Biblical Leadership Show
The Biblical Leadership Show podcast explores timeless principles of leadership through a biblical lens, offering insightful discussions and practical wisdom for leaders seeking to integrate faith and leadership in their personal and professional lives. Join us as we delve into biblical narratives, lessons, and values to inspire and equip leaders to make a positive impact in their communities and organizations.
Biblical Leadership Show
Fostering Excellence: Embracing Persistence, Community, and Personal Growth
Get ready to be inspired as Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey welcome back a very special guest—Elisa, Tim’s daughter, and an exemplary former congregant! Fresh off her stellar achievement of making the Principal's List, Elisa shares her academic journey, favorite subjects, and even a hilarious mishap with forgotten homework. We also sprinkle in some humor with a math-themed dad joke and dive deep into the practical side of math in daily life. This heartwarming segment will not only bring a smile to your face but also shed light on the differences between striving for excellence and the pitfalls of perfectionism.
Our conversation takes a passionate turn as we explore the essence of excellence, illustrated by personal stories of overcoming challenges like triathlon training and the daunting task of open water swimming. We emphasize the role of a supportive community and the importance of persistence in reaching your goals. We discuss how setting realistic standards can boost your progress and self-improvement, contrasting it with the detrimental effects of perfectionism. This segment is a goldmine for anyone looking to find balance and inspiration in their journey toward excellence.
Finally, we delve into a biblical perspective on excellence, referencing Philippians 3:7-14, and discuss how a relationship with Christ can offer a fresh start. Addressing the modern challenge of comparing oneself to others, we stress the importance of focusing on personal standards and values to achieve one's own version of excellence. We wrap up with a delightful story of a young girl preparing for a talent show, highlighting practice and dedication. With encouragement, humor, and practical advice, this episode aims to inspire, uplift, and motivate you to continuously strive for excellence in every aspect of life.
all right, All right. Welcome to another exciting episode of the Biblical Leadership Show. My name is Tim Lansford and I'm Dr Dean Posey.
Speaker 2:We've got to say it Welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 1:I know I had like a calm introduction.
Speaker 2:I know, was the coffee wearing off or what? I'm serious and stuff what this week you know.
Speaker 1:So you know. Hey, you know, last week we had a special guest in the studio and we did we had some awesome reviews come in and uh, so we invited her back this week and this is the famous who's in the studio with us.
Speaker 2:Elisa Elisa.
Speaker 1:So what's your relationship here to the people in the show, the Biblical Leadership Show?
Speaker 3:Well, Tim Lanceford's my dad, and Dean Posey was my preacher for a while.
Speaker 1:There you go Well there you go. So this is just people that you know and that you hang out with and all that stuff, yeah.
Speaker 2:Right before the show, we were talking about your favorite subjects at school and you got on the what was it called the list.
Speaker 3:Principal's list.
Speaker 2:Now, when I grew up principal's list, that was something you didn't want to be on. Yeah, principal's list. Now, when I grew up principal's list, that was something you didn't want to be on yeah, principal's list.
Speaker 1:When you got on the principal's list in our time, that means you were bad. You were probably going to go get swatted with the big paddle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or have some serious time out. So we were on the principal's list.
Speaker 3:You may have had the dumb hat or sit in the corner or something, or sit in the corner or something, or sit in the corner.
Speaker 1:Write on that chalkboard a whole bunch of times. I won't be bad. I won't be bad.
Speaker 2:I remember having to. If somebody had to write, I will not talk in class 50 times.
Speaker 1:Oh, I will not chew gum.
Speaker 3:What you could have done is write I won't chew gum and then do times 50.
Speaker 2:No you had to spell it out. And you had to sit in class, and if that meant you didn't get it done before recess, you just had to sit there and do it.
Speaker 3:Different times and sometimes one person would do it and the whole class would have to write it, and oh, we were not happy about that, you know what's annoying Sometimes, like people forget to bring in their homework and one time I will not say their name, but one time someone didn't bring in their homework and they were like oh, my mom forgot to pack it for me. I'm like dude that's your, and the teacher was like dude. That's your responsibility, well good, yeah, 100%.
