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The Biblical Leadership Show
Numbers: Precise Records, Leadership Lessons, and Celebratory Reflections
What if keeping precise records could transform your leadership approach? We kick off the episode with a fresh exploration of the book of Numbers, delving into its key themes and historical context. From the meticulous census of the Israelites to the events that shaped their journey, we uncover fascinating details that often go unnoticed.
Accurate record-keeping isn't just a biblical principle—it's a cornerstone of effective business management. By drawing parallels between the detailed counting of the Israelites and modern-day business practices, we highlight the importance of confronting challenges head-on. Reflect on the story of the 12 spies sent to scout the Promised Land, and learn how the consequences of their report offer valuable lessons in leadership and resilience. We're all about making ancient texts relevant and engaging, connecting them to today's leadership dilemmas.
Humility, grace, and determination are at the heart of powerful leadership, as exemplified by Moses. We discuss how Moses navigated constant complaints and obstacles while staying true to his mission and maintaining his faith. Wrapping up, we emphasize the importance of prioritizing tasks handed down by God and staying committed to them. Don't forget to tune in for our upcoming episodes on Deuteronomy and Joshua, and visit biblicalleadershipshow.com for more engaging content. Join us next week as we continue our journey through the Bible, offering insights that resonate with our everyday lives.
Welcome, welcome, welcome to another exciting episode of the Biblical Leadership Show. We've tried to change it. Last show, if you heard us, we tried to come up with something creative other than the welcome, welcome, welcome and laughing.
Speaker 2:We just can't do it, so that's it.
Speaker 1:I mean for eternity. You're just going to have to bear with us on that.
Speaker 2:I like it. I like it too.
Speaker 1:I like it, like it, like it oh boy, oh boy, Hello, hello, hello, hey, Dr P how are you doing, dr Posey and Tim Lansford, here at the Biblical Leadership Show?
Speaker 2:I'm doing really, really good. We're doing pretty good here, just enjoying our time Enjoying being with you, brother, whether in the studio or out, it's just always a joy.
Speaker 1:Well, there you go.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We got to do some axe throwing here sometime.
Speaker 2:We got to do something real quick because we're coming up on our first anniversary and we've been saying axe throwing for a while.
Speaker 1:Right, we just got to put it on the calendar and just go do it. We got to. Well, if you've been following, you know that we're doing a new series. We've got a 52-week series that we imparted here a couple weeks ago, two, three weeks ago and we're taking books of the Bible and we're taking them one at a time and we're talking about the stories, some of the lessons that came out of each of the books of the Bible, and then talking how we could tie it into modern-day leadership lessons and see what we can get out of here. So what are we talking about today?
Speaker 2:We're going to talk about the book of Numbers. The book of Numbers, that's the fourth book in the Bible.
Speaker 1:Now this is a mathematical book where we're just going to do equations and all that stuff. Is this what we're doing today? No, we're actually counting. We're counting All right?
Speaker 2:Well, we're not counting, but that's the record. The first part and the last part of the book is the counting of the people who came out of Egypt when God used Moses to bring the people out of slavery.
Speaker 2:Nice so the first couple of chapters in the book of Numbers is actually, well, how many people did we actually have, right? And so there's a record over the next first couple of chapters of counting the people. And now this is counting men who are 20 years of age and older. Okay, we don't know how many women or how many children, but we do have the record of the men and so we can guesstimate. It's like, okay, if every man was married which is probably a pretty good assumption not 100%, but pretty good assumption and everybody had one or two kids, well then we're up into about two and a half million people.
Speaker 2:So the scholars are thinking, okay, there's between two million to four million people. We don't really know, but we do know it's a lot. That was the key. There's a lot of people coming out of Egypt. Moses was in charge, and we see here that there was some significant events that happened in the book of Numbers Some rebellion against Moses' leadership, some decisions that 10 people made that affected the entire nation for wandering in the wilderness for a long time. And so, yeah, we can learn a lot from this particular book.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's very, very nice. We learn how to count. Learn how to count.
Speaker 1:We could just technically just go one, two, three.
Speaker 2:Well, they did the rest of the show we could, and then throw in two dad jokes and we're good. Right, we're nuts. Oh, speaking of dad jokes, here we go. Let's just start. We struggled with dad jokes last week.
Speaker 1:We did, we did, we struggled, we were off our game, we were so off.
