The Biblical Leadership Show
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Building Authenticity: Lessons in Fidelity from Home to Heart
Kick off your shoes and get ready to laugh before we dive deep into the essence of fidelity. We start with a refreshing round of dad jokes, ensuring some laughs and groans with puns about "depresso" coffee and "mistletoes" for elves. Then, we journey into the heart of fidelity, tracing its roots to the Latin word "fides," meaning faith. From the lens of Dr. Dean's pastoral experience, he sheds light on the beauty and challenges of staying true in marital and spiritual relationships. Tune in for a blend of humor and heartfelt insights on what it means to be truly faithful.
Next, we shift gears to the professional world, dissecting the importance of fidelity in honoring one’s vision in creative and business endeavors. Using custom home builders as a prime example, we delve into the balance between offering expert advice and respecting personal tastes. Authenticity and integrity are paramount in creating spaces that reflect the true desires of their inhabitants. Join us as we explore how staying true to core values shapes our actions and decisions, both in personal life and the professional sphere.
To wrap up, we emphasize the importance of fidelity, integrity, and accountability across all areas of life. Drawing from biblical teachings and corporate ethics, we argue that loyalty to one's team and mission is crucial. We also discuss ethical decision-making, service orientation, resilience, and mutual support as essential qualities in leadership. By looking at inspiring figures like Jesus, Michael Jordan, and Abraham Lincoln, we underline the significance of steadfastness and support from others. As we close with another round of dad jokes, we remind you to embody these principles daily and check out our website for more enriching content.
Welcome, welcome, welcome to another acceptable episode of the Biblical Leadership.
Speaker 2:Show. Are you just setting the tone early, right?
Speaker 1:I guess, so you know.
Speaker 2:Those dad jokes we were talking about before we started. It just threw me all off, right.
Speaker 1:Yes, we got some big groaners today.
Speaker 2:We have some serious groaners.
Speaker 1:He just broke out a new page of 20-some dad jokes on it. So we're good on the dad jokes, tim Lansford, and with me is Dr Dean Posey. Biblical Leadership Show is who we are and what we do is talk a little bit about the biblical talk, a little bit about the leadership, and then we I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, I'm not sorry, I'm sorry, but we throw dad jokes in there just because you know we decided we were going to do that just to have fun, Make us smile. If nothing else, you guys might moan and groan. To do that just to have fun, Make us smile, if nothing else.
Speaker 2:You guys might moan and groan, but at least we have fun with it. Well, let's just start groaning right away. Oh, you're going to make it. I'm going to just throw it in. Here we go.
Speaker 1:He's in one of those moods today guys, I think it's a good mood. I contained him a little bit last week, but this week no I.
Speaker 2:I can already tell when we get into this, he's out of the gate going. All right, what you got over there, okay. So what do you call a sad cup of coffee?
Speaker 1:Hmm, there's no such thing, is there?
Speaker 2:Well, you call it depresso. All right Okay so you know a lot of outdoor activities going on this time of year, right? I guess if you're in a certain state of mind, you can have outdoor activities all year long.
Speaker 1:but a lot of outdoor activities and so if athletes get athlete's foot, what do elves get? Christmas rash? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Mistletoes.
Speaker 1:I told you we have some groaners today?
Speaker 2:Yes, wow.
Speaker 1:All right, well, on that, we can let everybody know that. Thank you for coming, we appreciate you being here.
Speaker 2:I hope you haven't turned us off already. That's a record Three minutes.
Speaker 1:Three minutes. We're just going to cut the show off right there. That's what we should do these days, just to see if we get any response back from people. Instead of doing this, we'll just do a three-minute show and post it up and see if anybody says.
Speaker 2:Hey, where's the rest of your show? That was really good. Too bad you didn't preach that short when you were preaching.
Speaker 1:That's great, all right. So this thing, I know you're looking at that list of sheets over there. Man, I'm telling you, I know him really well. He is in that mood. You're going to hear him throughout the course of this whole day because he's just focused on that sheet. He's got all this show prep over to the right, all these notes, and all he's doing is looking left in the dad joke pile right. So I'm like he's only looking at the dad joke, not any of the show prep.
