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The Biblical Leadership Show
Leviticus Unveiled: Leadership, Boundaries, and Joyful Insights from Ancient Texts
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Ever wondered how an ancient text full of rules and rituals could shape modern leadership? Join Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey on the Biblical Leadership Show as we uncover the transformative power of the Book of Leviticus. From personal anecdotes to dad jokes, we make this ancient text relevant and engaging, offering you timeless wisdom for leadership and personal growth.
In this episode, we break down the complexities of Leviticus, explaining the sacrificial system, the roles of priests, and the importance of boundaries in both personal and professional life. We explore how these ancient practices can inform contemporary business ethics and church leadership, giving you practical insights to implement in your daily life. Whether you're curious about the Day of Atonement or the concept of a scapegoat, we cover it all with a lighthearted yet informative approach.
But it’s not all serious talk—expect plenty of humor as we share dad jokes and personal stories, like a memorable visit to an orchard that ended with delicious peaches and pie. Plus, we discuss the benefits of fasting, not just from food but from negative behaviors, and how substituting these with positive actions can lead to spiritual and physical enrichment. Tune in for a mix of laughter and learning, and stay with us throughout the year for more biblical insights and fun moments.
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Speaker 1:Hey, if you didn't know, if you weren't, everybody should have been here listening, but in case you haven't, well, this is our third in a series, a year-long series we have. We're going to talk about each of the books of the Bible and then come up with some leadership and then talk a little bit about the stories and the meaning of each chapter. So I'm excited because you know, what we were talking about earlier is one of the things that I remember. When I started out reading the Bible, I think I made it through the first two books and then I hit this one and I just went straight to the New Testament. So I was like, have I read this one? And I started going through and doing my show prep on this. I'm like, nope, I think I bypassed this one. So this whole show is about Tim's learning. So just, I have a one-on-one.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to take a nap. You go and talk.
Speaker 1:No, no, I've got one-on-one ministry, I've got the floor here. So what are we talking about today? And then tell us about this.
Speaker 2:Leadership principles from the book of Leviticus.
Speaker 1:Leviticus.
Speaker 2:Now I share this with you prior to the show, but in my experience of helping people read the Bible which to me still is the number one way to grow in your faith is to read the Bible every day. However, I encourage people to start with the New Testament. Or, if they're gonna read the old, start from the New Testament. Or if they're going to start from the Old Testament, read a chapter or two and then read something from the New Testament. Just because you'll read Genesis, which is an incredible story, you'll read the book of Exodus, another incredible story. Then you get to the book of Leviticus and there's just a bunch of rules, guidelines, regulations, and you get so bogged down. You just get bogged down, and so a lot of people if they don't stop in Leviticus.
Speaker 2:Next week we're going to talk about numbers, and then the next week we talk about Deuteronomy, and they'll get bogged down really fast in those third, fourth and fifth books and, and so it's. We can learn a lot, okay from that, especially in leadership. I think it's really really good. But Leviticus has 27 chapters and you can just get really bogged down if you use the wrong filter to read the book. And so we'll just talk about what it's about, and then we can talk about what that has to do with our lives today. Leadership principles Obviously, we're going to throw in some dad jokes.
Speaker 1:What Dad jokes. You like dad dad jokes.
Speaker 2:I really like dad jokes oh my gosh, yes okay.
Speaker 2:So let's just describe where the book, a little bit of this comes and why it's important in the Bible and and so we started out with the book of Genesis and then we get to the book of Exodus. So during those out with the book of Genesis and then we get to the book of Exodus, so during those two books, the people of Israel have been in slavery and bondage in Egypt for 400 years. Moses is born. God uses Moses to bring the people out of Egypt, and then we get to the book of Leviticus. Now think about you know, we don't know exactly how many, but let's just say, for Brown's sake, two and a half million people. So you have two and a half million people coming out of one place, going to another. They're going to the promised land and God wants to help them become a holy people that live a life of integrity. Some of these people potentially have never had any guidelines, rules, regulations. They've had no boundaries on their life and all of a sudden God's saying no, I want you to be a people that honors me in everything you do, so we're going to have to have boundaries. Now think about that just, for example, in your family or in a position of leadership in your business. Everyone has boundaries about certain things. It could be your work week Okay, I'm going to work 40 hours a week. I'm going to work 60 hours a week, I'm going to work 80, 100. But you have a boundary, and that could be imposed by your employer. It could be imposed by you, but there's a boundary. Well, the question is do I have boundaries on my morality? Do I have boundaries on my integrity? Do I have boundaries on my character? Do I have boundaries on my character or do I not?