Speaker 2:Maybe I don't know. I don't know what it is Okay, here we go. Let's just start out with a groaner.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, I'm getting the buttons ready.
Speaker 2:What did the horse say after it tripped?
Speaker 1:Giddy up.
Speaker 2:Close. You're so close. Help, I've fallen and I can't giddy up.
Speaker 1:Oh nice, so good job there, brother. I was trying, you know you did a good job. You know, I just I reached over and grabbed the book here, right? So, the book of when my kids were in here. What is this one? Silly jokes for kids, right? So why did the magicians do so well in school?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:They're good at trick questions.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:I need to get a pointer and hit that button Right, okay.
Speaker 2:Speaking of horses again. What do you call a well-balanced horse?
Speaker 1:What do you call a well-balanced horse? I want to take some guess, but no, I'll go. Stable, nice, sort of like. What do you call the father of all sodas? Pop, pop, there we go, look at that, look at that, all right, so let's go through this numbers thing. Numbers, numbers, numbers. So why don't you sort of give us a recap of how the chapters of this go, sort of what we talked about a little bit. Okay, so let's go back. I know you gave us some recap, but sort of line out where we're going through some of that. And so here's the thing we've talked about the Leviticus and Numbers. Tough reads, right. So is there any big things?
Speaker 1:sort of I told you this is a Cliff Notes version, this year to hopefully get you excited, so hopefully you hear a story or something that you know. There's a couple in here that I want to read a little bit more. If you listened to the last show, I think that when I was reading the Bible I think Leviticus and Numbers somehow the pages stuck together. I went straight to.
Speaker 1:Deuteronomy. Yeah, that one, that one you know, and so yeah, so there's actually some stories that we've been talking about on the show prep. When I went through it and it really sparked my interest. I want to know more about some of the stories.
Speaker 2:Well, a lot of people get bogged down in the book of Leviticus and Numbers and Deuteronomy. Okay, let's put all those three together. They get bogged down and there's lots of chapters in the Book of Numbers. It's important as part of Jewish history. People were coming out of Egypt after being slaves for 400 years. We talked about the Book of Leviticus last week and you know boundaries, important boundaries. Some people see them as rules, which they were, and we talked about that. So if you missed that show, just get on our website and our podcast Biblicalleadershipshowcom.
Speaker 2:Exactly right. And look at the book of Leviticus, which sets us up for the book of Numbers, and so the question is how many people actually came out of Egypt? And so the book of Numbers, the first couple of chapters, they actually count the people so you can have an accurate count. And the Jewish people were very meticulous about numbers, genealogy and all those kind of things. So let's just take that as a biblical principle right now okay, as a principle for life?
Speaker 2:We might not if let's just say we're running a business okay, and we're a great carpenter, a plumber, electrician, drywall hanger, painter, whatever it may be. If you're not good at keeping your books, it's important that you find someone who is, because you need to be sure that you're doing accounts receivable, accounts payable. You don't want to get behind in any of that. You want to have an accurate reading of your business, so you'll know oh, you know what I'm not charging enough. I'm buying paint for $50 a gallon. By the time I do it, I only charge $40 a gallon. I can't do that. I'm only you know. I do my product, but I'm looking at my time and I'm only you know charging $15 an hour for my time.
Speaker 2:So numbers even though you don't have to go overboard some people are incredible at numbers you've got to have a basic understanding of math and of those kind of things so that you can make sure that your business works. And it's important to keep accurate records. And so that's what this very first four chapters of the book of Numbers, talking about keeping accurate records of the people, and so we get through that, the first four chapters, and then we get into some of the things that were happening. The people were out of Egypt, they had a pretty good life in Egypt, and then, just very similar to the book of Leviticus, we have some rules, laws, regulations, purity, those kind of things. So it's very similar to the book of Leviticus. Okay, maybe not the exact same laws, but the same concept. Okay, if you're going to be a people that are separated, for God's holiness, what are the guidelines you're going to have? So that's that particular next couple of chapters.
