. Right, but you might be saying you know what, instead of getting home and watching a movie every night, I'm going to start learning how to play guitar, I'm going to maybe start reading the Bible more, or I am going to listen to books more, or I am going to study astronomy or whatever you have an interest in and just start doing that over time. It's not like you spend eight hours one day doing it. It's those 30 minutes a day or a couple of times a week that you take advantage of that opportunity of time and you get better at something you pique your interest. And then, once you begin to do that, you'll realize, oh, I should have been doing this all along. I'm just going to keep doing it because I enjoy it so much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's what it is. It's getting started. It's getting started. It's taking the baby steps to get started. Once you get started, it's like a workout. I mean, most everybody in here has probably at some point in their life decided they need to work out more. And you either do it full blast and then you get burnt out and then you don't work out, or, if you do baby steps, you start walking.
Speaker 1:I mean how hard is it to walk, you know, and that's why I tell people how hard is it to do a 10 little squats. How do you get out of the shower Right, Do a little, 10 little squats, or or two pushups. You know, start with two pushups, it don't matter, 10 pushups is what I would like for you to do. But go to your knees, do 10 pushups. It doesn't have to be straight pushups. But if you do that for a week, two weeks, you'd be like, oh wow, look, I got a little muscle definition on there. And then you get excited because you get that reward thing that's planted in your head Like, oh okay, we're getting this. So many people, if they don't see that reward, they're membership February 1st. They don't even give it a month from January 1st, february 1st, and they drop their membership February 1st, number one day.
Speaker 2:That people cancel gym memberships. Wow, it's crazy. So when I started doing pushups, I never had a lot of upper body strength. Okay, you don't need that when you're a runner. So so I thought, okay, I'm going to start doing pushupsups, okay, just to build up upper body strength. You know, when you're cycling you're leaning over and those kind of stuff. So I'm going to start doing push-ups. So I started one every day for a week, then the next week I would do two every day, and then the next week three, and you know it takes a year, but in a year you're going to end up to 50.
Speaker 2:And it's like there's no way I could do 50 at the beginning but it's little baby steps along the way.
Speaker 2:And so let's get back to this whole concept, because I think, underlying the concept of stewardship, there's some principles that I think are important, and the first one for me is the principle of ownership, and that is, who is really the owner? And I believe that God is the one that created us, he's the one that gives us every breath that we breathe as a gift, every heartbeat we have as a gift from him, and so I see him as the one who is the giver. I am the steward of my life, and so I think that changes the way we look at life, that I am responsible for taking care of this life that I have been given. None of us know how long, you know how many days we will live. We want to live as long as possible, and how are we taking care of ourself to do that? So it's really an ownership thing that I am the one that received the gift and God is the one who was the giver, and I want to live my life as an expression of thanks for the gift that I have been given. And so, if you look at it that way, that really can change the perspective, the whole paradigm of life.
Speaker 2:Say, if you work for a business and you don't own it, you're not the owner, you're the manager. Well, it's the same concept. You have been given this opportunity to run a business. You're not the owner, you are the steward of the owner and you're responsible for making daily decisions, you're responsible for hiring and firing, you're responsible for the finances, all that kind of stuff. How are you—it's the same concept for me that you would think it's in the Bible, even though it's not—you're not in church. You're running a plumbing business or you're running a landscaping business, and so to me that's important is who is the actual owner and what am I doing to take care of the resources that I have been given?
Speaker 2:It takes a lot of humility to acknowledge that. So I think that's another principle of stewardship. Is that humility? Am I humble about this? Am I proud? Is this resources that I've been given because I have extra talent to play baseball or whatever? Am I humble about this? Am I proud? Is this resources that I've been getting because I have extra talent to play baseball or whatever? Am I boastful about that? Am I humble about that? Or am I looking down on other people because they don't have this talent, they don't have the resources, and so you can tell a lot about people, about if they're humble or not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's one of my favorite things. That's why I guess one of my big things is corporate leadership.
