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The Encouragement Blueprint: What Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi Teach Us
What leadership lessons can we learn from Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi—the final three prophets of the Old Testament? Their stories offer remarkable wisdom for anyone tasked with rebuilding something from rubble.
When the Jewish people returned to Jerusalem after exile, they faced overwhelming challenges. Their temple was destroyed, city walls collapsed, and community spirit broken. Enter these three prophets who helped transform this dire situation through distinct but complementary leadership approaches: prioritizing mission, leading with vision, and maintaining integrity.
Great leaders understand that confronting seemingly insurmountable tasks requires more than barking orders. As Dr. P explains, "Different people need encouragement in different ways." Some team members respond to a handwritten note, others need your physical presence alongside them doing the hard work. The prophets demonstrate that leaders must adapt their approach to each individual while keeping everyone focused on the shared mission.
Perhaps the most powerful lesson comes from understanding how leaders must help others see beyond current circumstances. Whether you're building a house where clients can't envision the finished product through framed studs, or guiding a team through organizational change, your ability to paint a compelling vision of the future determines whether people persevere or give up. As Dr. P notes, "Great leaders offer hope and vision beyond what is seen."
This episode wraps up our journey through the Old Testament with practical wisdom about encouragement, visualization, consistent communication, and leading with integrity. Join us next week as we begin exploring leadership lessons from the New Testament, starting with the Gospel of Matthew.
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Speaker 2:There we go. That's what we're talking about how you doing Dr B, I am doing fantastic. Oh my gosh, oh my goodness, I know I said this last time, but it is so good to be back in the studio.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just amazing how it happens I get to see you a couple weeks in a row and hang out with you. That's so good it's just good to see you. I don't have to be on this computer looking at you. I can razz you. I can see how many hundreds of thousands of dad jokes you brought today.
Speaker 2:Let's see I'm down to about 400. Yes, but I've got one that's so appropriate because of the time of year. Oh yeah, yeah, you know. So springtime. So what's the best time of the year to play on a trampoline? Springtime, yes, there we go. I'm just guessing the obvious answer.
Speaker 1:It's not summertime. Hey guys, welcome. Welcome If you're first joining us. Hopefully you're not.
Speaker 2:We're finishing out the Old Testament today right we are, we are finishing out the Old Testament. We can't do it without some dad jokes, but we are finishing out the Old Testament today. Right we are, we are finishing out the Old Testament.
Speaker 1:We can't do it without some dad jokes, but we are finishing out the Old Testament, we're going to get the dad jokes for sure, right, and if you're not familiar, we're doing a whole series, year-long series, on all the chapters of the Bible, sort of summarizing and throwing them into leadership lessons that you could use in modern day life. And we're throwing a lot of dad jokes in there. Now you got to understand. Dr P has been out away from the studio. We took a little hiatus there while he was doing some ministry work running a church down in Waco.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yep and I was on travel, so it worked out good, but we're back in studio as of last week and he is Dad Joke.
Speaker 2:Jones, they've been piling up.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, he's been doing his research and he's just been printing out paper and he's like, oh, I'm ready to come back, I am ready, ready, ready.
Speaker 2:I'm ready to come back. I am ready, ready, ready. And if you are here for the first time and you didn't have a chance to listen to our podcast last week on Esther, I encourage you to do that, because what an incredible woman she was, and also her relative Mordecai, and they offer some amazing lessons on leadership that I think are so important for today.
Speaker 2:That's what we try to do every week when we go through the books of the Bible. We pull out. There's lots of things we could discuss, but our focus is what does each of the people you know, the people of the Old Testament, the books of the Bible what do they teach us about leadership that we can apply to today? Now, we're not just talking about leadership of a company, even though that's true. You could be leading a softball team, you could be leading a scout troop, you could be leading a nonprofit, you could be leading a fundraiser, you could be leading your family. You know you could be leading a group of yoga people. You know you could be a group of people that work out at the gym or a pickleball court or something.
