Biblical Leadership Show
The Biblical Leadership Show podcast explores timeless principles of leadership through a biblical lens, offering insightful discussions and practical wisdom for leaders seeking to integrate faith and leadership in their personal and professional lives. Join us as we delve into biblical narratives, lessons, and values to inspire and equip leaders to make a positive impact in their communities and organizations.
Biblical Leadership Show
Royal Lessons: Leadership Insights from the Kings of Israel and Judah
In this insightful episode of The Biblical Leadership Show, we explore the captivating lives of Israel’s and Judah’s kings, drawing out timeless leadership lessons that speak directly to today’s leaders. Through the wisdom of Solomon, the courage of David, the reforms of Josiah, and the resilience of Hezekiah, we uncover principles of leadership that are as relevant now as they were centuries ago.
Each king’s story offers a blend of triumphs and trials, showing how qualities like integrity, humility, vision, and discernment shaped their reigns. We delve into Solomon’s pursuit of wisdom and how critical decision-making can impact a nation’s legacy. David’s journey from shepherd to king teaches us about the courage to face giants, the vulnerability of repentance, and the power of self-reflection. Hezekiah’s determination to lead in the face of overwhelming odds demonstrates resilience, while Josiah’s passionate reforms remind us of the importance of staying rooted in core values amidst challenges.
This episode is packed with practical takeaways for modern leaders, from the importance of cultivating a wise inner circle to understanding the balance between humility and authority. Whether you’re leading a team, a business, or simply yourself, these ancient stories provide profound guidance on navigating the complexities of leadership with courage and purpose. Tune in to gain inspiration from the kings of old as we translate their experiences into actionable insights for today.
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Speaker 2:Come on, Tim. Welcome.
Speaker 1:exciting episode of the Biblical Leadership Show. You know, this is sort of where we're going today. Right, what do you think? Can you name that song? This is sort of our Halloween episode.
Speaker 2:The Monster Mash.
Speaker 1:The Monster Mash All right, that's a classic. That is a classic, that Monster Mash, all right.
Speaker 2:That's a classic. That is a classic, that is such a classic song.
Speaker 1:It is, oh my goodness Well hey, welcome everybody to the Biblical Leadership Show. My name is Tim Lansford, and with me is Dr Dean Posey. Dr Dean Posey.
Speaker 2:How you doing, tim, wonderful how we doing. Doing really really good, yeah, we doing. We're doing really really good, yeah, really good, yeah you ready for Halloween, you're going to go dressed up.
Speaker 1:You know you're going to get dressed up this week, or.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, I love Halloween.
Speaker 1:You love Halloween, I love Halloween. What do you normally dress up as Things I can't say on the show too much Over the years, right, I don't know, I've went to every Halloween party there was, until kids that sort of stopped all that, but I used to enter all the Halloween contests, the dress-up, costume parties and stuff for years and years and years.
Speaker 2:So what was your favorite costume? No, I can't say that one.
Speaker 1:So I've got lots of favorite ones, but some of the riskier ones are ones that usually win the contest at the local establishment.
Speaker 1:So I'll just refrain. So if you know me and you are listening to me, you know what my favorites are. But other than that, I love it, Love taking. You know, it was usually me and this other guy. We always first and second place as far as our costumes. Probably one of my favorite ones that I ever did was I dressed up as the Breaking Bad guys and I was Walter White. I shaved my head. I mean, I go all in.
Speaker 1:I shaved my head bald had the full dress up and one of my friends, he got all in costume and you know it's good when you're out, and this is when Breaking Bad was big and everything.
Speaker 1:You probably never watched Breaking Bad, right, but it's a little dark. But you know you got a good costume when that night six of the people dressed up like Breaking Bad wanted their picture with us. So you knew we ruled the roost as far as that. But yeah, that was probably one of my favorite ones. Just because I went all in shaved the head and I did all that stuff, yeah, but yeah, there you go. You've never watched Breaking.
Speaker 2:Bad.
Speaker 1:And you shouldn't Don't do it.
Speaker 2:Don't do that. It's not a good show to watch, but it really you know, that was probably my favorite, but Halloween's coming up. Halloween is coming up. Wow, just around the corner. Yeah, you're excited.
Speaker 1:I am sort of excited. Got my kids and we're going to go trick-or-treating I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't think I dressed up last year. What's your favorite candy for Halloween?
