The Biblical Leadership Show
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Welcome to The Biblical Leadership Show, your go-to resource for discovering timeless truths from Scripture that empower leaders to inspire, influence, and impact their world. Hosted by Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey, this podcast takes a deep dive into the Bible’s profound lessons on leadership, bringing fresh perspectives to timeless principles that resonate in today’s fast-paced, ever-changing world.
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The Biblical Leadership Show
Return to Waco: Jeremiah’s Prophetic Wisdom, Leadership Reflections, and Lively Humor
Ever find yourself returning to a place that holds special significance in your life? Join Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey, as they navigate the meaningful journey of Dr. Posey's new interim senior pastor role at First Methodist Church in Waco, Texas. This church isn't just any church; it's the same one that was pivotal in his spiritual growth during his Baylor college years. You'll hear engaging stories about his path from pre-med student to ministry leader, complete with a few dad jokes to keep things light-hearted as we discuss this full-circle moment in Dr. Posey's life.
Curious about how ancient wisdom can inform modern challenges? We dive deep into the prophetic messages of Jeremiah, exploring how his writings offer not just warnings but profound hope during dire times. With the historical backdrop of the Babylonian conquest of Jerusalem, Jeremiah's story reminds us that even when facing ruin, there's always a glimmer of restoration. We draw connections between these timeless themes and today's leadership struggles, especially during crises like the COVID-19 pandemic, offering lessons on maintaining hope and transparency.
In the midst of enlightening discussions, laughter is never far away. Join us for some witty banter as we reflect on our memorable New Year's Eve show and share a few tales from our travels, including a peculiar visit to a town boasting the world's tiniest wind turbine. We invite you to become part of our vibrant community at biblicalleadershipshow.com, where you can submit prayer requests or your favorite dad jokes. Whether you're near Waco and can see Dr. Posey in action or part of our global audience, we promise resources and inspiration to fuel your journey of joy and faith.
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Speaker 2:Damn you gotta say it Welcome, welcome, welcome. There we go.
Speaker 1:Every week we gotta do it so hey, welcome to BiblicalLeadershipShowcom I am. Tim Lansford. With me is Dr Dean Posey. Dr Dean Posey, oh my gosh. Yeah, all kinds of stuff going on in our world.
Speaker 2:It's going on all kinds of stuff going on glad to be here in the studio today yeah, I'm glad to have you here in the studio here today busy you, you are busy yes, you know this, you know.
Speaker 1:Just you know you're busy being a retired triathlon. Oh, maybe not Exactly yeah.
Speaker 2:Got to put all the triathlon training on hold, for just the swimming might be challenging and the reason that is is so we can let our audience know For the next three months. Started Sunday, but for the next three months I am the interim senior pastor at First Methodist Church in Waco.
Speaker 1:Waco Texas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so firstwacocom or org is the website. You can watch it online. Two services on Sunday morning and there's several campuses down there, but I'll be preaching at the main campus.
Speaker 1:That's pretty exciting. Yeah, because we have a lot of people that you know have been in your churches over the years. They're listeners and maybe they want to road trip a little bit. It's not a horrible drive from Dallas, you know.
Speaker 2:No, be down there an hour and you can go through Hillsborough and stop at Buc-ee's. There's a new Buc-ee's down there. There you go.
Speaker 1:I know it well. That's the way there is you know I go to Austin and all that way quite often.
Speaker 2:So yeah, there's a lot of Buc-ee's along the way there is, and so, anyway, if you're in the Waco area, stop in.
Speaker 1:Stop in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, stop in say hi, I'd love to see you. So they have a new pastor, Mike Voits, who's coming in May 1st, but the senior pastor is now working for the bishop, so they asked me to come in and fill in until the new pastor gets there, which I'm honored to do. That was the church that Diana and I went to when we were in college, down at Baylor.
Speaker 1:I was just getting ready to tell them a little the full circle of this. I thought that was the best thing about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So we went there, started freshman year and I got very involved in that church and I was a pre-med chemistry major and just one thing led to another Just got involved and got to know the pastor and one of the other clergy that was a member of that church. And sophomore year the college department did a musical for the church, godspell, and I was the director of that and played John the Baptist in that and that really made me start thinking about what I want to do. Do I want to go to med school or maybe not. And so I just felt led that God was calling me to go into the pastoral ministry and so I changed my major from chemistry. After 86 hours I changed my major from chemistry to religion and went into the ministry.
