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The Biblical Leadership Show
Nature's Reflections: Leadership, Diligence, and Navigating Distractions with Grace
Have you ever wondered how a wedding at the Garden of the Gods could teach you about leadership and diligence? Join us for an inspiring episode of the Biblical Leadership Show as Dr. Posey shares his heartfelt experiences officiating a wedding amidst nature's grandeur and attending a patriotic Fourth of July parade in Colorado. Through these personal stories, we delve into the essence of community, patriotism, and the importance of respecting our military. Dr. Posey's passion for visiting national parks serves as a tangible example of how careful planning and persistence can help us achieve our long-term goals, reminding us that diligence is key to turning dreams into reality.
Our discussion takes a deeper turn as we reflect on the steadfastness of Paul's faith and how recognizing our limitations can help us stay on course. Setting and reevaluating goals, embracing accountability partners, and developing new habits are some of the practical strategies we explore to maintain persistence and consistency. We also tackle the common challenge of distractions, especially screen time, and offer actionable tips to minimize wasted moments. By examining our routines and prioritizing effectively, we can ensure that our efforts align with our objectives, fostering a diligent and focused lifestyle.
In the spirit of resilience, we highlight the value of self-worth and the power of perseverance through historical figures like Abraham Lincoln. Conducting a time study can uncover hidden inefficiencies, helping us guard our hearts and actions diligently, as advised in Proverbs 4:23. Personal anecdotes about overcoming feelings of inadequacy provide encouragement for those struggling with self-criticism. To lighten the mood, we share a series of dad jokes, bringing laughter and joy to our conversation.
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Speaker 2:Hey, welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 1:We have so much fun with that.
Speaker 2:We do my goodness Love being in the studio with you, Dr P, how we doing. I'm doing really really good, Really good. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, doing pretty good too Can't complain.
Speaker 2:I mean just, had an incredible week. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:Shot some fireworks off, got all your digits on.
Speaker 2:there I was up in Colorado Springs? I Get all your digits in there. No, I was up in Colorado Springs. I was invited to do a wedding up there at the Garden of the Gods officiated wedding.
Speaker 2:So I'd never done one at the Garden of the Gods and it was amazing. It's beautiful, oh, it's absolutely stunningly beautiful, and the weather was intensely amazing. And we were in a little city of Palmer Lake, which is just northeast of Colorado Springs, and then the wedding was on Wednesday, on the 3rd of July, and then the next day we went to a 4th of July parade at the little town of Monument, which is just next to Palmer Lake. I tell you, for that small community, I want to just say a big thank you. What a phenomenal, maybe the best Fourth of July parade I've ever seen. That community honors their military, very pro-American, Every age person was that way, Just an utmost respect for those people in the military first responders, you know singing the national anthem, waving the American flag. It was truly a just humbling experience to be a part of a community that loves their country and the military so much.
Speaker 2:And it was just it lasted an hour and 45 minutes.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's pretty great.
Speaker 2:It was really really good. Now, the kids loved it because they were throwing candy all the time, of course, but it was.
Speaker 1:I mean, that used to be the best brains for me, right? Yeah, I got a bag full of candy right.
Speaker 2:So that was good. And then Friday my wife and I went to the newest national park in the United States Amanche National Park in eastern Colorado, nice, and we'll talk about that some other time. But we had a great and came back on Saturday.
Speaker 1:It was great and you're a national park person.
Speaker 2:just if the listeners don't know.
Speaker 1:Your goal is to go to all of them.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know if we'll make all of them, because there's one like in the north of the Arctic Circle in Alaska, and the only way you can get there is by plane. So I don't know if we're going to get to that one.
Speaker 1:I mean, but there's 64 national parks. Now, if we get a couple of the sponsors that we got, maybe we can sponsor a trip to the Arctic Circle right, a private jet up there, you know.
Speaker 2:I think we're in the low 50s now. I mean like 50, maybe 50 or so that we've seen Nice and there's 64. So we're trying to see as many as possible we have after this year. We'll have two left. We'll have a few in our vacations this year on our trips that we're taking, and then after that we'll just have two left in the lower 48. And so that'd be good.
