The Biblical Leadership Show
Inspiration. Wisdom. Leadership from a Higher Perspective.
Welcome to The Biblical Leadership Show, your go-to resource for discovering timeless truths from Scripture that empower leaders to inspire, influence, and impact their world. Hosted by Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey, this podcast takes a deep dive into the Bible’s profound lessons on leadership, bringing fresh perspectives to timeless principles that resonate in today’s fast-paced, ever-changing world.
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- Powerful Biblical Insights: We explore the leadership styles of biblical figures like Moses, Esther, David, and Jesus, extracting practical strategies for overcoming challenges, building trust, and creating lasting impact.
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The Biblical Leadership Show
Love's Legacy: Celebrating Milestones, Leadership Lessons from Solomon, and Heartfelt Humor
Rediscover the heartwarming essence of love and leadership with us as we celebrate a special milestone—Dr. Dean Posey's 47th wedding anniversary. Through charming tales of his early marriage days and a comical first Christmas tree story, we offer a lighthearted start to an episode filled with laughter and reflection. A dad joke about the quirky history of waterbeds lightens the mood, leading us into an insightful exploration of the Song of Solomon, a timeless biblical love story that continues to inspire.
As the conversation unfolds, we embrace the profound impact of genuine care in leadership. You'll learn how taking the time to build meaningful relationships can transform professional and personal environments alike. Drawing wisdom from leadership legends like John Maxwell, we share personal anecdotes from church leadership that highlight the significance of trust, mutual respect, and authentic communication. Whether it's through shared meals or home visits, the emphasis is on fostering an atmosphere where people feel valued and supported.
Navigating through the intricate world of Bible versions, we guide newcomers toward finding the perfect fit. With simpler alternatives to the King James Version like the NIV and ESV, we promise a smoother journey into biblical texts. From practical resources like the Bible Project to the thoughtful insights of Tara-Leigh Cobble's Bible Recap, there are tools aplenty to deepen your understanding. As we wrap things up, don’t miss our playful banter about holiday plans and our invitation for your best dad jokes for our upcoming New Year's Eve episode. Your support means the world to us—stay connected by subscribing and joining our community!
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Speaker 2:How you doing there, brother?
Speaker 1:he was sitting there practicing right before the show. He was getting his welcome, welcome, welcome all set up. I threw him off when.
Speaker 2:I just looked at him, he just looked at me across the studio and was like oh, I'm supposed to say something.
Speaker 1:Hey everybody, Welcome to another exciting episode of the Biblical Leadership Show. My name is Tim Lansford and with me is the Dr Dean Posey.
Speaker 2:How are?
Speaker 1:we doing today.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, it's an exciting day Today is the 17th of. December. It's my wife's and my 47th anniversary yeah we got married in the second grade.
Speaker 1:I was very safe. I was trying to do the math on that. We met in kindergarten.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's exactly right.
Speaker 2:We got, you know, had to talk to our parents to get married in second grade.
Speaker 1:So you know Well, I mean you know those things were acceptable.
Speaker 2:Yes, Whatever, so it's good.
Speaker 1:That's a long time, 47 years. My goodness, that's pretty impressive it was impressive, yeah, Well happy anniversary.
Speaker 2:We actually met the day before classes started our freshman year at Baylor University and we didn't date while we were at Baylor.
Speaker 2:We dated after she left Baylor to go to physical therapy school at the medical school in Memphis and we started dating. And so then I was finishing up Baylor, she was in PT school and she graduated from PT school One Saturday, we got married the next, and so that was in December of 77. And so then we went to Florida on honeymoon and we literally bought you know, you've seen the Charlie Brown Christmas special where Charlie Brown buys a Charlie Brown tree.
Speaker 2:Yes, well, we went to I think it was a Rotary Club. They're selling trees. We literally went to the Rotary Club thing. I think we must have paid $10, maybe five, I don't know. It was literally a Charlie Brown tree and we sat on the beach and strung popcorn and cranberries. That was old school but it sure was fun and we had some ornaments that someone had given us and that was our first Christmas tree. And you know, and we still have we don't have the popcorn and cranberries, obviously, but we still have those little ornaments and we decorated our tree on the Saturday of Thanksgiving and we still put those ornaments up. And brings back a lot of memories. So, 47 years.