Speaker 2:Well, the dad jokes are my show prep for today. Okay, here's one last one before Topic of the day fidelity.
Speaker 1:Fidelity Great great topic You're loyal to those dad jokes.
Speaker 2:Yes, I am.
Speaker 1:Okay, so how do rabbits travel? Do not know Hairplanes.
Speaker 2:Too bad, I can't reach the button.
Speaker 1:There you go, I'll throw it out for you.
Speaker 2:Let's just stop right there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I mean we should just do it. I only have about 50 more. Yeah, we should just do a whole day of dad jokes, maybe on our first anniversary.
Speaker 2:Maybe that's it yeah we should just do that. First anniversary coming up, I mean we're close.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean we're close. Yeah, I mean maybe 10 more shows.
Speaker 2:We'll have an anniversary of. Maybe that would be a great day to do that. There you go we could just have some pizza and do dad jokes and pizza, just talk and just randomness about everything. What else I mean? Don't we always do that? Yeah, pretty much, I mean that's what we do, that's because we can.
Speaker 1:That's what we can Exactly right, and people still listen to us. That's the craziest thing and our audience is growing. It is growing. Maybe one a week, but it's growing, you know it is.
Speaker 2:It's good, I like it, it's growing. I enjoy being here in the studio with you every week.
Speaker 1:We're having fun. We're having fun. So fidelity, what instantly our brain goes to?
Speaker 2:Marriage fidelity. Marriage fidelity it's a big one or fidelity to God.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or fidelity to God. But I'm sure you know being a pastor for you know 40 years I'm sure that you've ran into a few marital blisses that maybe have come up in counseling that you've had to do over the years.
Speaker 2:Quite a few, too many to number.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can imagine Tragically. So yes, I can imagine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's something that, unfortunately, people struggle with.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Making a covenant of marriage. But there's so many different types of fidelity so we'll get to those. But let's just talk about kind of a big umbrella topic. What is fidelity mean? Well, it actually comes from a Latin word.
Speaker 1:I didn't take Latin so I don't know how to. I told you I got 15 minutes of Latin. 15 minutes of Latin, 30 minutes of Latin. Okay, wow, I am just. I didn't even see the word. I could have tried to pronounce it F-I-D-E-S. I'm good you can do it. I have no idea how to pronounce it.
Speaker 2:F-I-D-E-S, which means faith. So fidelity really has its root in a state of being faithful. Obviously, marital fidelity is being faithful to your spouse. Fidelity to God, being faithful to God. There's different types of fidelity. We'll talk about that in just a minute, but it's loyalty, devotion, faithfulness, trustworthiness, being dependable, integrity, honest. A lot of those words are summed up in the word fidelity.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So let's just, you had a list before we went on the air here about different categories of faithfulness, and we'll talk about fidelity to God and fidelity to our spouse here in just a minute, but just kind of give us some other categories of fidelity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not a problem. Here's some of the different things that came up on fidelity in my show prep. Marital was the number one that sort of came up. Sort of the number two came up is religious or spiritual, sort of what we sort of talked about, number one and number two. There A couple others that came up professional fidelity, commitment to professional ethics, responsibilities.
Speaker 1:Intellectual fidelity, staying true to one's principles, ideas. Corporate fidelity, dedication to the organization, its missions and its values. Creative fidelity, staying true to one's artistic vision, style. I think that's a huge one. You know a lot of people sway or they get told, you know, to go a different path. Technological fidelity and leadership, cultural and fidelity and friendship. A lot of times we get swayed, you know. Trustworthiness and those relationships, keeping those honest relationships with friends, that's a huge one. So there's a lot of different fidelities and, like I say, our brain usually goes to one of the two right Fidelity and marriage, fidelity and religion a lot of times. But just so you know, there are a lot of different things and for me one of the biggest ones I told you stands out is that creative and artistic.
