The Biblical Leadership Show
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Welcome to The Biblical Leadership Show, your go-to resource for discovering timeless truths from Scripture that empower leaders to inspire, influence, and impact their world. Hosted by Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey, this podcast takes a deep dive into the Bible’s profound lessons on leadership, bringing fresh perspectives to timeless principles that resonate in today’s fast-paced, ever-changing world.
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The Biblical Leadership Show
Lessons from the book of Chronicles: Leadership Wisdom, Travel Tales, and Joyful Connections
After a whirlwind tour of America's breathtaking national parks, Dr. Dean Posey returns to the studio with tales of vibrant autumn landscapes, exhilarating hikes, and the awe of walking beneath North America's longest single arch bridge at New River Gorge. We also dive into a lesser-known piece of history—the Greenbrier Inn's secret bunker—sparking a discussion that blends travel with intriguing historical tidbits.
Switching gears, we unpack leadership lessons drawn from the biblical transition from David to Solomon, highlighting the critical role of succession planning and team empowerment. Solomon's legacy serves as a guide for modern leaders seeking wisdom and transparency to foster a sense of pride in their teams. We reflect on whether today's work ethic holds the joy it once did, using historical innovations like the time clock as a backdrop for this thought-provoking discussion. Our exploration of leadership continues with lessons from the Book of Chronicles, delving into how positive leadership can steer organizations back to core values.
Humor finds its place as we share dad jokes intertwined with leadership insights from Hezekiah’s story, emphasizing foresight and preparation. Our lighthearted chat touches on everything from orthodontists to our favorite running shoes, reminding us of the importance of comfort, both in footwear and leadership. We wrap up with an open invitation for listener engagement, encouraging you to share your own stories, jokes, and prayer requests with us. Our emphasis on community highlights the value of connection, inviting you to be an integral part of our storytelling journey at biblicalleadershipshow.com.
all right, everybody All right everybody, welcome to another exciting episode of the Biblical Leadership Show. My name is Mr Tim Lansford, and with me is the famous oh famous it made me in my own mind, dr Dean Posey how you doing Tim, dr Dean Posey, how you doing I, dr Dean Posey, how you doing I'm good, hey, we've got to start out, right?
Speaker 1:Welcome, welcome welcome.
Speaker 2:I thought I was going to make it by you today, but you know you did make it by me but not by me. So how are we doing today? Fine sir, I'm doing fantastic.
Speaker 1:It's been a while since I've been in the studio. I know We've been traveling and doing some stuff. We've been traveling doing some great visiting family.
Speaker 2:We're trying to catch up with some shows and all that. We're excited to be back in studio so we can talk to you. Yeah, so I mean we went through Halloween, we went through a couple things and now we're getting ready to have some fun here today. Yes, exactly right. So where have you been traveling? Tell me a little bit about your stuff right.
Speaker 1:We had a several-week trip Went to Memphis to see some family, then to Louisville, kentucky, to see some family, and Diana and I really enjoy seeing national parks.
Speaker 2:And so this trip. How many national parks have you been to now?
Speaker 1:There are 64 national parks and we have been to 52 of them now.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and every one has been unique. And this last month we were in Shenandoah National Park and New River Gorge National Park in Virginia, West Virginia, and we caught it right at the peak of the leaves turning and it was absolutely stunning, Nice, and so I would encourage our listeners to. And I heard right before the show that we have a record. We've broken a record for downloads.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well for us, right For us. What is that six now? Yeah, we broke the 10 download mark and everything. So yeah, we are just cranking along here, we're cranking along. That's really good Anyway.
Speaker 1:So yeah, we saw Shenandoah National Park, did some hiking it's just beautiful there, it's awesome and went the entire way down whatever that road is called, I can't remember it right now, but it's like 100 miles long and it's 35 miles an hour the entire way. So they do that because it's so curvy and this time of year it is so beautiful.
Speaker 2:Is that the Dragon's Tail? No, I don't remember that. One's down south a little bit more towards Blue Ridge.
