The Biblical Leadership Show
Inspiration. Wisdom. Leadership from a Higher Perspective.
Welcome to The Biblical Leadership Show, your go-to resource for discovering timeless truths from Scripture that empower leaders to inspire, influence, and impact their world. Hosted by Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey, this podcast takes a deep dive into the Bible’s profound lessons on leadership, bringing fresh perspectives to timeless principles that resonate in today’s fast-paced, ever-changing world.
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The Biblical Leadership Show
Holiday Wisdom: Unconventional Meals, Leadership Insights from Proverbs, and Festive Humor
Ever had spaghetti and pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving dinner? Dr. Dean Posey shares this unusual holiday meal along with Tim Lansford's stories from his family road trip to Chicago, highlighting the joys and stresses of the season. We dive into the festive spirit with discussions on Christmas preparations and the importance of cherishing time with loved ones. Dean also provides a candid health update, turning a recent basal cell skin cancer diagnosis into a lighthearted moment and a reminder of the importance of health vigilance.
We venture into the wisdom of Proverbs, exploring how a chapter-a-day habit can lead to profound spiritual growth. Highlighting the significance of vision, inspired by Proverbs 29:18, we discuss its crucial role in leadership and motivating teams to prevent stagnation. Integrity is also on the table, as we stress its foundational importance in leadership, underscored by biblical insights. The conversation weaves through maintaining honest communication and setting examples that foster trust within organizations and communities.
Adding a sprinkle of humor, we reminisce with father-son dad jokes and childhood tales from Albuquerque, all wrapped up with holiday indulgences and post-Thanksgiving detox plans. We celebrate small personal victories, like mastering homemade pie crust, while looking ahead to recovery from surgery and athletic goals, like a potential triathlon. Our heartfelt gratitude extends to our listeners, encouraging everyone to prioritize self-care during this festive season.
all right, all right, welcome, welcome, welcome. Welcome to another exciting episode of the Biblical Leadership Show. My name is Mr Tim Lansford, and with me is the doctor.
Speaker 2:Dr Dean Posey.
Speaker 1:Dr Dean Posey.
Speaker 2:How are you doing? I'm doing really good. How was your turkey day?
Speaker 1:I've gained some weight since the last week Diet went to nothing.
Speaker 2:But yeah, other than that it's hard to be on a diet during the holidays. It is, let's just be honest, it is.
Speaker 1:But it's fun and I had time. We went up to Chicago, did a little road trip and visited a wife's family. Good and excited to be back, Rolled in late last night and had my fill of everything.
Speaker 2:So I'm ready to be back in Texas. Yeah, we had a great week, so my mother-in-law came over for Thanksgiving. We had non-traditional, but we had spaghetti and pumpkin pie.
Speaker 1:You said you were going to do it. We did Spaghetti and pumpkin pie. It was really good. We had meatballs and turkey and ham. We had all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2:And then after that the next couple of days we decorate the house for Christmas. So we like to get that done right by the Thanksgiving weekend, just so we can enjoy it for a month.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:You know, and kids are coming in, like the week of Christmas, which will be we'll have a great full house and it'll be fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, my wife hasn't told me, but I guarantee my honey do list this week is putting up Christmas stuff Cause I rolled back in the neighborhood. Like you know, it was after a minute around midnight last night and you know all the lights were on everything's decorated a lot of houses in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2:And she just says she's like, like oh, it would be so nice if our house had lights on it. It's coming. It's coming within the next couple days.
Speaker 1:Let's get up in the attic, get these down and you need to get the busy. So oh yeah, but that's that's sort of where we're at. You know, it's exciting I it's always time to spend time with uh family and friends.
Speaker 2:It is, you know, and uh, that's part of what holidays are all about spending time with family and friends. Yes, it is, isn't it, you know, and it's a good thing. That's part of what holidays are all about spending time with the people you love Kids.
Speaker 1:We get to drive through a lot of snow coming back and winter weather and all that stuff, so the kids got a full dose of everything you know, family and hanging out and playing in the snow.
Speaker 2:Well, that is really really good, really good, really good, really good, yeah, so yeah, so just, a side note.
Speaker 1:Um, you can't see it because obviously we're on a podcast. Yes, he didn't know. I had this teed up. Yeah, so we have rudolph. Yeah, so a little health update.