Speaker 2:So there's leadership principles that what we try to do is do a broad spectrum through a large net and yet try to relate it to today. What is the Bible? And I think it's so important to realize that the Bible does relate to our lives today, and that's what we're trying to do. That was one of the number one questions that I had in my ministry was how does the Bible relate to my life today? And we try to answer that every week on our podcast and specifically focusing on leadership. And so now we're finishing the Old Testament, excited to do that, and we'll start the New Testament next week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think the thing just to add on to that before we switch gears is the Bible. I've read it at different points in different life and it always reads different depending on where you're at. I think that's one of the coolest things about that. I mean, you pick out different things every time you pick up a book and read it.
Speaker 2:Yes, and so you can just read it like a book, like a novel, and that's good to do that if you just want to read. I led a church one time reading the entire Bible in 90 days. That was a lot of reading. But here's the thing If you read it in a year which is good or if you read it and it takes several years to read, you don't always connect the Old Testament to the New Testament. So when you read it that fast, like a novel, you just read it for reading's sake.
Speaker 2:You begin to see how the Old Testament and the New Testament work together as one book.
Speaker 2:Now yes, there are 66 books, a lot of different authors over thousands of years of time, but they all have a common theme, and that is there is a God and we're not Him, and that God loves His people and sent a Savior, his Son, named Jesus, to die for our sins. And he died, he was buried, he rose to death so he could give us the gift of eternal life. So that whole message we can even find in the Old Testament, and so the messages that we try to bring across on our podcast every week, in addition to dad jokes, is how does this Bible apply to my life? You know I might be leading a pickup basketball league every Thursday night. What does that mean for me?
Speaker 2:Well, integrity and all those kind of stuff are so important. You know your language, how you treat other people. That's so, so important. And the consequences? That's what we talked about last week with Esther. You know there are consequences to everything, and sometimes we can choose those consequences and many times we can't, and so that's what we try to do every week, and we're glad that you're here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100%. We'll throw one more dad joke in there and then let's tell these good people what we're going to do today.
Speaker 2:So why did the hammer go to the doctor?
Speaker 1:Something about a nail probably.
Speaker 2:Because he hit his head.
Speaker 1:Oh man, I'm going to give a construction street cred on the construction.
Speaker 2:I like that one. Yeah, you're a construction guy. Yeah one, I watched the video.
Speaker 1:Construction guy yeah, I watched the video the other day. The guy was juggling, he had a nail in the ceiling and he was juggling hammers and I don't know if his ar not if he was really doing it, but he was throwing it up and he was hitting the, the hammer, the nail, and he was actually driving it in in the ceiling. So I was trying to watch it, didn't? It looked pretty real. But I mean, you never know.
Speaker 2:AIs come a lot pretty good there and some of those jugglers are pretty solid.
Speaker 1:I would think if it hit the nail it would throw it off coming down. So that's why I was like, well, maybe, maybe not, but if it was there, but anyway, that would be a heck of a trick if you can do it. So where are we going on this? We're finishing up the Old Testament this week and we've been doing the Old Testament a little bit different, you know, because we mentioned this, you know last couple weeks and Esther and a couple times before. So catch the people up how we're doing the Old Testament.
Speaker 2:Well, we did not necessarily do it in order, even though these last three books are the last three books of the Old Testament. Do it in order, even though these last three books are the last three books of the Old Testament. We did it more of a chronological but also thematic. So we did the first several books in order and then we started just kind of pairing up like a major prophet and a minor prophet. So let's just talk about that for just a minute In the Old Testament.
Speaker 2:First of all, there are 66 books in the Bible. You have the Old Testament and the New Testament. First of all, there are 66 books in the Bible. You have the Old Testament and the New Testament, old Testament before Jesus, new Testament with Jesus and afterwards. In the Old Testament there are a section toward the end, or really from the middle back of the Old Testament. There are prophets, and prophets were people from God that heard from God and shared the knowledge with people. A lot of it was to help the people turn back to God because they had turned away from God. And so in the Old Testament we see that there are four major prophets Some people think five, depending upon who they believe wrote the book of Lamentations, but many people believe that Jeremiah wrote that.