Speaker 1:Yeah, blue Ridge Park was shut down because of the hurricane. Hurricane, yeah, it was Blue Ridge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Blue Ridge Park was shut down because of the hurricane.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the hurricane, yeah. And so we stopped at the very bottom of the Shenandoah National Park, went out and then went over to West Virginia to New River Gorge National Park, and it was just absolutely stunning.
Speaker 2:Walking across the bridge Walking across the bridge walk. Underneath the bridge, right yeah, so yeah, that was.
Speaker 1:One of the highlights of the trip was in New River Gorge. There is a suspension bridge, a single arch bridge that is the longest one in North America it's 3,030 feet and so underneath, when they built the bridge, they built a catwalk just to inspect the bridge and everything, and you can actually go. If you're interested, I would encourage you to put it on your bucket list. Just look under bridgewalkcom and you are put into a harness and then tethered to a safety line, and we had a group of 11. I think the highest in a group can be 13, because we took like an hour and a half to walk these 3,000 feet, and so you stop every so often. Now, what's interesting is you're about 875 feet above the water. Okay, on this gorge.
Speaker 2:So don't do it.
Speaker 1:if you're afraid of heights, don't do it if you're afraid of heights, but there's guardrails along the catwalk and it's very safe. And our guide was incredible. And so you're walking along and every so often the guide will stop and give you a history of the bridge. While you're there, all these trucks are going over the bridge, so the bridge is shaking and so we, you know, walk over and take some pictures and hear some history about the bridge and that kind of stuff, and it was just an incredible event. I mean incredible event and I would highly recommend it to anybody that's not afraid of heights.
Speaker 2:We should start a travel podcast. We should. We both travel so much we do. We talked about this for about an hour before the show going over. There we were looking at websites and hotels and all this stuff. We have a lot of fun with that.
Speaker 1:We share travel stories back and forth, and it's always a good time Now that's on the western side of West Virginia, on the eastern side of West Virginia. I don't remember the name of the town, it's something Cold Springs, I don't remember, but the Greenbrier Inn, which is very, very famous.
Speaker 2:It looked really cool. I'm going to have to do that.
Speaker 1:It is an incredible place, but you need to look at the bunker tour Just Google bunker tour and they built a bunker in the 60s to house women and men from the Congress in case there was an attack on Washington DC, and so this was a secret bunker that was built and you can tour that. We didn't have time to do that, so we're going to make that a trip to go back to and go on the bunker tour and it just looked incredible. It's underneath under the ground, underneath part of this hotel.
Speaker 2:And it just looks incredible. That hotel looks so cool, oh that hotel, the Grimbar Inn, is just phenomenal.
Speaker 1:It's phenomenal and it's been around for over 200 years. I mean it's just incredible. And it just the people were amazing, the food was good and it was just a great trip. We saw family you know our daughter near DC and then we went down to see some friends in South Carolina, some friends that we knew from college, down in Atlanta. We visited them and then we drove home. So 4,000 miles, 15 states, four national parks.
Speaker 2:It was a good trip. That's awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was really really good.
Speaker 2:Awesome, awesome.
Speaker 1:And it's always good to have a great you know someone to travel with, and my wife's awesome.
Speaker 2:Well, she is pretty awesome. Yeah, she is awesome. I'll give you kudos on that.
Speaker 1:I know I married way above myself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, same here. That's one of the many things that we have in comedy. We went to dinner, we were talking about it. I'm like, well, they were talking. We're like, yeah, we did good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh-huh.
Speaker 2:All right, so podcast. I guess we could just you know it actually works out good on this one because you know this chapter we sort of talked about, sort of you know we're going to talk about Chronicles today.
Speaker 1:Chronicles.
Speaker 2:And it sort of overlaps and I guess pulls some of the stuff we've already talked about and summarized, I guess a little bit. Is that the good understatement or a good statement about this, about Chronicles? Tell me a little bit about it.