Speaker 2:I was sharing this. I just left a friend I was dropping some books off at his place of work. I had read some books, I was just going to let him have them because I'd finished with them, and he said something to me that I thought was rather profound. He said you can either have character or you can have an easy life, and so just think of that as a pendulum Character on one side, easy life on the other. It's very difficult to do both. So if you're going to focus on character, you're going to have to make some hard decisions, or let's just say, decisions about boundaries. There are certain things you can do and certain things you can't do, and so sometimes the filter that people, when they read the book of leviticus, all they see are the things they can't do right, okay this is a boundary.
Speaker 2:They always look at the can't do part. It's very rare that someone who reads it for the first time looks at, oh, these are the things I can do. Okay, I can help others, I can love, I can serve, I can, you know, help the community, and and so they just look at this, all these things that they, all these rules and regulations. They don't see them as. Oh, that's something that I might be thinking about.
Speaker 2:What are the boundaries in my life? Right, if I'm a owner of a business, what are my boundaries on my business? Do I just kind of do whatever anybody wants, or do we have a focus? Like you, you build homes, very nice homes for people. Um, you don't build cars, you know. You said no, I'm not going to do that because I want to do this. The same thing is true with the book of leviticus. God said if you want to be a people that honors me in everything you do, there's got to be some boundaries on your behavior, on your actions towards yourself, toward towards other people, towards me. And so the question is do you want to follow those boundaries or do you not? So I've said this to a lot of young people and you can choose to do anything you want. You really can.
Speaker 2:You have a great country. You can choose to do anything you want, but you can't always choose the consequences. Sometimes you can A lot of. You can't always choose the consequences. Sometimes you can, a lot of times you can't choose the consequences. And so in the book of Leviticus, god is saying hey, if you want to live a holy and righteous life that honors me in everything, these are the boundaries I'm setting up and you can choose to live that. And there are certain consequences to that kind of life. If you choose not to live that kind of life, there's going to be certain consequences. You can't always choose the consequences. We can choose what we like to do.
Speaker 2:The problem over time with the book of Leviticus and the rules let's just use the word rules, even though I don't necessarily like them is that the rules, the people that were in charge of the rules, even though I don't necessarily like them, is that the rules. The people that were in charge of the rules basically began to see themselves as better than other people because they knew the rules and they basically imposed these rules on other people. They didn't always keep them themselves, but they imposed them on others and that's never good. You know from our very first podcast almost a year ago, we talked about the importance of your word. Is your word your bond? Are you a person of integrity? Can people do you walk your talk? And what we see in the scripture, unfortunately and tragically, is not everybody who was in charge of the rules kept the rules.
Speaker 1:They wanted other people to keep them, but they didn't.
Speaker 2:So think about this as if you own a business, are you asking your employees to do something that you're not willing to do? That's a great question Are you walking your talk, or do you have boundaries for other people but you have no boundaries for yourself? So that to me is kind of an overview of the book of Leviticus, and we can learn a lot from that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, one of the things when I was doing the prep, it was just, you know, I kept asking different questions and doing different researches and this chapter I kept pulling up no, this is all about the laws pertaining to this, this is all about the rituals pertaining to this. And then I would try to ask another question and try to go in there and do a different show. No, this is about the laws, this is about the. And I'm like I'm going to ask one more question. No, this is about the laws and this is a rituals pertaining to this. And it was, you know, it was very clear in all my research. That that's. You know what this chapter is about. And as I read through a lot of the verses and looked at everything, and, yeah, it is.
