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Deuteronomy: Celebrating Leadership, Vision, and Legacy with Moses' Timeless Principles
Curious how timeless truths from the Book of Deuteronomy can transform your leadership style? Discover the powerful vision and delegation techniques Moses used to guide the Jewish people to the Promised Land. Celebrate with us as we mark our one-year anniversary of the Biblical Leadership Show, filled with balloons, laughter, and a few dad jokes to set the mood! Join us, Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey, as we reflect on a year of sharing Bible-based leadership wisdom and the journey ahead.
This special episode dives into the heart of leadership principles drawn from Deuteronomy, where we uncover how Moses’ ability to communicate clear goals kept his community focused and motivated. We discuss the importance of breaking down long-term objectives into actionable steps and the value of regular check-ins to keep everyone aligned. Sharing personal stories and practical advice, we highlight the significance of maintaining a clear vision and how it drives daily actions toward achieving larger goals.
As we look at Moses’ preparation for Joshua, the importance of leadership succession and legacy planning becomes evident. We emphasize the need for building the next generation of leaders, ensuring they are equipped to carry forward essential faith practices and principles. Wrapping up this milestone episode, we express our heartfelt gratitude to our listeners, share a fun debate on cake versus cookies, and look forward to our upcoming discussion on the Book of Joshua. Thank you for being part of our enduring journey of learning and growth!
all righty, yeah, uh-huh, yeah, come on, come on, all righty welcome Welcome.
Speaker 2:Welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 1:Welcome to another exciting episode of the Biblical Leadership Show.
Speaker 2:My name is Mr Tim Lansford and with me is Dr Dean Posey, hey Tim.
Speaker 1:How are we doing today?
Speaker 2:I'm excited today for today's program. This is a milestone in our history.
Speaker 1:Did you see all the balloons in the studio and everything? We should have had cake. We should have had cake. That would have been great. We have balloons and all that stuff sitting up there in streamers but we need the cake, so I didn't have time to get the cake.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, maybe I'll get one, some on the way home Just give me a cake and a fork and I'll eat it. There you go, so tell our audience, why it's so exciting today, why we're celebrating.
Speaker 1:I got more than six hours sleep last night, oh no, no, no, oh, six hours and two minutes. I guess we've been doing this for our one-year anniversary right.
Speaker 2:This is our one-year anniversary. That is so exciting.
Speaker 1:Pretty exciting, it's very exciting.
Speaker 2:I mean, my goodness and we're in this new journey going through the books of the Bible, and I think that's going extremely well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love this series and I'm glad we came up with it because it's great, it's like a mini version. There's things I'm even picking. Came up with it because it's great, it's like a mini version. There's things I'm even picking up on this. I hope a lot of people are out there picking up some good stuff on this. I think it's a great series that we're doing.
Speaker 2:I think so too, and, like I said before in my ministry, one of the number one questions I've been asked over the years is how does the Bible relate to my life today? And that's what we answer every week. Especially if you're a leader, even if you're just leading your family, maybe leading a softball team, maybe leading something else a band, whatever sports team, whatever we believe that we can give you some practical advice to be a better leader, and it comes directly from the Bible, so we're excited about that. Today we're going to focus on Deuteronomy, which is the fifth book of the Bible, but it's our anniversary, so we've got to throw in some good dad jokes. This should have been Dad Joke Week.
Speaker 1:It should have been Dad Joke Week.
Speaker 2:We might have lost two of our four followers though, if we did that, wait a minute, here we go. I have 67 new dad jokes, and he does. I do right here.
Speaker 1:He printed them off.
Speaker 2:He's got them on.
Speaker 1:He also brought the emergency dad joke box back to the studio. He forgot that last week we needed some emergency dad jokes.
Speaker 2:Because they were bad. Last week's jokes were horrible and we just weren't on our dad joke thing.
Speaker 1:So that's a good thing, but you know it's all right.
Speaker 2:Well, let me ask you a question. Did I tell you the joke about amnesia?
Speaker 1:I can't remember.
Speaker 2:No, did I, I don't remember. No, did I? I don't remember.
Speaker 1:Hey, I had that one, you had that one too, okay.
Speaker 2:Oh, so so thinking about our anniversary. I don't know why I'm thinking about this, but do you remember back in like junior high school, when you had your first crush? I remember my first crush.
