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Ecclesiastes Insights: Embracing Life's Ephemeral Journey with Leadership and Humor

Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey Season 3 Episode 63

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Ever wondered if life’s pursuits are as fleeting as vapor? Tune in as we explore the wisdom of Ecclesiastes, kicking things off with a touch of humor about a personal "Rudolph nose" scenario that's thankfully on the mend. We unravel the profound themes of "vanity" or "hebel," and its implications on how we perceive purpose and meaning in our daily lives. This episode challenges you to cherish life’s journey, acknowledging its temporary nature yet finding fulfillment in the present moment.

As the holiday season draws near, we pivot to leadership insights inspired by Ecclesiastes, urging a focus on meaningful experiences over material gifts. We discuss how leaders can build strong team dynamics through shared activities, fostering bonds that extend beyond the workplace. Reflecting on life's higher purpose, we encourage setting personal and professional goals that align with one's values, and the power of seeking honest feedback to grow as a leader. The conversation underscores the importance of accepting that not everything is within our control, drawing wisdom from Ecclesiastes to navigate life's complexities.

Finally, we stress the significance of accountability in leadership, likening it to the famous Ecclesiastes' passage about there being a time for everything. As the world shifts, with streaming services replacing Redbox and churches adapting to digital connection, constant evaluation and adaptation become imperative. Insights from a Forbes article highlight the value of owning mistakes for leaders and their teams. Amidst these discussions, we maintain our commitment to light-heartedness with dad jokes and invite listeners to engage with us on our website. We close with a festive spirit, wishing everyone a joyful December and promising enriching discussions ahead.

Speaker 1:

all righty, yeah, uh-huh, yeah, come on, come on, all righty welcome to another exciting show.

Speaker 2:

Hey, welcome welcome welcome.

Speaker 1:

See, I guess I need to just have you do the introduction.

Speaker 2:

No, you just do it better. Welcome, welcome. Welcome to another. You've got a great voice for radio. I have a great face for radio, hey, but my Rudolph nose is getting a little less red it is getting a little less red today. Yes, it is.

Speaker 1:

I don't even have Rudolph music teed up on this show, so last week I was playing the Rudolph music. It was really red last week. It was really red last week.

Speaker 2:

So they said it could take a month for the red to go away and for that skin to heal, and okay you know, I'm about 10 days out and it's less red it is. It's still a little sore, but you know, just being less Rudolph today.

Speaker 1:

I understand that's what we have to do. So if you didn't hear last week's, podcast oh yeah, yeah, I guess we should let them know why you have a Rudolph.

Speaker 2:

I have a little skin cancer on my nose. It has to be removed sometime in January and I'm doing this chemo. Well, I did this chemo cream to take out any precancerous things on my skin around my nose before they do that surgery. And so this chemo cream that you do for 14 days literally turns your nose beet red, and so last week it was really red because I just finished. This week I put a lot of Aquaphor on it because you don't want it to peel and stuff, and so it's a little less red.

Speaker 2:

And every week. We do this, hopefully by Christmas. By Christmas, my Christmas present, when Santa needs you. You won't be Rudolph anymore.

Speaker 1:

No, my gosh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what is he going to do? I don't know what is he going to do. I bet he'll make it anyway. What is he going to do?

Speaker 1:

I don't know what is he going to do?

Speaker 2:

I bet he'll make it anyway. Somehow, someway, oh All right.

Speaker 1:

So last week and I think you explained last week we're getting into the books that are considered wisdom. Is that right Wisdom?

Speaker 2:

literature. Yes, that is wisdom literature. So we've already done Job, and then we have Ecclesiastics. Last week we did a proverb. Have Ecclesiastes, last week we did a proverb. So those are the books of the wisdom literature, which there's a lot of lessons.

Speaker 2:

And we look at the book of Ecclesiastes today and it's important to know that there are two main characters. There's more than two, but there's two important things. One is the author of the book and then there's one called either the preacher or the teacher, and different translations translate the word differently, but most of the time you would call it the preacher or the teacher, and so the author is not the preacher or the teacher. He is actually quoting this preacher-teacher, and so that's just important. If you're thinking, is it the same person? No, it's not the same person. So that's just at the very beginning of the book of Ecclesiastes.

Speaker 2:

And then we go through the book and one of the things that this could be, for, if some people have not read the book and understand it, it can be a downer. It can be a real downer, because it starts out with vanity, vanity, all is vanity, and you're thinking, wow, that's what they're saying about life, that it doesn't really matter this and that, and it's important to know what that word actually means. In the Hebrew, original Hebrew language, it's the word hebel H-E-B-E-L, that's how we say it in English and that word is really well.