Speaker 1:What's just?
Speaker 2:on the thing. You know, if you could go and get any candy from you know trick-or-treating, what would be like as a kid? You would open the bag and you'd think, oh my gosh, I got a what?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I was sort of a Reese's guy, reese's guy. Yeah, I liked the.
Speaker 2:Reese's. You liked Reese's Pieces. Yeah, peanut butter cups. Yeah, the Reese's peanut butter cups and stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh, those are so good.
Speaker 2:But I mean, I love the Whoppers. Yes, yeah, oh. So yes, that was a.
Speaker 1:I love the Whopper I you know there's a lot of good candy out there, but Whoppers and Reese's. That was sort of my, my big thing. And then you always know the people that does the full size bars right. You know we got.
Speaker 2:We got a couple of people in our neighborhood that give all only the full-size ones out and all my kids love that house you know they they want to go back multiple times and we're only going to the exactly right I'm like that's a commitment to do full-size bars right big budget for the candy for the neighborhood, so yeah, so if you haven't gotten your halloween candy, go get it yeah get ready um Full size, mini size, whatever I'm excited. Give something to the kids that come by.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm excited because we go out in our community and it's fun to see everybody, and then we try to go in and I don't know it gets later and later. I even shut off the light and people are still knocking on the doors at 10 o'clock 1030.
Speaker 2:I'm like no, no, not answering. That Dog was going crazy. I'm like we're good. So when your kids get home, when they have this big old sack of candy, do they get to partake of any of that?
Speaker 1:They have to wait, you know they usually get to partake a little bit. You know, I let them partake a little bit. You know I let them partake, and and, uh, you know, then it uh slowly goes in the the cupboard and it slowly gets weeded out every day like a handful here and there. So it goes down slowly and as they get older it's probably gonna get a little bit more dicey this year right, you know, and you're like dad, where's all our candy? Uh, ate it. I don't know if that's an answer.
Speaker 2:Did you eat it? Sure, you don't need to have all that sugar.
Speaker 1:No, I just don't even get me started on that. So, but yeah, so hey, there we go, there we go. That's a Halloween banter. Have you ever dressed up at all for Halloween? Just went up as a pastor up on church stage. You gotta do something, you know.
Speaker 2:Years ago we had a ministry with our senior high youth and we dressed up as clowns and we had a Shriner clown in the church that taught the girls didn't need any help, but the guys needed help putting on the clown makeup. And so we did that and we went to like a Goodwill store and everybody got to pick out their own clothes, you know whatever. So every so often I pull out my old clown costume and just you know, I have an old hat and I have a wig with green hair and you know different jacket or whatever like that, and I just go as a clown hair. And you know different jacket or whatever like that, and I just go as a clown you know, kind of face it.
Speaker 1:I'm actually a Shriner. Did you know? I was in the greeters and I was actually going to get more active in the Shriners and I was going to go into clowns. I've talked to a lot of the clowns, knew a lot of them and and it was time and there was a weird time there about 10, 15 years ago that clowns sort of become I don't know. They were doing some murders and some random stuff and clowns weren't cool. No, so I backed out of going into the clown division because I wanted to drive the little cars and the motorcycles and stuff and all that stuff. But yeah, it's a long story there.
Speaker 2:But that's what my normal costume is. I don't you know, I normally just don't dress up, walk with kids or something like that. I think last year we were visiting some friends and we just walked with their kids around the neighborhood and, just you know, had fun watching them.
Speaker 1:I think we should do axe throwing and then dress up like Friday the 13th people and go in and go axe throwing and then you can dress up. I don't know, maybe we should start this show over.
Speaker 2:What are we talking about today? Kings, oh, the book of Kings.
Speaker 1:That's right. That's why we're talking so much. We forgot all about this. The book of Kings right, we got to talk about. I mean, we've had worse chapters in the book of the Bible. This is a challenging chapter. This is a challenging chapter for us.