Speaker 2:That goes to what we were talking about last week about having integrity of speech.
Speaker 1:Integrity, right, you can't blame it on somebody else. It's your job to get your homework in, so you pass right. So you made principles list and you were good and you had a lot of good times.
Speaker 2:And we were talking about your favorite subjects and you said reading and math. Is there another?
Speaker 3:one. Yeah, okay, there's another one, and it's actually Bible study.
Speaker 2:Okay, bible study, that's good, that's good. So we talk about the corporate stuff, we talk about biblical, but we also do dad jokes. So I got a dad joke for you. Okay, let's hear it. Since you like math, here we go. You ready, yep, why did the math book look so sad?
Speaker 3:I don't know why.
Speaker 2:Because it had too many problems.
Speaker 3:Because there's division, long division multiplication.
Speaker 2:And there's like Fractions, division of fractions, multiplication of fractions. I don't know what that is. You haven't gotten that yet. You will.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of it. There's a lot of math. And then there's algebra, algebra.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:And trigonometry and geometry.
Speaker 3:Oh, geometry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's also history.
Speaker 1:There is history. There is history Really.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But history is also a good subject.
Speaker 1:History is a good subject. Are you looking forward to the fourth grade? Yeah, you think it's going to be the best year ever.
Speaker 3:We learned division, dad oh okay, and long division.
Speaker 2:You learned long division? Yeah, without a calculator you had to do it by hand. That's so good. Good to learn it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Like, the teacher will kind of teach you more. The teacher will teach you and then you had to kind of you got to have it memorized, but she'll talk about it multiple times over the semester and bring it up.
Speaker 2:What about like addition to subtraction?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's something you see very commonly, like sometimes like division and subtraction. You'll hear a lot about that.
Speaker 2:Well, that's such an important thing, because what happens if you get a job? You know you're a teenager. You get a job at Brahms, chick-fil-a or something like that, and you have to make change. Someone gives you some money and you have to give them change. You have to know math.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you have to learn a lot of math for that. You've got to take the amount that they gave you and minus it by how much they need back, and it would be great if you could do that without looking at the cash register. Right, yeah it would be, but sometimes people need to look at the cash register.
Speaker 2:That's exactly right, and so many people now don't have cash.
Speaker 1:They just charge it right, that's exactly right, so they don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 3:They got tips and they got credit cards All you need.
Speaker 1:That's it. That's exactly so. Do you remember the word of the day that we talked about? Excellence, excellence.
Speaker 3:Excellence.
Speaker 1:Excellent that you remembered excellence.
Speaker 2:Yes. So excellence for me is a quality of being outstanding or extremely good Doesn't mean you're perfect. There's a difference between perfection and excellence. Okay, but just trying to be outstanding or extremely good, yeah. And just think about here just in a few weeks we have the Olympics coming up in Paris and those people strive for excellence. They've been working since they were young to be at the Olympics.
Speaker 3:Like some gymnasts, start when they were three and sometimes they'll get into the Olympics.
Speaker 2:Yes, they will, and the same is true with swimmers or runners. Some people have a natural talent for those things and they're just really good. But even if they're good, they still want to get better. Yes, so even the best athletes still have coaches. They watch themselves on video, so they can just get better.
Speaker 3:I know some people have like personal trainers that can help them out if they need help.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:Like sometimes, the personal trainers know that they need help on this after watching that videotape of them.
Speaker 2:Correct. They watch themselves and they go. You know what? I didn't do that well, how can I practice just that one thing?
Speaker 3:Sometimes it's strength exercising that they need. Sometimes it's just a little more experience.
Speaker 2:Yes, and maybe it's changing their technique just a little bit, or stop doing one thing and start doing another.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is sometimes sad. Yeah, nice and sometimes it's the way they eat. Sometimes they need to go on a diet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, nutrition is a very important part of having excellent health.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's important you know, so every so often, like you know, after the studio, today, going next door to get ice cream.