Speaker 2:So four major prophets and 12 minor prophets, and minor not meaning that they're less valuable. Minor meaning their books are a lot shorter, okay. So when you have Ezekiel or Jeremiah or Isaiah, those books so when you have Ezekiel or Jeremiah or Isaiah, those books, you know they're 30, 40, you know 50 chapters long. You know, when you have the book of Haggai, that's two chapters. Zechariah, 14 chapters. Malachi, four chapters the message is still very powerful, still very relevant, but the text is just a lot shorter, so let me just give a historical background a little bit. Hopefully it's not too boring, but it's so important to know the historical context of these two.
Speaker 2:And so the the first two, haggai and some people pronounce it Hag-ay-ay and Zechariah, if you're not familiar with biblical history, in 586, the Babylonian Empire came in and destroyed the city of Jerusalem, deported thousands of people to Babylon, away from Israel, okay. And then in 539, the Persian Empire conquered the Babylonians, and so, back in 538, the Jewish people were allowed to start going back to Jerusalem. Well, when the Babylonians conquered Jerusalem, they destroyed the temple. So one of the very first things that the Jewish people wanted to do was to rebuild the temple, and so that happened, starting in the 530 area. And so Haggai and Zech people to finish the temple. It was a massive project.
Speaker 1:It was pretty much in ruins, yeah, it was in ruins.
Speaker 2:They had to clear out the rubble. They had to do that. And you know how some things are. When it's just you walk in, you're maybe a new COO, or you walk into a company and it's just in shambles. Or you get up. You get up, you're excited about starting your business and you find a place to rent, and you walk in with a realtor and the place is just a total wreck.
Speaker 1:Too overwhelming.
Speaker 2:It is so overwhelming you don't even know where to start, okay. Well, the first thing before you touch anything is to make sure you have a good attitude about it and to say I want to do this, okay. And so Haggai and Zechariah were prophets from God, and their real purpose that we see in their writings was to just encourage the people to do what they wanted to do. And so, to me, I think what a great leadership principle that part of good leaders encourage people to do hard work, okay. It doesn't mean that you have to work them 20 hours a day, it doesn't mean that you have to abuse your people or anything like that, but you encourage them to do what they want to do anyway and hold them accountable. And that was, you know. Sometimes that's hard to do for leaders to hold people accountable and like no, you know you can have a break, but your break's only 15 minutes.
Speaker 2:Or you know your lunch period is only 45 minutes. And or you know what. We're going to bring our lunch in for the next week so that we can share lunch together. We're going to have 30-minute lunch. We're going to eat 30-minute lunch. We're going to eat lunch and talk and then we're all going to get back to work because we've got to focus on this project. We have a deadline by Friday at 5. But leaders, they don't just dictate, they're not just autocratic. Sometimes that's important, but a lot of times it's not. But encouragement is always important.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's what it really was. It was overwhelming. People were working on their house more than they were working on the temple, and it was then when they sort of got focused. The work on the temple was slow. It's discouraging, you know.
Speaker 1:You need that encouragement and I think that's one of the things that I put down is great leaders offer hope and vision beyond what is seen. A lot of times we as entrepreneurs, we as the leaders, we have a vision but we don't express it to our people. Or sometimes we do and we get buy-in. But no matter what, you've got to keep encouraging those people, because sometimes they just don't get it, even though if you've explained it, you, you, you. This is your calling, this is that nagging we talked about last. You know last week that it's something that's nagging on you and you've got to go and encourage these people. You've got to offer that, that, that that hope and that vision beyond what they can see with their own two eyes, cause a lot of times people can't see.