Speaker 1:Quite a big jump there.
Speaker 2:A big jump and it was the right thing to do, and so, but that was a church and so, but that was a church, and so they've, you know, they needed somebody and they called me to ask me if I would come in and do this for a couple of months, and it is full circle. You know, it's been a long time since college and but that church was very influential in my life and so it's just an honor to be down there, and some of the people that were there when I was there many years ago, are still there and you know, I'm just going to encourage them to wear sunglasses because the shine is going to be really intense.
Speaker 2:I'm going to just say hey, just bring your sunglasses, you can wear them in church you know that's great yeah, so it's going to be.
Speaker 1:I'm so excited.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm down in Waco from Saturday afternoon sometimes and they have an Airbnb for me down there, which is really nice, and then I'll stay in the church through Thursday morning and drive back, be here in the studio so we can record a podcast and be with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're not stopping the podcast. We've discussed it. We have a plan and he's going to come back and do some. I might even go down there and get some done at the church.
Speaker 2:We could meet at Bucky's.
Speaker 1:We could meet at Bucky's right in the middle of the parking lot do our church. All right, We'll put our signs out and just call it good. Maybe we can get some listeners.
Speaker 2:I mean, we can work that out with the Buc-ee's right.
Speaker 1:So bring some people to ministry, so that is so fun, but I am so excited for you. I know that. To me, especially when I found out, this is the full circle and stuff. This is just. That's just such a cool thing.
Speaker 2:It's a cool thing that God put together yeah, really good and that building. It's got a main floor and then it's got a basement and a second floor, okay, and it's a big building and it's been a long time since I've been in it, but we were there the previous Sunday just so they could introduce us to the congregation, and one of the staff members handed me a booklet okay booklet, it was a step-by-step guide on how to climb stairs.
Speaker 1:I had to throw in a dad joke just at the beginning, I know, and I haven't got my buttons going, yet oh, the buttons are still not working. I hadn't even my buttons going yet.
Speaker 2:Oh the buttons are still not working.
Speaker 1:I hadn't even looked at them. Today We've been going nonstop yeah. Yeah, that's all right. Yeah, the only thing that was weird is they were going to make you sleep in a tent outside the church On the parking lot, on the parking lot or in my car?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I was like no.
Speaker 1:No, no, they got you hooked up. So, anyway, what are we? Are we doing a dad joke or are we talking about something about that? Well, we're going to talk about that.
Speaker 2:You were looking at both there yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, if you ever see us in studio, Bozy has all his dad jokes laid out, and then he has all this show prep and everything laid out, so I never know which way he's looking, because he looks at both of them like hey which one are we going to do? Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2:So today we're focusing on one of the most significant books of the Old Testament, and that is the book of Jeremiah and the book of Lamentations. Now, historical people, scholars, many of them believe that Jeremiah wrote Lamentations. Even though there's no author identified in that book, it does talk about one of the most tragic things in the Bible and that is the destruction of Jerusalem in 586 BC by the Babylonian Empire, and it's recorded there, and so there's a lot of lament about that. And so, because of the similarities some of the similarities with the book of Jeremiah, jeremiah was at that time as well. That's why many scholars believe that Jeremiah wrote the book of Lamentations.
Speaker 1:I think on Jeremiah, he hired somebody to come and follow him around to help him write Right, exactly, correct, Okay, yeah, so he did that and that could have been the same thing.
Speaker 2:But the question is who was the actual?
Speaker 1:where did the words come from right.
Speaker 2:And so many think of Jeremiah and there's some great leadership principles there in the book and it's one of the longest books in the Old Testament. You have Ezekiel, Jeremiah, isaiah. Those are some. They're called the major prophets.
Speaker 2:I know last time we talked about the difference between the major and the minor, and it's not the significance of their message, it really is the length of their book, and so Jeremiah's got a lot of chapters. And then you talk about some of the other ones, like Hosea, micah, you know, malachi. They're shorter books. The message is just as powerful, but a lot shorter. So there's 12 minor prophets, five major prophets, and so, anyway, let's talk about Jeremiah and the leadership lessons that we got from there.
Speaker 2:And just know, for the people that might not be familiar with Jeremiah, he lived in the last part of the reign of the southern kingdom before the destruction of Jerusalem, and he really talks in the metaphor of being a shepherd. And so let's just stop right there and talk about the leadership principles, of what that means. Now, as a pastor, you're called to be not just a preacher, but you're called to be a shepherd of your people. But let's think about that as far as business. You know a shepherd if you just think of a shepherd, the shepherd takes care of the sheep.