Speaker 1:And one of the things that we say to people is we have to have boundaries. And when I teach it in corporate leadership, people don't. They say they don't want boundaries, but they want to know. If you just assign them a project, what's the first question out of their mouth? When does it need to be done? By? What do I need to do? How do I need to do it With kids? You can't do this can't do this. They're mad, but at the same time they respect it and all that stuff. So I think it's necessary to put something together that has boundaries. So I understand the thought process behind this. But, yeah, it was definitely an interesting read when I was doing my show prep. So, because I think, I think, I, because I remember Deuteronomy I remember reading that one, but I just don't remember these two chapters that we're talking about.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh, I just was thinking and I was like I really I was in there going huh, I don't know that I've looked at this one more than like two sentences, so you know so people do get bogged down and then sometimes they just unfortunately just stop reading the Bible, yeah, and see that doesn't apply to me.
Speaker 2:why shouldn't I read this? But think about it this way just think about a person growing up physically. You know, we start as an infant, then we grow to adolescence and then we go to adulthood. Well, the same thing can be true, that that progress of development is. The same thing can be said for character development. Okay, someone's chronological age is no indication of their character development. They could be 60, 70, 80 years old, but they still can have a character of a teenager. You know, they're just immature self-centered.
Speaker 2:It's all about me. The world revolves around my needs.
Speaker 1:And it could be that you ask different people, that If you ask my wife, come here, my kids, and the goal is to be the same with everybody, that's right, or if they're mad at you, no, whatever.
Speaker 2:But think about in other areas of life, not just chronological age. Think about a business you want to start up. You're in your infancy, right. Then you get that going. You might have several more customers. You just keep getting new clients or customers. And then you mature to where now you're hiring a person. So now you're almost in your adolescent stage where you're training someone else to help you do the job and you're doing the job too. And then as you grow you might get more employees, you might get more clients, hopefully. Then you get into adulthood.
Speaker 2:But just because we're in adulthood doesn't mean we can't stop continuing to grow. And so to me the book of leviticus is trying to help people along that progression. The question would be how mature do you want to be in your faith, walk with god? And if you just want to be an infant your whole life, then don't worry about the boundaries, okay, just live whatever you want to live, but there's going to be consequences to that. If you want to get to the teenage years and just kind of be in that stage the rest of your life, that's your prerogative. But if you want to continue maturing in your character, in your integrity, in your walk with God, integrity in your walk with God in your relationships with other people, then there are certain things you're going to choose to not do in order to choose the things you can do, and and I think that's what the book of Leviticus is all about, and and so so much of that applies to our life, even though we got to sometimes read between the lines to see those lessons.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's part of it, you know. So let's talk about some of the things that the book of Leviticus talks about.
Speaker 2:You mean kind of the outline, yeah, sort of where it went through.
Speaker 1:You know there was a lot of different takeaways, I guess, out of Leviticus. You know a lot of stories that have meaning to it and let's enlighten people, catch them up if they've never read. I mean, this is like the Cliff Notes version this year of the Bible. You know, if you hang out with us and spend the next 52 weeks well, next 50 weeks, 50 weeks you have with us you should have a good thing and then hopefully, you know, as we go through this, we're sparking your interest where you pick up the Bible and read it and learn from some. That's what our ultimate goal is to spark some interest in you being better as far as reading the Bible.
Speaker 2:Exactly right. So before we start with the book of Leviticus, let's go back to the book of Exodus, okay? Because if you just pick up the book of Leviticus and start reading it, I mean okay, but you're going to try to figure out what's the sacrificial system? Who's the priest? Priest, how do they get chosen? Um, what's this purity law? What are the days of atonement? What? What is all of that? Well, if we go back to the book of exodus, okay, and look, then what we can see is once god had joshua be the leader. Moses died, so there had to be a leader, and so Joshua took the command and they were moving into the promised land. But after all of that happened, it's like, okay, now we need to have the, the tabernacle, there needs to be some. How do we choose priests? You know, aaron died. Who's going to be the successor to him? What's the role of the priest? You had the and so you, in the book of Exodus, you have those things that are beginning to take shape. The question is now how do you use them? What's the purpose of all of that? Why do we have an altar? Why do we have a tabernacle? Why do we have all altar? Why do we have a tabernacle? Why do we have all those things?