Speaker 2:

it's used 38 times in the book 38 times.

Speaker 1:

I know that was an amazing stat that came up.

Speaker 2:

I know it, but it literally is translated literally means vapor or smoke, and so there's a metaphorical meaning about that which is it's translated meaningless or vanity. But the whole image is that you can see smoke, but when you try to grasp it you can't grasp smoke or you can't grasp vapor. It just kind of goes through your fingers. And so the question is is that how we're living life? We're trying to grasp those things that we see that we think are important, but when we actually grasp them we realize that we can't hold on to that, or that's not really what the main issue of life is all about, and so that's kind of the theme that runs through the entire book. It's a very challenging book. It's got some great lessons about leadership that we'll get to in just a minute, but that sets the stage.

Speaker 1:

It does, you know, sets the stage of you know that the Hevel you know, and you so many times, and temporary sort of fleeting and that we shouldn't. You know, and it even says a little shocker there it's like it goes through the rich and the poor and the wise and you know the fool and it just they're going to die, going to die, and you know, and I think they made a great analogy there, like you know one of the things when I show prep, you know the mountains are still going to be there. You know the sun's still going to be there, the ocean's still going to be there, but a hundred years from now you know two or three generations. Unless you're doing some stuff like Einstein or something that's impacting worlds and all that, nobody's going to remember your name. You know, you think back of relatives.

Speaker 1:

You know three, four generations and a lot of us we don't know our relatives three, four generations back. And it's what you do and so many people miss the picture and they're always searching for the purpose or the meaning in life and sometimes it's right there as a purpose and meaning, not really something you have to search for. It's living it. We talked about the journey compared to the ultimate end result. A lot of people are always searching for that end result.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and we were talking about this in show prep. I know I'm guilty of this. Sometimes so many people are focused on the goal that they don't enjoy the journey, and I know I'm guilty of this. Sometimes so many people are focused on the goal that they don't enjoy the journey, and I know I'm guilty of that sometimes. I think the older I get, the more I enjoy the journey when we travel. My wife and I love to travel and we've been doing a lot of that since we retired. But we just enjoy driving, we enjoy being with each other, we enjoy talking with each other, just reminiscing, thinking about what we're seeing. But part of it of traveling is enjoying the journey, not just oh, we got to get to here, we got to get to there, we got to get to. No, enjoy the journey. And I think part of what Ecclesiastes is saying is if you're just focused on the goal. Now, goals are important. We talk about goals and we talk about vision. We talked about that last week.

Speaker 2:

We've talked about that a lot, and one of the leader's responsibilities is to set those visions, to set those goals. But if you only focus on the goal and you don't enjoy the journey, that when you get to the goal you're going to look back and go, wow, I missed a lot of important things. And so I think the book of Ecclesiastes is trying to help us think through enjoying the journey. We get one chance at this thing called life. It's a gift and we need to enjoy the journey Now. Sometimes everybody's going to go through some challenging times Everybody.

Speaker 2:

Every business is going through some challenging times. Every person, every family, they're going to go through some challenging times. So the question is whether it's a good time or a challenging time. Are we enjoying the journey or just waiting for it to be over? You know, oh, this is a hard time. I'm just waiting for it to be over, or I can't wait till this happens. You know Christmas is coming, I can't wait till Christmas. Well, what about enjoying the time between now and then? You know, with your family, friends?

Speaker 1:

you know, whatever you got to do for work, whatever, and that's one of those things that, you know, one of my friends a long time ago taught me and I've lived by it and I've heard it so many times since he doesn't buy stuff. He doesn't buy physical things and gifts for Christmas and birthdays, he buys experiences, because experiences last. That's a memory and if you redo your thinking a little bit, then not going out and buying a new car for this person or a new coffee pot or whatever, and buy an experience where you can go visit something, go to take them to Paris or whatever it might be that experience is going to hold a lot more weight. So it's part of the journey. That's always been a powerful thing when it came to my head.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, and that's one of the things that I'm going to just challenge our listeners to think about, that for Christmas, because since our kids have grown and gone off you know they're done with college and they're starting their own families and those kind of things, for the last several years well God, many years now at Christmastime one of the things we want to do is what can we do as a family to have that kind of experience? You know, let's enjoy not just the presence under the tree, but let's go do something as a family. Now, one time we just go down to Fort Worth, to the um park, down at Trinity Park, where they have an incredible playground for the grandkids, and we just sat there and just had a great time. One time we went up to the Gaylord, texan went through the icekids and we just sat there and just had a great time.