Speaker 3:Okay, well ice cream is really good ice cream is really good it's.
Speaker 1:It's milk, right. Milk's good for you, isn't that right and so?
Speaker 2:what's your favorite? Ice cream, not, not, not like, not vanilla with stuff in it, just just plain ice cream. What's your favorite?
Speaker 3:that's hard, that's hard, huh that's really hard because I like all of them.
Speaker 2:You like all of them.
Speaker 3:Except chocolate. I do not like chocolate.
Speaker 2:You don't like chocolate? No. I don't know where she comes from when did she get that from, but her?
Speaker 1:brother and myself, the chocolates are our favorite, but I mean, we don't have to fight over it.
Speaker 3:We don't have to get into it. She's not a big chocolate fan, so maybe you just get Mommy's stuff, you and Mommy like the same stuff, so like vanilla, strawberry Ooh, that's hard, I'm going to go vanilla and ooh, coconut, mango, vanilla and strawberry.
Speaker 2:All mixed together. No, sometimes separate, sometimes mixed, sometimes separate Coconut, that sounds delicious.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not a coconut fan, not a coconut fan.
Speaker 3:Yesterday we went to a. Mexican ice cream place with my mom. I'm not a coconut fan. Yesterday we went to a Mexican ice cream place with my mom and I got a coconut, mango and rainbow sprinkle Mist.
Speaker 2:With rainbow sprinkles on it. That's crazy. I need to find out where that is. It is. It's pretty close actually.
Speaker 1:It's over by our house. So let's talk about excellence a little bit. Thank you for being with us.
Speaker 2:Excellence in ice cream making. Excellence in ice cream making. Excellence in ice cream making.
Speaker 1:We should do that.
Speaker 2:We should try that.
Speaker 1:yeah, this show is sponsored by Brahms Brahms, if you know us out here in Texas about surpassing standards to achieve outcomes that are over the top, that are really good for the benefit of the company and to make a profit, or whatever that might be. And for me, what do you consider for biblical leadership excellence?
Speaker 2:Let's just talk about excellence in general, and then we'll hone in, because I've got several scriptures that I want to share.
Speaker 2:Let's just talk about excellence as an umbrella and in my research doing show prep, there are several elements of excellence. Elements of excellence. One is your passion for your goals. You have a goal, most people have some goals, but do you have passion to actually reach that? I mean, is your passion excellent or is it just kind of mediocre? Do you beat yourself up because no, I can't do it. It'd be great but I just can't do it? So I think part of excellence is your commitment or your passion for your goals.
Speaker 2:The second part of excellence, I think is are you willing to put in the hard work to pursue excellence, or are you trying to just do it the easy way or get around the bush or something like that? Are you just, are you trying to just kind of do it halfway? So I think part of excellence is not just your commitment to the goal, but are you willing to put the hard work in to reach the goal. And then the other part of excellence is do you believe in yourself that you can actually do it? And I think a lot of people might struggle with that third part because growing up they might have been told that they can do it or they're not good enough to do it, or they don't have the skill to do it or the knowledge to do it or whatever. You fill in the blank, but they don't believe in themselves. So I think part of the element of excellence is believing in yourself to do that, and I think that's one reason it's important to surround yourself with positive people Like, for example, you know, for the last year and a half I've been into a triathlon training and I joined a triathlon club in Fort Worth Amazing group of people.
Speaker 2:We had last Saturday open swim practice down at the lake down in South Fort Worth and everybody was so encouraging, positive. How can I help you do this? And you need to surround yourself with people like that, because I don't have a whole lot of experience in open water swimming. I mean, like swimming in a lake, it's a whole different thing than swimming in a swimming pool and I didn't have all the confidence. But the more I do it, the more I'm around people like that. They're encouraging me. I'm thinking, okay, I can do this. So part of the excellence is do you have the self-confidence to actually do what you want to?