Speaker 1:I have amnesia. Not on air, right? Yeah, not on air.
Speaker 2:So my fur. It hurt, you know, but what else should I expect from a 40 pound boulder on my foot?
Speaker 1:nice, nice. Yeah, now you got me thinking about my first crush, the real crush, right?
Speaker 2:so all right was it a teacher?
Speaker 1:not. You know, I did like one of my teachers. I thought she was just a cutie pie. They definitely didn't look like you know the teachers nowadays. I don't understand you know how some of it changed right, some of the teachers and stuff. But yeah, I do remember, but no, I remember you know I had some crushes when I was young but I remember the first real girlfriend and crush and all that stuff Fastest girl in school and she was cute as a button and what grade was that. That was fifth grade.
Speaker 2:Fifth grade.
Speaker 1:I remember crushes before which they would kick you in the shins if they liked you. That was the thing.
Speaker 2:Was that it?
Speaker 1:They'd just kick you in the shins. I'm like, ooh, she must like me, that's what everybody's saying. So but yeah, I remember, uh that it was one of the proudest moments where, uh, a pep rally in fifth grade and and uh, there wasn't a seat, and uh, the girl Janet, she come over and sit on my lap. I still remember that to the day and I was like the proudest guy in the entire fifth grade.
Speaker 2:I bet you all the other guys were just jealous.
Speaker 1:Yes, they were, and it defined who I was from that moment on, and what town was this in?
Speaker 2:This is up in Missouri a little town up in Missouri, so it was the little things that you remember. It is amazing how you can just remember those little moments of time, right?
Speaker 1:Yes, I remember that, just like it was yesterday. All right, let's talk about this Deuteronomy that we're talking about today.
Speaker 2:Well, deuteronomy big book. It's the fifth book of the Bible. It brings to a closure a significant portion of the Jewish history because at the very end of the book, moses dies. So we're going to talk about Moses and some of the leadership principles that he shared or that we see in this particular book. If you're not familiar with the book and I encourage you, like I was telling Tim there's a great resource out on the web called the Bible Project, and so, if you're not familiar with the Bible, just go to thebibleprojectcom. I think it's com and just there's like a seven-minute video on every book of the Bible.
Speaker 2:And it gives a visual description and an auditory description of every book, and so you can understand the themes of the book before you ever read it. But let's go back a couple of books to the book of Exodus. Moses was born to help the Jewish people come out of Egypt from being a slave for 400 years, and God used him to bring people out of Egypt. They went through the part of the Red Sea, they went up to Mount Sinai, they got to Ten Commandments, they went to the Promised Land, but the people didn't want to go in, so they wandered in the wilderness for 40 years. And now it's 40 years later at the book of Deuteronomy and Moses—basically the whole book of Deuteronomy is Moses speaking to this new generation of Jewish people who are getting ready to go into the promised land under the leadership of Joshua and Joshua is going to be our topic for next week some great biblical leadership principles, especially in chapter one. But today it's all about Moses.
Speaker 2:And so Moses speaks, and there's different things that he talks about, but the number one thing for me is that he kept the vision of the promised land in front of the people. What are we going to be doing? Where are we going? What is it about us that makes us different from every other people in the world? And so what about that? As far as a leadership principle, I mean, you teach leadership around the country, tim. So what about that? As far as a leadership principle, I mean, you teach leadership around the country, tim, and so maybe you should share with us about your experience in teaching classes and how it's important, as the leader, to keep the vision or mission of the organization in front of the people at all times.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, the vision and mission is basically the ship right, you know, that's where we're headed and I think that's what the, the benefit I think that's what Moses was trying to accomplish in here is to keep that. You know dangling that carrot. You know here, here's, here's, your options and all that stuff, and and I think that that that when you're, when you're talking about a business and the vision, if, if you know where the ship's at and I've said it in here before is you have to know your company vision statement, your company mission statement or vision, and most people don't. I mean, I've done seminars and 50 to 100 people in a room I might have one or two that know it, that even knows any of the words on it, and I think that's such a lacking in the world that we live in today is not to have the goal out there, you know, whether it's business or personal or whatever. You know.