Speaker 2:Um, I was. I had a biopsy on my nose here about a month ago and came back with a basal cell issue of skin cancer, and so I'm going to have some surgery done the first part of the year, but for the last 14 days I've had to put this chemo cream on my nose because they wanted to get rid of all the other potential cancer issues pre-cancerous stuff and so I just finished that on Saturday and the dermatologist did say it's going to turn your nose red. Well, it did.
Speaker 1:And it looks like a bad sunburn.
Speaker 2:So yes, and so here's Rudolph here in the studio today. I've got to wait for a month. I've got to see the doctor tomorrow, the surgeon that's going to do the surgery. I've got to see him tomorrow, but they said I have to wait for a month for my nose, the skin on my nose, to heal before they can do the surgery. So that's going to be sometime in January. Don't know the date yet. I'll keep you all up to date. And so that's going to happen.
Speaker 1:But right now Do you ever know the rapper Humpty?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:See, we need to play Humpty Dance for you because he covered up his nose. He always had this big red nose and stuff. So he's got this Humpty rapper back in the day 1990s.
Speaker 2:I don't know if this is going to happen with our family or not, but they have been threatening to everybody. Get a big Rudolph nose, like one of those big red clown noses, and put it on, just so I'd feel better.
Speaker 1:Nice yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I'll feel better.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you'll feel better, but you're embracing it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm embracing it. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1:We have a nose made for radio right, yes, I do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, someone told me I have a great face for radio.
Speaker 1:Right, exactly.
Speaker 2:But here's the issue. I think we can all learn from this. If you have even a hint of a health issue. Okay, because, about I guess it was about two months ago, maybe two and a half months ago I went to the dermatologist for my just regular checkup and she said, hmm, what's that on your nose? And I said, well, it just looks like a little bump. And she said, well, I'm going to biopsy it and let's just make sure it's nothing. Well, it was something. And so I'm thinking any health issue you know, whatever it may be it could be like skin cancer, like I have, or any other issue it's so important to be proactive with your health, because if you put it off too long, then it can have some issues that you don't want to have, and so it's always good to be proactive with your health and um, so doing that, um, and this is nothing compared to what some people go through yeah, one of my, uh, one of my clients.
Speaker 1:She just had a full nose reconstruction. Basically they had to take out pretty much a good chunk of that. So, yeah, so I just had to reconstruct everything. So she just went through it last month.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but anyway, no matter what your health issue is. It could be skin cancer, it could be something wrong with your insides, it could be whatever. Just be proactive, go see your doctor and get it taken care of.
Speaker 1:I like it.
Speaker 2:Before it becomes a real, real problem.
Speaker 1:I think you've got one body. You got to take care of it. Yes, exactly right. So what are we talking about on this fine day?
Speaker 2:We're talking about the next book in the Bible. So last week we talked about Psalms, today we're going to talk about Proverbs, proverbs, and so let's just give a kind of a little lesson on biblical structure. So Proverbs is what's called part of the wisdom literature of the Bible. So the wisdom literature is different than the law, which would be the first five books of the Torah. It's different than prophetic books, like you know, like Ezekiel or Jeremiah Isaiah. It's not a prophet, it's not a history book, it's not like Joshua or Kings or Chronicles or anything like that, or Nehemiah or Esther. It's not the Psalms, it is wisdom.
Speaker 2:And so you have Proverbs, ecclesiastic and Job as a part of the wisdom literature of the Bible.
Speaker 2:And so the wisdom literature is there to help us not just learn more about life, but also learn more about God.
Speaker 2:And so if you look at the Proverbs, especially right in the middle of the book, there is just hundreds of incredibly wise teachings that so much of it just applies to our life, even though these were written thousands of years ago. Still very, very good, and there's 31 chapters of the book of Proverbs. And so if you're not reading the Bible on a daily basis, or even if you are one of the book of Proverbs, and so if you're not reading the Bible on a daily basis, or even if you are, one of the things that many people do is they read one proverb like chapter one on day one of the month, chapter two on day two of the month, chapter three on day three, and so every month they're reading through the entire book of Proverbs, and that's just a good habit and there's so much wisdom in that that the more you read, it's like just digging deeper into the wisdom of God, and so I would just encourage our listeners to do that if you want to learn.