Speaker 1:I do so much corporate training it's like giving back you know, and I love taking speakers and giving them the skills they need, or project managers or whoever it might be, just to be able to give them the skills that they might be missing or they need to excel on. You know, and here's the thing, you know, when I'm teaching classes and doing all my corporate training and stuff and I tell my classes all this time there's not usually a class that I don't go through that I learn something from the audience. Right, I'm not all knowing. There's all. We have skills. We all have a level that we've exceeded. This is our expertise, and so I always learn something when I teach. Just because I'm departing a lot of wisdom doesn't mean that I'm not actually learning as well.
Speaker 2:Correct. And so you have to think okay, if I'm going into this particular situation, they'll just say I'm the boss or I'm the team leader to do. We're having a team meeting. If you go in there with humility, then you're going to walk in and say, okay, I might have the agenda, I might be the boss, I might be the one making decisions. However, what can I learn from my team members today? Or do you have the idea that they're only going to learn from you? You're going to be a top-down person. You're not open to learning. You're not open to ideas from your team because you have all the answers. That, to me, is also an issue of stewardship. It's not just humility, because you're saying that I'm the one that has all the answers. I'm not open to learning, and I think that says a lot about your character.
Speaker 1:If you're not willing to do that, yeah, some of the things on stewardship that pops up that we've mentioned responsibility, accountability, sustainability, ethical management of your resources. And that's the way I look at it with my guys. Right, they have a responsibility, they have a job, they've been entrusted. I've empowered my guys. That means I've given them free reign to make decisions based on my company, but at the same time, I'm going to hold them accountable. I'm going to you know, step up, what have you done today? What are we doing tomorrow? What do we? What do we got going on? And you know that's that's ultimately going into sustainability and ethical management. You know we need to be able to put these in place right, if, if everybody's doing the little piece that everything's assigned to them, we're going to have this sustainability.
Speaker 1:We've been doing this for going on 30 years. One of my guys worked for me for 24 years now. So I mean we've been doing this a long time and you know that's part of it, but I mean those are the resources gave. I mean, here's the thing I tell people all the time I don't hire another Tim's to run my company to work with me because I can do that unless I'm hiring a sales guy. I'm the outgoing. Can I do technical stuff? Yes, do I have to do technical stuff? Yes, but I'm going to find somebody that likes the technical stuff. I'm going to find somebody that can get the job done.
Speaker 1:That's the doer right, because I'm traveling the country, speaking, doing this and I've got a lot of managerial stuff going on and I have a lot on my plate. I need somebody out there doing the work. If I didn't have the people out there in the field going at it, making the phone calls, organize people, meeting people, getting everything done Well then that would limit my ability to be speaker to a corporate trainer, real estate and everything else I do on the side, on the side as, as general right, all my different companies Uh, that's what we need and you have to enhance those abilities and I look for those people that have the resources that fill in the gaps of where I have. I mean, one of the things we do is a SWOT analysis, right, and that's one of the things what's my weaknesses and that's what I really need to hire.
Speaker 2:So what I'm hearing you say in between the lines is one of the most important aspect of stewardship for you and, I think, for anybody listening today that the people is. How am I taking care of the people around me? Yes, okay, not just. Am I taking care of the money. Am I taking care of my concrete? How am I taking care of my subcontractors? How am I rewarding them or encouraging them? Because we're working together as partners.
Speaker 2:It's like we're putting together a puzzle, and if I think I have all the answers and I have to put all the pieces in place, it's not going to go very well. But if I take care of my people now, I hold them accountable. It's not like they have free reign to do anything they want or sloppy work, but if they know what's expected of them and we know that we're a team, that we work together, then things go so much better. And I think the same thing would be true with any job. You have any family. What is it? How am I treating the other people? Because I believe that God brings people into our lives, and so the question is how are we stewarding those friendships?
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, and you're right on the dot on that, If it weren't for my clients. I've got to take care of my clients my internal management team.