Speaker 1:Well, congratulations, congratulations to the missus I know she's an avid listener? Yeah, she is, she is, and so is our kids and, by the wayus, I know she's an avid listener, she is.
Speaker 2:And so is our kids and, by the way, I just want to thank our son, matt, for sending a dad joke.
Speaker 1:We got a dad joke in there.
Speaker 2:So any of you listeners Please send us dad jokes, because if you're a regular listener to the show, you know we need your help and we do actually get dad jokes Sent in to us and it's nice when we get the family to send us a little dad joke. I'm just going to start out with this one, okay.
Speaker 1:All right, get the buttons ready. This is a good one. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2:So our son, his wife, they had a waterbed. Okay, you know the old school waterbeds.
Speaker 1:I do. I have one forever and ever. They're awesome, he said this.
Speaker 2:Our waterbed was way too firm, and we wanted to make it softer and bouncier, so they decided to fill it with spring water.
Speaker 1:Oh, there we go, let's start out the show with that and that got some groans from the family, huh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it got some serious groans from the family. I see why Spring water, spring water, yeah.
Speaker 1:I love my waterbed.
Speaker 2:I just those were so awesome yeah.
Speaker 1:Until it leaked, I had the really good ones Mine never ever leaked.
Speaker 2:Oh, with the baffles in it. I might never.
Speaker 1:Ever with the baffles, yeah, the baffles, and that's what you know the old, the waterbed, you know I couldn't handle the you know the one that was crazy, but with the bath the baffles. It was just so comfy, just conformed. Ah, just it was great.
Speaker 2:I love it. When did those come out? I mean, it's been decades, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean someone invented the waterbed, yeah the kids nowadays have no idea when are they going to make the comeback, because everything cycles in about 20 years, right? I don't know that's got to be coming back around at some point. Maybe I should start out the waterbeds.
Speaker 2:Well, now, everything's memory foam right. Everything's memory foam.
Speaker 1:Well, we can do a memory foam slash waterbed somehow.
Speaker 2:Maybe a waterbed on the bottom and a memory foam on the top. Yeah, exactly right Kind of a hybrid.
Speaker 1:Hey, if you take our idea and do, it.
Speaker 2:Please call me. I'd love to help you market that because.
Speaker 1:I really think, everything cycles back it does and it's the waterbed and memory foam idea that might be the million-dollar idea that we're looking for.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, there you go. So happy anniversary to my bride.
Speaker 1:Yay, I call her my sunshine.
Speaker 2:I love it yeah and appropriate, because today it just so happens.
Speaker 1:I know what a great one that we're talking about today.
Speaker 2:We're talking about the Song of Solomon or the Song of Songs. It's spelled by both names and depends on your Bible that you read, but most of the time it's called the Song of Solomon.
Speaker 1:Right. So yeah, it's basically a love story. It's a big old love story, isn't it?
Speaker 2:It is a big love story and it's fantastic, Right there in the middle of the Bible. Some people say what is that all about? Well, it's a story and it could be true, but a lot of people think it's an allegory or a kind of a parable about God's love for His people or Christ's love for the church, and so you read that, and it's an important part of the Jewish tradition and part of the Christian tradition to understand how much God loves His people.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And so it's a powerful story and I encourage people. It's only like eight chapters long, it's a short book. Yeah, it's a very short book but it's got some powerful imagery about the power of love and so I think you know we think well, what can you learn about leadership? I mean, this is the biblical leadership show right, right, yeah, and so what can you learn about leadership from this book, this short book that talks about love between a man and a woman? I think you can learn a lot.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:You know it's like okay, so you're the leader, okay, you could be the leader of a softball team. You could be the leader of a softball team. You could be the leader of a scout troop. You could be leader of a multimillion-dollar corporation. The question is do you care for your people? You know, do you care? Let's just say, a softball team, okay, or a basketball team. You know we're in football season, so you play flag football. Okay, so you're the captain of the team. Do you care more about the game and winning or do you care more about your people? Right? That's a huge question. You know, and your people will know, what your priority is Is it winning or is it the people? And so that's a huge thing, and we get it right here from this book that the power of love is one of the greatest powers, if not the greatest power in the world, and so the question is how does that translate into your business?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you think about that. You know, if you're somebody that ties into the people right over the winning, and people know that, I mean that's what breeds loyalty.