Speaker 2:And so the book of Leviticus begins to outline okay, now that you have this place for sacrifice, what does that actually look like? How often do you do it? And they use animal sacrifice. How do we do that? What's the importance? How do you pick an animal? What all?
Speaker 2:So the first several chapters of leviticus talk about the sacrifice. Okay, and so getting from that is like okay, um, what are we going to do to sacrifice? What are we going to sacrifice in order to be a better person? What are we going to sacrifice in order to be a better spouse? What are we going to sacrifice in order to be a better boss or a better parent? Okay, many times we have to lay down our own agenda and we have to choose to not do certain things in order to serve other people, or you know so. So that's a really important aspect of life. Don't just focus on the sacrifice of the animals in the book of Leviticus. Think about how does that apply to me? Well, am I going to sacrifice anything? Am I going to sacrifice any of my wishes or desires, or am I going to sacrifice time to help someone else? Maybe, maybe not. Okay, so those are the first several chapters in Leviticus.
Speaker 2:And then we talk about the priests. Okay, the line of Aaron coming down. What are the priestly responsibilities? What did they get to do? What did they not get to do? What was their role? Why was there a role in that? Now think about the church today. Role in that? Now think about the church today. Most every denomination has certain requirements for those people who are going to be in leadership. Okay, how do you get trained to be a pastor? What are your requirements?
Speaker 1:You just can't print a business card.
Speaker 2:You can if you want to, and some people are very, very gifted.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Very gifted, have never had any formal training, but it's just a gift from God. They have the ability to read and understand the Bible they have the ability to communicate that to other people in an incredible way and I'm so thankful for people who feel called to be in that kind of profession. Maybe it's a bivocational person, someone's a plumber. They also feel called to be a pastor Fantastic.
Speaker 1:I'm still trying to figure out the way to buy that church. There's a church for sale down here in Dallas. I keep looking at it, trying to figure out how to buy it. So I'm trying to find me a money tree.
Speaker 2:Good Lord, if you want me to buy a church.
Speaker 1:I need that lottery.
Speaker 2:Okay. So then, after the priestly duties and those kind of things, then we come to laws of purity, um, and how to be clean before god, and why that's important. Um, and then, um, they in. In chapter 16 of leviticus, we we read about the day of atonement, when that was a day set apart once a year, where the priest, the high priest, would enter the very center of the tabernacle, the holy of holies, and to make atonement for their own sins and the sins of the people. Um, very powerful day, um is this once a year?
Speaker 1:it was once a year, okay, yeah is this once a year?
Speaker 2:it was once a year, okay, yeah, and and then that's where the whole thought of, or the the term scapegoat, because they would have a goat that would be, you know, prayed over but then left into the wilderness and so that's okay. Think about that. In business, if someone makes a mistake, do we try to find a scapegoat? Do we actually accept the blame, or do we always try to find someone else to be at fault? So you know that there's about 10 chapters about holiness, about the moral, ethical, ritual aspects of life. Now think about it the Jewish people in Egypt. Basically, they might have had some rules, we don't know what those might have been, but now God is trying to lead them so that everyone becomes a person that honors God with their whole life. How do we do that? So here in chapters 17 through 26, here in chapters 17 through 26, there are some boundaries that God is setting on that. And then the very end is about the blessings if you are obedient to that, and curses if you're not, or consequences if you're not.
Speaker 2:And so that's kind of an outline of that um. It goes right into the next um book, which we'll talk about next week in the book of numbers, which is exactly what it says. I mean, they're counting the people, and we'll get to that next week. And so those are sometimes tough chapters for people to read, just because it's like, oh my goodness, on and on and on about the sacrifice, on and on and on about the rules, on and on and on about this, on and on and on about that. And my encouragement is, if you've never read it, to step back and say, ok, what are the boundaries I'm going to set in my life? What am I going to focus on? What's my outcome objective for my life?