Speaker 2:And then we come into a section where come into a section where, really, chapter 11 through 14, where they get to the eastern edge of the country of Israel, the promised land, and Moses chooses 12 people, one from each tribe, to go spy out the land. They're called the 12 spies and they go and they spend some time checking out the land of Israel. They go all over checking it out. Moses wants them to come back and say, okay, tell us what you found. Let's get an accurate picture of the challenges that we are facing. Get an accurate picture of the challenges that we are facing Now, before we get to what happened after that. Let's just talk about that in practical life now. We all face challenges.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:We all face challenges. In our families. We face challenges, maybe the economy, maybe our work schedule, maybe our supplier if we're, you know, like you, you're a custom home builder we all face challenges. The question is are we going to acknowledge the challenge, meet it head on, or are we going to pretend that the challenge doesn't exist? Okay. Are we going to say you know what, I'll just give up, I'm just not going to do it? So when we see excuse me, when we see the issue of this whole dynamic in the book of Numbers so you had 12 spies come, go into the land. They spied out the land. They come back, fight out the land, they come back and 10 of them say, oh, it's just too hard. Now, joshua and Caleb said no, we can do this. You know God's on our side. Yes, there's going to be some challenges, but with God we can make this happen. We're going to do all this together. We can do this.
Speaker 2:Well, the 10 people were so loud that they convinced the entire nation to basically turn against Moses' leadership, and so they said we're not doing this, it's going to be too hard. We'd rather go back to Egypt, to the life that we had. Why did you bring us out here in the wilderness for all these problems? Let's just go back. Why did you bring us out here in the wilderness for all these problems? Let's just go back. And so, like I said in the last show, we can choose to do anything we want. We can't always choose the consequences.
Speaker 2:When the people made that decision to say we're not going into the promised land you know we've been looking forward to this, but it's just too hard, we're not going to do it they could not choose the consequences. God chose the consequences, and so their punishment, or their consequence was they were going to wander in the wilderness for 40 years. And what we read is in the very first part of the book that the census was taken for all the men that were 20 years of age and older. So there were teenagers, there were children. Those weren't counted.
Speaker 2:By the time we get to the end of the book, after those 40 years of wondering all those people that were 20 years of age and older, they had all died. And so at the end of the book, there was another census of the people that were 20 years of age and younger, that are now adults, and they count them again. So they're getting ready to go into the promised land. But the consequence of those 10 people they said can't do it, we can't do it. And Moses was saying and Caleb and Joshua, they're saying, no, we can do this, we can do this. Well, the majority won out and everybody paid the consequences for that. And so I have a sign on my wall in my house, right there above my desk, that says never confuse the will of the majority with the will of God.
Speaker 2:That is a perfect lesson for this particular book in the Bible, because the majority, even though you might think it's always right, is not always right, and so let's just think about that as a leader.
Speaker 1:Let me ask you a question before we switch that thought, because I think back of Moses. So Moses went with him right at this point, right?
Speaker 2:No, he stayed. He had the 12 spies go into the land. I see, yeah, and he was waiting for them to come back, right yeah.
Speaker 1:And give me your report? Yeah, but then when everybody went to wander for 40 years, moses went.
Speaker 2:Moses was with them. He was their guide for 40 years. I say that as a strong leadership to make that decision.
Speaker 1:Because I mean, if somebody rebels against you as a leader, as a corporation, and they say, well, I mean what's?
Speaker 1:your first thing, all right, I'm gonna fire this kid. Yeah, 40 more people to come in here and do the thing. And I was just thinking from a leadership standpoint. It was like, wow, that's a, that's a strong decision to go. You know he knows how to get to the promised land. He. So you know he knows how to get to the promised land. He's being instructed. Why, just he doesn't step across the finish line and go okay, I'm going to go this way, you go that way, wave at him and take a little white flag and, you know, tear it up and wave at him.
Speaker 2:So I was just thinking about that as you were talking that Moses struggled with that, the people were complaining and all that kind of stuff, and Moses was thinking God, these people are getting to me. It's so hard and how am I going to help all these people? I just don't have the resources in myself to do this. Okay, and then so we read in chapter 11, verse 16, that God said okay, bring 70 people of the elders of the people and I'm going to give them the authority to also help you lead. So think about that particular aspect of leadership. Sometimes we have to actually ask for help. The burden might be too big. We might think, oh, we can handle this all by ourself. Excuse me, I don't know why I'm coughing.
Speaker 1:That's all right, I'll cover you. You're just asking for help for me to talk over your coughing, right? Yeah, very appropriate.
Speaker 2:Anyway. And so, moses, I just I can't do it anymore. These people are complaining. They're asking for me. Where am I going to get them food and meat for all these people? And God said, okay, bring 70 people. Bring them to me. I'm going to take the Spirit that's on you and I'm going to share it with them so they can help you carry the burden.