Speaker 1:You know and trust and that's one of the things we get out of corporate you know you want that loyalty, you want that employee engagement of your employees, that you know that they're with you 100%. You know, and that's you know. Think back, all of the biblical leaders, right? You know there's a lot of things that you know. Let's go wander around for a while and follow me. And you know there's a lot of trust. You know, over the course, and it's been, you know, said many times in many different chapters of Bible, you know, as you know, some of the different things that we can do. You know.
Speaker 2:Correct. So two things come to mind when we talk about caring for your people, and that is something that I learned long, long ago when I was in high school and that is you have to earn the right to be heard, and a lot of times you earn that right by caring for people. And I don't know if it was John Maxwell said this first or he copied it from somebody, but it's a great saying, and that is people don't care how much you know until they know how much you care. And so I'm going to say that again People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care. And so that is so true in business People.
Speaker 2:You know they care about the bottom line, they care about their paycheck, but they care about the vision of the company. But they want to know does my leader, does my boss, does my manager, does my team leader? Do they really care about me as a person, as an individual, or am I just a person that you know checks off the task list and advances the company's business line bottom line? You know, do they really care about the bottom line or do they really care about the people? And so that right now you know we're coming up on Christmas and you don't just care for people by giving them a bonus at the end of the year or a present or inviting them to a holiday party. No, what do you do during the whole year to let people know that you really care about them? That's a really important lesson.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100%, I think that's, and you tie back and we're looking at you know, this book being a love story, right.
Speaker 1:Right, we were really sort of going through sort of identifying some of the things because we like to you know this new series we're taking each you know book of the Bible and going and we're looking at some of the verses and stuff in here and the one that stood out to us when we talked about that was my Song of Solomon 216, my beloved is mine and I is him and it talks about that mutual respect and commitment that we're talking about. How can we tie that in? Because there's got to be a mutual respect about. How can we tie that in Because there's got to be a mutual respect, Just because you have to buy into me as a leader, I have to buy into you as one of my employees as far as that, because that's where that trust is, and if you don't have a two-way back and forth, ultimately something's going to go sideways. Whether you talk about company or relationships, as the song of Solomon is, it's just there's got to be a two-way trust there.
Speaker 2:Correct and the relationship is so crucial. So let me just say one of the things that I did in more than one church, and I didn't learn this from seminary. I learned it by making too many mistakes in the early part, but finally realized what you're saying, that it's got to be. You got to focus on the people. You can't just focus on the mission of the church. The mission of the church involves the people. So how can I show my care for the people? And so what I would do when I'd get to a new church and it just depend on the size of the church how thoroughly I could do this but most churches, what I would do for my first year and I remember this very, very well I stood up in the pulpit one day and I said okay, my assistant is going to call you at your home, text you, email you, whatever contact you, because I would like to come and just be in your home for 30 to 45 minutes. I have no agenda except just to get to know you, that's it. And so I want to make two visits every Sunday afternoon. We're going to have a calendar. It might not be every Sunday because holidays and everything like that, but every Sunday that I can, I'm going to visit two families in the afternoon. I tell you that paid dividends for years and years and years, because it's just building relationships.
Speaker 2:Now here's the mistake I made when I said that, because I said it off the cuff. At the very end, I said now the only thing I ask is that if you want to do it, you do it, but I want you to have dessert ready when I come. Oh, I said no, I'm just joking, I'm just joking about the dessert. Well, no, the people were not joking about the dessert. I ate so much dessert in that year it was like incredibly good, but the people were very, very generous about it. But the thing about it is it was investing in the people, you know, and it took the time.
Speaker 2:And so the question is how big a priority is that for you as a leader? Are you investing with your people? Maybe you don't have time during softball practice talking, okay, are you going to have coffee with them? Are you going to eat breakfast with them? Are you going to have lunch with them? Are you going to do something with the family? What are you doing outside of the business hours to build relationships with your people and the bigger the church, then it's like, okay, I had to do that with the staff. I couldn't do it with the whole congregation, so I did it maybe with the staff and maybe the leaders of the church or the administrative council or something like that. Those were the relationships I focused on, and so the question is, if the bigger the organization? But the principle is the same, and that is is do you focus on people and your mission or do you just focus on the mission?