Speaker 1:Well, chronicles, like the name suggests, it gives a chronology of the history of Israel and the Jewish people. And so the first nine chapters of 1 Chronicles are just name after name, after name after name, and you might think where is this going.
Speaker 2:I told Dr Hare that when we were doing show prep and I was looking into the Chronicles 1, I said that I knew at some point in my life I started Chronicles and I was like where? Is this going and I just kept going with names that I couldn't pronounce, and I kept going and going and I think I just finally went let's go to Chronicles 2.
Speaker 2:And I never knew where it was at in the Bible, but I just remember when I was younger reading that going. Where are we going with this? I don't think I need to have these memorized.
Speaker 1:No, but I tell you, the Jewish people have always been incredible recorders of history and genealogy.
Speaker 2:That's awesome.
Speaker 1:And it is. And so just think all of that was passed down orally before it was written, and so people would memorize that. And what an incredible thing to pass on to your children about your history.
Speaker 1:And this goes from the very beginning all the way down, so it's just hundreds and hundreds of generations and it's very extensive. And that goes to the first nine chapters and then after that we get into some stories about King David, because that's really part of it, into some stories about King David, because that's really part of it is the chronology is going down to the Messianic of King David and the Messianic line, and so a lot of the stuff that you read in Chronicles, especially 1 Chronicles, is similar to what we read in 1 and 2 Samuel or 1 and 2 Kings. There's some stories that are there that are unique to Chronicles. Some you'll think, oh, I've read this before, so don't skip the book. It might be hard to go through the first nine chapters, but after that there's some really great stories about King David. And then 2 Chronicles takes up where you know David passes away and the kingdom passes on to his son, solomon. So you and I were talking before the show and you've had experience with this, dealing with consulting and business.
Speaker 1:One of the greatest leadership principles is right there in 2 Chronicles 1, and that is what is your succession plan for your business or for your church or for whatever it is what's going to happen when you are no longer willing or able or capable of being the leader? What is your plan Now? That might not happen for 10, 15 years, but have you even thought about that? And you think, well, I don't want to think about that now. So the question would be what are you doing to train up your employees? Maybe not to be the leader, but how are you training them up to be the best employee, the best, whatever that they can be, it doesn't matter. They could be the bus driver for a school district, they could be a custodian, they could be a cafeteria worker. What are you doing to help them be the best that they can be at their particular role?
Speaker 1:And so what we saw in 1 Chronicles leading to 2 Chronicles is David made all the preparations for the temple, and then Solomon and God told him you're not going to build a temple, your son's going to build a temple. And then Solomon comes in and the very first chapter in chapter one of 2 Chronicles, starting with verse seven, solomon is so humble Now he wasn't humble at the end of his life, but he's humble at the beginning. He prays for wisdom. He just says, god, I need your wisdom to rule your people. I don't have all the answers. I need your guidance, and so what a great other principle of leadership is that? Do we expect to have all the answers, or are we going to rely upon input from other people? So that's just the first chapter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he empowered them right. He figured out what everybody's strengths are. Basically it's sort of what we do in leadership what's your strengths, don't worry about the weaknesses. If everybody's doing their strengths and you've got all the gaps filled, then you don't have to worry about people's weaknesses. You're going to have a very strong team. So he took all the carpenters and all the different people and figured out what their talents were and empowered them to give him advice and help build right.
Speaker 1:Correct. So if they were a stonecutter and they were very good at cutting stone, he wouldn't have them work on timber you know, he wouldn't have them do something else.
Speaker 1:So see, he found the people that were doing a particular job and he helped them have the resources to be very, very successful at what they're doing. And I've seen pictures, I've seen models of that temple. It just must have been absolutely phenomenal, probably unlike anything else in the world at that time, and it was so precise the architecture, the building. They took great pride in their work, and so that's another leadership principle is that are you instilling pride in your work, and that comes from the top down, or are your employees just kind of getting by, you know, just like I'm here to get a paycheck?