Speaker 2:There are some really good kings and some very good examples when you talk about the prophets and those kinds of things and the kings of Hezekiah and Josiah, but a vast majority of the kings were not good, and so the question is, what can you learn from a bad leader? What do you want to not do? And so it's not an uncommon thing when you look at an organization or look at people who've gone on before you, you see their good qualities and you see their bad qualities and you say I don't want to do that, I want to do this. And so that's what we see in the book of Kings, and over hundreds of years of time, both the well after Solomon died, the kingdom was split into two kingdoms, the northern kingdom and the southern kingdom, and we see a progression of a downward spiral. In the northern kingdom, it was 19 kings and there was just one bad king after another. Eventually, year 722, the Assyrians came and wiped out the northern kingdom and eventually their capital of Samaria, and then, about 140 years later, then the same thing happened with the southern kingdom. And so it's just tragic. If you read from, you know 1 and second kings. Now there were some good kings and there were some incredible men of God who were prophets during that time. You know, you have Elijah, elisha, you know, and you have Hezekiah, king Josiah. They were incredible and they tried to get the nation back to worshiping God.
Speaker 2:And so I guess one of the questions we'd have is okay, so you get a job and let's just say you're the area manager for a restaurant and your sales have been since COVID, have not really come back to what they were pre-COVID, since COVID have not really come back to what they were pre-COVID. Then what is your role as the leader of that district or that area? Say, you have like 35 restaurants in your division. What is it that you do as a leader to help bring back your sales to pre-COVID areas? Or what if you're asked to be a leader of an organization, a company, and it's just kind of stalled out? What is it leadership-wise that you do? And I think we can learn some lessons from the Book of Kings, especially the prophets and Hezekiah and Josiah. What do you do? And we talked about this pre-show, and that is to really focus on your core values and your mission.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have to go back and look at the vision mission, where your company is going, and what we said is a lot of people they don't. I ask this, I mentioned it on the show before. When I'm teaching leadership seminars, I ask this in every seminar and 50 people in the room there might be one or two that knows even a few words of their mission or vision. And most people don't know. And I ask them if they have a department mission statement. No, no, we don't have that. Do you have a personal mission statement? No, I'm like all right. So when you wake up in the morning, you go to work.
Speaker 1:How do you know that you're even working for the good of the company, going the right direction, if you don't know where the ship's headed. How do you know what you're doing every day is helping the company, and I think there's a lot of confusion there. A lot of people don't get that process. It's just I've pulled this lever, that's what I do, I pull this lever again and that's rinse and repeat.
Speaker 2:And they don't see how it ties into the big vision of the company or what it's all about. And so I think one of the if we just looked at the role of the prophets whatever the prophet's name was it could be Isaiah, it could be Elijah, elisha, whatever prophet was involved in this period of time, jeremiah, whatever I think if we could summarize the role of the prophets during that period of tragic history in the, you know, northern and southern kingdom, it was to bring them back to God. So it's like we want to refocus on our vision and a mission of being a people of God. We want to focus on being God's people.
Speaker 2:Now a lot of kings said, no, we're not going to do that. We're going to just keep doing what we're doing and we don't care about God. And that was really true for some of them. They were very disobedient. We read more than one time in the Bible that the king was worse than all the kings before them, and it just started spiraling down, but it didn't prevent the prophets from saying no, I want to call you back to the mission, I want to call you back to the vision.
Speaker 2:We have the Ten Commandments, we have the Torah. We need to be worshiping one God, not many, and so they were really trying, in the midst of some challenging times, to bring the nation back to its core principles, and so I think that's a very good leadership thing. Regardless if your company's doing good or bad, the challenge of the leader is to keep the vision and mission in front of the people at all times, and you said before the show that sometimes you talk to companies and their mission statement is like a page long and it's like, wow.
Speaker 2:So when we did that with the church, it's like no, let's try to get it down to 10 words or less. What is our focus? In 10 words or less, so that everybody can memorize it. Everybody knows it. Now we talk about how you implement that vision. That could be longer, but this is the purpose of what we're doing right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's exactly right. And another avenue we talked about is going back and figuring out where the holes in the ship are. Right, you know. And if you're going to take over a company that's fledgling, or you know if you're becoming a king right, you know, that's one of the first things you do is figure out where the holes in the ship. What's the cause of the problem, what's the root causes, you know, if you can identify this from a company standpoint and fix it, you know, is it going to be a quick fix? Probably not, because it's something that's happened over the course of this. You know, whatever before you took over a company, but if you analyze it and you figure out what the root cause is, what's causing the downturn, you know that's one of those things. You can change the mentality of your people, but it's going to take a long time.