Speaker 2:you know, and which one's first, and your people know. They know from your words and we talked about this before the show the words that you say, the tone of voice that you use, the body language that you use. Are you uplifting people? Are you encouraging people? Are you discouraging people? You know that is so, so important.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100%. And you know there's a lot of lessons to be learned and we talked about some different things in this Song of Solomons or Song of Songs, and one of the things that we sort of talked about the next one that we looked at is, you know, speak with transparency and vulnerability. If you look at Song of Solomon 5-6, I opened for my beloved and my beloved had left. He was gone. My heart sank at his departure. Now in this book there's a lot of missions. This first part of Solomon is like. Every time she woke up they were together and then he left right, he's gone.
Speaker 1:I was trying to figure that one out right, and that was the reoccurring theme of the first part of this. Is there a backstory on this or is there a theory on this? I'm just curious.
Speaker 2:Well, the thing about it is, if you just read the book, if you just read it from front to back, and you can probably sit down and read it in 20 minutes okay, maybe 25, but if you just read it, you're going to maybe be confused because you won't understand what is this about. What is this love language between this man and this woman? And then, every so often they mentioned Solomon, and there's this woman and the shepherd and it's just.
Speaker 1:But they say Solomon wasn't the writer on this right.
Speaker 2:They say that Solomon wasn't the writer. But Solomon is the one who really is accredited for starting the wisdom literature of the Jewish tradition, and so this was written in that vein as part of the wisdom literature, and so the people who put his name in the book the Song of Solomon are saying this was written in the format that Solomon would say Now, could he have written it? Scholars still are undecided. Did he write this? It could have been something that he said wrote. We don't know 100% who the author was.
Speaker 1:It could have been Solomon, maybe not but Now, if you put it in that terms, maybe this is the one that kept getting away right, you know he had lots of wives, right. Maybe this was his true love that kept sliding away from him and he kept waking up, trying to reunite. I don't know. I'm trying to be positive. I'm trying to do a positive spin on this one.
Speaker 2:Solomon had 700 wives, yeah you know that was not good at the end because the wives some of the wives he married were not of the Jewish faith, and so they led him astray from worshiping the true God, and that just created all kinds of problems for him and the end of his life. At the beginning he was so faithful to God. He was trying to follow in his father's you know, king David's footsteps. He did incredible things for the nation you know, built the temple and those kind of things, was one of the wisest men other than Jesus who ever lived in history of humankind. Was wealthier beyond belief.
Speaker 1:He had to have 700 wives. I have one. And if you're listening, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:But the guy was brilliant okay, brilliant, so he could have written this. He might not have written it, but he's accredited for it. But the thing about it is, if you just read it and you go, what is this all about? It's important to read maybe, a study Bible, get a study Bible and read some of the backstory on that so you can understand oh, this is about this woman and the shepherd and their love for one another, and then Solomon at the end is trying to buy her love and she says no. And so it's important to understand some of the history behind it or some of the themes that you have.
Speaker 2:And one of the—if you don't know, you're a listener and you don't know about the Bible Project, I would just say go to BibleProjectcom. They have a short summary of every book in the Bible. That's literally between six and ten minutes, and it is incredible those people are brilliant scholars and artists how they can visually explain every book in the Bible. So I would encourage you to go look at that video it's like seven minutes long and then read the book. It will make so much more sense to understand the dynamic between the woman and the shepherd and Solomon at the end and those kind of things.
Speaker 1:No, we're going to take a detour, because that's what we do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we can. It's our show, so we talk Exactly right, not a dad joke.
Speaker 1:Yet Don't panic.
Speaker 2:Don't panic. Okay, I've got one here. It's football season, I got a football joke.
Speaker 1:All right, so you mentioned, we always reference. King James Version. But you mentioned the study Bible there, you know, is there a different way for people that are new to the Bible? Is there? Should I get this Bible, that Bible, should I get a secondary thing Is there just a thought process of how to go about it or do you just sit down and you know we've talked about sometimes Old Testament drags down, go to the New Testament, maybe kick back, but give us an idea for people that might be new to the ministry.