Speaker 1:That's awesome yeah it's really good.
Speaker 2:It's just beautiful country. I mean, every park is unique. Every park has got its own beauty, own history. We love, you know, hiking and those kinds of things and just learning about our country and its history and the people that we meet there are just amazing. So we just enjoy traveling.
Speaker 1:That's awesome, awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so-. Ties right into the theme of the day, ties right into the theme of the day.
Speaker 1:Our theme of the day is what?
Speaker 2:Diligence.
Speaker 1:Diligence, yeah, diligence, diligence. Is this due diligence or diligence? Just diligence, just diligence. Now they tie together.
Speaker 2:If you're going, to buy some property.
Speaker 2:You want to do due diligence to make sure that the property is what they say it is and there's not any issues.
Speaker 2:But we're going to talk about diligence, so I'll just tie that into our national park adventures. So years ago, you know, when our kids were growing up, before they graduated from high school, we promised them that we would take them to all of the states before they graduated from high school. Well, at the time, when we said all the states, we thought of the continental United States, and then, as kids got older, they realized no, there's not just 48 states, there's 50. So we had to be diligent in doing that, so saving our money, planning trips a year in advance, those kind of things, and before both kids graduated from high school we had gone to all 50 states. Well, now that they're grown and on their own, we have a goal my wife and I do of seeing as many national parks as possible. So, you know, we plan our vacation around it, we save our money to do those trips and we're, you know, up in the upper 40s, maybe 50-something national parks now out of 64.
Speaker 2:And everyone has been amazing. You know some are massive and some are small, but everyone's got its own story and you know, yeah, it really is, and I think that that whole dynamic that we've been applying to visiting the United States and national parks has some great lessons for diligence.
Speaker 1:Well, you have to be diligent just to go to them, right, yeah, you have to be, and it's not cheap.
Speaker 2:I mean you know you have to save your money, you have to plan in advance. There's so many lessons you can learn just from that that you can apply to life, and so diligent is being careful and persistent in working towards a goal, but first you've got to have a goal.
Speaker 2:So I would think that Stephen Covey, a great leadership trainer for many years, begin with the end in mind. I think that is a great lesson. When talking about diligence, it's like what do we want to accomplish, Whether that's an academic goal, a music goal, an education goal, a travel goal, a financial goal, relationship goal, whatever the goal is, you need to set up a goal. Now this goes back to what we've been talking about, and we've talked about this many times your core values. You want to have a goal that matches with your core values of your life, and so, for us, it is right now. Our values are being together, you know, Diana and I, and travel. That's one of our main things that we want to do in retirement.
Speaker 2:So, but we have to be diligent, and so we're already planning. You know, we're planning for the trip that we're going to take here in a couple of weeks. We're already planning, you know, we're planning for the trip that we're going to take here in a couple weeks. We're already planning for the one in the fall, you know, and thinking about what are we going to do next year. Already thinking about it, Because on some of these places you're going, especially if it's a limited, you know availability, you've got to make your reservations, sometimes a year in advance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Not everybody can get in the parks nowadays. They limit the people to get in there.
Speaker 2:They limit the number of people to get in the parks just because there's not enough parking, there's not enough, you know, facilities to handle the thousands of people that want to come in, especially in the summer.
Speaker 1:And so, just last time, we were there last year, you know went through Yellowstone. I was sort of surprised. I didn't really even think about that, but luckily we got in. There was a place to stay in Yellowstone, which I wasn't expecting, that it was beautiful. But boy, we got lucky on that as well as hitting at the right time, yeah.
Speaker 2:And more and more people wanting to travel like that, then it makes it challenging. Sometimes you have to literally schedule a year in advance for accommodations.
Speaker 1:Not all parks have hotels or lodges in the park.
Speaker 2:Just need to get you a little RV so you can pull behind your little thing.
Speaker 1:We thought about that, and then we decided not to Just a little pop-up, pull over asleep, keep going and keep doing your thing.
Speaker 2:Or we could do this Diana will will drive and I'll take a nap and then we'll switch and I'll take a nap and she'll drive. There you go, it's working.