Speaker 2:

One time we went up to the Gaylord, texan went through the ice exhibit that's really cool, and so the question is, what are you going to do this year that you can experience life together? And that, to me, is one of the things I think good leaders do is like, okay, what are you going to do as a leader to maybe do something outside of the office to help create a more, a teamwork, cohesiveness, a synergy with your people? It could be that you take a half a day, pay everybody. You take half a day and go to a food pantry and pack food, you help with a toy drive, you go help with a Habitat house. I mean something that you'll think, wow, that pays a lot of dividends, because we're not just focused on work, we're focused on building our team, we're focused on relationships, and I really think that's what the book of Ecclesiastes is trying to say.

Speaker 2:

Okay, on this journey called life, what is the most important thing about life? And in the book of Ecclesiastes, chapter 12, verse 13,. This is what we read. This is at the very end of the book of Ecclesiastes, 12, verse 13,. This is what we read. This is at the very end of the book. It says the end of the matter. All has been heard, fear God and keep His commandments, for this is the whole duty of humankind.

Speaker 2:

So, after all of this work about vanity, life is meaningless. We're trying to grasp the smoke and and that we never hold onto that. What is the real bottom line focus of life, and that is to love God and enjoy Him. So for those listeners who are part of the tradition that does catechism okay, could be Catholic, could be other denominations the catechism is a list of questions to teach people about faith. Now, the very first catechism was written in the first century. Okay, Some denominations still use a catechism to teach children and adults about faith. The very first question about the catechism is this what is the chief aim of man? Or what is the chief aim of humankind? And this is the answer Man's chief and highest end is to glorify God and to fully enjoy Him forever.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that's powerful and that comes right out of the book of Ecclesiastes, chapter 12, verse 13.

Speaker 2:

And so you might not be able to do that at your work. Focus on religion. But the question is, what about your personal life? What is? Your chief aim in life? Is it to get more money in the bank? Is it to have the biggest house? Is it to have two or three nice cars? What's your chief aim there? What's your chief goal in life?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, from a leadership standpoint, it's that sense of stewardship. What's the impact you're having on people around you? You know, I always ask a lot of things and seminars I teach you know what are. Tell me somebody that that you respected as a boss, as a leader, and why did you respect them? And we, we do that. And I said now tell me somebody that you, you didn't care to work for, and what were their characteristics? Now take a look at that. Between these characteristics and these, how much of these positive ones do you instill in your actions every day to your people? Because if you looked up at this person, you would think you'd want to model that person. So make sure you're modeling that.

Speaker 1:

We always say be your own self, but at the same time, there's qualities that resonate with people, and if you like them more like the people that are drawn to you are going to like them as well. So make sure you're modeling those actions.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what a great lesson that is. And if you want to do something, that might be a little scary, you might have your co-workers evaluate you according to certain things like that, and so you can humble yourself and say, okay, how can I be a better leader to the people that I lead?

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay. Well, you don't know the impression you're giving. You might think you're doing something and you're doing just the opposite.

Speaker 1:

And do it multiple times, because people will lie on the first time.

Speaker 2:

But if you do it quarterly.

Speaker 1:

They're going to be like all right, at some point I'm going to give it up.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to have to tell the truth, right?

Speaker 1:

But the first time they usually lie.

Speaker 2:

They're like oh no, you're great, and do it in December when Christmas bonuses are out right.

Speaker 1:

It's going to be a whole different story than first of the year. In July I'm going to be a whole different story than first of the year, a whole different story. In July I'm going to tell the truth. That's exactly right, oh.

Speaker 2:

That's exactly right, and so let's talk about some of the leadership characteristics or leadership principles that we see in the book of Ecclesiastes. One of them is that we're not always in control.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we might not be in control of certain things we weren't in control of when we were born. We might not be in control of when we pass away, and there are certain things we don't need to talk about the pandemic but there are certain things that we're just not in control of. And so the question is during those times when we're not not in control of, and so the question is during those times when we're not always in control, what do we convey? Do we convey a thing of confidence or do we convey chaos? And that is such an important—I'm not trying to be Pollyannish about it and just pretend everything's okay when it's not. But the question is are we going to encourage our people hey, you know this is tough, but we're going to get through it or, oh my gosh, this is horrible. I don't know how we're going to get through it. I mean, just a few things like that can really set the tone for your organization. That could really have good results, even during difficult times.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And another one that stood out to me is verse 3-1, where it talks about there's a time for everything and a season for every activity under the heavens. And you know, I recognize that. As you know, change, change is inevitable. Right, we're going to, things are going to change, and we have to adapt a lot of times into situations like that.