Speaker 2:And so the question would be in your business, are you trying to carry all the burden yourself? Are you trying to—or do you have a team of people? Let's just say you're a one-person business, okay, do you have anybody through the week that you meet with, that, you share your burdens with, that, you talk with that, you pray with? What is the accountability? I mean, if you're trying to carry all of that burden yourself, it's eventually going to wear you out, just like Moses. I mean, he was still in the first part of that 40-year period, he was at the very beginning of that, and he was already worn out from the grumbling of the people. And so I'm thinking one of the things that we can do is to say okay, who am I going to share this journey with? Whether it's life—I'm not saying you have to get married, I'm just saying, if you're a single person, are there other people that are single? Is there a church family you can connect to? You don't need to walk this life alone. There should be other people that you can partner with, share with, share your burdens, pray with, and so the question is are you willing to do that, or are you going to try to carry all the burden yourself? Eventually it will break you down, and God doesn't want that at all.
Speaker 1:Right, you know. So one of the things that we can take about this and I was trying to we mentioned some of these stories in here and I think one of the things that really struck me that we were talking about a little bit in the show prep is Moses when he struck the rock, and I think that's when I mentioned in the beginning that there was a couple of the stories. You know that I bogged down when I first started reading this, but I want to go back and look at this one. You know and I guess that's in Chapter 20, you know that it discusses that. So that's on my reading list for actually, after the show I was going to go and pull out the Bible and look at that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a tough chapter because the people didn't have any water. I mean, you're out in the desert, so how are you going to find water? God obviously knows where it is. He instructs Moses to speak to the rock. Okay, we can get into the symbolism that the rock was Christ, and that's for another day. But instead of speaking to the rock, moses hits it and he strikes the rock twice. Now the water flows from the rock, but the whole thing was Moses.
Speaker 2:After all of this, he was just so frustrated with the people, he was so worn down from the complaining of the people that he made a harsh decision that really cost him as well. So he was not. Because of that, he was not able to go into the promised land, even though he was still the leader of the people. God said no, you know, after all you did, there's still this one thing that's going to keep you from that. I have a hard time with that, you know, sometimes that seems rather harsh punishment after all of that. I have a hard time with that Sometimes that seems rather harsh punishment after all of that. But it's really a matter of being obedient or disobedient to God in all things. None of us are going to be perfect and that's not—well, I'm not going to be perfect, I'm not going to even try. But the question is am I going to do my best to be as obedient as I know how to be Right? Yeah, so that's a tough chapter, that's a tough lesson.
Speaker 1:It is. But it got me wondering, you know, and so, yeah, that was very interesting. So there was a lot of ups and downs in numbers, you know, when I was doing all my show prep and you know, basically, you know, I guess there's some lessons that we can take out of it. You know, how can we turn some of this? You know, because we're always about how we can turn some of these in, and on the last show we talked about not look at, you know, the negatives of everything, but look at the positives. Don't look at the you can't do's, look at the do's, you know, and how you can turn this.
Speaker 1:So how do we turn some of the lessons in numbers into something we can use in a practical everyday life? Because a lot of people have problems. They're like well, you know, that was the old world, that was Christians of the past. You know we don't do that today, you know. So how can we use some of this information? You know, because I think there's. I think everything like we talked about is it's how you read, it's where you're at reading the Bible. You know, the messages you're going to get are different depending on where you add. You can read the Bible six, seven, ten times. It's going to read completely different every time depending on what your thought and where you're at. So you know what are some of the takeaways that we think we can pull out of this.
Speaker 2:I think there's many life lessons, especially about leadership and just life itself, but I think one of the first lessons for me is humility. Moses never elevated himself to be how important he is Now. When he was challenged by his own brother about it, he had to stick up and say no, God appointed me to do this. But he never tooted his own horn, he never called attention to himself. He was such a humble, amazing man.