Speaker 1:I think we just rinse and repeat. When we get up the same day, we turn the news on, we drink our coffee, we go to work, we come home, we have dinner, we turn the news on or watch a football game and then we go to bed, and I think that's the way our world is and I think that we need to get back to you know, setting goals. I tell everybody, every, every goal. You need to have a goal of every day. You need to have a vision of what your year you know, set those goals for the year and then even down to a conversation. What worked on that conversation? What, when you pick up the phone and call somebody, what are you trying to accomplish from that conversation other than just randomly just pick up the phone?
Speaker 2:and just talking to people.
Speaker 1:So there's so many things that are vision and goal-based to be able to point people in a direction and to keep them on path and check throughout the process. Sometimes people see this vision as the overall thing. It's just too big, but if you break it down into little bits, that's why you accomplish these bigger visions and goals.
Speaker 2:So basically, you're saying what is the outcome objective for your personal life, your family, your sports team, your business? What's the outcome objective A year from today? Okay, the end of September in 2025, what do you personally want to accomplish? Maybe you want to take up swimming. What are you going to be doing between now and a year from now to accomplish swimming a half a mile?
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Or what are you going to be doing a year from now, or between now and a year from now, to get better at playing piano, or being better at a softball player or a golf player or a tennis player? Or what are you going to do for your business for the next year? What's the outcome objective of your business for the next year? And it's going to take baby steps, but it's important to write those down and say, okay, this is where we're going. And I think what I see in Moses was that in between the lines. He doesn't say this directly, but what I read in between the lines is he's telling the people that they have a choice every day, and every day we have a choice between doing our own thing or we can choose allegiance to the organization and its mission. So it's like you know you get up for work, like you said. You drink your coffee, you drive into work, you know whatever. It's just like I'm just going to punch my ticket and go home, do my time and go on. Or you're saying you know what my vision is to make this organization better. I want to have output better. I want to have costs down. How can I personally help do that or my family you know we need. We've been promising to go on a trip forever. We're going to go to Big Bend National Park. Well, put it on the calendar. Start planning now so that you can actually help your family be a part of that whole planning process and so that a year from now you can say you know, we did that. Now, what are we going to do the next year?
Speaker 2:So, to me, keeping the vision in front of the people, exactly what Moses did, I mean almost every chapter. There's a few laws and some other things, but the overall theme for me, one of the main themes is he kept that vision. You are God's chosen people. You're going to have this land he promised you. You're going to go in there, you're going to occupy it, you're going to be a great people for God. But he kept that vision in front of them all the time. So, in your teaching and your seminars and working with your own business, how often should a leader state the vision? How often Is it like? Once every year? Is it once every six months? How often do you keep that vision in front of your people?
Speaker 1:Oh, I think it needs to be plastered all over the wall. I think it needs to be brought in in the meeting. We do that in some of the associations that I belong to. Every meeting they start by that. They read the mission in every beginning of every meeting. That way it gets into your head. You may not have it memorized, but you know enough words of it that you can regurgitate it out and everything be happy. And even that, as you were talking, I even think about that. I mean even a year. It depends on the client, right, depends on how deep the client wants to go and how much stuff's on the plate and how important it is. I mean some weeks. I even go down, some clients even go down to a week, and then we do a monthly goal, a weekly goal each week and then a monthly goal, a six month a year, a five year, all the way up to a 20 year.
Speaker 1:So, depending on the client, how deep they want to go, depending on how, what they want to accomplish and how fast. And all this, sometimes you have to break it down even farther than a year, just because and just because I have an accountability partner on some of my goals that we set up years at the beginning of the year, but we meet once a month and we have lunch and we pull out our goals and we reevaluate them. Are we ahead of the numbers? Are sales increasing? Well, we need to bump that number up or we're off. Why are we off? You know, what can we do to get that number up?
Speaker 1:And if you do that, you know a lot of times people set the goals and then they wait that full year. You know, but there's things that have to happen in between to make sure that you're not off at the end of the year. It's sort of like you know we've talked about, if you're off a 0.1 degrees but you're, you know you go across the room, it's not very far. But if you shoot out towards Saturn, well, you're not going to come anywhere close at 0.1 of hitting that. So it depends on how far off your goal is and how directed you are.