Speaker 1:My, my wife's idea and we were talking about this the other day my wife's idea of camping is what she can see from the hotel balcony right. Drinking coffee Ooh look desert Ooh.
Speaker 2:Look the woods, look at the pool. We can have breakfast outside.
Speaker 1:That's our idea of camping. So yeah, so back to diligence. You know vision, goal setting. You know goal setting is very important and I tie that into the corporate leadership side. You know the vision. You know, do we have to have a vision for the company? We've talked about that. You know, do our goals align with the company's mission? You know the vision and you know where are we going, because if you don't know where you're going, it's really tough to do your diligence right.
Speaker 1:I want to say due diligence, because that's my world. I do a lot of due diligence in my world. But yeah, diligence, you know, if you don't have the plan, it's tough to keep yourself accountable to actually doing some of the things.
Speaker 2:Yes, you know, as someone, why someone said if you don't have a target, you're going to hit every. You're going to hit it every time. You know so. So you have your, have your plan. It could be, I know, for businesses.
Speaker 2:Now, you know, after COVID, that just hit so many people. So difficult, it's hard. You know, we used to think, okay, what's our five and ten-year plan? Now it's like a one and maybe two-year plan, just because things can change so rapidly with either COVID, the economy, just situations. But still, what do you want the company to go in the next 18 months and two years? What do you want to do personally? It could be education. I want to get a degree. I want to get an associate degree. You know, I want to graduate from high school. I want to get another job. I want to get, you know, get a place where I can, you know, support my family and save some money for retirement. What is that goal? And then, once you have that, then what are steps that you're going to take to move toward that goal? What can you do every day? You know, put something on the calendar. I'm reading a phenomenal book right now Can't Hurt Me by David Goggins just incredible person and he has what he calls an accountability mirror.
Speaker 2:So he would take a little sticky notes, put them on his mirror in his bathroom. So he looks at it every day to say, okay, what is my goal for the day? He doesn't just have goals for the week or month, he has goals for every day.
Speaker 2:What do I want to do today? Okay, today I want to run six miles instead of five miles, or what am I going to do next week? So he's always holding himself accountable and I think that's a good thing to be diligent. Sometimes we just need other people to hold us accountable and to encourage us, because life can be difficult.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you do the sticky notes thing, that's one of those things we do for salespeople, we do for accountability and corporate leaders. Put it on your mirror where you brush your teeth. Put it on your mirror of your car when you're driving that you look up and see it and then put it on your desk.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're supposed to look at your mirror while you're driving. Yeah, I know right, oh wow, yeah.
Speaker 1:so I mean, if you've got a big yellow sticky note up out of there, it tends to stand out to you. But yeah, that's one of the things you can do. So maybe biblical do we have any diligence in the Bible anywhere?
Speaker 2:Well, the first, when we were thinking about this. When I was thinking about this the other day, knowing that we were going to talk about this, it reminded me of a passage that some people might be familiar with, and it's in 2 Corinthians, chapter 12 in the New Testament, where Paul had a thorn in the flesh Right, and we don't know exactly what that is. A lot of scholars think it was his eyesight, other scholars think it was something else and it said that he prayed about it and petitioned God three times to take away this thorn in his flesh. Now, knowing Paul and what we know about him phenomenal person, obviously influenced Christianity, for, you know, thousands of years after his life and for him to say I petitioned the Lord three times. He didn't just say God, could you do this? He probably fasted, prayed. You know he was very. We'll talk about meditation next week.
Speaker 1:I was just very. I was setting it up. I was like we're going to talk about that next week. I bet you. He meditated yes he did.
Speaker 2:But the thing about it is God didn't take that away. And so, because he didn't take it away, paul didn't give up. He just changed his prayer. He said, okay, if this is going to be one of my weaknesses, then God, help me in my weakness, help even in my weakness to glorify you. And so, even if he met some challenges that he personally could not overcome, that he didn't give up. He was still diligent in his faith, he was still persistent.
Speaker 1:Perseverance. Perseverance, yes, that would be the word I was looking for.