Speaker 2:And we're not saying our employees or our co-workers are sheep, but the question is do we care for them? Do we care for the profit or do we care for the people? And so there's consequences of both. It's not that you can't care for both, but which one has priority? Yes, and we could all have nightmare stories of companies that care for the profit more than they care for the people.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, that's you know.
Speaker 2:yeah, I could tell you stories and stories about that, so you know companies that.
Speaker 1:I've worked for when I was younger. So yeah, it's just.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll tell you a story that when I was in seminary you know I needed a job and I got a job. I might have told this story before, but it's worth repeating right now because of what we're talking about. So worked for a bridge building company in Atlanta and that's when they were building Loop 285 around Atlanta. This was in the late 70s and I worked for this bridge building company and tying steel. So that was a tough job, picking up steel, tying it. We didn't have those zip guns that they have now.
Speaker 2:You had to tie it with a roll of wire and pliers. And I had to learn how to do that and I did, and at the beginning of the summer I could barely pick up rebar. I mean, by the end of the summer I learned how to do it and so I was working and we didn't have to check in. We got there. There was no time cards or anything. The boss kept track. Well, I kept track of my own hours, and so he would, you know, he would write us a check. But after I'd worked for him for you know, a couple of weeks, I noticed that I wasn't getting paid all that I should get paid, you know it was like hmm.
Speaker 1:That's interesting.
Speaker 2:That was interesting and so I confronted him about it. And so that was hard to do, but I confronted him about it and I said, hey, these are my hours and this is what you paid me. There's a little short. He just pulled, he had a wad of cash in his wallet. He just pulled it out and handed me the difference and I thought, okay, well, then it happened again and I just said I can't work for you anymore. You know, it's like obviously. I mean, he was a young guy, really smart, but his goal was to be a millionaire before he was 30. He probably made it, but I couldn't work for a guy who valued profit over his people.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so that's. It happens too often, and if you take care of your people, you're going to get the profit.
Speaker 1:You are.
Speaker 2:But sometimes it's a hard lesson for people to learn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100%. And you know similar things with me. Just, you know people, you know run, you know be executive and you know fire. All these people I'm like, well, let's just, they're brilliant people, let's repurpose them, let's find a place for them. And you know you can't save everyone. But I mean you can do a lot and we did. I mean we took this big group that was under one of our projects and really. But yeah, that went down a spiral for me because I just don't believe in that. You know you try to work as much as you can to keep everybody employed. If they've done a good job, just because they made a little money, the project's over, figure out how to hold them out and don't lose good people until the next project starts, you know.
Speaker 2:Yes, and so one of the things down in Waco, what I've told my administrative assistant and the guy that's the business manager, I said I want during my time here I know it's not long, it's only three months I want to get to know every staff person in the church. I want to spend some time with every person. Now I'm going to meet with the pastors obviously more frequently, but I want to get to know every person because I just want to know what they do. I want to know how they feel. I want to know their concerns. I want to know about their family. I just want to know about them, and it's easy to just focus on the goals and the mission and really not know what's going on in people's lives.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And so we have a choice. I know it takes time to do that, but people will really be loyal if they know you care about them. You care about not just their production, but you care about their person.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And so the question is as a leader, how are we showing that we might be saying it, but do we really take time to do it? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, the talk afterwards made me think. I knew I had a thought that, yeah, over the weekend I just spoke at a bridge building conference as the keynote, so I'm you know.
Speaker 2:I share some war stories from you. I forgot about your bridge building. That's what.
Speaker 1:I did over the weekend, talked to you at a big conference for somebody, a big company, on that, so anyway, just made me think of it before I forgot to tell you that. So anyway. So this Jeremiah here, now, the way it's laid out, it tells a story of you know, he knew that Babylon was going to come. It was sort of the way I understood it. It was sort of words of good and words of bad, sort of do this but expect this, right, and so it was sort of a good and bad.
Speaker 1:And then it tells the whole story of the, that, um, the, the taking over of Jerusalem, right, the downfall, and but then it ends with poems at the end or something. And that's what made me wonder if that's what rolled into, uh, limitations, you know, going through that, because that's sort of the alphabet poems or whatever they call it. You know where they do that. So so that was a unique one. So I sort of pieced those together and I just figured I'd ask your thought on that before we go too far down this rabbit hole.