Speaker 1:do. Yeah, I mean you can gain pretty good confidence swimming around all the alligators. Yes, exactly right, and so we only had to dodge three of them.
Speaker 2:Three of them, yeah, and just one water moccasin. So other than that, it was good, right there right there.
Speaker 1:You know, I think back I I grew up in, I didn't grow up on the lake, I grew up on like fish and stuff, but my, my, uh. My roommates in college were both out of lake of the ozarks and that's all we did. We're in the water, you know we were, we were swimming, we were playing tag around the boat docks, swimming in and out of them and jumping off and you know going and I'm like boy, just would I do that today I don't know that I would do some of the silly stuff that I did, Cause I mean now I know snakes, I know all the stuff that's in the water.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know some dangers. I think in different terms in my head of like, avoid that, be good for these little kiddos here.
Speaker 3:But I'm like I just, it sounds pretty risky though I'm pretty risky it sounds pretty risky.
Speaker 1:Swimming with snakes and slithering and all that stuff that was there.
Speaker 2:Well, I grew up in New Mexico. There was like one lake in the entire state, so I didn't have a whole lot of options, except we learned to swim in the YMCA. So that's what we did and that's where I learned to swim at an early age. I never was a good swimmer, but I certainly enjoy it. So let's go back to the principles, because you talked about something two weeks ago when you were on the podcast without me, and I appreciate you doing that, and that is the whole thing of perfectionism.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:There's a big difference between excellence and perfectionism. And so excellence is is striving to be outstanding or above average, okay, and you know you can always improve but perfectionism you have such a high standard that anything other than perfect is intolerable, and so you beat yourself up. Whatever you could be extremely the best in your field, but if it's not perfect, perfect, then you're going to criticize yourself, and so self-condemnation is such an enemy of excellence. And just think okay, I'm learning from this, I'm doing this, how can I get better? I'm just going to keep striving, striving, striving. And if you think you have to be perfect, that is going to be a big enemy of excellence. And so you have to examine am I a perfectionist to the point where I'm going to be critical of myself if I'm not perfect in everything, because no one has ever done that except Jesus. And so you have to think okay, am I just going to strive for excellence or am I going to strive for perfection?
Speaker 1:And so, before you ever start out, I think that's a good thing to think about perfection, and so, before you ever start out, I think that's a good thing to think about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think it's, it's it's good to look at it. As far as you know, it's really tough and I know a lot of people struggle with perfectionism and and how they go about it. Um, you know it's it's if you strive and you do your best. You know, know, we talk about this with you, at least in gymnastics, right? Do I think that you'll be the Olympic gymnastic person you could be?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I could be if I work just a tad bit harder.
Speaker 1:A tad bit harder because she doesn't strive for excellence every day. Sometimes I look over and she's trying to figure out how to, you know, maybe do the lunges but then take two steps in between the lunges she's supposed to do. Yeah, because it hurts my feet when I do it.
Speaker 3:Because you have to keep your feet like on the floor and you can't get on your knee, so it hurts really bad.
Speaker 1:But I mean, you strive to be the best that you can be right, so you don't have to be perfect in anything and everything you do, but you want to be the best right. It's sort of like she's on a big lego kick now, so she's building lego kick I'm on the last bag.
Speaker 3:I'm building the head and then I'll be done with it.
Speaker 2:I've built like four other of them four of these big ones that come with the six or ten bags and stuff, so she's been putting those together and what is it going to be when you finish, when you end up? What's the shape?
Speaker 3:This one's going to be a panda.
Speaker 2:A panda.
Speaker 3:It's going to be a big panda, but it's going to have a drawer that you can open and it's going to be like a big house, like a big apartment of a panda.
Speaker 2:Inside the panda.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Wow, and how tall is this panda?
Speaker 3:I would say like. I would say like, maybe that big.
Speaker 1:Maybe that yeah.
Speaker 3:About a foot, you know, for the listeners.