Speaker 1:He's described as one of the most humble men on earth.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly right. So the question is in the midst of our life, do we have a need to call attention to ourself, whatever that is, call attention to our accomplishments, call attention to our business, how big it is? Do we always have to compare ourself to other people or not? Or are we always trying to feel like we have to one-up another person? Moses was never that way. He didn't ever feel worthy about that. We see that from the book of Exodus, the very beginning when God called him at the burning bush. Moses didn't really want the challenge. He accepted it, but he never felt he was worthy enough for the call that God had on his life, and so I believe that kept him humble. I believe that's one of the reasons God called him, because he knew he wouldn't be a self-promoter, and so I think humility is a great lesson, and the question is, where does that fit into our life? Are we always trying to self-promote or are we just doing our job and let you know if something, if we get attention, great, but we're not striving for that.
Speaker 2:The other thing is how do we respond to a challenge? Life is filled with unexpected challenges. You know we can have a plan that we're going to even, you know, write down what we're going to do for this week and all of a sudden something else happens. And so how are we going to respond to a challenge? And Moses, perfect example. He's leading the people and all of a sudden they start mumbling. They don't have any water, then they don't have any food, and then they complain about the food they have. So he was always dealing with people that were grumbling and mumbling and just upset at him, and he stayed really focused on the task.
Speaker 2:And so just think of a business. Sometimes we have employees or customers that are going to just be upset for whatever reason, and the question is how are we going to respond to that challenge? Are we going to blow up at people? Are we going to take it and figure out how can we best address that challenge? And I think a sign of a good leader is that they can address the challenge in an appropriate way, to the best of their ability. You face challenges in your business all the time, whether it's a travel schedule, speaking schedule, a supply issue, one of your subs is sick or whatever it is, and a good leader can modify how they're doing it, still keep the goal in mind and move forward. And so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:One of the big ones that stood out to me was the lack of the faith and vision right when the 10 people, the 10 spies, could change a whole group right.
Speaker 1:And I'm thinking that from a company standpoint, that if you have faith in your vision or you have faith of where you're going, and so many times people are swayed real easy. You know, in a lot of cases I've had, you know, clients that you know we did this one instance, you know the bathroom was immaculate immaculate I mean, this is a very expensive house and a friend of the owner's came in and said, oh my gosh, I do not like this granite, right, you know it just doesn't. It's horrible. And next thing, you know it was like we're ripping everything out to redo it. Right, and you know people are easily swayed if it brings joy to your heart or if you have a vision. I think back of the things.
Speaker 1:Dr Posey wrote a book on Noah and all his. Think about how many people just tried to sway him and told him he was crazy and how many other things you got that came out of that. But he kept the faith, he kept the vision and he didn't let people sway. And I think that's one of the big things that when corporations they keep the vision, they don't. You know they're not swayed by family, they're not swayed by other people's opinions, those and you look back through historical, those are some of the biggest companies today that have really made it through. All the naysayers that said why are you doing this?
Speaker 2:Correct, because the leader a good leader will keep focused on the goal. Now, the thing about Moses is that because of these 10 spies that influenced the entire nation to say no, we don't want to do this. Moses could have said you know what? You guys go back to Egypt, I'm going over to the promised land. But he was committed to take as many people into the promised land as possible.
Speaker 2:So, even though the vote went against him, he didn't abandon the people. He still allowed God to use him to be the leader and they wandered in the wilderness for 40 years and Moses was there with them the whole time. So he never let his eye off the goal. Even though he was really disappointed, even though it didn't happen in his timeline, even though it didn't happen the way he wanted, he never lost the vision of getting the people to the promised land. And I think that's what a good leader does they stay focused on the goal. There could be some setbacks, there could be some time issues, but a good leader does. They stay focused on the goal. There could be some setbacks, there could be some time issues, but a good leader keeps the people focused on the goal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's one of the things that if you can do that you can handle the complaints, you can handle all the stuff going on and just keep you know I always call it the broken record technique Like this is where we're going, this is where we're going, this is where we're going, this is where we're going, this is where we're going, and if you can just have it in your brain and you keep that faith, you're going to come out of here. This is a very interesting twist on this book Numbers. I'm going to have to go back and do a little research on this.
Speaker 2:I'm going to have to go back and do a little research on this. Yes, and one of the sad stories in this whole thing is the issue with a man by the name of Korah K-O-R-A-H, and he basically questioned Moses' leadership, saying why are you the leader, you know, why did you get to do this? There's other people that could do just as good as you. And in the midst of all of that, you know, moses had every right to just say well then you go lead the people and you go do your own thing. There was some significant judgment upon Korah, because—and we won't get into that, but if you want to, you can read number 16.