Speaker 1:And it's like yeah whatever, I'm pulling the lever. And oh yeah, let me just tell you we were coming back from Atlanta. It's going down the rabbit trail, but it makes a point.
Speaker 2:I'm okay with rabbit trails Okay.
Speaker 1:So we're going out and I think the little town is called Douglasville, georgia. It's just a little west and south of atlanta, so just off interstate 20, just a little bit.
Speaker 1:Uh, they have the largest um cuckoo clock in the world there, okay nice but they also have some antique clocks and one of them was like I don't even know how old this thing was, but it was a time clock from some company from, oh my gosh, years and years and years ago. And the way somebody invented the time clock, it's like okay, no, you don't just punch in. You know, even though you did that, but it's like wow, whoever invented that, to keep track of that? They just must have been brilliant, because there wasn't anything like it. You normally before then you just write it all down, but this person invented this time clock that you'd punch in when you came to work.
Speaker 1:And it's like, you know, it made me think have we lost, in some of our professions, just the joy and the pride of work? You know, are we just laying brick or are we building a cathedral? Do your employees see the big picture or do they just see what they're doing? And I think that comes from good leadership. You know the leadership wants people to see the big picture of what you're doing. You might just have a small part in it, but do they see the big picture of what they're actually going to end up doing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's where you know. I always tell people transparency is sort of real important. As a leader, you know if you can get buy-in and you're somewhat transparent on what you're trying to accomplish and you're not harboring all the secrets and and keeping everything yourself, you're going to be better equipped if, if everybody is a leader is giving you those opinions and buying into what you're doing and it's uh, it's going to be, you know, work out better for you. And that's what Solomon says. You know he, he chose wisdom basically over power and wealth.
Speaker 2:You know he could have, he could have ruled with an iron fist, but he, he sort of opened up and and said let's, let's have a discussion and hear from your people. And I think that's very important too, because the way I do it doesn't mean it's the best way, it just means the way I've always done it.
Speaker 1:Right, correct, and we see from Solomon's son that he did rule with power and oppression basically, and that didn't go over well. So when Solomon was humble and he's praying to God and saying, hey, I don't have the answers, I need wisdom, I need your guidance, what amazing things happen? And so, as leaders, if we don't know all the answers which we hopefully say I don't know all the answers I need to keep improving, I need to keep learning, I need to keep up with the latest trends of technology or my business or whatever it may be. Am I doing the same thing for my people? Am I sending them to continuing ed? Am I giving them the tools they need to succeed? What am I doing to enhance the experience of the employees or my coworkers, to help them be the best that they can be?
Speaker 1:And that's a really challenging thing.
Speaker 1:I know in the church you didn't always have the financial resources to improve your computer equipment or improve your AV equipment or to do the things that you really wanted to do, and so the question is how do you help create an environment where people look forward to coming to work, they enjoy their work, even though they might be a little frustrated because they might not have the best equipment that they can get. So that was a challenge, but that's something you work with. You talk to your people, you try not to make decisions for them, and you talk with them and say, okay, how can we make this better? You know, what can we do to help you become success in your particular part of your job? So yeah, so that's the first part. I mean that's good. And then we see the temple you know being built there in the Chronicles, and then over the rest of the book of Chronicles we see different, the stories of different kings. Now, we've heard some of these stories before, but this is a retracing of that, and so we have several.
Speaker 2:And one thing that struck me, that this wrote the positives of David when we were doing show prep. I thought that was an interesting. So he left out a lot of his bad qualities right.
Speaker 1:And this was sort of the positives of the story.
Speaker 2:I thought that was very unique twist on this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so just think about that. We always see what we're looking for, and so if we're looking for some way to criticize a person, we will always find it. If we are looking for a way to compliment a person, we will always find it, and that really comes from the top down. So if you're not the boss, say if you're an employee or whatever in your company, and you think, okay, am I going to only see the negative in people or am I going to see the positive in people? I might have a difficult job, but the question is, am I going to see something positive in it? But the question is, am I going to see something positive in it and that really does? As a leader, you set the stage for that. You set the environment, you set the whole aura of the organization by how you treat and view and talk to the people that you work with.