Speaker 2:I was listening to a podcast this morning while I was riding my bike, about just embracing the challenge. So if you've never played guitar and you say, no, I want to do that, okay, embrace the challenge. It's obviously a triathlon podcast, but it goes the same dynamic is true, whether you want to learn to play an instrument, whether you want to do an athletic event, whether you want to start a business, whatever, if you don't embrace the challenge, okay, then you're going to fail from the very beginning. And so the question is if you want to live a godly life and we're all going to make mistakes, that's a given. But if you're going to embrace and live a godly life and we're all going to make mistakes, that's that's a given but if you're going to embrace and live a godly life, then you really need to embrace the challenge, which means you're going to choose to do certain things and choose not to do certain things that honor god, and that's what the book of leviticus is all about nice, yeah, nice, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1:Uh, it was an interesting one when I was going through and and I thought it had a lot of lessons. I thought there was a lot of lessons I could take away from the leadership and we sort of talked about some of these. You know, how can we turn this into modern day? You know, and I think you made the great point of, you know, not look about what you can't. You know, the negative about what you can't do sometimes is what you can do.
Speaker 1:I like that analogy of putting that back and forth and looking at both sides instead of making this a doom and gloom. You know, and I you know, because it's a tough read in a lot of cases and and. But I don't think it was like you said. I don't think it was put together like that. I think it was about creating boundaries, creating something where it's just not like go do whatever you want, and all that stuff. There are some rules and regulations that we have to abide by, but, from a leadership thing, one of the big things that we talked about pre-show is the accountability, you know, and I think that's what was trying to be instilled in people as far as there's got to be some rules and regulations to be able to instill accountability, as far as there's got to be some rules and regulations to be able to instill accountability.
Speaker 2:Every business, every family has certain type of boundaries or rules and regulations. And the question is, you might not think you have, you think, oh no, I don't like rules. But if you actually look to say no, I'm not going to do that, I'm not going to go 150 miles an hour in the car, you know? Okay, well, what's your boundary, what's your limit? Um, okay, 120, I don't know what that is. Um, there were, we were coming back from new mexico over the weekend.
Speaker 2:uh, a tragic story. My sister passed away and so we were out there for her service, and out there in West Texas, you know, the speed limit is some places 80 miles an hour and that for some people means nothing. It literally means nothing. And I thought, wow, I think anybody can drive 80 miles an hour. Not everybody can stop with a flat tire at 80 miles. They don't know how to handle a car at 80 miles an hour if they have a flat tire. Anyway.
Speaker 1:I won't tell you my West Texas story no.
Speaker 2:I don't want to hear it right now, maybe when we're done Off the air, but I think you're right. What you said is accountability, and are we going to allow ourselves to be accountable to any person? I have taught the discipline of fasting for a long, long time to people. So many times people go into fasting thinking, oh, I have to give up something, and I'm thinking don't look at it that way. Fasting is substituting one thing for another, for me fasting is substituting physical food for spiritual food.
Speaker 2:So instead of eating, you're going to be reading your Bible and praying. And so the question the same thing would be true with the book of Leviticus and boundaries. We might think, oh, if I could just substitute that behavior for this behavior, then know, I can grow in my character. If I substitute this behavior for this behavior, then I, I will be more kind to people or more forgiving for people, or more tolerant of people or whatever. And so it's really is the filter. And how do you look at it, instead of just looking at it as rules and regulations that you say, no, I don't want anything to do with that at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, fasting, fasting's great. If you've never fasted before, do like a little three-day fast. You don't have to do like a 40-day fast or anything, but you do a three-day fast and it'll reset your body. It sort of has so many benefits outside of um, you know, just for your body and spiritually and it's, it's an amazing and and to to get your head on straight, you know, be able to do it.
Speaker 2:I totally agree. Now, some people they can't fast. You know people women who are pregnant, people who are diabetic. You, if you have some type of health issue, you really need to talk to your doctor about that and it might be that you don't fast from food. Maybe you fast from social media.
Speaker 2:Maybe you fast from television, maybe you fast from, whatever it may be, but you substitute whatever you're doing. Hey, look at your phone. How much screen time have you had in the last week? Well, what if you substitute all of those minutes for prayer?
Speaker 1:Just for three days.
Speaker 2:It would really be a great lesson, okay, and so just think about it You're going to substitute one thing for another.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's brilliant.