Speaker 2:He was, and he just continued to do the work that God had called him to do, even though he had what some people might call a handicap or a weakness in his life. All of us have weaknesses. The question is are we going to allow our weaknesses to steer the ship?
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Okay, and Paul said, no, I'm not going to do that. It's a weakness, I Right, okay, and Paul said, no, I'm not going to do that. It's a weakness, I acknowledge it, but I'm still going to focus on what God has me to do, and that is to proclaim the gospel to as many people as possible before I take my last breath. And so he was very determined, he was very diligent, he was very focused, he was very committed to the goal, and so I think, when we get to diligence, it's like how committed are we to our goal?
Speaker 2:Now, sometimes we get, we say we, you know, state a goal and we're working toward the goal, and you know, but we dig ourself in a hole financially or spiritually, or you know, you know relationally, and we have to say you know, maybe I need to change my goal because what I'm doing now is damaging my life, so maybe it's time to be diligent and not be less diligent, but maybe think about a different goal, and so we just have to be focused. I think that's one reason why it's important, when we're focused on that, to have good friends, good accountability partners, people that can encourage us, we can reflect on, we can think about it, they can help us process that and we can say, okay, is this goal still worth it, because everybody's got to sacrifice to reach it, to reach some type of goal.
Speaker 1:I think you need accountability. I think you said it just right If you don't look at goals, a lot of people and they make the mistake of goals and they look at it. They set it the first year and they don't even look at it until next New Year's Eve where they're resetting goals.
Speaker 1:If you want to get good about this is once a month, sit down with accountability partner, go over it. Now it has to. And I tell, and I'm I'm a very self-driven person, right? So I don't need that, this and that and that recognition. I don't bounce ideas off other people. I make decisions myself, move forward, that's family, every. I mean I just I run businesses myself, right? I don't have this big support staff where I'm bouncing all this stuff.
Speaker 1:But that's one thing that I do is, when it comes to goals, I always will have an accountability partner, because I think that's one of the big things that you can do to be successful in goal setting is that I can look at the goals, I can remodify those goals. But but a lot of times they're going to ask different questions because we have different things in our head when we're goal setting, where you know that, even though I'm self-driven, you know working out and all this stuff and business. But they might ask me one question they might maybe not have thought about on the goal setting Maybe it's a whole different avenue, another business idea, something I can do to double my sales that maybe I didn't think of.
Speaker 2:And so one of the things you might not need and diligence. You might not need to change the goal. You might need to change the path of how you're going to do it. You might think, oh, and I think that's one reason what you just said was so excellent is that accountability to partners, partners, friends, an encouragement group whatever you want to call it support group can help. You think you know what. This is not working the way you want it. It's a worthy goal, but maybe you need to do it this way instead of the way you're doing, because the way you're doing is just causing you so much stress and anxiety and worry and it's fatiguing your body and you're getting sick. So maybe you need to think about reaching that goal in a different way. Maybe you need to take longer, maybe you need to look at other alternatives and still reach your goal, whatever that might be.
Speaker 1:And one of the things that was on my list of things that ties into goal setting, that ties into diligence, is consistency, Consistency in actions. I think that's one of the biggest things that we can do is be consistent, and it's sort of like your reference of David there. If you look at it every day, you know 30 seconds a day for 30 days creates a new habit, you know, and there's a little. Some people say 20 days and all that, but 30 seconds a day for 30 days. We'll just keep it simple on some of the things out there, but create a new habit and you have to be consistent if you want to do it.
Speaker 1:I saw, you know, and we've talked about it before, the the number one day that people canceled their gym memberships, February 1st. I mean, after 30 days, they've gave up, they're like done, I'm not going to get in shape, I'm not going to do this. And, as you know, as a triathlete I can say that. And me, as a non triathlete, I go to the gym every day, but I'm not a triathlete, nor do I want to be, but I mean that's one of the things that's consistent. I mean, think of how much I've watched you and your journey over the last year Just get better. You know, and through advice, through swimming, through this you know you've identified your weaknesses and figure out how to get the help to be consistent in your actions and to follow through and set things and be consistent, and I think it's helped you come a long ways.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so my weakness in triathlon is swimming biking and running and eating.