Speaker 2:Okay. So here's the thing. The King James Version of the Bible is incredible. Okay, it literally changed history when it was printed. But the King James Version is written on a 12th grade reading level and it's Old English. It's very difficult for some people to understand, even if they're scholars, scholars yeah.
Speaker 2:It's hard for them because they don't speak Old English, they don't understand the these and the thous and they can just get caught up in the language and so that's frustrating and they just sometimes just don't want to read. So my encouragement is to get something that's say less than a 12-degree reading level, maybe like NIV, the ESV, the CEV, different versions of the Bible, the NRSV, the American Standard. They're less, but if you're looking for a Bible there's so many apps online now that you can go and somebody will read the Bible to you. If you actually want a book to actually hold in your hands, then I would encourage you to go to Mardale, go to a Bible bookstore and just take about 30 minutes to an hour and just sit down and read the same chapters. Okay, so read like Genesis 1 and 2 and Matthew 1 and 2 or Luke 1 and 2. You know it's Christmastime.
Speaker 2:Read the Christmas story in the book of Luke, do that in several versions of the Bible so you maybe get a King James, and then you get an NIV or maybe a RSV or NRSV or New King James or some other American standard or something, and just read four, five, six. The message is a good place to start. Years ago it was the Living Bible. So I would just say get one that you enjoy reading, that's easy for you to read. Start with that one, okay.
Speaker 1:I got you.
Speaker 2:Just start with that one. Now, there's Bibles that just have the New Testament. There's Bibles that have the New Testament and Psalms and Proverbs. There's Bibles, obviously, that have the whole Bible. If you're from the Catholic tradition, you have the Apocrypha in there. So it's just like, what do I want? And then you say, well, I just want something to read. Okay, well then, maybe get the message, get maybe a living Bible, getting something like that. But then if you want to actually like, okay, I want to read something about these books before I read them, then you might need to go to a study Bible.
Speaker 2:Now, the thing about a study Bible they're normally thicker, heavier, and that might not be one that you carry to church. You might just say, that's one I'm going to read at home. I'm going to read the notes, I'm going to read the introductions, I'm going to read the history. The author and that's what I use at home is a study Bible, niv study Bible. I've used it for years. It's all marked up, you know, because I always learn something new about it.
Speaker 2:But it's fascinating to know, okay, who wrote the book About, when was it written, what are the major themes, what is the outline, and if you understand that before you even read the Bible, go to the Bible Project and listen to the video. Then it gives you a good understanding of the book before you actually read. So then when you read it's not as confusing. You understand oh, that's what the Song of Solomon is over. Oh, that's what the book of Lamentations is about. Oh, that's what the book of Luke is about. And you can get that. And then when you read it, it just makes a lot more sense.
Speaker 2:So if you take a little bit of time to do some homework about getting the right Bible and then a little bit of homework about what is this about? Some background, it'll make reading the Bible so much more enjoyable for you. It really will. And what a great habit to get into for the first of the year. People are thinking what is my New Year's resolution? The other thing that is really incredible there's a lot of things online, but the Bible recap. That program Terri Lee Cobble she's a phenomenal lady and you read the Bible through an entire year. You read like five or six chapters, you read it chronologically and then she has a recap for like six minutes online, explains what you read, and that's a good way to start New Year's.
Speaker 1:Eve. And what is that Bible recap? The Bible recap.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's really, really good. I've done it. My wife's done it several times. She came to our church. Tara Lee came to our church a couple years ago and spoke. Just an incredible lady.
Speaker 1:I watched her on the podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's really, really good, and what a gift that she has to help people read the Bible for the first time. Yeah, it's really good. So I would say there's so many resources out now that there weren't, say, 10, 15 years ago.
Speaker 1:They have a lot of daily devotionals, right.
Speaker 2:Online yes, they have online ones.
Speaker 1:They've got I guess I'm signed up one. It sends you a Bible verse every morning. You start your day off with a Bible verse, and so there's so many things out there that you can do, and I mean, I've got the Bible on my iPad and my phone, you know, and there's no excuse.