Speaker 1:I love it when somebody takes their own path and we do this in the speaker world. We do this in the building world, where you build a house and it has your visions and people are like, wow, why would you do that? Why would you put that there? Why would you use that kind of lighting? And people love that. There's a buyer for every house that's being built, because everybody likes different things and it's the same with every picture. I showed a picture of my wife how this lady takes scrap pieces of woods and creates all these little big artworks that go on there. And I've seen in some of our associations as I traveled around the country, and builder associations have taken scrap woods and created these pictures. I think they're really cool. But you know, I asked my wife on it and she's like, yeah, it's cool, but not going in our house.
Speaker 2:Not going in our house.
Speaker 1:No, because it didn't fit our.
Speaker 2:But just think about your career as a custom home builder, and you've been doing that for like 30 years now.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So you've built hundreds of homes over the you know in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. And so you're talking to a prospective client and they have a vision for what they want their home to be. It could be on a single lot, it could be on a one-acre lot, five-acre lot, whatever it is, it could be a one-story, it could be a two-story, it could be 2,000 square feet, it could be 5,000 square feet, whatever it is, they have this vision and so they share that with you, the architect. They draw up the plans and they're expecting you to follow the plan so that what you talked about will actually show up in reality.
Speaker 2:And if you just decided, nah, I'm going to do my own thing, I'm going to build it differently, I'm going to make this bathroom a little different, or I'm going to make this room smaller or bigger, or I'm going to build it differently, I'm going to make this bathroom a little different, or I'm going to make this room smaller or bigger, or I'm going to make the garage two car instead of three car or one car, then you're not being loyal or faithful or being, you know, practicing fidelity to the person who's the prospective buyer, no-transcript. And so the question is, I think, like we talked about before we started on the show was so many things come back to core values. What are our core values? Words, but our actions. Just like you build in a home, you're going to be faithful and true and honest to the person who is your client so that you build a home that the highest possible standards of quality and doing what was on the paper from the architect is actually what they get in as a home.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, and you know, one of the things that we do is we take a client's vision and we design it you know, and that's one of the biggest things we can do.
Speaker 1:And, like you said, if I started interjecting some of my thoughts, you know, and my past histories, I mean I always tell people because people ask me all the time what's your opinion? I'm like I have no problem giving my opinion, but again, my style is probably different than your style. I don't have to live in the house. I'm not going to do it. I'm building it to you so I can give you my opinion if you want it. But really it doesn't matter so much of what I think it's, it's what you need to do. What's true to you? You know and I get this from the real estate company Uh, when we're going to list somebody's house, they're like you know, I've always heard we need to take all these pictures off the walls and and you know all the personal and all this stuff and and I'm like you know what, we don't know how long this house is going to. You know, take the cell. I said live in your house. You know people aren't going to look at that. People aren't going to look at, uh, you know, this little thing that needs to be repaired or this little thing. It's all going to come out, they're going to make this home theirs when they move in, and that's what 90% of everybody does, is they? They, they change that home, make it, make it theirs, theirs and, you know, be true to yourself. And that's why I think that's why the artistic, you know, really stood out of all the things there. Just because I see people sort of do things and then they regret.
Speaker 1:There's been many a house that I built for people that within a year I know that we're going to come back and probably rip that out and redo it, just because they didn't do that, because somebody swayed their thing. You know, I had this one client I'll never forget Redid the whole bathroom, all the countertops, everything. This is a very, very expensive house. And one of her friends walks in and says oh my gosh, this marble is hideous, right, and instantly she's like rip it all out and redo it. But I'm like you were in love with this. But one person came in and said it was hideous and now it's being ripped out. I'm like I've shut the door and never let anybody else see my bathroom and I would be happy walking in there every day of my life, knowing this is what I want.
Speaker 2:Correct, and so you were faithful to the owner. You did what they asked you to do and now you make my suggestions because of your experience. Do I have two light switches in this room? Do I have three? Do I have one? You might put this this way because it's going to be easier when you walk in the bathroom or you walk in the front door. You might not want this right there, you might not want the stairways within five feet of your front door. Let's move it over to the right or left a little bit, so you might make suggestions about just because of your experience. But you're not going to redraw the house for them, okay, and you're going to give them.