Speaker 1:Those are my weaknesses. I could overcome those. I do a lot better. Hey, let's talk about one of the things that keep us from being tilted, See I just need one for walking riding my motorcycle and what would be the Sitting in the recliner and riding in my boat right. So you know, if I can do three of those things motorcycle, boating and walking I am great at it. That's a whole new thing. We need to work on that.
Speaker 2:A new type of triathlon. A new type.
Speaker 1:We could do paddle boat.
Speaker 2:We could do. You know, sail boating, sail boat Walking backwards. I'm going to work on this.
Speaker 1:I think I could have more people sign up for my triathlons than you guys bring in for yours, probably so.
Speaker 2:It will spread across the globe in a matter of minutes.
Speaker 1:The common man, triathlon. Yes, the common man triathlon Got to come up with a name for that, yeah, I'm going to come up with it.
Speaker 2:Oh, all right. Well, let's talk about some of the things that keep us from being diligent okay, yes. And I would say maybe the number one thing that I've noticed in my life, number one thing that I've noticed in my life, is distractions, especially cell phone stuff. It's so easy, it's so easy to just pick up a phone, cell phones.
Speaker 1:Scroll through your news feed. They're not a distraction, are they?
Speaker 2:Oh, they can be. So you can spend so much time on screen time that you know you've got 30, 45 minutes just gone just like that, and so that keeps you from maybe doing what you wanted to do, whatever that is you know, and so it's not that it's a bad thing. The question is, how big a priority is screen time for you? So do you have a certain time that you do screen time? Do you check your email every 20 minutes? Do you check?
Speaker 1:your news feed Every couple days. Lately, it seems like.
Speaker 2:And so I think one of the things that If we want to be diligent, we need to be honest with ourself. What is keeping us from being diligent? What is keeping us from how do I spend my time? I used to do time studies and calendaring and doing all this stuff so I could keep track of every 15 minutes of my day. I know some of those of our listeners who bill by every 15 minutes. You know CPAs, attorneys, those kind of things. They have to do that.
Speaker 2:Well, that's not a bad thing to do, it's just that. Are we honest with ourself on our screen time? Or maybe there's other distractions? Maybe we take a two-hour lunch when we really could take a 45-minute lunch. Maybe we just take our time going to work, or minute lunch, maybe we just take our time going to work, or you know those kinds of things. And so evaluating ourself, trying to make the most of our time is, I think, one of the keys to being diligent, because I think everybody, or most everybody, can squeeze a few extra minutes out of the day because we're wasting our time doing something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you mentioned the time study. That's usually what. If I'm doing coaching a client or something, I have a minimum 48 hours where they have to keep track of every little thing, every little Facebook thing, for one minute, every going to the bathroom, it doesn't matter, it has to be on there and you put it on this time sheet and keep track of at least 48 hours. I'd love for you to do it seven days it time sheet and keep track of at least 48 hours.
Speaker 1:I'd love for you to do it seven days, it's pretty tedious actually if you do a true blue one on this. You know, because you know you got to put 30 seconds for email. I spent two minutes on Facebook. I checked Instagram, I went to LinkedIn see if I had any messages, and it's very tedious. That's why I usually do 48 hours.
Speaker 1:But you're going to find that you waste a lot of time. There's a lot of time wasted, that a lot of times we make excuse. Well, we don't have the time to do it and we're busy. And sometimes it's just the busyness epidemic. We call it so the busyness with a Y. You know, b-u-s-y busyness, like I'm always busy, I'm always busy. I say that a lot but I'm actually really busy. But a lot of times people are busy but there's so much time in their day where they're not working, they're doing other stuff, and then they've done other stuff so much that it makes them busy, overwhelmed, where they're staying late at night and doing things. And that's one of the things you have to look at and do diligence. And diligence is, you know, are you doing things to be consistent? Are you going to work hard towards your goal or are you going to make excuses why you didn't achieve them?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So let's get back to the Bible. Just want to throw in. We're going to throw in a Bible, then we're going to focus on some dad jokes because we haven't had one yet, and we're three-quarters of the way into the podcast.