Speaker 1:

We can't control some of the stuff. The Hevel, the Hevel, you know, uh, it's out there. We think we control it, we think we can reach out and grab it and move it out of the way, but it's. You know, sometimes you've got to walk through that fog. You know, and we told a lot of stories too, you know, of situations that we had every intention of it going the way in one way and it turned out going totally different way. And, and I've, I've been through that in businesses I start out on and, and we've had, you know, even the past radio shows and stuff where we set out doing this and by, you know, two weeks later, three weeks later, we're going a whole different direction than we even thought we were going. And things are going to go the way they're supposed to and a lot of times it's out of your control. It's just going to happen.

Speaker 2:

Correct. And so the first part of chapter three of Ecclesiastes, maybe some of the most quoted verses in the entire Bible. In fact, many years ago there was a song about that, you know, and it's just great. There's a time and place for everything under heaven. And so the question is this could be a time, you know, starting now, where you make a resolution as a leader, to realize that change is coming. You know whatever that might mean Could be the interest rate, it could be, your supply chain is. You know you have to change suppliers. You know you're doing something, this or that, and you've got to adapt.

Speaker 2:

So this is just a funny thing on myself. So every so often we don't watch a whole lot of television at all at our house. We're reading books or something like that. We just don't watch a lot, but every so often we want to watch a movie. So not too long ago I got on my phone and I looked up the Redbox app and I thought, oh, let's go rent a movie from Redbox. I didn't realize that, like four months ago they were out of business. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's like, yeah, because so many things are streamed now, you know. And so we actually went to a movie at the movie theater which was such a good movie. It was the greatest Christmas pageant ever. That was a really good movie. I encourage people to go see that. But I was just realizing, wow, Redbox, they just I don't know what happened, but they're gone. Yeah, they're gone, Just gone.

Speaker 1:

And you know a lot of stuff they haven't evolved. I mean, we've mentioned them many times on here. There's a lot of things that never evolved.

Speaker 2:

They just don't adapt and they don't change with the times. And I mean, who would have known five years ago that one of the main ways to watch a movie is to just live stream it? Just to stream it, you know, from Amazon, paramount, whatever you know, netflix, whatever it is. I had no clue that was coming, but that's not my business. So the question is but in the church world you know the thinking about okay, that was my job for 45 years it's like what are the trends coming for churches?

Speaker 1:

There you go. That's a great question, right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

The COVID affected them. I mean a lot of people still live stream and that wasn't an option at any point. People have kept that going now yes, so that really changed a lot. What do you think? Do you think of any trends?

Speaker 2:

that might be coming. Well, I don't know about trends, but I do think that the live stream thing was such a huge—we talked about it for a long time thing was such a huge, we talked about it for a long time, but then when COVID actually happened, we had to implement that in one day or two days. We had some great people in the congregation that loaned us their equipment before we could actually buy it, and so many people were buying equipment that was backlogged. So you had to kind of just do it and we, we would evaluate, we would film it, we would, you know, film it like on Thursdays and it would post on Sundays, um, and every week we had to evaluate what did we do wrong? How did we make it better? And so we were constantly reviewing ourselves and I think that's a good leader reviews what they do to say how can I make it better next time.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

You know, how can I improve the training of my employees? How can I improve this?

Speaker 1:

LBs and NTs what did I like best? And NTs next time, what would I do different?

Speaker 2:

What would I do?

Speaker 1:

different, you know that's what you got to do. That's how you evolve. You know you look at every conversation, every action, every phone call, everything that you do. And next time, what would I do different? What did I like best about how this situation went today?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and so that's one reason it's so important to take notes throughout the year, so like when you have to do your evaluation.

Speaker 1:

And somehow we still have dad jokes on our show.

Speaker 2:

We're not stopping dad jokes.

Speaker 1:

We're not stopping them. Maybe we need to get better dad jokes on our show. You know, that's the key how we can improve. I couldn't resist that little throw-in comment. Next time we're going to have better dad jokes.

Speaker 2:

I don't know when that next time is coming.