Speaker 2:Well, one thing about the prophets that's pretty consistent is that, even though it might just be the last sentence or the last half a chapter in their book, they always want to leave a message of hope.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And that's pretty consistent with all the prophets, and some have more hope than others, but there's always a message of hope, like, okay, this is going to happen, but this is not the end. You're you know, the bad thing doesn't have to be the final chapter.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And so that's a pretty consistent. It's not just through the prophets, it's through the Bible. Things are gonna happen, but the bad thing doesn't have to be the final chapter, it doesn't have to be the final chapter of the company, it doesn't have to be the final chapter of your life. And so Jeremiah was big on that, and all the prophets were big on that, Even though it was really sad what was happening with the destruction of Jerusalem. You think about a city, this massive city, and the Babylonian army came in and literally just tore down leveled it to the ground and deported the people, not everybody.
Speaker 2:Some people stayed in the land, but the city was just in shambles, these big, massive stones that some of them were as big as this room right here, they were gone. I mean they just were tumbled. And just to watch that and know you try to tell people, hey, if you want to keep doing what you're doing, this is going to be the result and you know they're not going to change and you can just see in your heart and your spirit the consequences of their actions and you can't do anything about it.
Speaker 2:It's like we've all been on the freeway, okay, we've all done this. We're driving down the freeway and the lanes that we're going in are clear as anything. But on the opposite side, going the other direction, is a wreck, okay, and the line is piled up for miles. Well, five miles down the road, you can't stop and tell the people hey there's a wreck, you're going to have to wait for a while.
Speaker 2:It's like that with Jeremiah and other prophets. They were trying to warn the people for a long time. Hey, turn back to God, let's get about the mission, let's focus on God being the God. And they didn't listen and the consequences were what they were, which is really tragic.
Speaker 1:Listen and the consequences were you know what they were which is really tragic, but they ended Jeremiah with hope because they invited the king back right to sit at the table.
Speaker 2:I think, right, yeah, exactly right at the very end, and so, anyway, yeah.
Speaker 1:That was very symbolic, I think.
Speaker 2:right, you know, I don't know if Well, it's at the very end of the book and the king who was deported. He gets to sit at the king's table, eat a bit of food and it's like, okay, this is bad, but there's going to be some hope for the people, there's going to be a restore. The people were deported. They were there for 70 years. That's a long time. Some people were born in Babylon and they died in Babylon. They never got to see Jerusalem, they never got to go back, and then when the people went back, they built the temple, but it was a while before we have a Nehemiah coming and help rebuild the walls, and so that city was in shambles for a long time and just the devastation living around that devastation how depressing is that. And I haven't met too many people that like disorder in their lives. We like order and we like things clean and that kind of thing, but they lived in a city that was just rubble for a while, and so Jeremiah's saying no, this is not the way the story ends this is not the
Speaker 2:way the story ends. That's awesome. Yeah, so Jeremiah, chapter 29,. Verse 11 is maybe one of the most quoted verses in the Old Testament. The most quoted verses in the Old Testament and this is a powerful verse. He's writing to the people that were there in Babylon and he says for I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans to prosper you and not to harm you. Plans to give you a hope and a future. I've seen that verse quoted in so many different contexts and what a great message for leaders.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Because just think about what was happening with COVID a couple years ago. Thank goodness we're behind that past, all that, but there's going to be times when times are tough in business.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And the question is as a leader I'm not saying we have to be Pollyannish, no, we don't have to be fake, but the question is are we going to give hope to our people?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have to cast that vision, that little glimmer that the future is bright, you know, and keep dangling that carrot to motivate people to keep going.
Speaker 2:That's exactly right, and so that's what Jeremiah was doing. He said hey, I know this happened. Okay, I know this is where you are, but there's going to be a hope and a future if you rely upon the Lord, and so I think that's a great leadership principle to hold out to people in difficult times in difficult times.
Speaker 2:And so the leader a good leader holds on to the vision of whether things are good, whether things are bad. You know, they keep the vision, and that's what Jeremiah was trying to do the whole time is trying to keep the people focused on the vision of worshiping God. They didn't do it and the consequences were disastrous and he said okay, you're going to get through this and there's going to be a bright future ahead of you.
Speaker 1:So yeah, just a little glimmer of hope. So.