Speaker 2:But Moses stayed focused in the midst of all of that animosity, criticism, people questioned his leadership. Korah had a group of people that were trying to go against him. They all paid a very negative consequence for that, and Moses kept focus even in the midst of difficult times. And so sometimes, as a leader, people are going to question our judgment. They're going to question are we really doing this? Do you really know how to lead? Are you really taking this company in the right direction? And it would be very easy to be swayed. And so I was like no, we got to stay on our focus, we got to stay with our plan, and that's not always the easy thing to do, it's just not.
Speaker 1:Well, you know it talks about in there that you know the earth opened up and swallowed the rebels. Does Korah get swallowed up in that is is that? I'm just sort of curious if that was part of it. Yeah, so, yeah, so interesting, interesting read. So all right. Well, dr p, we're, we're pushing about 31 minutes here, that's. That's usually our time that I. I asked you to pull out one or two dad jokes and you know you've got 300 dad jokes over there, but you just don't have any?
Speaker 2:304. 304. Yeah, so here would be the one thing. Okay, why should you not tell secrets in a cornfield?
Speaker 1:Let me think about this one.
Speaker 2:Why should you not tell secrets in a cornfield?
Speaker 1:Go ahead.
Speaker 2:Because there are too many ears.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't have got that one.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm ready for you. What do you got over there.
Speaker 1:No, I got nothing.
Speaker 2:You got nothing. Okay, we all use computers one way or another, right? Yes, when do computers? We all use computers one way or another right?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:When do computers overheat?
Speaker 1:Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2:When they need to vent. That's a bad one. Hit the yellow button. Oh, no, that one Okay.
Speaker 1:What belongs to you but is used more by others.
Speaker 2:What belongs to me but is used more. I don't know your name. Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 1:Okay, here's one.
Speaker 2:What goes up and down but does not move. Oh, I've heard this one. You've heard this one. I know you have. I don't know, it's an old joke Stairs.
Speaker 1:What has four eyes but can't see.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know this one, four eyes, but can't see.
Speaker 1:What Mississippi?
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, okay, Of course I wasn't thinking of that.
Speaker 1:All right. So basically just to give a summary here, unless you got one more.
Speaker 2:I got one more. All right, one more. What do you get when you cross a fish and an elephant?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Swimming trunks. I was going something with trunks, but I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 1:All right, so summary Summary of numbers.
Speaker 2:Well numbers. I think one of the summary is it's important to keep accurate records. Yeah, whatever is it could be your finances, it could be your time, it could be whatever. It's important to keep accurate records. If you're sloppy in your record keeping, it's eventually going to not be a good thing for you, whatever that means.
Speaker 1:All right, keep talking to me about this. I'm working on that this evening. You're working on that one.
Speaker 2:The other thing is being humble, being able to stay focused on the goal even in the midst of challenges.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think that's a great lesson. You're going to have people that disagree with your leadership. You've got to just stay focused on the goal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think the other one is doing it. There's been a couple of things that I know that I've been slacking on that. I know I'm supposed to be doing. It's handed down by God, right. Some of the things have been out there and I've been really slack and I've been really trying to set aside a time where I can do it, and that's one of the things that really spoke to me in this chapter is, you know, let's get, get it together. Right. You got a few things you're supposed to be doing accomplishing, you know, podcast was one of them but I got a couple other things on the list that I need to be doing and I need to get that sort of more on the top of the list.
Speaker 2:Make it a priority. It is.
Speaker 1:Exactly right. Other than that, check us out biblicalleadershipshowcom and send us any good dad jokes. Apparently, we got 700,000, 800,000 of them here, but apparently we just got to look through and find some good ones. But you know we'll take some good dad jokes and I'll come with about a hundred next week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love it I love it.
Speaker 1:So join us next week as we continue down this path of looking all the uh, the chapters, uh, all the books of the Bible and and some of the lessons that we can get out of that. I haven't looked.
Speaker 2:Next week Deuteronomy oh, that's right, deuteronomy and then the next week Joshua. So we've got some good stuff coming up.
Speaker 1:I like it, so I'm enjoying this. There's a lot of good stuff that I'm finding that you know some of the stories that I knew about, but I really hadn't done a deep dive before I had to because of show prep and stuff. And I'm pretty excited about this year.
Speaker 2:I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1:I am really looking forward to it. Check us out biblicalleadershipshowcom and Dr P. Take us out with…. Have a great day, thank you.