Speaker 2:And I think let's talk about religious fidelity and marital fidelity. So, for me, when you get married, at whatever age, you're making a covenant, and in my understanding, this is my definition a covenant is an agreement. It's not a contract. It's an agreement between two people made during a moment of strength so that during a moment of weakness it will not be unbound. So you're making a covenant during that moment, you know, before God and other people. I mean, I just did a wedding, you know, two weeks, three weeks ago, out in the Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs, so it wasn't in a church. I've done weddings in people's houses, in backyards in the church, obviously in the roast garden in Fort Worth. It's just a matter of the location, is not the issue? The question is are you making a covenant?
Speaker 1:Biblical leadership show If you need somebody to marry.
Speaker 2:I've actually got a couple under my belt as well, so just call us, but it's making a covenant and you're promising to be faithful to the covenant that you made.
Speaker 1:I think that's great, and I've never heard it put that way. You know you're married in a moment of strength. That way, you can be strong in the moment of weakness. However you said that, correct, yeah, so in the moment of weakness. However you say it, correct, yeah, so during the moment of weakness it will not be unbounded.
Speaker 2:And so that to me, just think of the economy. If your business right now is suffering because of whatever it could be, whatever sales are bad, you know you lost a person on your staff that was like your high producer, that got hired by your you know competitor, you know, whatever the reason, the question is are you still going to be faithful to the people that work for you? Are you going to get together with your team and say, okay, we got to work together to make this work? Now, last week we talked about innovation. So it's like we're going to be innovative, we've got to be innovative, but we're going to be faithful and true to our team. We're going to be honest about our situation. We're not going to hide anything under the bushel. You know we're going to be upfront and honest about the reality of our situation.
Speaker 2:Reality of our situation, and so to me, that is fidelity in business. You want to be honest and upfront with the people. So the same principles applies to a marriage. Same principles applies with our relationship with God. God is always faithful. We might not think so at some times, because we sometimes have the wrong impression that if we believe in God, that nothing bad's going to happen to us. That is never in the Bible, as things happen in life sad things happen in life, unfortunately. But God is faithful in the midst of all of that. And the question is are we going to be faithful to God no matter what the circumstances are in our life?
Speaker 1:Right, you know. So you know, one of the biggest things in fidelity that we get and you said is to the clients right, you know. But at the same time, it's one of the things I talk about is infidelity is you know the mission and the values of the company are you representing, are you projecting? Um, uh, so that's a good one from the uh, the, the uh, corporate side. Um, you know, and a lot of the research I came up with on the fidelity and the biblical um has to do a lot with the loyalty, as you said, to God, his teachings and the responsibility that he's gave you to be the leader, to step up, to be able to accomplish these things.
Speaker 2:Correct. And so let's just think about the Ten Commandments for a minute, okay, and there's obviously ten. The first four have to do our relationship with God. The second six, the last six, have to do with our relationship with other people. Very first commandment they shall have no other gods before me.
Speaker 2:So sometimes in life not just in business but in life we substitute the God of money for the God of creation and we worship the God of money for the God of creation and we worship the God of money and we're loyal to that God. Okay, we do everything to please that God or have more money at the expense of our relationship with God, the Creator. And so we have to be careful in how we—and that doesn't mean you have to be rich to do that. I've experienced people that are making minimum wage, that is still. Their goal is to. I mean, the whole life focuses around money.
Speaker 2:I quit a job when I was in seminary. I didn't need to quit a I mean. I needed to quit the job because the boss was cheating us out of our paycheck. But his God was money and he had a vow to be a millionaire before he was 30. He probably made it. I wasn't around to see that happen. But that was his goal and his employees suffered because of it, I quit because of it, and so it's like, okay, he was loyal to that ideal and not to the God of creation. So we have to examine our own life and say, okay, where do our ultimate loyalties lie? Okay, we're going to live out our fidelity not just with our words, but with our actions. In what areas of life are we going to do that? And hopefully all areas of our life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the word that comes to my mind is integrity you know, Integrity.