Speaker 1:So this is the third, so you only have a couple that you'd have to catch up on, or you could take this and make this a New Year's resolution. Yes, exactly right Start straight up if you don't want to reread the first couple and all that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just start and just say, hey, I'm going to read one proverb, like for me, I read one chapter of the Old Testament, one chapter of the New Testament every day, and so if you want to do that, or if you want to just add to that, which would be very easy to do, it'll take five minutes. And you don't read to, just read it, just to check it off the list. You want to read it to absorb the wisdom. And the Bible is not just about gaining information, it's about transformation. About gaining information, it's about transformation, and so the goal, one of the goals, I think, of the Scripture is to help us be transformed more like Jesus. And so by doing that, by reading the Proverbs, we can begin to think okay, what would it be like for me to have a more godly life? And Proverbs is a great way to begin to learn how to do that.
Speaker 1:All right, I got a question. Sure, highlight in writing in your Bible versus not. I hear both sides. Right, some people I mean it's marked up, I mean you can't find a dry spot on there to even write a hello on there. And then other people are like, no, this is.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, my personal preference right now is I underline in my Bible, I write notes to my Bible. Right, I used to not do that, but then the more I read, sometimes there would be like, wow, that like I might be going through something or something's on my mind and I read a passage of Scripture that really speaks to that. I will actually underline that passage. I might even put the date by it and then write down why that's so important, so that when I read that passage again another time could be a year later or whatever then it's like oh yeah, I remember that. So for me, writing or not just underlining, writing notes in my Bible to me is a reminder of God's faithfulness, of insights I have about the scriptures that have helped me become a stronger person in faith.
Speaker 1:Right, I'm just curious. We go back and forth because I hear a lot of different things and I don't know what you hear on that side or not.
Speaker 2:I just see it with sitting in the stairs and some people say, no, it's too sacred of a book, I don't want to write it. Well, that's their prerogative.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I used to feel that way and then I realized, no, there's so much I'm learning that if I write it down in my Bible then I can remember that instead of having to look at another book.
Speaker 1:So yeah, fair enough.
Speaker 2:All right, so Proverbs, proverbs. Let's just skip toward the back of the book, chapter 29.
Speaker 1:Chapter 29.
Speaker 2:Proverbs 29, 18. This might be one of the most quoted sentences in the entire book of Proverbs. Okay, so in the King James Version it says this where there is no vision, the people perish. Now, a preacher joke is about this verse when there is no vision, the people turn into a parish. Okay, all right, but what a great leadership principle. There's so many great leadership principles in the book of Proverbs.
Speaker 2:We're going to focus on this one right now because it's so powerful. We've talked about it quite a bit in our podcast over the last year, and that is the importance of the leader setting the vision. What is going to happen with your organization? Let's just say, what is going to happen with your family? What's going to happen with your business? Maybe you're a part of a neighborhood organization, you know an HMO or something like that, a softball team. What is the vision? What is your outcome objective for that particular organization? Whether it's just yourself and you're a mom-and-pop bakery, or you're in charge of 1,000 employees, what is the vision for that?
Speaker 2:And to me, that is such a powerful lesson that if you don't have a vision, if you don't say, hey, this is where we're going over the next year, or two years or three years. This is where I feel we are headed. If you don't have that, it's so easy to just kind of have stagnation in your organization. People don't really know what the purpose is, it's hard to get people motivated and those kind of things. So, tim, why don't you just jump in that? As far as you know, you've been a home builder for a long long time. Right, if you didn't have a vision of what a house is going to look like when it's done, just like okay, carpenters, you do whatever you want, plumbers, you do whatever you want, how would that be?
Speaker 1:That's just a great vision in general, right.
Speaker 2:Just do whatever you like. Do whatever you feel like.
Speaker 1:Whatever, you put the doors where you want, you know.
Speaker 2:Put the windows where you want. Put the windows where you want. Yeah, oh, you mean no windows, that would actually be a fun project.