Speaker 2:you know, because a lot of people are like I'm not carrying this around everywhere, you know, but I mean it's everywhere now you know, and it's just, it's wherever On my phone that I have here in my hand. I probably have. I don't even know how many different translations I have in just one app. So the technology is incredible and I'd say take advantage of that, from people's research and time and investment. Take advantage of that. Make it easy for you, because if you're going to develop a habit of reading the Bible, you want to make it easy. You don't want to be like, oh, I'm going to join the gym and three weeks later you stop going. You want to do it, so it's easy for you to do. And I'd say, start out reading a chapter in the Old Testament chapter every day.
Speaker 2:Get in the habit of doing that, because you know it's like. Our daughter was a teacher for a long time. She taught Spanish and a teacher's job. I only taught one year when I was in school. I taught PE. But the teacher's job is not just to teach the subject. I think also a teacher's job is to develop a passion for learning in their students. Okay, and so if you can just develop a passion for reading the Bible, what a great gift that is, and so I just encourage people to just pick up a Bible that you can read and start reading it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's great. That's a long answer to a question. It was no, it was a great answer and I think that's.
Speaker 1:You know it's again it's our show, we go on, but I think it's important, especially at this time of year. You know we're going into. You know people create new habits and new things that they want to do, or they've been listening to the show and they don't know how to get started, or they want to increase in their faith, and then you know, little things like this just help a lot of people, because a lot of people don't know they don't have a relationship with somebody like I consider across. That's why I brought you to the podcast.
Speaker 2:I got like my personal coach here, right, that's been doing this for 10 or 12 days. He's only been doing these.
Speaker 1:But I mean, yeah, so it's one of those things. That's a beautiful thing for people to expand their knowledge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was listening to a podcast the other day about triathlon training and this, this woman who was talking about it she she teaches at the Air Force Academy. She was in the Air Force. She talked about habits. How do we develop habits?
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Okay, and I hadn't finished listening to the whole podcast. It was really good and lengthy. But she said, okay, this is just an example. Some people have a kind of a they don't want to floss their teeth. Even though and she actually used this on the podcast she said some people don't want to floss their teeth, so I encourage them to just floss one tooth. Just floss one tooth, right, that's all you want to do, just floss one. And then they realize, oh, I can floss one tooth.
Speaker 1:I can floss one tooth.
Speaker 2:I can floss one tooth. Well, then they realize, oh, that was not bad, so then they just automatically start flossing two or three. And so sometimes we think, reading the Bible, I got to sit down and read for an hour. No, you don't. Sit down and read for five minutes. Start with baby steps. Floss one tooth, you know. Just start simple, make it simple, and then it gets to be a habit and you want to get to the point where you don't feel like I got it.
Speaker 2:No, you want to do it. You want to do this, not because I feel I have to. I'm guilty if I don't. No, you want to do that, and I think God wants to put that desire in our hearts. I think that's one of the messages from the Song of Solomon is that God has so much love for us. He wants us to experience love for Him. And how can he best do that? One of the best ways is to read the Word of God. It's like a love letter. You know from the start to the end. It's God's love letter to us how much he loves us and how much he was willing to do for us by sending His Son dying on the cross and rising from the dead so we can have eternal life.
Speaker 2:Wow, what a great love letter that is that is good and we're coming up on Christmas, you know, the birth of Christ, you know, and that's uh. We're celebrating that next week and and so yeah that's good.
Speaker 1:And we got big time plans coming up for the new year.
Speaker 2:We're not going to break the news to you yet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but don't miss the New Year's Eve show. It might be the best show of the year. It very well might be.
Speaker 2:It could be All right, so let's just say, if you want your dad joke on air before the end of the year, because we only got after today. We only got two more shows.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve. I know so if you want, send your dad jokes in you know biblicalleadershowcom and send them to us.
Speaker 1:And send them quick. Yeah, send them quick. Yes, yeah, because okay, yeah, anyway, anyway, so I think we're done, let's just go Well, here, no, before we go. No, we got one more thing, because we started a series of the four things of leadership.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I want to get to the second one, because we said we're going to do this in four weeks. So tell us what was second on our list and explain what we did last week, in case people are just listening today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you so much for calling my attention, because I have that note right here in front of me. So this was from Forbes magazine June 25th of this year, and it was an article about what leaders want from the people they lead. You know what are the four main things that leaders want from the people they lead. Last week we talked about that. They want the people they lead to take accountability for their own mistakes.