Speaker 1:And when we're talking about the Legos, I mean you're striving for excellence, you want to do it, you've been watching the directions, but every once in a while there's been a couple pieces missing, right? Yes, and you didn't get twisted over it. You're like well, how can I redesign this?
Speaker 3:So that's the difference between perfectionism. I was building this big golem house and they were missing so many pieces for the arm of the golem and I was like you know what? I'm just going to make it an armless golem. It's going to have one arm only, and she did.
Speaker 2:Well, let's go back to what you just said. You've got to follow the instructions. Yes, right, if you just have a bag of Legos and you have no instructions, you might get there. It's going to take a lot longer. It's just like putting together a puzzle that has a thousand pieces and you don't have the top to the box and you're trying to figure out. I saw a puzzle the other day. Our grandkids were in town and so we took them to the Department of the Treasury, where they print money in North Fort Worth, and we saw them print all this money. And then we walk inside at the gift shop and they have a puzzle that has a picture on both sides.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 2:Yes, and it's a triangle. Okay, it's a triangle puzzle and there's a picture on both sides. And I'm thinking, oh my, unless you actually could see the picture of what it's supposed to end up like, how in the world would you know which side to turn up and down? And I thought, wow, you got to follow the instructions. And I think that's so true in excellence If we want to have excellence in something, we've got to follow a pattern. We've got to follow the instructions to reach a certain level of excellence.
Speaker 3:Yeah, god always has a plan for us and it helps us. And God always has a plan for us and it helps us kind of know and he already knows what's going to happen in the future. So he's kind of like preparing us with our thoughts and he's trying to help us in every single way he can.
Speaker 2:That was great. Thank you for saying that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Okay so let's go talk to the biblical. So in the book of Philippians, 4, verse 8, which is an incredible chapter in itself, but this verse 8, we read these Finally, brothers and sisters whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. And so Paul's encouraging us to think about those things that are excellent. You've got to envision what excellence is going to mean. So, if you're learning to play piano, or if you're doing a sport, if you're an artist, if you're a chef, he's thinking okay, what would excellence look like if I? What's the goal? And you've got to, and Vince, you've got to put that in your mind. So you have something to think about. And Paul's saying you know those things that are excellent, those things that are godly and holy you need to be thinking about those things and living that kind of life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and from the corporate. You know one of the things love him or hate him. Elon Musk, you know, with the SpaceX, the Teslas and the SpaceX program, just the vision to have it out there and how much he strives to be excellent. I mean the technology that they're doing about bringing back the rockets and reusing them and all that stuff that's out there.
Speaker 3:Don't forget the Cybertruck. The Cybertruck is really cool.
Speaker 1:You like the Cybertruck? Yeah, you think I should get one of those.
Speaker 3:It's way out of your league.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's way out of my league, all right.
Speaker 3:The best you can do is a new Cadillac you bought yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, I like that.
Speaker 2:Cybertruck. I saw one of those and I thought, what in the world is that? And then I thought, oh, it's a Cybertruck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:They're really expensive.
Speaker 2:They're very expensive.
Speaker 3:They haven't even been released yet. They're like only prototypes. No, they've been released, I think afford them. Oh, they're like thousands of millions of dollars.
Speaker 1:Thousands of millions of dollars. I don't know about that.
Speaker 3:They literally have all the new technology.
Speaker 1:They have some technology. They're pretty nice.
Speaker 3:You know how expensive the Teslas are.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's exactly right. So let's talk about excellence Go ahead. No, I was exactly right. So let's talk about excellence Go ahead. No, I was going to say one more Scripture verse that I think is helpful.
Speaker 2:It's easy to say but it's very difficult to do. And that's from the same book, the book of Philippians. This one's from chapter 3. We're starting with verse 7. And this is what.
Speaker 1:Let me make sure that I read the right chapter here look at all my show prep and I don't even have the one for Philippians yeah, philippians, chapter 3, that's pretty impressive because usually we sync up my show prep and your show prep usually comes pretty close.
Speaker 3:I don't have this one, tell me, tell me.
Speaker 1:I'm going to learn something. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3:I'm ready to hear it.