Speaker 1:Have some people just come together, maybe we can have some fun on them. I mean, I can do something with that, you know. But yeah, I mean, here's the thing you have to have that compelling vision inspires, you know it, unites teams. Make sure you're on the same page and and you get the shared goals, your shared vision, your shared timeline. You know, and that's that's what you're trying to accomplish. And and and I think that's where they're going is you have to have this because if you, if you're, everything's in the line. I tell people, you know, if, if you're your personal mission statement and your department mission statement, or your company mission statement, and then the overall company mission statement, they're all in line, then everything's happy, right, you're working towards the greater good. But if you don't know what one side is doing compared to the other side, then it's never going to work out good for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so let's just take home building for just a minute. So someone calls you. Let's say, someone calls you this afternoon and says hey, Tim, I want to hire you to build us a home. You're not just going to go off and design.
Speaker 1:The phone lines are open now.
Speaker 2:You're not just going to go off and build something and they have no input in it.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:You're going to sit down with the family. You're going to sit down with the architect. You're going to sit down with the family. You're going to sit down with the architect. You're going to brainstorm and say, okay, this is kind of what we're thinking, and then the architect will sit there and draw it out. Then you'll think, no, that's not exactly how I want it. So it'd be a while a process. But to me, what a great lesson for any organization and that is get input. If you're new to the leadership, you want input from your staff. You want input from your coworkers, your employees. It's like, okay, you've been here like 20 years, I'm the new guy, I'm the new boss. Where do you see us going? Where do you see us moving in the future? Now, it might be up to you to actually make that decision right, but it's not a bad thing to get input from the people so that you can have a knowledge of where you want the organization or where you feel the organization should go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean that just gives you that little, that little dot on the wall that you can throw the dart at, you know. So we're all working towards that. And and if, if we can provide clarity, if, if a homeowner can provide clarity to me, I can provide clarity down to my people and make sure we're accomplishing that, if, if we've had jobs that we had no clarity, I mean it's pretty much, tim, just do what you want. I'm like, well, I don't live there. I mean, no, it's fine, we trust you. I'm like it's not really a happy happy. You know, just pick the paint colors. Again, I don't live there, but I'd paint, pick them and they're like yep, that's what we'll go with, and your door here and we're going to do this, and this is kind of tough. Yep, okay, and it was a very interesting project.
Speaker 2:I had one of those.
Speaker 1:I literally just picked out things for their house and just they were happy with it, everything. But yeah, but if you're able to get that information to you and you can take that information and disperse it to all the people under you and that gives a common goal, and then we're all on the same page and I guarantee you're going to have a much smoother project and or relationship, with everybody working towards the same goal.
Speaker 2:Right, and it's important to know and to remember that the larger the organization, the longer it takes for that vision to go down to everybody, you know, to upper management, you know mid-management, you know whatever. And so it's important that you really think about the vision and now that we're coming up on the new year, you know 2025 is going to be just around the corner.
Speaker 2:Think okay, what is your vision for 2025, 26, 27? You don't want to change it every year because by the time you change it, not everybody has incorporated that into their mindset, and so it's important to stay with that for a while. So everybody's on board, and the more people that are on board, then the better the organization is going to be, and you want to make sure that everybody not just buys into it, but understands their role in accomplishing that vision.
Speaker 1:And that's so of those things that a vision needs to be constantly reemphasized. I guess what I'm saying is, in every seminar I do, out of 50, 100 people in a room, there might be one or two that know their vision statement, their mission statement of their company. I've said it here many times and it's a very sad reality Most people don't know, so make it easy, make it short, make it, even if it's values.
Speaker 1:Just have something where you can put it in people's head, because a lot of people they don't know, they don't have a clue where the company's headed, they're just showing up to work, doing it in their own little world, doing their own little section of it, and companies could be much more successful if they would just listen to that little tidbit of advice.
Speaker 2:Correct. And so it's like not only do you want everybody to know the vision, but how does my work on a daily basis make that vision a reality? Right, and that takes time, you know. You might have to sit down with each person, if you're a small organization, and just say, okay, let's talk about this. How can we tweak what you do? Or maybe what you're doing is perfect, but if it's not, we can tweak it just a little bit.
Speaker 2:So you stop doing this thing and start doing this thing, which is more in lines with the vision of the organization.
Speaker 1:Right, I like it.