Speaker 1:You know what are you going to do with integrity. Are you going to be the person that's honest and upright and be able to do that? But I mean, that's one of the values that I think everybody needs to have. We've talked about it before. You know it's. Are you living at the top of the integrity list, the bottom, or are you bouncing around this gray area where you say one thing, what's not really true, but it's not really wrong either? You know so there's lots of different avenues you can be at.
Speaker 2:And so many things and we just talked about this before the show is so many things that we've talked about in our almost our year of being on. The podcast comes back to the basic issue of core values. What are our core? And that's why it's so important to have core values, and hopefully one of them would be something like fidelity or honesty or trustworthiness. They're all under that same umbrella, but the question is are we going to live that out in our daily life, in our business, in our personal life, in our church life? Maybe we're coaching a little league baseball team or a girls softball team, or you know, what are we going to have, you know? Or can we be trustworthy and honest in and can people count on us in our daily living?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the next word that sort of crosses both the lines of biblical and leadership is accountability. You know what? What? What are you doing with accountability? I always tell people, if you can't hold somebody accountable, then there's not going to be any change, there's not going to be any consequences to move them forward. And I think that can cross both sides of the leadership and the biblical.
Speaker 2:I agree totally, and so the question is how are we allowing ourself to be held accountable? Are we actually living out with our actions what we say with our words? And so one of the notes I have here on the show prep is are we living with fidelity? Do we do this always, or only when it's convenient? And you know, when the weather's good we're going to exercise. When it's a little, you know, a little, no, we're not going to exercise, we're just going to stay on the couch and veg out, and so, but do we live what we say we are? Can people tell from our behavior, not just our words? Can they tell from our behavior that we're a person of honesty and integrity?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's where we're trying to go. So let's talk about the biblical. We talked a lot about the leadership. What are some people that consider biblical examples that really express that of fidelity?
Speaker 2:So obviously any of the big names of the Bible, I know they're in the Bible because they were faithful to God.
Speaker 2:You know some of those big names but some of the maybe the lesser ones that we might not think of right off the top of my head. I just think of Queen Esther right off the top of my head, because she was in extreme situation that she could have just said nothing, she could have just not stand up for her people, but she did and it literally changed world history. And so you think about the people that were faithful, you think of the Abrahams and the Moses and the Noahs and the Davids, but think about— Nehemiah Paul Ruth.
Speaker 1:Yes, all of those, yes, but think about Nehemiah Paul.
Speaker 2:Ruth. Yes, all of those yes, but think about the prophets, and not all the prophets are listed. Not all the prophets have a book in the Old Testament. There are some prophets that were there that don't have a book. They might have written stuff, but it's not recorded or it's not in the actual canon. But think of those people, especially Isaiah, jeremiah, ezekiel. They suffered extreme consequences because they stood up for their faith.
Speaker 2:My wife and I are watching the Chosen, the fourth season of the Chosen, and if you haven't watched that, I encourage you. A phenomenal representation of the life of Jesus and his disciples. And so we're watching season four now, and the one we watched literally last night and the last couple nights was a story about John the Baptist and how he stood up for his faith and it cost him his life. Well, you look at every one of the 12 disciples, and let's don't talk about Judas, but let's talk about all the other ones. Every single one of them were martyred for their faith, except for one lived to old age, and that would have been John and so, but every single one of them were faithful to God to the very end and it cost them their life.
Speaker 2:And so we might not be asked to give our physical life for that, but we might have to put our reputation on the line. We might have to stand up for the truth of the Word of God. So the question is are we going to do that, even though it might not be popular, convenient, we might look down upon? But are we going to live out our faith to the best of our ability, no matter what the circumstances around us are?
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. Now coming down here towards we still got about 10 minutes of our show and everything.
Speaker 2:So that's about 20 dad jokes. Yeah, it's about 20 dad jokes.