Speaker 2:Now we're going to substitute great conversation for the dad jokes.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, yeah, we haven't even had some dad jokes.
Speaker 2:Where are we at?
Speaker 1:We're at 30 minutes. We haven't even done a dad joke, right Dad joke? Oh my God, we need to pull out a dad joke.
Speaker 2:Here we are. Wow, what is the problem with us?
Speaker 1:Problem with you. You're my dad joke on top of you've got a timer set over there for dad jokes. Right, I have so many dad jokes.
Speaker 2:But oh, when set over there for dad jokes, right I have so many dad jokes but uh, oh, when we were in new mexico, you know what was happening was that the hatch chili festival. Oh my goodness, hatch chili is so good. I grew up with hatch chili out in albuquerque it is so good. So we got some hatch chili gonna patch chili, going to make some chile rellenos. It's going to be really really good. So what dad jokes do you want to share with us today?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I'm just looking at something. I have the book from when my kids were here.
Speaker 2:Oh yes, I forgot the card file.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, you don't have the emergency, dad, we need to get one for the studio. We just put the card is filed. Oh my gosh, you don't have the emergency data. We need to get one for the studio.
Speaker 2:We just put the emergency data.
Speaker 1:And I just opened a book to one and looked down like right there and I just pointed and it said what invention lets you look right through a wall?
Speaker 2:What invention helps you look right through a wall, a window?
Speaker 1:A window. Oh, there we go. What's the difference between?
Speaker 2:a poorly dressed man on a tricycle and a well-dressed man on a bicycle.
Speaker 1:I do not know A tire.
Speaker 2:I'll scratch that one up.
Speaker 1:There we go. Let me move my my ipad over here.
Speaker 2:Get to the yeah, that's oh definitely that was a bad one.
Speaker 1:Let's see, what are we, what do we got in here.
Speaker 2:Let's see I got nothing you got nothing.
Speaker 1:I mean I got lots of them, but I'm trying to find one that's worth it. Oh, okay yeah, there we go okay, I'm ready, I'm ready what do you got?
Speaker 2:no, it's your turn. Always it might turn.
Speaker 1:Why did the sheriff go to the barbecue?
Speaker 2:why did the sheriff go to the barbecue?
Speaker 1:yeah. I don't know he heard it was a place for a stakeout. I I can't reach the button I wish.
Speaker 2:I could. Okay, here's one. Okay, so when we're driving, we had to first go to Arizona. My sister lived in Arizona, in Chandler, outside of Phoenix, and we had a storage building and we were driving to Arizona. If you're driving on interstate 10 from the southern mexico and you pass, uh, wilcox, arizona, there is an incredible apple peach orchard. They're called apple annies. Okay, and we picked our own peaches. Oh my goodness, then we just had to have pie. That's what we had for lunch pie and ice cream. It was incredible. But here's a question right from the orchard how many apples grow on an apple tree?
Speaker 1:how many apples?
Speaker 2:grow on an apple tree.
Speaker 1:How many apples?
Speaker 2:as many apples.
Speaker 1:all of them Something simple, right, all right, let's see. What was that about Hawaiian pizza?
Speaker 2:Oh, no, no can't do it. Uh, let's see okay, here we go. This might be the last one of the day. Get your butt in red, all right, okay all right how does van diesel keep in touch with the fast and furious crew?
Speaker 1:I do not know on a Zoom call. Oh boy, oh boy. So let's do a recap on Leviticus here to give them a positive note on this Okay, yes.
Speaker 1:So what are some of the takeaways on this? So we know that we go through all the different rituals and laws and everything. What do you think the biggest takeaway that people can take away? This in modern life, what can they do, how can they use this when they're reading through the Bible? Because I mean, again, that's what we're trying to get you to do is pick up the Bible. I know that I did it in show prep. I'm going to actually read a little bit more when we go through. But what are some takeaways? Or different ways to look at things, or different. You know where I'm sort of going.
Speaker 2:You know what's some takeaways that they can leave at us. I would say, okay, we'll go back to a podcast that we had months and months ago. It's like what is the goal of your life? What kind of person do you want to be? What kind of business do you want to have? What kind of father, mother, spouse do you want to be? Okay, think about three to five years from now.