Speaker 2:Well, that's a great leadership principle from the Book of Proverbs. There's another one. I think that the theme, one of the main themes, of this book is the issue of integrity. Integrity not just before God, but before other people. And so I was reading and I was telling Tim this before during our show prep that I read a survey by the Robert Half Management Resources, and in their survey they said that 75% of employees that they interviewed said that, hands down, integrity was the most important attribute in a leader, um, more than fairness, decisiveness or strategic mindset, um and um. And so that was to me amazing statistic that the, the integrity of the leader, is what the people under that leader are looking for most. Yes, they need a vision, yes, they need clarity, yes, they need a decisive person, not necessarily autocratic, but decisive, but they really want someone with integrity. And so the Bible, especially in the book of Proverbs, really focuses on that. And so here, just one, proverbs 10, 9, says the one who lives with integrity lives securely. But whoever perverts his ways will be found out.
Speaker 2:And so it's just talking about the importance of being real, the importance of having integrity on a day-to-day basis and realizing that it's what you do, what you say, what you don't do, what you don't say. People are watching the leader, they're always watching the leader, and one mistake can set you back for a long time in the eyes of the people, yeah.
Speaker 1:Another one on integrity I have down is Proverbs 11.3. It talks about the integrity of the upright, guides them right, but the unfaithful are destroyed by their duplicity.
Speaker 2:Yes, that too yeah, that too yeah. Proverbs 11.3. Yeah, the integrity.
Speaker 1:You know it's the cornerstone of effective leadership. You know when you want to look at it that way. So I think integrity is just one of those things that, as you said, that you know people they want to have. I've left companies before because I didn't feel that the owner had integrity. You know it was a great job that the owner had integrity. You know it was a great job. I was making great money back in corporate, but it just did not have integrity, the values and we've talked about it and it wasn't worth it.
Speaker 2:Yes, here's another from Proverbs 28.6. It says this Better the poor person who lives with integrity than the rich one who distorts right and wrong. Wow, that is powerful, that is really, really powerful.
Speaker 2:So let's just talk about integrity of our words, you know. Integrity of our actions, integrity. Here's another one Integrity of our tone of voice. Just the tone of voice that we use with our employees it could be at a staff meeting Just the tone of voice is so important that we just make to be sure that we are communicating with integrity. We're not slamming people, we're not putting them down.
Speaker 1:Tone of voice always leads me into body language, because I teach body language and you know it's the whole package right? The tone of voice, how you're presenting it with your body language. Are you putting mixed signals out in the world when you're talking to your people? You know all those things will put that little doubt seed in somebody's head and you want to be able to avoid that.
Speaker 2:Yes, somebody's head and you want to be able to avoid that? Yes, and so one of the things that I think is important as far as this issue of integrity is okay. Say, for example, you have one of your people could be coworker, could be employee, whatever, but you're in charge of them and they're not doing their job. Well, they're just not and you know that, or you find out about it. Here's the thing that just drives me crazy is when people correct another person in public instead of calling them to the office and talking about it in private. When you do that to someone in public, what does that communicate to the other people that are listening? It's like wow, that could happen to me someday. And sometimes the person who you're criticizing doesn't even know that they're doing something wrong, and then all of a sudden, you call them out in front of other people. That, to me, has no integrity at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it's, you know they always. You know I say that and and here's the one of the reasons you know that's very, very important to that. It doesn't matter if this person is the person that needed to be disciplined, it's the person needs to be fired. There there's a something happens on our human brain that you'll defend the weak if they're getting yelled at and all that. So some of your number two, three and four best employees and this is number 12, but he's getting yelled at the mentality of two, three and four a lot of times will change, and sometimes you can change it through groupthink, where they'll start defending and they'll start thinking, oh, they have not. And it changes the whole department.
Speaker 1:I've had a lot of things I've done on executive coaching and stuff that they did. This exact thing is they yelled at somebody in front of everybody and that changed the whole department. So we had to work hard to come up with a plan for this lady to be able to get her department back, because she'd lost control of her department. They had no faith in her and they didn't really want to work for her anymore. So it was very interesting the way that works in our human brain.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we have to be very careful because let's just say, we just got the report of the last quarter profits or the supply chain is something, and we just got a report five minutes before we walk into a staff meeting and we're upset, we need to be very, very cautious that we don't let that emotion filter into our staff meeting and then blow up at somebody, because it could take us a long time to regroup, like you said, and to make that right. It just does, yeah, and integrity I mean we to make that right. It just does.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and integrity, I mean we can take that from even a different standpoint. Just integrity in the church in general. You know I've known churches and I'm sure you've had stories where just church, the overall big picture of integrity or not, versus integrity of the churches of the world, you know, could get a bad rap on that, you know. So you can even take it bigger than just one person's integrity.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly right. So this like the integrity of your not just your person but, integrity of your business.