Speaker 2:And I'm looking across the table here in the studio and see your Stephen Covey book you know your notebook and it reminds me of what a brilliant man he was, and you know, one of his principles about leadership was begin with the end in mind, and that's what we're saying is that Moses helped the people begin with the end in mind. The end in mind is you're going to be a people of God in the promised land, you're going to cross the river, and so the question is, he kept that vision in front of people. So, if we begin with the end in mind, what is your end in mind a year from now, as far as sales, as far as production, as far as cost revenue, as far as cutting costs, as far as staff hiring or letting go of your staff, trimming inventory, whatever it is, what is your end in mind that you have? And then, what are you going to do each and every day to take just a little baby step toward that goal?
Speaker 2:I was just thinking about triathlon training. You know I got my next triathlon here on the first Sunday of October here. You know it was pretty quick, but I could not and it's a 1,500-meter swim. Okay, it's open water. Good luck with that. Yeah, good luck with that.
Speaker 1:Nope.
Speaker 2:I asked the other day can I use floaties? No, you can't.
Speaker 1:Use a canoe.
Speaker 2:But it's taken me a year over a year and a half to get to that distance in swimming, because I first started out I could barely do 100 yards and I was winded, and so one of the things that I've done in the last few months, in addition to swimming, is incorporate strength training with my swimming. With my swimming, and it's made a huge difference and not necessarily in my speed, but I'm not as tired as I am when I do 1,500-meter swims and so to me that's been a really good benefit. And so sometimes, in order to do one thing well, you have to incorporate something else to make that goal. And so I think that's what Moses is saying Begin with an end in mind, focus on the mission, always keep it in front of your people.
Speaker 1:Right, so let's talk about Moses, and he had some challenges with this group. I would say, let's think of it from a leader to you have the vision in your head, but how do you get that down to your people? And I know he had a lot of challenges over the course of the last couple books of the Bible. But even to this one, right, you know, you think at some point they banged their head on the wall enough to go, okay, maybe we should listen to the leader of the ship, you know, but it didn't really work out that way.
Speaker 2:It did not work out. We can see that in history. They had good expectations. Moses had great expectations, but he dealt with the people that came out of Egypt. All of them, but just a few handfuls, I mean Joshua, Caleb.
Speaker 2:Moses believed that they couldn't go into the promised land. It was too hard for them, the goal was too difficult, and so they said no, we're not going to do it. So they wandered in the wilderness for 40 years. Now it's the end of the 40 years now in the book of Deuteronomy, and Moses is talking to the children of these people, who all died in the wilderness, and he knows we can see at the end of the book he knows they're going to be disobedient, just like their parents, and so it's really a matter of the heart.
Speaker 2:Now, one of the things that he did to try to prevent that was to share leadership, to raise up leaders, to appoint people to help him encourage the people, to help him lead the people, because he's dealing with, you know, two to three million people. There's no way he can make all the decisions. So he gets people together, he encourages them, he picks them, he trains them, and I'm thinking that is a really good leadership model for us today. It's like if we have a goal in mind, are we doing it all ourself, or are we actually getting other people to help us with a goal? Or maybe someone else has a goal and we are helping them accomplish it. That's, to me, a really good leadership thing, because Moses was wise enough to realize I can't do this by myself. I need some help to do that. So in your business you build custom homes. You've been doing that for 30 years but you don't go out there and pour the concrete yourself, or you don't go and put up all the-.
Speaker 1:Hang the sheetrock.
Speaker 2:Hang the sheetrock or frame the house or trim it out or paint. You have people that work with you and you work with them. You work with architect to design it, and then you all work together as a team, and so your team might be one or two, but the question is, are you all on the same page?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the whole key and in my business consulting business and I've told people that left and right, you know, I don't care if you're a single person, you have a team and it doesn't matter if you have no employees, you still have a team. There's people that helped you get your job done. You know your insurance agent your uh, your, your person doing this, your person doing that, I mean it, it, you know the, the vendors, you work for the people that you know, changing the oil in your car.
Speaker 1:that's part of your team, you know that keeps you going. I mean, and if you look at it in that mentality that everybody has a piece of the pie and if you get good about delegating you can delegate out. That's just one of those things going to help and I think you know that's what Moses looked at you know, at this.