Speaker 2:So Proverbs 4, verse 23 in the Old Testament says that we should guard our heart with all diligence, because from out of the heart flows the issues of life. So that scripture implies that whatever we allow to enter into our heart, if not examined and evaluated properly, will be expressed in our lives, in our actions, either positive or negative ways. And so, you know, part of the thing that might be for some people is we might not think we're worth it because we have been told that we're not worth it, that you know we might not be wanted, that we wish you, that someone wished we weren't born. So we criticize ourself, we condemn ourself, we're our worst enemy, and so we just don't think any goal is worth it in our life because we're not worth it. And so I'd say, if that's your struggle, I understand that because I was there when I was growing up and what helped me get through that was, first of all, an amazing wife, an amazing relationship with Jesus Christ who died because I was worth it for him.
Speaker 2:And just working on that, you know personal counseling, you know just a lot of meditating. We'll talk about that next week, but it took a while to, you know, to get over that feeling of inadequacy and you know and not feeling good about myself. So I would encourage people if that's something that you're struggling with, reach out to us on our website, biblicalleadershipshowcom. I would love to have a conversation with you because I know exactly what that feels like, at least for me, and I'd love to help anybody who's going through that to come out on a good end of that instead of a bad end of that, and I know that there are solutions for that. I know that you can get over that. I know that you can turn that kind of thinking around and start feeling that you are worth it and other people.
Speaker 2:Once you start feeling that way, you're going to be a blessing to other people as well. You're going to be a blessing to other people as well. And so the thing about it is being diligent in whatever field that you're trying to be diligent, whatever goal it is, it's always more enjoyable if somehow your goal is a blessing to other people. So, yes, I want to get an education because I want to be a nurse to help people in the hospital who are sick. You know I want to get my teaching certificate and be a counselor at the school so I can help those troubled kids. You know that was like me when I was growing up. You know I want to do this. Get my electrician's license so I can help people who don't have a whole lot of money. Build a house, you know I mean. So if you think about it from not just what's going to what are you going to gain, but how are you going to be a blessing to others it really does add some motivation to that mix.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know, every time we talk about setbacks and everything, and I was pulling up and I talk about it, I've mentioned it a couple of times for the people on the show talking about Abraham Lincoln all the stuff that he went through, and I pulled it up real fast just over the course of from 1830 to 1860. So a course of 30 years, right, you know, in his life he lost his job and I'm just going to read some of these, cause I, I, I, I love referencing this in some of my seminars.
Speaker 1:He lost his job and then he was defeated for state legislature. He failed in his business Uh. His fiance died, uh. He surf suffered a nervous breakdown. He was defeated for speaker uh. In the Illinois house representative. He was defeated for his in the Illinois House representative. He was defeated for his nomination of Congress. Then he was elected in Congress and this was, you know. 13 years later he finally got elected to Congress, but then two years later he lost that re-nomination and then he was rejected for the land office position. Then he was defeated for Senate. Then he was defeated for vice president.
Speaker 1:Then he was defeated again for Senate and then eventually he got to um you know, president in 1861, the 16th president, and you just look at that and anytime that you say you know things are bad, I don't even know. I mean I'm, I've fought through a lot of things in my life, but man know, I mean I'm, I've fought through a lot of things in my life, but man, that's a, that's a resume of that's, that's grit I call that grit and diligence and getting that resilience.
Speaker 1:You know, grit, one of the things get resilience and get resilient in tough times is one of the keynotes I do and it's that. That's that's the definition of doing your diligence and your resilience and all that stuff and setting goals and then knowing what you want in life. And I mean, he could have went down and started new companies, but he kept going for government, government, government and he kept getting defeated and defeated. And then, lo and behold, he made it in there and look at the impact he had.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's amazing.
Speaker 1:And it's just a great, great story there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so a modern one that I was just referencing, you know earlier, was David Goggins, and the book Can't Hurt Me.