Speaker 2:Glimmer of hope and restoration. And you know, sometimes we have, as we have to make difficult decisions like laying off people, cutting our budget, cutting a project line product line, you know something downscaling.
Speaker 2:But even when we have to make those tough decisions, the question is are we going to be a person of doom and gloom or are we going to be a person of hope in the future? John Maxwell said it really well. He said everything rises and falls on leadership, and the leader of the organization sets the tone for that. It's not just your words, it's your tone of your voice, it's your actions. There's so much about your persona. So much about your persona is communicated nonverbally, and so that's really, really important for the leader. That's awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so let's talk a little bit about lamentations. Yeah, you bet Lamentations. Yeah, I said that right. So this is sort of a poetic expression of all the sorrow and the mourning and the destruction, really of the city, of the city of Jerusalem.
Speaker 2:That is correct. And Lamentations if you look at it and read it in a certain way, you can see that it really focuses a lot on the consequences of negative leadership, and so there's always consequences, whether it's negative or positive leadership, and so the writer was trying to encourage the people to be faithful to God. So in a non-biblical sense it's like are you faithful to your vision? Are you faithful to your mission? And so Lamentations was just lamenting over the fact that they weren't and the sorrow they experienced because of bad decisions. Over Now. This didn't happen in like a day or a week or a year. It happened over time, of generations of time. And so just thinking about that, think about the companies that are not willing to embrace new technology.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And they make a decision. That decision might not affect them for the next year, two, five years, but it might affect them five years from now because they made a decision about no, we're not going to upgrade our computers, or we're not going to use AI, or we're not going to do this or we're not going to do that, and the consequences can be significant down the road.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100%. Yeah. I saw Lamentations as one of those things that you know leaders sort of has to acknowledge that. You know we fail sometimes. It was my. We went down this path, like you said, you know, and as bad as it is, there's still we can regroup from this. You know we can persevere through all our challenges and come out on top, and you know that perseverance through the hard times is what really spoke to me on this chapter.
Speaker 2:Yes, and one of the things that I think we can learn from this even though we didn't really see it in the Bible, and that is accountability and transparency with leaders. And so if we make a bad decision, in whatever category, are we going to own it? Are we going to try to just blame it on someone else? And it's too often happens that we make a bad decision, affects someone's life or this or job or performance or whatever, and we point fingers instead of saying you know what? I made a bad call on that, that's my fault, I own it. I'm really sorry. Let's regroup and let's all learn from that. And that takes a good leader to admit that. Now. It doesn't mean you don't have to face the consequences of that decision, but people will respect you if you just actually admit that, hey, I made a bad decision and we didn't see that in the Bible. They just kept doing what they were doing and unfortunately, they experienced some really sad consequences of that.
Speaker 1:Right, and it says in there, lamentations 3-40,. Let us examine our ways and test them and let us return to the Lord. And I thought that was a uh uh one that you know you can look at accountability. You know, reflection of, of maybe a pathway went down. How many times have you heard of companies that maybe went down a path and and, uh, it didn't work out? You know, and, or this project or a new vendor or something like that, and and you had to flip around 100% and said, all right, we made a mistake. We're going back to how many, I mean, there's been big businesses lately that have done this and and uh, I'm not going to really get into it, but they big marketing ads and different things, like they went, wait a second. You know, uh, we lost everybody. You know, let's go back to uh, you, we thought this was going to work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we made a mistake and it didn't work.
Speaker 1:So there's been a lot of stuff in there. I just thought that one really spoke to me on that as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but sometimes leaders are afraid to make mistakes, yeah, and so because they're paralyzed, and then they don't make hard decisions. I was just in a conversation with someone yesterday about a leader and I won't say who, because that wouldn't be fair. They're unwilling to make hard decisions and it's like no, you're the leader, you need to make hard decisions.
Speaker 1:Tell them to call me. I got them. I love that I can take it on.
Speaker 2:But part of being a leader. And here's the thing if you are in the leadership position, the people that are around you okay, are you training them to make hard decisions, or are they always deferring to you? Are they always training them to make hard decisions? Are they always deferring to you? So to me, that's part of a good leader is, you know, we train our people, our assistants or co-manager, whatever it may be Are they afraid to make hard decisions? And I've said this just not too long ago Decisions have to be made about an organization, big or small. That's just part of it. The question is, who gets to make them?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And if you have a person in a leadership role that is unwilling to make decisions, maybe they don't need to be in that role. They might be in the wrong seat on the bus, you know. And so you have to think okay, how can I use that talent, maybe in another area of the organization?