Speaker 2:Are you known as someone who rips people off? Do you say one thing and then charge them something else? You know, to me that's so. That's a whole thing. And really to me it starts from the top down, and so whoever the leader is sets the tone for the integrity of the organization, and if there's a history of abuse or whatever, it could take a while to get all rid of that, but it really does start from the top down. That's one reason why it's so important for the leader to have integrity.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Wow, I know, look at that Look at that.
Speaker 2:We haven't even had one dad joke. This entire time I've got a joke. My boy pulled out on me. Okay, you mean like over this last weekend.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a couple of days ago. Okay, I'm ready. He comes up. He goes, dad, dad, I go. Yeah, he was all serious. He goes. Do you want to hear a construction joke? And I'm like well, yes, I want to hear a construction joke. He goes okay, oh, wait a second, I'm still working on it.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's good.
Speaker 1:That was pretty good.
Speaker 2:He set it up and everything.
Speaker 1:I was like, wow, look at you. I said you can do better on.
Speaker 2:That's really good.
Speaker 1:So yeah.
Speaker 2:So, anyway, I was still working on it. Way to go, luke. That's awesome, my goodness.
Speaker 1:I don't know where he picked it up, but that was a good one.
Speaker 2:That was a good one. I don't know, Maybe he got it from the emergency dad joke box.
Speaker 1:He might have got it from the emergency dad joke box.
Speaker 2:Okay, I think we've already said this one, but I'm just pulling from the dad joke box right now. What do you call a potato that wears glasses?
Speaker 1:Potato that wears glasses. Potato that wears glasses?
Speaker 2:I do not know a spectator, I've heard that, I know you've heard it, I think we've said it about four times.
Speaker 1:I was like wait a second. I've heard that one before. I was just there. I'm seeing if I had any good ones other than that. That that was my joke of the week really. You know, that was the that was than that. That was my joke of the week really.
Speaker 2:That was it.
Speaker 1:I mean, that was my joke of the week. I just thought that was such a great joke.
Speaker 2:I was all excited about telling you that one. I've got some good jokes about umbrellas, but they usually go over people's heads.
Speaker 1:Of course they do. Of course they do.
Speaker 2:Oh yes.
Speaker 1:I was sitting there, I had a you have another one. No, no, no, no. I was looking for something else. I was looking, uh, I thought I had a uh, uh, a funny one to tie into Proverbs that I'd wrote down. I was checking it was that one, but I don't know something about. I thought it was something about Proverbs, about fools and something that ties into jokes, so anyway we'll just let that one go.
Speaker 2:Alright, what else you?
Speaker 1:got on that emergency dad joke. Probably one or two more. Let's just one more. Here we go. Oh yeah, all right, what else you got?
Speaker 2:on that emergency dad joke. Probably one or two more. Let's just one more. Here we go. Oh yeah, Did you hear about the man that lost his job at the canned juice factory? He just couldn't concentrate.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, Wait, you know.
Speaker 2:Oh no, that's not even the right button.
Speaker 1:I hit two of them at the same time.
Speaker 2:Oh, did you hear? Last night I had the strangest dream. I had the strangest dream. I dreamed about being a muffler, A muffler.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I just woke up exhausted. All right.
Speaker 2:I give you that one I sort of like that one. You like that one Every once in a while.
Speaker 1:You know I got to pull something out there. That's great. So all right, I don't know. One more.
Speaker 2:You know, do you remember growing up? So when we were growing up, I grew up in Albuquerque, new Mexico, and a certain time of year our yard was full of clover and we would pick the clover and tie it into knots, one after another, and make a clover chain across the street, literally. I mean, this thing was like 20 feet long and one kid would stand on one side of the street and the other kid and we didn't have that many cars, um, coming down our street. But when we saw a car, we would lay this, this, the clover chain, across the street and hold it up and the cars would just stop and we we'd say, no, go on, go on, go on. And they would finally go through the clover chain and break it and we would cheer and all that kind of stuff. Well, that led me to this one last joke. Okay, you know why you should never iron a four-leaf clover? You know a four-leaf clover is supposed to be good luck.