Speaker 1:

It's our New Year's resolution. Better dad jokes. We can't get better ones going into Christmas. Maybe that's your resolution.

Speaker 2:

It's not mine. I'm going to have horrible dad jokes.

Speaker 1:

But we'll get to dad jokes in just a few minutes.

Speaker 2:

So maybe we should finish up One of the things that I was just reading we do a lot of show prep before the show and one of the things that I was reading.

Speaker 2:

I was actually reading an article from Forbes magazine, so let's just take a different, and this was about what leaders want from the people they lead. And I thought, wow, that's a different twist to it. You know, and the number one thing that leaders want from the people that lead is to take accountability for their mistakes. And I'm thinking well, that's not just true of the people they lead, that's true of the leader. So, you know, if we've made a mistake which I've made plenty in my life- the question is do we try to hide it?

Speaker 2:

Do we blame someone else, Do we whatever? Or do we try to hide it? Do we blame someone else, Do we whatever? Or do we take accountability for it and do we say you know what? I made that mistake, it was my fault, you know. I'm sorry about that. Let's just see how we can work through it right now. And that is a really good lesson, not just for the people that you lead, but for yourself as a leader as well, and not just for the people that you lead but for yourself as a leader as well.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, yeah, and I think that's, a lot of people don't know how to take accountability. They don't understand the concept, and I think when you get the little gray hair in your head, or the lack of hair in your head, it's just you learn the wisdom about what it means to take accountability. You know, at some point there's this gray area that you try to dodge when you're, when you're growing up and I went through that where it's like I'm not telling the truth but I'm not lying, I'm not taking accountability, but I'm not not taking accountability. So there there's that little mind games you play with yourself, and I think you get that when you get a little gray hair. And then it's so important People want to trust, they want to have a trust, and one of those things is to do what you say you're going to do and own your own actions.

Speaker 2:

So let's just take that one about accountability, and we'll talk about some other ones, maybe in another podcast, but there's actually four things that this article mentioned.

Speaker 2:

We'll just focus on the first one today, and that is accountability. So let's just talk about accountability with our words, okay, accountability with our actions is one thing, but accountability with our words. So in the book of Ecclesiastes, chapter 8, verse 2, it talks about having a discreet mouth. Okay, a discreet mouth, okay. And so the question for the leaders out there is what comes out of your mouth is so important. Are you one that encourages people? Are you someone that puts them down? Are you someone that only puts people down to elevate yourself? Or how do you do that, and are you accountable for your actions?

Speaker 1:

You can build them up or you can tear them down. It depends on what you want.

Speaker 2:

Exactly right. And so the question is what is your main way of operating? Now, I'm not, you know, because sometimes you have to hold people accountable for their work if they're not, you know, doing their job if they're not meeting timelines. You know those kind of things. You have to hold people accountable for their work. If they're not, you know doing their job if they're not meeting timelines. You know those kind of things. You have to. You know, and I've had to fire people for, unfortunately, for just not doing their work or doing what they thought was their work, even though we've told them hey, you know, I want you to focus on this and they go and do their own thing. And you know there's a process for all that we had to go through own thing, and there's a process for all that we had to go through, but accountability for your words and for your actions.

Speaker 2:

To me, as a leader, it's so important to build people up. I think that is one of the biggest things a leader can do is to build people up. Find something about every person that you lead to build them up, and I'm not just talking. You know this is Christmas time. It's time to give, you know, maybe bonuses or Christmas gifts or something. Maybe you don't have the money to do that.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes in the church, many times in church, we don't have the money to do those kind of things. Okay, but writing a note and just say thank you for this or doing something that they would appreciate, you know, maybe give them a gift card to Starbucks, something that would just build them up to say, hey, I appreciate you. That goes such a long way in the eyes of the people that you lead. They will think, wow, they took the time, they noticed me. I must be important. Yes, you want them to know that they are important to the organization. They're an important and valuable person. You're glad that they're there. How can the leader show appreciation to the people they lead? I think that's an important thing, that's exactly it went on.

Speaker 1:

My list today is to go buy thank you cards, because I've talked about it for years of getting better and I send out a few. But I'm gonna make a point, uh, and it doesn't have to have to be the first of this year or whatever non-new year's resolution, but I'm I'm gonna start sending out more thank you cards and and uh, make sure that that's part of it. Now to add on to your stuff there. What I want to talk about is I've got five things here that are takeaways for accountability of words. Oh, okay, and the five are think before speaking, right. Think on the words if they're kind, if they're necessary, if they're truthful, right. So think before you speak.