Speaker 2:Gotcha.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so we go through different kings, you know. Gotcha, yeah, and so we go through different kings, you know. And so, like Manasseh, he, for some people they naturally lean against God are away from God. So the leader's job was to bring them back. And just think about that as far as a leadership principle, we've talked about this very often on our podcast over the last more than a year, and that is the power of vision and keeping the main thing, the main thing. And so you know, we see that with these kings they were saying, hey, the country's leading.
Speaker 1:Maybe they followed a bad king and now they're a good king and they want to bring the country back to worship of God. So they had to tear down some of the altars, they had to do some different things to bring the country back to their focus, and the focus of that country of Israel was to be a country for God. Right, and many times they got off track, and so the role of the leader was to bring them back. And that's what good leaders do they keep the focus on the mission, on the vision of the company, and just try to keep it focused and keep your people focused on that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I got a question. You see through sort of our show prep and everything when we mentioned Solomon's son, right, but then he doesn't really show up in a lot of the Chronicle stuff, or does he?
Speaker 1:I don't remember him seeing a lot, so Well, he'll show up, but it's not ever positive.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not ever positive and because he got some advice from his friends. He got some advice from his friends and some of the leaders were saying, hey, your dad was a good king, but the taxes were high and can you reduce those? And he basically says, nope, I'm going to make it worse for you. Well, that didn't work out very good.
Speaker 1:And so I don't think he had a humble bone in his body. He might have, but we don't see it in the Bible. And so he made some bad decisions from the very beginning and that just accelerated or started the downfall of the Jewish nation. And so then you have a divided kingdom. You talk about after that, the northern kingdom and the southern kingdom. That's when it all started, right there with Solomon's death.
Speaker 1:And so then you can track through the rest of the Bible what happened to the northern kingdom. Eventually they got destroyed and taken over, and then the Southern Kingdom eventually did in 586. But there's a comparison between the Northern Kingdom and the kings and the Southern Kingdom and the kings, and so the Book of Chronicles really focuses on the Southern Kingdom and the line of succession down through the exile and through the end of the exile, and that's how that happened. So we see a history lesson of good decisions and bad decisions and the consequences of those, and sometimes we don't realize that a decision that we make might affect the future generation. It might not just be a consequence that we see.
Speaker 1:The consequence might be that it affects the next generation after us. And we don't necessarily see that, but we see that from the point of history by looking at the Book of Chronicles, and so to me that just goes back to what Solomon was praying for. We see that from the point of history by looking at the book of Chronicles, and so to me that just goes back to what Solomon was praying for. He wanted wisdom, so he made godly decisions, he made right decisions. He made decisions for his people, for his nation, because he knew that that nation would influence the world. And so I just think that's a great leadership principle always praying for wisdom or asking for wisdom, asking for input, asking for help. Now, obviously, if you're the boss, you still have to make decisions.
Speaker 2:You do right. You can't please everybody in the company, for sure.
Speaker 1:But at least you can get advice.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And I think I might have told this story before. I don't know if I'd done it on the company for sure, but at least you can get advice. Yes, and I think I might have told this story before. I don't know if I'd done it on the podcast, but I remember years ago I was at a church and we were remodeling the building and we had a committee of about 10 or 12 people and this one particular person I won't say his name, he was a great guy, but he was on our finance committee and he was on this remodeling committee as well and we were meeting with the architect and we all thought these plans were great. And then this one person said I don't think that's right. I think we need to not do that. We need to do this. And we all thought what and what he did. He made us stop and think and we realized he was right. After time we realized he was right.
Speaker 1:So that one person, because he had the guts to speak up, changed the direction of our remodeling, changed the direction of our remodeling, and it turned out to be really a good decision that he was for that. We had no clue that we needed to do that, but I'm thinking so. You might not be the boss, but the question is are you willing to speak up? You might not get your way, but the question is are you willing to speak up and say, hey, I don't think that's a good idea. I think we need to do this instead, or maybe we can figure out how to compromise on this. That, to me, is good leadership that you allow for a difference of opinion in your organization.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:You still have to make the decision in your organization. Right, you still have to make the decision. But the question is is the environment conducive to having conversations, or is it not?