Speaker 2:Okay. So chapter 3, verse 7 through 14, we read this, and the big verse is on verse 13,. But here we go. But whatever gain I had, I counted as loss, for the sake of Christ. Indeed, I count everything as lost because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus, my Lord. For his sake, I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith that I may know him and the power of his resurrection and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death. That, by any means possible, I may attain the resurrection from the dead.
Speaker 2:Then listen to these words. Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own Brothers. I do not consider that I have made it my own, but one thing I do here's the point forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead. I press on toward the goal, for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus, and I think a lot of people don't think they can ever achieve excellence because they can't forget what was in their past life, the mistakes they made or the things that they did, or whatever. They beat themselves up over things. They can't forget it, and so they just almost have defeated before they ever start.
Speaker 2:And so I think that's one of the powerful things about a relationship with Christ is he can help us start anew. We were talking before the show about Mary Magdalene in the Bible and what an incredible story of transformation that she had a new life because not from her own efforts, but by the grace of God. So, by the grace of God that comes through Christ, we can start over. We can't change the past, but we can, through the help of Christ, change how much the past influences our present and future, and for some people that past weighs so heavy on them that they don't see a possibility for excellence in the future, so for anything. And so one of the things I think that we can do through this show and through other means is to help people have that relationship so that they can start anew and forget the things. They won't forget them, but they don't have to be restricted. They don't have to be bound, they don't have to be contained by those things and the memories of the past.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think I'll take that even one step farther the past. A lot of people are hindered by the past, but I think in today's world, I think a lot of the stuff that we have, an excellence is p from. That that people have problems with is comparing themselves to the the other person yes, so in other words what kind of video might put posting up that compares to this guy?
Speaker 1:or I need to post pictures of our uh dinner, because our four friends posted pictures of their dinner, you know, and whatever it might be. And I think, if we live by standards, that we need to get back to standards that fall into what each of us believe right, each of us represent as a leader, as a Christian, and not compare ourselves to the other, because I think that that's where a lot of people go stray and they don't feel like they're ever accomplished in excellence, but they've far exceeded excellence, probably based on standards of growing up and different things like that, but they just don't feel like they have the fancy cars, the fancy house and all this stuff and they try to compare to other people, and I think we got to get out of that to a point.
Speaker 2:I think that's one of the biggest mistakes, and I know I did that a lot growing up. It never was good, because eventually, when you compare yourself to others, you always come out on the short end, always. And now at one point you might come out on the top end. But if you keep doing that someone's, eventually you're not going to be as good as somebody. Someone's going to be better. Just think about the Olympics. There's going to be so many records that are shattered here in Paris this summer that 10, 20 years ago we wouldn't even have thought about those records being shattered. And so once we start comparing ourselves to others, eventually we're going to be on the short end of the stick. So we can strive for excellence and just focus on that instead of trying to compare ourselves to others and remembering, maybe, the mistakes we made in the past.
Speaker 1:I saw the video of here a while back and it was a week or so ago, I don't know what her name is I think she's one of the Katie's where she was doing like the 1500 meter and then she tagged and then she just stood there. She took off her little swim hat and she was just sitting there, washed her hair and I was like what are we seeing a video of? She was just out there just hanging out and then all of a sudden one person comes and tags the wall.
Speaker 1:She beat him in like 20 seconds and then all of a sudden three other people showed up, and then the whole pack showed up. I'm like holy mackerel, that's amazing.
Speaker 2:She's a phenomenal swimmer, incredible.
Speaker 1:She's like a bullet, I mean my goodness, Because I wasn't watching, I wasn't paying attention. All I saw was her just sort of sitting there in the water. I'm like, well, this is an odd Olympics. You know what are they just showing her like getting warmed up Time trials. Yeah, but it was, and she was just there just hanging out waiting for people to show up and I thought that was great, I'm here.
Speaker 2:The party started.