Speaker 1:Exactly right. And then I was trying to figure out when Lamentations maybe got. You know all these poems got wrote and you know I think it was written in the morning.
Speaker 2:I knew that was coming.
Speaker 1:I can see it on your face. I had to change.
Speaker 2:We just have to transition to dad jokes.
Speaker 1:We do.
Speaker 2:Okay, so here's the thing. What's a tree's favorite dating app? A tree's favorite dating app.
Speaker 1:Bark something right.
Speaker 2:Timber.
Speaker 1:Timber, all right.
Speaker 2:Oh, so we were in Louisville.
Speaker 1:I'm so sad my buttons don't work here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know we were at my nephew's house a little after Christmas and they have a dog, dee Dee, just a great dog. I mean this dog is really awesome, but she is so cuddly she will start leaning on you and then they say, watch out, she's going to timber and she just falls.
Speaker 1:It just timbers over. I love those dogs. Oh my gosh, they come crashing down.
Speaker 2:Well, just to make sure we're all clear, I'm going to put my glasses on.
Speaker 1:Oh boy, oh boy. I got to get my buttons going. I'll work on that. I'll see if I can't get them going by next week.
Speaker 2:Okay, so how did Reese eat her ice cream? How did Reese eat her ice cream?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Withers, spoon your buttons. We maybe need to get a new control board or something. Something, I mean, we're really missing.
Speaker 1:I think our audience is saying where are the buttons? Maybe I'll have to figure that out by far. Yeah, exactly. Well, I mean, people have asked us why. You know that's. Why do I like dad jokes?
Speaker 2:right. You know why do you know? Why do you tell them? Why do you like?
Speaker 1:them and I said that's just the way how I roll, it's just how I roll.
Speaker 2:Can I do?
Speaker 1:something. Yeah, go ahead, you know.
Speaker 2:No, no, that's going to be bad. So my wife she makes some awesome food and she has this one recipe for Jell-O that uses baby food. I'm being serious, this is not a joke. It's like orange Jell-O, baby food, apricots or mandarin oranges or something. It's really delicious. But what brand of baby food do pirates prefer for their pirate babies?
Speaker 1:I like pirate jokes, gerber.
Speaker 2:Gerber, yes, we are missing the third person of the podcast, and that is the buttons. I know right, you know several years ago I had a hot rod pickup.
Speaker 1:You did. I did have a hot rod Very bad to the bone pickup, yeah it was a 55 Ford F100 351 Cleveland Corvette rear end.
Speaker 2:It was a really nice truck and I had that for a lot of years. But I was in a car club, the Christian Classic Cruisers, and for a while I was their DJ. Okay, but I had to take a course on learning how to be a DJ, but I barely scratched the surface.
Speaker 1:Maybe we should just end on that. Yeah, we can. We can give them a, give them a little replete reprieve this week, you know, just to let them off the hook. So I see you looking, you're gonna hold off, right? Yeah, I'm gonna hold off, I can't I can't just stop.
Speaker 2:You know, I understand, I just don't want to.
Speaker 1:If you go back and listen to our New Year's Eve show, that was pretty much all jokes the whole time. So like it or hate it, if you like dad jokes, we actually had some good ones that time, yeah, so driving back and forth to Waco. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay. So if you're driving back and forth to Waco, so if you're driving back and forth to Waco, there's a little town that has the world's tiniest wind turbine exhibit. Honestly, I'm not a big fan. Maybe we should end on that. Maybe we should end in five minutes. Yeah, we probably should.
Speaker 1:Everybody's like before. You did that joke.
Speaker 2:It was really good. Just talk about the Bible. Yeah, we probably should have, but you know everybody's like before you did that. It was really good, just talk about the Bible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, check us out biblicalleadershipshowcom and come out see Dr Posey do a little taco around the Waco area. I know we have some people across the world but especially we've got some in Texas down here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and if you can't do that, it's online at. First Methodist Waco and I'd love to have your comment. Send me an email. Send it to the biblicalleadershipshowcom. Email text us whatever it takes, and we'd love to have your prayer requests or dad jokes please.
Speaker 1:Yes, exactly right, that'd be, nice. All right, check us out biblicalleadershipshowcom and Dr Posey, take us out. Make it a great day. Thank you,