Speaker 2:The book of Leviticus. God was trying to make a people holy unto himself. That's his goal. Now, my belief, that's his goal for every human being on the planet. So you have these two and a half million people. We don't know exactly, we're just picking a number. His goal was to make them holy unto himself. Set apart. That's what holy means set apart, so set apart for himself.
Speaker 2:There had to be some guidelines to how do you do that? Okay, if my goal is to be a better spouse, how do I do that? Okay, I might not know, I might need to get some guidance from other people, from books, from podcasts. How do I become a better husband or father? And if that's my goal, and then there's going to be certain things that I'm not going to do in order to do that, if that is my goal now, actions are a lot stronger than words. Are we going to really do it? Our actions going to show that we're going to do it? Are we just going to say it and not do it?
Speaker 2:So, the book of of Leviticus I'm saying, okay, if the goal is to be a person dedicated to God, what does that mean in my everyday life? And so that would be an important thing. Now, if your goal is to not do that, but you want to be a better spouse or you want a better boss or whatever, then okay, how do you do that? What are your steps to make that happen? Happen? The other thing I think that we didn't mention. I didn't mention earlier in the whole book of leviticus it talks about the sabbath okay, that's right, the sabbath is so important it should still be important.
Speaker 2:There's got to be a day of rest, regrouping, recharging, um. Do we just go 20 hours a day and try to get three hours of sleep and just do it again, or do we actually see that rest is an important part of life and do we set aside a day to just be with family, to rest, to worship God, or are we working seven days a week? Those are important a week. Those are important. You know, in my triathlon training, one of the things that continually keep us up, in addition to the swimming, biking, running is how much sleep are you getting? How much rest? Because proper rest rejuvenates our bodies so that we can be prepared for whatever's coming up the next day.
Speaker 2:Now, when I was younger, literally four to five hours, I would just wake up. Now it's probably six or seven and I feel good. But if I don't get that over a period of time, then I can really tell that my body is wearing down. So proper sleep, proper rest. I think that's another lesson of the book of Leviticus. Do we have a Sabbath? Do we have a day off from work? Do we enjoy it with our family? If we're single, what do we do on a day of rest. So that's another real important lesson from the book of Leviticus.
Speaker 1:I like it. I like it. So you know, as you're reading through this, you know, just figure out what you can do to make yourself better. Do you have boundaries, and how do you look at those boundaries? Are they handcuffs or are they, you know, the golden handcuffs where you can, you know, use that to take you to the next level on something Correct? All right, well, I guess we'll wrap it up and call it a good time on this one. What?
Speaker 2:do we got? Next week we're going to focus on the book of Numbers. The book of Numbers Is this mathematics yeah, it is, the first couple of chapters is actually counting the people that came out of Egypt, and that's where the numbers come from, and so we'll talk about that. I'm looking forward to that. Some great lessons on leadership and life from the book of Numbers.
Speaker 1:Wonderful. You should probably pull up one little dad joke to get us out of here.
Speaker 2:You think I should pull up a dad joke.
Speaker 1:Yeah, check us out biblicalleadershipshowcom. You can text us on our show prep, you can shoot us emails over there. But other than that, hopefully you enjoyed this. Hopefully you enjoyed this series. I'm pretty excited about this series personally, you know, just for like this. You know, not spending that much time reading through this actual book of the Bible, and you know I've learned a lot through this. And you know, hopefully you guys will stick with us, pick up the Bible and do a little side reading other than just the show. But, if nothing else, just hang out with us this year and and get all the cliff nurse version If you're a cliff, nose by. So you got one good one that you can take us out with you don't? He's got a list like spread out of like 200 dad jokes. Why?
Speaker 2:did the computer go to the doctor?
Speaker 1:Oh, I probably can figure this one out.
Speaker 2:You probably could.
Speaker 1:I'll let you tell it, because it had a virus there you go yeah, we'll have to close that on that one. We might even throw a trombone on that one. Alright, check us out. Biblical leadership show. Dr Posey takes out with. Thank you.