Speaker 1:But I'm going to have a little bit more filler because I know if I turn over now I know by guys we're going to lose people on the dad jokes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're going to just check the internet and say, well, you know what About 25 minutes? Our audience cut in half I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1:They were checking out. No, I wanted to talk about this last little section that I put down, and what I call it is integrating biblical fidelity into modern leadership, and I want to talk. There's four qualities here that I sort of put and I want to discuss one at a time. Ethical decision making Modern leaders can take inspiration from biblical leaders by prioritizing ethical decisions that reflect integrity and honesty.
Speaker 2:Correct.
Speaker 1:Well, look at this.
Speaker 2:Just think about this Every leader, whether a church leader, a business leader, a family leader, it doesn't matter they're going to be having to make decisions, and more than one decision a day. The question is when they make those decisions, do they rely upon God for wisdom, and are the decisions that they make consistent with their core values? And so that, to me, would be part of responding to what you just said.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think that's I mean me and you both, and I'm sure a lot of people have been through different bosses in their life that they just this ethical decision making. I mean, I've told you sort of the same story that you just told you to leave your boss. I've had similar where you know, they, they, they, they hit into this. This veil of I'm the most church going, bible preaching kind of leader, but behind the scenes is is one of the people in top management. I'm like just calling bs the whole time and it's just like I couldn't do it, you know, and I'm like I don't.
Speaker 2:I can't work for that.
Speaker 1:I can't work for that person you know you either got to be true and and live the life that you're trying to project out there to so you can get business, all that. But if you can't back that up with who you are personally, then I have no room for you as far as business friends, whatever it might be. You've got to be able to back that up.
Speaker 2:So are you the same person in private as you are in public.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And that, to me, is a very good example of being a trustworthy, honest person.
Speaker 1:Yep being a trustworthy honest person, yep.
Speaker 1:So the next one that I have down here is service orientation, emulating Jesus's servant leadership. Leaders today can foster a culture of service and humility in their organizations. We sort of talked about that. What are we doing to our clients? What are we doing to our organization? Servant leadership and we just had a discussion on that here a few weeks ago about servant leadership, and you know what are steps that people can do better. What are some good characteristics that you feel that Jesus really put in place that we could bring into businesses nowadays?
Speaker 2:So I would say just there's several, but I'll just say one off the top of my head, and that would be as a leader for myself. I would say that I didn't ask my congregation to do anything I wasn't willing to do myself. So if I asked them to pray for something, if I asked them to go walk and pray on the street, if I asked them to serve, go on a mission trip, I would not encourage them to do that if I wasn't willing to do it myself. So I'm thinking that sometimes we've seen people who are very good at giving directions but they're not willing to get in there and sweat with their workers. I'm just thinking of two people that we hire. And there's one person that does rock work. He's out there with a shovel with his workers. Another guy we have trim our trees. He's up climbing trees with his workers, I mean.
Speaker 2:And so to me I have a lot more respect for the leader that's willing to do the hard work instead of just assigning it. And we've had people come out and do work at our house and they'll drop off their workers and then they'll go bid another job, and I've never seen them actually do the work except get the job, and so I like to see people who are still doing the work, not just having other people do it, and to me, I have a lot more respect for them. Now, sometimes you get up in a company that you know it's big. It's so big that you're not going to be down with every day. But the question would be what are you doing to get in touch with the person that's actually producing the revenue? And so to me, that would be a part of a leader's job to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, good points. Third, one out of my four is resilience and perseverance. Drawing from biblical examples, leaders can remain steadfast in their commitments and demonstrate resilience in challenging times. It's one of my keynotes I give grit, get resilient in tough times, and there's a lot to be learned about that you know and and some of the examples that you know, we I've got on that.
Speaker 1:That keynote is you know Michael Jordan, you know Wayne Gretzky, elvis I mean we don't know Elvis's history. You know of what he was a shy kid. Shy kid. There's a lot of. His music teacher said give it up, you have zero musical talent, just write it off. I mean that was his music teacher. You know Abraham Lincoln. You know we've mentioned Abraham Lincoln. That's probably my biggest thing that I reference all the time.