Speaker 1:I got to get some people in there. For one he knew he was coming toward the end of his life, I think, and you know he's got to get some leaders in place, because without leaders, so many times, how many times have you seen a company that the leader passed?
Speaker 1:you know big companies you know, and the leader passed and it went totally different direction and then disbanded, you know, and, or they ran into a lot of bumps. I can think of multiple companies that that happened. And and you, you got to train, train, your. I call it succession planning. I'm working on doing a succession planning for a company. You know two or three companies right now, as we talked about, and and it's, it's something you have to put in place and I think that was forward thinking on Moses' part.
Speaker 2:Yes, and so even if you're just starting a business yourself, say you're a carpenter, a painter, a plumber, whatever and you think I don't have anybody, well, you have your customers. And so I'll give you an example. We had some warranty work done on our home last week and it was something that was at our house and we had a serviceman finally come on. I think it was Friday. The guy was phenomenal. I mean, he was so knowledgeable I thought it'd take about maybe an hour and a half to I mean an hour to an hour and a half to finish the work. He was done in like 30 minutes.
Speaker 2:The problem was the company I won't say the name of the company, that's not fair. Was the company? I won't say the name of the company, that's not fair, but the name of the company. I called the office and the people. All they wanted to do was sell me new product. They didn't want to deal with servicing the existing equipment.
Speaker 2:And it was very, very frustrating. I dealt with the area manager, I dealt with different people, a manager, I dealt with different people, and when I finally got the technician to come to the house, the guy was great. But you know what. Then they sent me a survey and they said evaluate your customer service. And I said, well, this guy was phenomenal. I mean, he was good and knowledgeable, personal, professional in every way, kind you know, and. But then they said any other comments, and I just wanted to be honest. I think that's another leadership trait that Moses shares is that he was honest with the people, and I was just honest. I said he was great. It was very challenging, though, to get an appointment through the main office. All they wanted to do was sell me a new equipment instead of servicing their current equipment and and um, and so it's like, if you're just there by yourself, getting customer feedback is crucial so that you can get, um, an idea of how can you be better at your job. Right.
Speaker 1:Is there anything? Because we have a lot of people from the church that listen to us and I know that you had a few years in the church right.
Speaker 2:A few yes.
Speaker 1:More than one, and not only from a corporate business. What can a church get better about? You know, through this process.
Speaker 2:My experience would lead me to say that my philosophy of being a pastor was I always wanted people to do three things.
Speaker 2:I wanted them to be involved in worship. I wanted them to be involved in some type of study, like a Bible study or Sunday school class, home group or something, and then I wanted them to find a way to serve, and that was pretty consistent over my whole career. Now, if you go to a church where that philosophy is not current, where the people are just there to come to worship and then leave, it's very hard to steer that ship, and so you get people involved to steer that ship, and so you get people involved, and so what I found works and I think this is a good leadership principle is they have to see the leader doing what they say they want the people to do. So if I wanted people to serve, I need to be serving. They need to see me serving, whether that's at the church mowing the grass, taking care of the lawn, whether that's out in the community handing out water. At the church mowing the grass, taking care of the lawn, whether that's out in the community handing out water at the parade. Whatever it is. They need to see me serving so that I can speak with integrity about inviting them to join me. And over time, if you're at a church long enough and you continue to just encourage people to do that, you invite people to be in a Sunday school class or you invite them to be in a Bible study or whatever All you can do is invite.
Speaker 2:But my experience tells me that when people were involved in those three aspects of their Christian faith of worship consistently, study consistently and serving consistently their faith journey grew exponentially over the people that didn't, and so the byproduct of that was the fact that they were growing in their faith journey when they were doing those things. And then what was really fascinating is to see them encourage others to do the same thing. So to me, that's what the leader does. You don't just train the next generation, you train them so they can train the next generation. And you train them what to do. You train them why to do it, how to do it, and then you follow up to make sure that you know do they have any questions, they have any issues? And then it's a joy to see them reaching out to start, you know, leading other people. So that to me and that's directly here from the book of Deuteronomy Moses was doing that. He didn't want to just train people, he wanted to make sure that those people train the next generation as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I understand, and let's talk about some more about the stories here. I mean, we have the Ten Commandments that happened in here and it wasn't that there was a sort of a restatement of the Ten Commandments or reiteration of the Ten Commandments. Is that what we're sort of— Right, because it's in the book of Exodus.