Speaker 1:There's been many examples of this over. You know I mentioned Doug Conant a lot. I've mentioned, you know, stories of when Jimmy Johnson took over the Cowboys. Everybody was, you know, on the landry and nobody wanted to do it. I mean, there's different ways to do this, but it isn't an overnight fix. It's building your team, one at a time. Pull one person over to you, pull one person over to you. If these people don't get on board, well, they got to go. I'm going to get another people in here that are on board, because if you know how to fix it and you, as the CEO of the company, you got to fix it. You know. You take this I'm talking corporate but think about churches. I mean, I know a lot of churches that have come in and they've had different leadership came in and you've had to fix past mistakes. And that's always a fun thing from the church standpoint because I know we have a lot of church people that listen to us.
Speaker 2:Correct. So, yeah, and sometimes you walk into a church. Maybe they've been without a pastor for a couple of months or maybe something happened to the pastor they had sick or they passed away or something and the church is kind of anxious and so you come in as the interim pastor or maybe the new pastor. The question is, what do you focus on? I would say two things. You focus on your people, you focus on the relationships with your people, and if it's a large church, you want to focus on building relationships with your leaders, whether your staff or your elders or your deacons or whatever. You want to really get to know them really, really well. And then you also want to focus, in the George sense, with the whole congregation, on the mission of the church. What are we about? How do we do that? This is what you know. You said we're about. Let's focus on that.
Speaker 2:I remember one church I went to more than one, but you know, one of the things I did just to get to know the people is I made a joke about it one Sunday morning. I said, okay, I want to visit as many of you in your home as possible over the next year. Now, what you just said is so true, you can't right the ship overnight, it takes a while. So I told the people. I said I want to visit as many of you in your home on Sunday afternoon as possible. My administrative assistant is going to call and set up an appointment. I don't have an agenda, I just want 30 minutes of your time and I'm just going to come to your home and just sit down and get to know you. And so I said if you want this, fine, sign up.
Speaker 2:If you don't want it, no problem. If you want this, fine, sign up. If you don't want it, no problem. And I said but one other thing which was a bad mistake on my part. I said when I come to your house, I just expect to have some dessert.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:Which I said no, that's really a joke. I shouldn't have said that at all, but so many people had dessert. I had to oh my gosh, I had to exercise so much because I was eating so much dessert. But the thing about it is you should have said dessert to go. Yeah, dessert to go.
Speaker 1:I have to give it to my wife.
Speaker 2:So me being away from the house, yes, but the thing about it is over time, just meeting with the people, just getting to know, being in their home, talking to them, getting to know about their families, where their children, where they're retired, where they work just how can I pray for you?
Speaker 2:Those kind of things, building that foundation of relationship, really paid dividends, for I was there 14 years at this one church and it just paid dividends the whole time. And so the question is, if you come into any organization, it could be going good, it could be struggling. One of the first things to do is get to know your people and then also focus on the mission of the church. So I think those two are the mission of the organization. If your mission is to make the organization is to make the best hamburger in the world, you focus on that. How are we using fresh ingredients? What's our delivery system? How can we improve that? Get to know those people and that will pay dividends and longer. You're not going to turn the organization around overnight, but over time the people are going to see you're really working hard to make that happen.
Speaker 2:You might not have everybody on board okay but you work with the people who are the company of the willing and just move forward.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you led right into what I was going to say about corporate leadership. You know, is sort of the next step after identifying the root cause and making sure everybody has a mission. And then you got to get into motivating and engaging your employees, you know, to make sure that they understand let's, we're going, we're going this direction, let's make a positive. You know we've, we've been down this road, you know this road. So, let's, let's go down this road and and and do good things, but after that is is going to, you know.
Speaker 1:Next thing I was going to say rebuilding customer trust. A lot of people miss this step, right, and it's exactly what you are doing by going and visiting everybody, Because I mean, basically, that's your customers, right, you know, as far as what you're putting out, you know we try to motivate and rebuild and then we have our processes. You know, all in place, redone, we think it's good, but I mean, there's going to be a lack of trust if you've been this way for 10 years and then, instantly, we changed overnight, right? So this is a build process and it has to go from your employees believing into the vision and then have your customers trusting that this is actually cemented in, and this is going to be a new way of thinking for your company.