Speaker 1:So here you know, I want to brag on this little girl here beside me that you know. You know, this end of this last year we're talking about excellence, and we talked about this as she entered a talent show and all her friends, you know, were doing talent shows and there was doing two or three people doing dances and all this and she, she wasn't, uh, any point, you know, and she went on stage by herself and did her own program in front of this big auditorium yeah, it was really big there's like a hundred people there, a lot more than a hundred people even then and it was just so impressive that she had did this.
Speaker 1:And you know what we talked about is that go out and do, do your best. And because she was a little nervous at first, but then she was fine, she was ready, excited to do it and she went out and she was one of the best ones out there and she did really good.
Speaker 2:So what'd you do?
Speaker 3:I did a cheer dance. I mixed cheer with dancing and I did this little performance to the song Dynamite by BTS and sort of what I did was a little cheer with my pom-poms. And then I slid into the split and then did this and then I walked and in the split I did a little wave pom-pom and then I got up and walked off the stage at my cue. My cue was a part in the song which I forgot the name part, but it was like I think it was bring your friends and then I would get up and walk off stage so did you just?
Speaker 1:were you just good at this, naturally, or how did?
Speaker 3:you, you get so good. No, I had to practice a lot. I practiced for a couple hours.
Speaker 1:You practiced a couple hours like every night, every night, yeah, and sometimes you get up in the morning and even do the routine, didn't you? And do you think that helped get you to being a little bit more on excellence scale?
Speaker 3:Yes, it helped me kind of memorize it bit more on excellence scale. Yes, it helped me kind of memorize it well, but we did have to get creative and change some moves because, like there were some moves in there that weren't really the best, like one where you hug yourself. I was like why would I hug myself on stage?
Speaker 2:that was just weird so that I wish I could have seen that, but I didn't see it. But it reminds me of a statement from Bobby Knight Everybody remembers Bobby.
Speaker 3:Knight the basketball coach. I don't know who Bobby Knight was. You don't know who Bobby Knight is?
Speaker 2:Well, he was an incredible basketball coach, but he said this it's not the desire to win, it's the desire to get out and practice.
Speaker 1:Yes, the more you practice something, the better you become.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because everybody has the desire to win, but not everybody has the desire to practice and keep practicing, and keep practicing, and keep practicing.
Speaker 3:Something that someone asks, and my dad can always show you the video after he has it recorded.
Speaker 2:Yes, I would love to see that.
Speaker 3:He'll show you that after the podcast.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, fair enough. Well, do we recorded? Yes, I would love to see that. I'll show you that after the podcast. Okay, all right, fair enough well, we got.
Speaker 2:Do we have any more dad? Do you have any more dad? Jokes for our daughter, jokes for me today um dad, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Do you think you can come up with some?
Speaker 2:I've got one, but go ahead, you're first. Uh, I have one. You have one, okay, I'm ready. Two because my dad's driving one. You have two now, okay.
Speaker 3:I have two.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm ready. Which one?
Speaker 1:should I do?
Speaker 3:Yeah, the one you didn't know, oh what kind of car does a biblical leader drive?
Speaker 2:What kind of car A?
Speaker 3:Chrysler. It's very reliable and does long exodoses Exodoses.
Speaker 2:Exodoses, exodus, exodus.
Speaker 3:Okay here.
Speaker 2:I've got one for you. Let me just slide it in here. So I'm writing a book about glue, glue, but I'm stuck on the first chapter.
Speaker 3:Oh, you ready to hear mine? I am ready to hear who wants to volunteer to help me out. My dad's going to do it. Who wants to volunteer to help me out? My dad's going to do it, your dad's going to help you out.
Speaker 1:You got volunteered. I'm sort of scared. Do you really have one? Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm ready to hear it Knock knock.
Speaker 1:Who's there?
Speaker 3:The interrupting cow.
Speaker 1:The interrupting. Oh moo, you interrupted me. That's why I'm called the interrupting cow. Oh, the interrupting cow. Oh, very good, there we go. What do you have any more? Let's see. Um, I don't know if I have too many good ones.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, this one right you got one more yeah why did moses start a business?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 3:He wanted to lead people to profit, as he did on the profit side.