Speaker 2:Now it's again in the book of Deuteronomy. So some of the laws that we see in the previous books, moses repeats them here in the book of Deuteronomy Just to remind the people, which is this new generation of people, of what the laws were. These were laws that were given to your parents. They're the same laws, they haven't changed. But now these now are making sure that they apply to you. And the goal of all of those laws and boundaries and rules, like we talked about last week, was to make a people that was honoring to God. And so every company has boundaries. Every company has rules or they should about what their employees should do or not do, what they can do or not do, and so Moses was saying okay, if we want to be the people of God, these are the boundaries that we need to live in, and he was just reminding them of that.
Speaker 1:I see, yeah. Do you think that was a hiccup for people wanting to enter the promised land? There was too many rules, or was that even a tie-in to it?
Speaker 2:Well, I would say that they were excited about going into this promised land. It had been a promise to them for generations. They were excited and they committed to that. But then, over time, you know, they just began to wonder. And, like I said earlier, you have a choice to make every day. You can do your own thing, or then you can be obedient and committed to the mission, and the mission was to be a people of God. And over time they said you know, we're not going to be willing to do that Now.
Speaker 2:Every decision we make has consequences, and so over the years of being disobedient to God, they suffered consequences that we'll talk about here in several months, about them going into exile, into Babylon. But sometimes the consequences are immediate. Sometimes the consequences of our decisions are we don't see in our generation and so we're not worried about it. But I would think that would be true with any leader to think okay, if our company makes this decision, what are the long-term consequences of that decision? If I'm going to just be a couch potato, what is the long-term benefit or consequence of me being a couch potato? But if I start walking after dinner and I walk 20 minutes a day after dinner or before dinner or whatever. What are the long-term consequences of that?
Speaker 2:So every decision we make about our own personal life, about our business, about our relationships, they all have consequences. And so when we make a decision, we're not just making a decision about the thing, we're making a decision about the consequences as well. And some consequences we can control and other consequences we can't. And Moses was saying hey, if you are committed to God and follow these laws and rules and regulations and stay within these boundaries, then you're going to be a blessed people of God. So that's kind of all the rules. I know there's lots of rules there in this book of Deuteronomy, but all of them have that basic, central theme to just stay in these things so that you can be a people that honor God in all that you do.
Speaker 1:Nice, yeah. And then I guess the last here. You know he gets into his songs and blessings and all that stuff just to sort of say, you know, let's get you over the finish line, I guess right.
Speaker 2:Let's get you over the finish line, let's cross this boundary, let's do this. Let's do it together. Now the sad thing about the end of the book is that Moses dies, and he knows that's going to happen, but he's saying hey, I'm trusting you with this person that's been my apprentice for all these years. His name is Joshua and he will be a good leader for you. I've done all I can to bring you to this point and now it's his turn to take you to the next step, and I think every good leader has a succession plan.
Speaker 2:We'll talk about more of that next week when we talk about Joshua, but that's part of being a good leader what's going to happen if, or what's going to happen when? You know what's going to happen, when you physically say you know I can't do this anymore, or you get tired or you get sick, or there's got to be a succession plan in place. Tired or you get sick, or there's got to be a succession plan in place. It might be just something you write down. Think about what's going to happen if, when, and I just think that's part of being a good leader.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's great. And then you know, by the death was sort of how that came together. He walked up the mountain and he died. You know, 120 years old. Really, I was going to ask you if you knew his age.
Speaker 2:I was curious on that, so it's interesting because the first 40 years he was in Egypt grew up in the house of Pharaoh and just a brilliant man trained in the best of everything. When he was growing up, the next 40 years he was a shepherd out in the wilderness taking care of sheep, and then he had his burning bush experience and then the last 40 years of his life, from 80 to 120, he was leading the people of God from Egypt out of bondage into the Promised Land. So the other thing is, so many times when we get to the age of whatever 60, 70, we think we're done, we're done, we don't have anything left. We don't have anything more to give. I'm going to challenge people who are my age or older to say you know what? Maybe the best years of you serving God are still in front of you, and so don't give up. God still has. If you're breathing, god still has a plan for you on this earth. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2:I was just speaking with a woman the other day and she said what can I do? And I said you know what? All the list, the prayer list at the church. Why don't you just start praying for every one of those people on the list and one of those people on the list and she said I can do that and a prayer is a powerful tool and it's something that all of us can do. It might be five minutes, it might be an hour, but all of us can pray. And so if you think I don't have anything to do for the kingdom of God, whatever church you attend, I would ask you to get a prayer list for them and start praying for the people on that list and pray for our country, pray for our military, pray for your church family, pray for our city leaders. Just pray, and I think that'd be a real blessing to yourself and to others.