Speaker 2:Correct, and so let's just take that into the book of Kings. So you have the prophets, you have these kings that were and it really began with the downfall of Solomon and the breakup of the Northern and Southern Kingdom, because Solomon had all these women as wives and concubines and he started worshiping other gods instead of the true God of Israel and it caused all kinds of problems and that just became worse and worse and worse over time. And the kings that followed, both the northern and the southern kingdom. And so you have these prophets that come in to try to steer the ship and they were not in a position of leadership like the king was. They were a prophet and they were saying, no, we need to focus on this particular thing, we need to focus on the God of Israel, we don't need to focus on this, we don't need to focus on that. This should be our focus, this should be our mission, to be a holy people. And the kings were just saying, no, we're not going to listen to you. In fact, there were some significant conflicts between some of the prophets and the kings, because the kings were saying, no, we're not going to do that. And so sometimes you're not necessarily the leader. Okay, you might be second or third in command, you might just be a new person, and the role is how do you help steer the ship when the leader is not wanting to steer the ship? That's a really good question and you might want to say do I really want to work for this organization that is really not doing what they say they're going to do? And I might be, but you might be saying you know what, I'll do it until I find another job.
Speaker 2:So but the prophets one of the things about the prophets they were so faithful to God in the midst of challenging times. That, to me, what great leadership. They were men of their principles and regardless of the conflict, they had the problems they had, they never wavered from their principles. And regardless of the conflict, they had the problems they had, they never wavered from their principles. And I think that's a great leadership principle is that are we going to waver from our principles when the going gets tough? And these prophets said no, we're not going to do that. We're going to still focus on being a people of God, a nation of God.
Speaker 2:The leaders, many of the leaders, didn't want to do that. A nation of God Many of the leaders didn't want to do that. Now you have leaders, kings like Hezekiah and Josiah, that said yes, we want to do that, we want to create some reforms, we want to get back to the law, we want to get back to worshiping God, and those were really good kings. But there was so much momentum going against them that over time the nation just went downhill. Eventually, the northern kingdom was conquered by the Assyrians in 722. The southern kingdom was conquered by the Babylonians in 586. Jerusalem was destroyed. So you had the cumulative effect of bad leadership over decades of time and that led to the destruction of the nation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was a tough. You know tough story, you know the way it went through.
Speaker 2:It was a tough book to read and to see all the devastation that happened because of bad choices of leaders.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they said that you know there was a couple revivals, you know throughout that, but in general, I mean my assumption is there was a lot of bad people out there for power and looking for doing things that you know it shouldn't have been done, right yeah?
Speaker 2:that's exactly right and it's just a tragic story. So if you read but if you have not read the book of Kings yet I would encourage you, don't start with the book of Kings. I really think you should start with the book of Genesis and read through so you see the history of how it even got to that place. And then the book of Kings ends with the nation going into exile into Babylon, and then later on we see that they were there for 70 years. We read, you know, ezra and Nehemiah We'll get into that later. We'll see how all of that happens and the nation is restored.
Speaker 2:But that's the focus for you know other podcasts is restored, but that's the focus for other podcasts. The focus of today is that even in the midst of some bad leaders, there were some very good people that were committed to their principles, and that's what I think we can learn from that is, are we going to be committed to our principles or the principles of the company, or the mission of the company, when maybe the leader is not? And if we can't do it, then maybe we need to be somewhere else.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly right. So do your thorough assessment and figure out where it is, figure out where the mission is, where it's going there. Be transparent, involve your team, talk about that customer building and just make sure that you don't lose sight of your goals. I think that's where a lot of this came from. Is people just left? They lost sight of their goals, what they stood for, what they were there for and why they had the title of king.
Speaker 2:Right, we see a lot of autocratic leadership in the Book of Kings where they just basically dictated of the rules and there's a time and place for that. But not necessarily we see some downfall of that kind of leadership. If that's the only type of leadership, if you don't have servant leadership, if you don't have transformational leadership, if you only have autocratic leadership, there's some really downfalls to that using that kind of leadership exclusively.
Speaker 1:I got you. So at this point we're just going to have you name all the kings in order and tell us all of them. Okay, and the northern. You want me to start with the northern kingdom and then go to the southern kingdom. Like I said in our show prep.
Speaker 2:Before there was a course I had where we had to memorize all the kings in order from the Northern Kingdom and in the Southern Kingdom. That was-.
Speaker 1:And a lot of them have the same names. Right, they do have the same names.