Speaker 2:Okay, read number 32.
Speaker 1:Read number 32.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:We just have to bring her in to be the official dad joke teller.
Speaker 3:We've got to do dad jokes. Okay, here we go. All right, go ahead. I love telling dad jokes. Sometimes he even laughs.
Speaker 1:That's pretty good. That's pretty good. So what's your last thoughts on excellence? Um, how do you become excellent? What do you? What would you give out to all the kids out there that want to become excellent in something that they really strive to be excellent in?
Speaker 3:um, all I have to say is just try and try, try again until you get it. Sometimes it'll take like weeks, maybe even months, but you can always get it. If you practice the hardest and if you really try to do it really hard, then eventually you will get it, and that's really all I have to say you have spoken, that was good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's pretty. You have spoken, that was good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1:Actually, that was good Because I mean that's what you do. I mean, if you want to be excellent in something you know, some people have natural abilities. But even those people, they can be the best, but if they practice they can even get better. You can always get better when you practice.
Speaker 3:There's always an option to be better or just stay where you are.
Speaker 2:So you have a goal that you want to do, then you practice and practice and practice Until you reach that goal. Then you evaluate whether you're doing better, and then you maybe adjust your practice a little bit, and then you just keep practicing.
Speaker 3:Sometimes, when you reach your goal, you might have another goal set up and you can do a little bit harder, practice a little bit harder on something harder than reach that goal.
Speaker 2:That would be true, like in gymnastics, right? Yes, you try something Like there's a bronze level.
Speaker 3:Where I go, there's a bronze level, a silver level, a gold level, and then you do like competitions.
Speaker 2:So you start at little and you get to that goal and you work up and you get good at that.
Speaker 3:Then you do an evaluation with the coach, and then you go up to silver, and then you practice and then do an evaluation, and then you practice and do another evaluation until you reach championship.
Speaker 2:What a great lesson.
Speaker 1:Read this quote that I have right here. Right there, see this one right here. That's the one I was going to end on today.
Speaker 3:Let me read it for you. Excellence is not a singular act, but a habit. You are what you repeatedly do.
Speaker 1:There you go. That's just his name Aristotle.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so are what you repeatedly do. There you go.
Speaker 1:That's just his name Aristotle, aristotle, yeah, so. So, basically, you know, become a habit. If you want to get something, you want to do something, you know. Work out every day, you know, and and that's when you know it's becoming a habit is when you don't have time to work out or your job doesn't allow you and you feel bad. You know you're on the right path of becoming an excellent, you know, and in excellence, because you feel bad when you miss or you go out or you have that cheat meal or whatever it might be.
Speaker 3:Yes, ma'am, I have one more joke.
Speaker 2:I saw in there that I want to tell Okay, I'm ready, I am so ready. So you have to make striving for excellence a priority.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:In your time in the whole thing, right? Yes, yeah, okay, at least I'm ready.
Speaker 3:How do corporate leaders in the Bible stay fit?
Speaker 2:How do corporate leaders in the Bible stay fit? I don't know by doing CrossFit with Moses.
Speaker 3:He always includes a lot of stretching staffs.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, we thank you for our special guest to join us. We're going to have to make you a regular addition on the show, you know, at least for summer, when we're not in school. Yeah, three months, next couple three months, well, three and a half, oh, okay. Well, that's a long time.
Speaker 2:That half is important.
Speaker 3:That half is very important.
Speaker 1:It would be important to me, actually, all right. Well, thank you for joining us here on Tuesday and, you know, thank you for hanging out with us. Elise, any parting words? Tell them to get excellent or anything.
Speaker 3:Strive. You can always strive to be better and have an excellent day.
Speaker 1:And I hope you have a great year.
Speaker 2:Awesome, and Dr Posey, check us out at BiblicalLeadershipShowcom and Dr Posey, take us out of here, make it a great day. Thank you, bye.