Speaker 1:I've got to take care of my clients. My internal management team, I got to take care of them all the way to my subs. I mean, that's one of the things, and I see a lot of people they treat people badly and I honestly say that I would probably say that most everybody that's worked with me from a subcontractor or something like that would probably I could call them up and go, hey, I need you to come back to work for me. They that would probably I could call them up and go hey, I need you to come back to work for me. They might be mad at me because I fired them off a job, I didn't use them or whatever. Not saying that because I don't put up with stuff, but at the same time, I think, as far as a person, I don't think there was anybody that would say I've never worked for that, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, because that's just not how I treat people, that's not how I want to be treated and I don't treat people the same way.
Speaker 2:Good point, good point. So let's kind of step away from that. Let's do and let's get into some dad jokes.
Speaker 1:Dad jokes it's getting to be that time. Yes, it is. I saw you looking over there. I'm like all right, I have so many horrible dad jokes for today.
Speaker 2:So one of your subs is your landscape person. Yes, right, that does all your landscaping, your brickwork, stonework and plants and all this. So what did the alien say to the landscaper? Oh, this is one that I have never heard before by gosh, you dug deep on this one, so I do not know. Take me to your weeder.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm hearing a moan from the audience already. Yeah, I know they're like oh my gosh, what else you got? I'm looking at mine. I haven't even really.
Speaker 2:Okay, what has four wheels and flies Four wheels and flies.
Speaker 1:That can be a lot of stuff. Yeah, a garbage truck Nice, probably hadn't heard that one either. I hadn't heard that one. You've been doing good on your little research there.
Speaker 2:Yes, and so you build houses. How many houses that you build now have chimneys, fireplaces?
Speaker 1:Is that a new thing now?
Speaker 2:No, no, I have a lot of them that have chimneys, yeah, so how much does a chimney cost?
Speaker 1:Depends on what kind of chimney you put.
Speaker 2:I was going to say nothing. It's on the house.
Speaker 1:Look at you go.
Speaker 2:I am just tearing it up.
Speaker 1:I should tear these up, shouldn't I? That was pretty good, yeah, no, I was just looking at some of mine that I pulled up and they're groaners. I just don't know if I could do it.
Speaker 2:Okay, how do you make I'll give you one more. How do you make seven an even number?
Speaker 1:Oh, I know lots of number sayings but I won't say them on the biblical.
Speaker 2:How do you make number seven an even number? Don't know. Take away the S Nice. I can hear the groaning now, but that's actually pretty good because I do a lot of things on that one.
Speaker 1:I did not know that one actually. So a lot of times I'll take the Roman numeral six and tell people, with doing one line, make it into six, and that would be drawing an S you can make Roman numeral six. Six, a room of number four.
Speaker 2:Four.
Speaker 1:Four into six, wouldn't that be XI right? Ix would be four right.
Speaker 2:IX is nine.
Speaker 1:IX is nine, nine, so you'd take nine and make it six. There you go. Yeah, wow, it's a new math, I know right.
Speaker 2:So you drive all over Dallas-Fort Worth building houses. I do. Okay, so how many is the new thing? These traffic circles. There are so many traffic circles now. It drives me crazy. I just think where are the stoplights? The less and less stoplights. I guess the traffic flow is better with traffic circles. I don't know. I just don't like traffic circles. To me, they're just pointless.
Speaker 1:I was trying to figure out where you're going with that one.
Speaker 2:I don't know I was trying to figure out that too.
Speaker 1:Well, I think we're going to stop on that one. So yeah, I don't know. That last one, maybe it was a groaner. Oh, you know, I got a gift bag. We had some friends gave me a gift bag and it had summer sausage.
Speaker 2:It had some cheese and crackers in it. It was really really good. But why is sausage bad for you?
Speaker 1:Why is sausage bad for you? I do not know.
Speaker 2:Because it brings out the worst in people. All right, there you go, throw that one in. Maybe we should stop on that one. Yeah, we'll stop on that one.
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