Speaker 1:Right, very, very important. Yes.
Speaker 2:And why would they want that? Because it shows integrity and responsibility and it fosters a culture of trust. Okay, so the second one was they want people to be proactive in their follow-up. If your leader or your boss or your employer has to keep nagging you about doing something over and over, when are you going to get that report on my desk? When are you going to send you know, fourth quarter reports are coming due pretty quick, right? Profit and loss statements, all those kind of stuff. When are you going to get that report to me? You know, when is this going to happen? If you keep having to nag an employee, reminding them if they're not proactive in doing their work, what does that say about them? Okay, it basically means I'm going to do my own thing, I'm not going to pay attention to you, and the leaders want people who are going to be proactive, doing their responsibilities and take responsibility to do it, instead of having to be told time and time again to do their work. So that's number two.
Speaker 1:That's probably one of my. I don't have too many pet peeves. I really don't. I'm pretty easygoing boss. You know, do your thing I'm. I'm a big person of empowerment. I'll give you the you know the leash to go out and do whatever you need to do. But if I have to constantly call you or remind you to do something, that just gets under my skin, right, it's just. That's one of those things.
Speaker 1:And years ago I implemented a thing when I show up at a job site and we, before we walk around the job site I think I've mentioned it go get the notepad out of the car. I want you to write down everything we talk about, because if I have to remind you of what we talked about that day, well, we didn't talk about that. I guarantee I've got a pretty short memory. We did talk about that and blah, blah, blah. I'm just it's not gonna go well, right, because that's I don't have it to me. Pet bees, that's one of them. So I make everybody right around. I'm like because, as they get their note back, I'm like write that down, write that down. And then, as I say we didn't, I'm like go look at your notepad and review the things and then call me back you know, because we did talk about it.
Speaker 2:And I have a copy on my phone.
Speaker 1:So I don't know, I just, you know, it's just. That's one of those things I hate repeating myself, and I know I'm not alone on that, right, because that's, you know, if you're maximizing your time, I'm relying on you as one of my managers, to get the things done. We've talked about it. It's off my plate. Take care of it for me, right, because I've delegated that to you and you know if I have to constantly be reminding you, well, it's back on my plate and that's as a leader, that's what you don't want to get is where things are coming back to you. That's sort of one of the things we teach.
Speaker 1:A lot of the mistake leaders make sometimes is they'll delegate it and they go okay, let me check into that, and then they put it back on their plate. Well, no, why don't you check on that? Let me know what you find out is delegating upon the delegation that you gave them. But a lot of people take back the delegation going well, let me check on that. And from a leader, from a time management, from a delegation, it's the wrong way to do it. You have assigned it. Now have them come up with the solutions and then talk to you about the solution.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I want to talk to you on Friday about what you found out, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's exactly right, all right, wonderful. Well, it is football season. Oh yeah, football season it is.
Speaker 2:I mean it's coming down to the end of the season, here it is. My goodness. So I have a joke about sports.
Speaker 1:A sports joke? Yes, okay.
Speaker 2:Why did the stadium get hot after the game? Why did the stadium get hot? Should I?
Speaker 1:just go ahead and do it now. Yeah, you just do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's going to be a groaner. I can tell you that. Why did the stadium get hot after?
Speaker 1:the game? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Because all the fans left.
Speaker 1:Wah, wah, wah, wah. Yes, oh, I was trying to think of some football ones that I had. You know, what did the football say to the punter? I don't know why are you?
Speaker 2:kicking me out of here.
Speaker 1:I'll give it again right. Well, here's the thing, here's the thing.
Speaker 2:Here's the thing it's getting cold.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Dallas-Fort Worth is getting cold, and so, for those of us who have little hair on the top, it's very common for us to wear a hat.
Speaker 1:Yes, it is During this time of year, right, right?
Speaker 2:So what did one hat say to the other hat?
Speaker 1:Ooh, one hat to the other hat.
Speaker 2:I do not know, wait here.
Speaker 1:I'm going on ahead.
Speaker 2:I'm going to end with that one. Oh no, I'm going to do one more. Why did the football coach go to the bank?
Speaker 1:Because he wanted his quarterback.
Speaker 2:There you go, yay, yay.
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