Speaker 2:And so you had to just name them and I thought even during that studying for the test, I'm thinking I could just look this up. But we had to memorize the kings, and some lasted a long time, like Manasseh he was a king for a long, long time, and others were king for just three months.
Speaker 2:But it doesn't matter, you had to know them all. And we see, in the Northern Kingdom there wasn't even one good king out of 19 or 20. And in the Southern Kingdom there was like eight good ones out of 20. So the majority of them were not good. Over time I think it was like 400 years. The kingdom just disintegrated because of bad leadership.
Speaker 1:Right. So yeah, I'm excited to get to next week see where this goes, because I mean it can only go up, I guess, right from where it's at maybe it's kind of stalled at the bottom for a while.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 70 years of captivity, just kind of stalled out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I understand Right, All right, so yeah. So what do you got over there? You know, we haven't said one dad joke.
Speaker 2:I know We've got to make up for that time. Oh my gosh Wow.
Speaker 1:People are like oh my gosh, yes, yes, all right.
Speaker 2:No, dad jokes Well.
Speaker 1:What do you got Any good ones there?
Speaker 2:Yeah, do you know why birds build nests? You should know this because you're a contractor, you know why, birds build nests?
Speaker 1:No, because housing permits take too long. Nice, yeah. Well, I've got the random.
Speaker 2:Halloween ones. You've got the Halloween joke, yeah why don't skeletons fight each other? You've heard this one Because they don't have guts. Yeah, I know. Oh, there we go.
Speaker 1:What's the ghost's favorite dessert?
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:Booberry pie.
Speaker 2:Booberry pie Nice yeah. What about the pumpkin one? Oh, I love that Really good pumpkin.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how do you fix a broken jack-o'-lantern with a pumpkin patch? That's a good one. I love that one.
Speaker 2:That should be an applause one I don't have any Halloween jokes. I don't have any Halloween jokes, I just got some really bad ones.
Speaker 1:Well, tell me some bad ones then.
Speaker 2:Okay, what do you call a lion with no teeth?
Speaker 1:A lion with no teeth, gummy something.
Speaker 2:You can call him whatever you want because he can't bite you yeah. What kind of music?
Speaker 1:do mummies listen to Rap music? Yes, sir.
Speaker 2:Yes, there we go. Why do cows wear bells? I don't know, because their horns don't work. Nice, oh, did you hear about the cat who ate a ball of yarn?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:She had mittens.
Speaker 1:That's pretty good. I got one more.
Speaker 2:Okay, you got one more. It not good, okay, okay. I I think it's cute, you know yeah, it's the one.
Speaker 1:You know why are graveyards so noisy? Oh, because of all the coffin I thought that was a cute one, so, all right, I'm out of that.
Speaker 2:You're done.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, I've got more. You've got a couple more. Take us out of here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so what do you ask for when you want another race in Mario Kart? You want another race in Mario Kart, what do you ask for?
Speaker 1:I'm really trying to think about this one. I don't know About a Wii match. I'm laughing. I guess I think I've said this before, but this is a good one.
Speaker 2:This doesn't go along with Halloween, but I'm going to say it anyway. How many Sith Lords does?
Speaker 1:it take to change a light bulb. I've never heard this one before.
Speaker 2:So how many Sith Lords does it take to change a light bulb Zero because they prefer the dark side?
Speaker 1:That's right, I remember that one. Yeah, all right, you got one more to take us out and we'll give the people's ears back to them.
Speaker 2:Where does Spider-Man advertise his superhero services? On his website?
Speaker 1:All right, I'll give you that one. I'll give you that one, all right? Well, be sure and check us out. Biblicalleadershipshowcomcom. Biblicalleadershipshowcom, you know, say hi to us. We love hearing from you. We hear from a lot of you out there. We're glad to be hanging out with you and we got next week Book of Chronicles.
Speaker 2:Book of Chronicles, which is kind of a repeat, but we'll talk about some leadership stuff from the Book of Chronicles and it'll be good, so we look forward to it.
Speaker 1:Wonderful. Well, check us out. Other than that, I hope you're having a great Halloween. If you go out and trick-or-treat, be safe out there. I'm going to spend a lot of time with kids.
Speaker 2:Eating their candy, eating the candy, figuring out where I can find me some.
Speaker 1:Reese's and I'll do that stuff. Other than that, Dr P, take us out, Make it a great day.