Speaker 2:

Don't just spit things out, right Filter.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Number two speak less, mean more. So in other words, choose your words wisely. Be more concise. I say this every time I speak with a group of people. You're going to come off more powerful, more clear, as if you can say your point in less words. It's a leadership thing. If you just ramble and ramble and ramble, you lose the people. So speak less and mean more. Honor commitments. Number three be trustworthy in your promises and your agreements. So, in other words, if you have a commitment, if you've said something, make sure you do what you say you're going to do right. Avoid gossip. You know how many times did that? Speak with integrity?

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's huge.

Speaker 1:

You know, we need to avoid the gossip. How many times? And I'm trying to teach my kids this because they'll say well, you know, I heard this. I'm like, well, you heard that you don't know if it's true. Well, you know, I heard this. I'm like, well, you heard that you don't know if it's true. Well, I mean, somebody said it's true. I'm like somebody said it's true, but does it true? I said you don't want to repeat that that's gossip. That's what gossip is. Just because you hear a story you don't know if it's true, if you figure out it's true, then that's fine, but you just don't take for somebody from their words because they may not, you know, be good. And then the last one there is uh, choose timing wisely, you know. Uh, deliver the right message at the right time with the right tone. Basically, you know and I think that's where accountability words if you can, you can go with those five. You're, you're going to be a more powerful, you're going to have more accountability in your, your speech and and be part of it.

Speaker 2:

So could you repeat those real quick?

Speaker 1:

for our listeners.

Speaker 2:

You might want to write those down.

Speaker 1:

Think before speaking. Speak less, mean more, honor your commitments, avoid gossip and choose timing wisely.

Speaker 2:

Excellent point, there you go. Excellent point. I think it's time for some dad jokes.

Speaker 1:

I see you're reaching for emergency dad jokes there. I know he was teeing up. He's like I'm going to get some emergency dad jokes.

Speaker 2:

This is for all the pirates out there.

Speaker 1:

I've got some good friend pirates right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this is for the pirates out there for a Christmas present.

Speaker 1:

We'll dedicate this to the pirate king. If he's listening, he knows who he is.

Speaker 2:

Where do pirates go to buy their hooks?

Speaker 1:

I don't know.

Speaker 2:

They go to a second-hand store.

Speaker 1:

All right, I'll give you that one. I can't even throw it in a LaVloz on that one. I like that one.

Speaker 2:

All right, I like it you know, we were horsing around over Thanksgiving and I got hit with a can the other day. It was a good thing, it was a soft drink.

Speaker 1:

I've heard that one. That was good. Hey, do you know why the snail painted an S on his car?

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

Do you? So his friends would say look at the escargot.

Speaker 2:

I did like that one.

Speaker 1:

What else you got? You got one or two more. Yeah, why do nurses? It's December. By gosh, I can throw a couple of these out, whatever.

Speaker 2:

Why do nurses always have red pens?

Speaker 1:

Nurses have red pens. I do not know.

Speaker 2:

In case they need to draw blood.

Speaker 1:

All right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's appropriate response.

Speaker 1:

What do you call a man with a rubber toe?

Speaker 2:

Oh, I've heard this one, I don't remember.

Speaker 1:

Roberto.

Speaker 2:

Roberto, we'll just stop right there with Roberto Roberto.

Speaker 1:

All right guys. Hey, we enjoyed it. Happy December to you.

Speaker 2:

Happy December.

Speaker 1:

Getting a little bit closer, a little bit closer to this festive time, this whole month's festive, it is I mean from. November. But yeah, check us out biblical leadership showcom. Send us, uh, some chat. You can go in there and chat with us. You can send us some messages. You can send us some dad jokes If you want us to hear dad jokes on the air.

Speaker 1:

I mean, we always welcome those. Other than that, Um, you know, just keep having a great December, Hope you're having a great time and and this is thing if, if, if you're not having a good time, you know we always offer our services for a prayer request. We always, definitely will pray for you. Uh, reach out to us, send us a message off our podcast and, uh, other than that, uh, have a great rest of the time. Till next week, We'll come back and and talk a little bit more and keep going back through our series on the Bible here. So, other than that, any other words besides your favorite get out of here. Words, no, that's it.

Speaker 2:

All right.

Speaker 1:

Well, dr Dean, take us away, make it a great day. Thank you, have a great day.

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