Speaker 2:Right and you know, I think that's the whole key right is surround yourself with people smarter than you. You know, that's what I always strive for.
Speaker 1:Going hard for me.
Speaker 2:Really worried. We married up. We hire really good people. Yes.
Speaker 1:And it works out.
Speaker 2:How do you say his it really worked? We married up, we hire really good people, yes, and it works out.
Speaker 1:How do you say his name? Rehoboam, rehoboam, okay, so there was a Jeroboam and a Rehoboam, so Rehoboam was his and then Jeroboam was the leader of the northern part, rehoboam was the son and, yeah, he was the one that made some bad decisions.
Speaker 2:And sometimes you get those confused. So Jeroboam was north and Rehoboam was south At the same time. Yeah, at the same time, really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't know that, yeah and sometimes you get those confused because they sound so similar. You know, the spelling is almost identical. It's just that. It's just you. Just, you have to just remember. Well, there was a northern kingdom and there was a southern kingdom, and it started with the death of Solomon. Okay, no-transcript and so, but the Chronicles focuses basically on the Southern Kingdom.
Speaker 2:Interesting. Yeah, so we've got just a few minutes, but let's go back to I got down the tunnel looking down at Jeroboam, I was like, well, who's the Jeroboam? I'm going to check it out. So I'm over here on the computer searching Jeroboam.
Speaker 1:But let's go one more thing. In Chronicles, hezekiah. So the king of Syria was going to attack Jerusalem. Hezekiah saw that was going to be happening and he prepared his people for that, and so I think that's another great leadership principle. And that is that. And so I think that's another great leadership principle. And that is how far away are you watching the future? Do you see trends that are coming to your business? You're coming to your industry? Are you just like, oh, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it? Now, no one could have prepared for the pandemic.
Speaker 2:Okay, let's don't beat each other up over that.
Speaker 1:But are you seeing, okay, the trend is going to be this you build houses, you remodel houses. You look at the trends of new products that are created to build a bathroom or to frame a house or whatever it is? Or are you saying, no, we're going to stick to stuff we used in the 1970s? There's so many new innovations, so many brilliant people making stuff.
Speaker 2:So many. Oh my goodness, yes, it's amazing what comes out on a weekly basis or monthly basis, all the new products out there. It just amazes me.
Speaker 1:You can't keep up with all of it, but the question is, are you wanting to keep up with any of it? Yeah, okay, so that's where some of your people can help you do some research, because they might be on websites or in some blogs or something that you're not, and they can bring ideas to you. So Hezekiah was preparing his people, he consulted his leaders and he encouraged his people.
Speaker 2:He removed a lot of the idols.
Speaker 1:He did.
Speaker 2:And sort of tackled a lot of the problems that they'd had previous that the previous leaders and kings that just sort of overlooked because they didn't want to deal with it. He actually sort of tackled them head on a lot right.
Speaker 1:Yes, he did. And so what we see is some of the similar themes from Solomon to Manasseh, to Josiah to Hezekiah. They all realized that they didn't have it within themselves to make all the decisions, so they humble themselves, ask for wisdom, ask for guidance and encourage their people and move forward. And so we read about that history and I think there's some just great leadership principles to that.
Speaker 2:That's awesome, yeah, so gosh, we just got a few minutes. We've got to throw in some dad jokes. We cannot, dad jokes, we cannot. We've got the travel show, the dad joke show and biblical leadership show.
Speaker 1:Well, yes, we have to have our dad jokes. Yes, we do?
Speaker 2:I mean, we're out of practice on our dad jokes and we just got to see what we can do. Well, you got some good ones, you still got that master sheet over there.
Speaker 1:I've got this master sheet and he's got a book right now.