Speaker 2:The guy grew up. Just a horrible childhood, I mean, it was just horrible. And then along the way, I mean he didn't feel good about himself at all, but along the way he had a desire to become a Navy SEAL and I won't talk the story about, I encourage you to read the book. But he finally made it after his third attempt. And just incredible individual ultra marathon runner, triathlete. I mean mean the guy is just an incredible individual, um, but there was so much defeat in his early life that you would think that he never was thinking he was worth it to do that. And but he did. And he a lot of help, a lot of encouragement and he made it. He made it.
Speaker 1:He made it so, yeah, so and it's you know. Hats off to you know, hats off to people like that, oh, yes. I think it's an amazing thing, yeah.
Speaker 2:We have more potential than we realize, but sometimes we just need other people to help draw that out in us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so there you go. Yeah, wife and I were talking about, you know, um, just generations. What the the impact that you have? And she was, she had her, her mom had came in town this weekend and brought her something on her great grandma and and you know, grandparents and stuff, and and you know, you really think about it it's it's two generations that you don't really remember the generations past that a lot of times.
Speaker 1:And you know, even it's tough. You know it's like. You know I know stories of my great-grandma, but I've only got like three or four grandparents. Really there's only three or four that I really know that are stories, but would I pass those down to my kids, I guess, but I mean they're not going to have any reference to that. You know down to my kids, I guess, but I mean they're not going to have any reference to that. You know, and it's just really you've got to make an impact in the world. If you want to, you know, continue on. I mean we're here for a short time and it's all about what you do.
Speaker 2:That's exactly right, and now you can be a blessing to others.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:So let's just shift gears for just a few minutes.
Speaker 1:Shift gears.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's shift gears. And just I have a whole pile of dad jokes.
Speaker 1:We could spend two weeks. You came prepared, man, I came so prepared. He came printed out with this list and he's like look at all these new ones in here. I've got so many dad jokes, but I'll just throw in at least 20 of them okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, so Weecus came from Colorado Springs. You know a beautiful country up there. So what do you call a pile of cats? What do you call a pile of cats?
Speaker 1:I'm going to refrain and not answer. No, I do not know A meowton A meowton, nice, nice, the only one I got. Really I sort of liked why the diligent gardener plant light bulbs. I don't know because he wanted to grow a bright future oh my, worse than yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, okay, so why?
Speaker 1:do I try to do like topic ones and they're horrible when they do topic ones right so mine have nothing to do with the topic of the week.
Speaker 2:They do not Okay. So why do cows wear bells?
Speaker 1:Cow bells. Because, their horns don't work. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. I like that one one, my kid would probably like that one.
Speaker 2:So okay, how do you make an egg roll? Push it you push it there you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's good, I'm good, so all right. All right, what's one more?
Speaker 2:I got one more, one more I know it's, I know it's the middle of summer, but there is such thing as polar bears, even this summer. So where do polar bears keep their money?
Speaker 1:In a snow bank, nice, I was going to go with that one, but I was thinking if there was any other ones? So all right, I like it you like it, I do, we're good.
Speaker 2:Oh, I have one more. I have one more. I just got to fill this one in because I think it's so good.
Speaker 1:That's what people out there are like, really they're going really.
Speaker 2:I cut you off a minute ago. No go ahead what's red and bad for your teeth.
Speaker 1:Red and bad for your teeth? I do not know.
Speaker 2:A brick.
Speaker 1:Oh, I got him laughing. You got me on that one. Oh, my goodness I like that one.
Speaker 2:Maybe we should just stop. Is it wrong that I like that?
Speaker 1:one that would just fit my sense of humor there, so I'll let that go. All right, guys, thank you for joining us today. You know, next week we're going to be talking about meditation a little bit, so join in on that one. That's going to be a good one for me because, I told you, I'm working hard on getting back in the meditation wagon again and doing more meditation, so I'm excited about that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm excited about talking about it too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so check'm excited about that one. Yeah, I'm excited about talking about it too. Yeah, so check us out biblicalleadershipshowcom. Let us know if there are any topics you want to do, Any good books? We're going to start doing some book series coming up here pretty soon. If you've got any good books you would like us to maybe talk about every week, I'm just wondering if there's any good books. Anyway, so check us out Biblical Leadership Show and Dr Posey, take us out with. Hey, make it a great day. Make it a great day. Thank you, guys.