Speaker 1:That's awesome, awesome, awesome. All right, well, we're wrapping on the end of our show here. We appreciate you listening and everything, and I guarantee that I have to leave at least a couple minutes for some dad jokes by Dr Posey, or he'll look at me cross ways. You know when we do that. So you know, there we, what do you? Got on good ones.
Speaker 2:Well, okay, here we go. Why did the father go down the side of the mountain inside of a giant tire? Why did he roll down the side of a mountain inside a giant tire?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Because he wanted to be a good role model.
Speaker 1:I knew it.
Speaker 2:I knew it, I was going for the yellow button.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was, you know oh.
Speaker 2:Okay, so most people wear socks, right, not everybody wears socks with their shoes, but most people wear socks. So how long should socks be?
Speaker 1:Oh, it depends what era you know 80s up to the knees and now below the things. But I have no clue really.
Speaker 2:Well, they need to be at least 12 inches so they can fit in a foot.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 2:There you go. That's another yellow one.
Speaker 1:I'll give you that one on that one. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Okay, here's one. Maybe less one for the day, Probably not, but here's another one. Why do people of all ages love elevator jokes?
Speaker 1:I have my theories on it.
Speaker 2:Go ahead and say it.
Speaker 1:Something about the ups and downs of it.
Speaker 2:Well, that's a good guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because they work on so many levels. There you go.
Speaker 1:Right. We got an up and down right, I was looking at trying to figure out some that were related to Deuteronomy.
Speaker 2:I don't have any that are related to Deuteronomy. These are dad jokes.
Speaker 1:I know, but I'm just trying to see what I could put together what the Israelites say when they finally crossed the Jordan.
Speaker 2:What did you say? I didn't hear that. What did the Israelites say when they finally crossed the Jordan? I don't know. We finally made it, it's about time.
Speaker 1:We've been wandering about this for years.
Speaker 2:We've been wandering about this for years. Gosh, let me hear that. Oh, I got a double one on that. You got the wrong button, wow.
Speaker 1:All right, one more and we'll let the fine people get out of here. Bye, guys.
Speaker 2:You know my wife loves flowers and plants of just about any kind. Okay, well, I'm an expert in picking leaves and heating them in water. Okay, it's my specialty. Nice, can I do two?
Speaker 1:of them? I don't know.
Speaker 2:All right, we better quit. Yeah, we need to hey. Happy anniversary, Sean. No kidding.
Speaker 1:We'll do that for our, for our thing. So happy one year. One year anniversary, wow.
Speaker 1:I understand check us out, biblicalleadershipshowcom. We appreciate you being here with us every day that you're hanging out with us. We enjoy all our listeners joining us each day and increasing our reach out to people across. You know, we got some other countries that are hanging out with us as well, so, biblicalleadershipshowcom, there's also a chat function that you can find us there and send us a message, but we'd love to hear from you Other than that. What else Do you got anything good words other than the final?
Speaker 2:good word. No, I just appreciate you all hanging in there, helping us grow over the last year, looking forward to another great year, and so thank you very much.
Speaker 1:I expect cake soon.
Speaker 2:Cake or cookies. Which one do you want I?
Speaker 1:don't know, I can't Cookies is really tough for me, that's a tough one.
Speaker 2:Tough one to turn down. I love cookies. That's my weakness. Chocolate chocolate chip, chocolate chocolate chip, yeah, it's just that's the way it is.
Speaker 1:Other than that, check us out. Biblicalleadershipshowcom. Hope you have a great rest of the week, weekend and all that good stuff, and we'll talk to you next week when we talk about that other book of the For the Bible called Joshua Joshua. All right, dr Dean, take us out.
Speaker 2:Hey, make it a great day. Bye.