Speaker 2:I'll give you that he's flipping pages on them right now.
Speaker 1:Blah, blah, blah there you go, you want this. Yeah, let me have the dad. So we have never had a cat, we've always had dogs.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:But never take anything. A young cat takes too seriously, you know why.
Speaker 2:Why? Because?
Speaker 1:they're just kidding.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that didn't go over. Well, that's it. I'm even off my buttons right, so I'm trying to figure out where I've got all my crickets.
Speaker 1:Now, your kids are what? 10? Your kids are 10? Yes, they're going to be 10, yes, okay, so before long. Like our kids needed braces, I needed braces. I don't know if your kids are going to need braces or not, but when you go to the orthodontist, and it gives you the price of what braces cost you. Better brace yourself, you need to brace yourself.
Speaker 2:Well, I pulled out the emergency dad joke box.
Speaker 1:We must be going to the bottom of the barrel for that. We're just talking about shoes right. Yes, we were. I just bought my kid some new shoes.
Speaker 2:She's wearing her new shoes today my daughter and she was pretty excited about that. But what kind of shoes do frogs wear? Have you ever thought about that? You can think of it. Think of it.
Speaker 1:Can't take too much time to think about this one, okay, tell me Open-toed, open-toed shoes.
Speaker 2:Hey, I just got some new running shoes on Saturday. What kind of running shoes did you get I?
Speaker 1:used the Brooks Beast.
Speaker 2:Oh Okay, here's my new ones.
Speaker 1:Oh, look at the Brooks these are Brooks Ghost Max 2. Oh, Ghost Max 2. I love the.
Speaker 2:Ghost Max those are my favorites.
Speaker 1:Well, I have a pronation problem on my left foot, especially because I broke my ankle twice and so it rolls in and I've tried all lots of different brands and shoes, but I know the brooks piece is like the heaviest it's like a brick okay right but it provides so much support for my, my left foot, especially even though I have a custom orthotic, I still need that support from the shoe and and it's great shoe. So it's expensive, but it's definitely worth it you know, yeah, so we'll see.
Speaker 2:I'm not a runner, not a triathlon, but I got some ghost max too.
Speaker 1:They're comfy, they're so awesome, but you're on your feet a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they're they. And I wear boots a lot and then if I don't wear boots, then my feet are tired as I go to my, my, my brooks. So I've got all kinds of different Brooks, but by far for me, the Ghost Max 2 is my favorite.
Speaker 1:So the new Beast is called the GTS 24. It's like, oh my goodness, they've been doing this for 24 years. I think I had the Brooks Beast 1.
Speaker 2:Right, I've been wearing them that long. Nice, wow, I got a construction one, okay, okay, okay, here we go. What are painters? What are painters do when they're cold?
Speaker 1:what do painters do when they're cold?
Speaker 2:I have no idea put on another coat, oh that was a good one. Oh my goodness yes, there we go. I got the rim shot button there. All right, you got one more in. I can't have the same amount of you.
Speaker 1:You're usually the dad joke king. Here's one last one.
Speaker 2:One last one.
Speaker 1:Why do bees have sticky hair? Oh my gosh, I've heard this one before. I do not know Because they use a honeycomb.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's appropriate for that one. All righty Well, thank you guys. Be sure to check us out, biblicalleadershipshowcom, biblicalleadershipshowcom and send us a text. We've had some listeners reach out here. I've had a couple of listeners, one of your old Congregational members Congregation I was trying to think of listeners.
Speaker 2:One of your old congregational members reached out, so we're excited to reconnect you there. And, yeah, we've had a couple other people give us some dad jokes and tell us some stories and prayers that they'd want us to pray about. So reach out to us, send us a text. You can send us a chat over there as well. Biblicalleadershipshowcom. And, as always, dr Pete, good us a text. You can send us a chat over there as well. Biblicalleadershipshowcom. And, as always, dr P, good to see you, glad you're back safe and take us out with. Make it a great day. Make it a great day.