Speaker 2:As far as resiliency, how about Rocky thing that I reference all the time? As far as resiliency, how about Rocky? Rocky, let's go with Rocky, right? Oh, wow, what an incredible example. For. But here's the thing Rocky would have never made it if he didn't have his coach and his wife to pick him up and encourage him. And so if we're down and we don't know if we can get back up, maybe we need to reach out and ask for help from somebody, a friend or something that can encourage us, pick us up, maybe sometimes cry with us and help us get back on our feet. And to me, that would be. You talked about fidelity and friendship. You talked about fidelity and friendship. We might not have one, two, three friends, but sometimes we need them and sometimes we need to be there for them when they get knocked down. So to me, that would be an important aspect of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And then the last one I have is faith and values integration. Leaders can integrate their faith and values into their leadership approach, ensuring their actions align with their beliefs Sort of what we talked about a little bit earlier. You know standing behind, you know who the person you are in public and who the person you are in the private. You know how do you resonate yes.
Speaker 2:And one other thing for leaders of any type of organization is are you praying about your decisions?
Speaker 2:Or do you think that you have enough wisdom to address all the situations that are going to come up to your business. There's someone who is the wisest one and he's available 24-7. If you just tap into him and he can guide you. Maybe not in the timeline that you want, but I've said this more than once Some of my let's just say, craziest, but probably good ideas come when I'm mowing the lawn and I'm on my riding mower and my head's, you know, bopping up and down because of the grass, and all of a sudden, because I'm just not thinking about, I'm just thinking about mowing, and all of a sudden, just because it's just bam, I have this idea and I know it's not from me, I know it's just planted there from God, and it's like, oh, I could address that situation that way.
Speaker 2:I never thought about that, and so I would think that spending time in the office, maybe during lunch, five minutes, get into office five minutes early, spend time praying, say Lord, give me some wisdom this day as I make this or interview this person. I want to interview and hire the right person. Or, you know, this is going to be a tough decision because I have to let this person go. Give me the words of grace to say that and that would be a really good practice to incorporate faith with our daily life.
Speaker 1:Makes sense.
Speaker 2:Makes sense.
Speaker 1:Fidelity. However you do it, just work on it. There's lots of layers, Lots of layers.
Speaker 2:But such an important topic to every one of our lives, every single one.
Speaker 1:All right guys. Well, if you're wanting to endure, I just have 20 or 30 dad jokes, just 20 or 30 dad jokes, right.
Speaker 2:But here's the one I'm going to. Just maybe I'll do this one. It's going to be so bad.
Speaker 1:Whatever You're going to do, three minimum, I know you. Here we go.
Speaker 2:We're talking about soccer. Okay, a little bit of soccer. Why was Cinderella so bad at playing soccer?
Speaker 1:Oh, it has to be something with her shoes.
Speaker 2:Well, not quite.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Okay, because she kept running away from the ball.
Speaker 1:You know, I'll give you a. I sort of like that one, I don't mind that one. So yeah, I'm okay with that one.
Speaker 2:Okay. So what does a what does corn say? What does an ear of corn say when it gets a compliment?
Speaker 1:An ear of corn say when it gets a compliment. I've heard this one before, but I do Ah shucks, ah shucks. There you go. That's sort of like the old one. What do you call cheese that isn't yours?
Speaker 2:Nacho cheese. Nacho cheese that was my number one right there on the list, but I said, no, that's really cheesy, that's really cheesy.
Speaker 1:I'm just not going to do that one. Why don't eggs?
Speaker 2:tell jokes, I don't know, because they quack up, they quack up. Okay, here's my last one for the day.
Speaker 1:Oh, come on, Not my last one ever, my last one for the day.
Speaker 2:What does a spy do when he or she is cold?
Speaker 1:I do not know this.
Speaker 2:They go undercover. Nice, oh, there we go. Yeah, all right. Okay, I told you that was going to be my last one.
Speaker 1:I thought that was going to go a different direction. I really was like I might be able to figure this one out. Why did I not be able to figure?
Speaker 2:it out. I don't know the answer to that question.
Speaker 1:All righty guys, Thank you for listening to us today, as always.
Speaker 2:And hopefully you stayed through the entire show.
Speaker 1:Hopefully, you caught the last four or five dad jokes and you made it through.
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