Speaker 1:It is Okay.
Speaker 2:So you know why you should never iron a four-leaf clover.
Speaker 1:I do not.
Speaker 2:Because it's better if you don't press your luck. Yeah, that's appropriate, right there. That's great I. I I was the four leaf, uh, clover guy I I could find. I found so many of those oh, my goodness, I always put them in the books and you know, press them, yeah, and all that stuff and just I keep opening books all the time. I'm like oh look for at least we could hardly ever find. Oh my gosh, but we looked. Yeah, we a lot, but we never could find one.
Speaker 1:I love that stuff. My brain just went boom. I still, even when I walk a little clover past, it's got like the analytics going in my brain. Trying to find a poorly-floated yeah just looking down, I still find them all the time. Anyway, well, you know, here we go. We got Thanksgiving belly, we're going to detox this week. We need two weeks of detox, right, so we can get ready for the holiday season and stuff.
Speaker 2:You know the pumpkin. I actually made a pumpkin pie. I had a lesson on pie crust making.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:Yes, from our back fence neighbor who is an incredible cook. So she came over to the house and taught me how to make pie crust from scratch. So that was my first pie crust from scratch. Normally I would just buy it and roll it out. And then I had a pumpkin pie, you know, from scratch. And there was only one problem with that pumpkin pie.
Speaker 1:What's that?
Speaker 2:It wasn't big enough.
Speaker 1:It didn't last, it wasn't it disintegrated? I mean it was like it was gone.
Speaker 2:I mean it was like gone. It's like I should have made two of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, I didn't do any pumpkin pie at Thanksgiving because they had a banana cream and then they had chocolate pie and I love a little bit of banana cream with chocolate pie and take a little bit on each bite.
Speaker 2:So it's banana chocolate, that is like my mm. So there used to be a restaurant in Fort Worth called Tippin's Okay and it was the pie restaurant and you could order a sandwich or a salad, but your real thing was pie Chocolate. I think chocolate banana was one of our favorites.
Speaker 1:Oh, it was so good. I love that. I used to do the pudding all the time you know, buffets where they got the chocolate and vanilla and just take a little bit of each and the chocolate and banana and stuff.
Speaker 2:French silk pie, probably one of my favorites. Oh yeah, french silk, that's so good. I didn't make that, I made pumpkin.
Speaker 1:So we're going to have to figure out Are triathlons coming up or anything? No, you done for the year.
Speaker 2:Well, here's the thing With this thing on my nose with my Rudolph going on right now I cannot swim.
Speaker 1:I can't be in the water, oh that sucks?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it does, and if you ever saw it, you would even say it does glow right now.
Speaker 1:Believe me, if you were in the studio, you'd say wow, that's Dean.
Speaker 2:Believe me, if you were in the studio you'd say wow, that's Dean. But I won't be able to until after the surgery. And then I've got to wait for the stitches to heal and all that kind of stuff. It could be two months or more before I'm back in the water. So I'm cycling and running and I'm doing that, but I'm not able to swim, so I want to do a triathlon sometime next year. I just don't know how long it's going to take to recover from this you know skin thing to be able to get back in the water.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, that's all that we can do is keep going Right.
Speaker 2:Take care of yourself.
Speaker 1:All right man, all right guys. Well, leadershipshowcom, check us out. Stay tuned. We're getting ready to roll through these December months and December podcast, I guess and prepare for the upcoming holiday. It's only what, is it 22 days away?
Speaker 2:now? Yeah, it is, it's crazy, it's coming up quick and I'd say just share. If you like our podcast, just share it with someone else? Yeah, absolutely We'd love to get more listeners and boost our numbers. That else, we'd love to get more listeners and boost our numbers. That would be really good.
Speaker 1:We're trying to get up to around four now. Alright, we got a few more to four, but it sounds good.
Speaker 2:It does sound good, hey guys, we appreciate you.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Dr Dean. Take us away Alright, make it a great day.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