Speaker 1:I get this in construction right, and we've talked about it before. When I'm framing a house and we'll be standing there, I'm like, well, where are you going to put your bed in this master bedroom. They're like where's the master bedroom? I'm like where are you standing in it? They go this is a kitchen, right? I go no, this is your master bedroom. And they go what? No, even with frame up, my brain works and it's fine. But until sheetrock goes up, people still can't envision their house with just studs there. So you've got to paint that picture, sometimes with people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you have to paint it over and over. And here's the thing For leaders sometimes leaders can get frustrated if they have to repeat the same thing over and over. And so the question is how can I communicate and encourage that brings the most return of that effort? And that doesn't mean or it does mean, I'm sorry to say, it does mean that sometimes different people need encouragement in different ways. Okay, sometimes people just need a note, sometimes people they just want an encouraging word, sometimes people need you to be right there with them to do that. And so you know.
Speaker 2:That brings me—let's just go back into the Scripture, because this is all happening around 520 BC. Okay, now the temple was finished in 516 BC, so it's not like a one-month project. I mean, it was several years of project. Then we fast forward about 60 years Now we have the temple done, but the city is still in ruins. Okay, the walls are still broken down, this massive wall around the city. So Ezra the priest comes, nehemiah comes back to Jerusalem in around 445 BC. So think about this the temple and the whole wall of the city was destroyed in 586 BC. We're talking like almost 150 years that the walls of the city were in shambles. We're talking about from 586 to 520 that the temple was in shambles. So you're talking 60, 70 years that the temple was just in shambles. And sometimes it's hard, like you just said, for people to see beyond the rubble, to see what's possible, and so it's so important to do baby steps. You're getting that big warehouse. You're renting a 25,000-square-foot warehouse for your business because you want to move and you walk in and you see this warehouse hasn't been occupied in decades, maybe whatever, and it's like you can't clean it up in a day and you might not be able to do it by yourself, and so you've got to evaluate it and you get in there.
Speaker 2:And what we see in Nehemiah, which we talked about many, many weeks ago, was Nehemiah just didn't sit back and encourage the people. He was actually there helping them build the wall. So encouragement for some people means you're right there with them, doing the hard work with them. You're not just standing off in your office encouraging them to do the work. You're actually sweating, rolling up your sleeves and doing the work too, and that speaks volumes to people that you are encouraging. You know that you work with, that. You're willing to do the hard work too. You're not just the boss, you're not just shouting out instructions, you're actually doing that.
Speaker 2:So here we have Haggai and Zechariah. They're in 520. Then Malachi comes in, almost a hundred years later. Okay Now. So we have the temple's done. The walls of the city are still in ruins. You have Ezra coming in. He's the priest. Nehemiah is the new governor. The story of Nehemiah is a phenomenal story, and they rebuild the wall. But he was not just there to rebuild the wall. He was encouraging people to get back to their faith and you know, reform their religion, get back to God, those kind of things. And so he returned to Persia in around 433 BC, and that's the time that Malachi was there. And Malachi sees the people have turned away from God. So their temple's there, the city is being rebuilt, the walls are rebuilt, but the faith of the people has turned away from God, and that's what started. The whole problem with the Jewish people centuries before was their unfaithfulness to God, their unfaithfulness to their mission and to their first priority.
Speaker 2:And so part of the leader's job is to keep people focused on the mission, the vision what is our outcome objective of our organization? Mission, the vision what is our outcome objective of our organization? So it's not just encouraging people to do the daily task, it's to help them say, okay, what's the bigger purpose of our organization? We're not just here punching a clock, you know. We're not just here making widgets. What is our purpose? And so I think for you as a builder you're you know you want these people to just see their house as a completed project. You know, because it can be discouraging over time, especially if you're building a big house and it takes a year or so to build it. They just get discouraged and you just got to keep encouraging them.
Speaker 2:Now it's coming along it's doing good and come out and see what we're doing and you know whatever. So can you just? I know you've dealt with that a lot yeah, yeah, and that's the way it is.
Speaker 1:I mean, you're, you're always going to have that people and, and that's why I said the difference between, like a custom builder compared to a production builder that never has to deal with any clients, compared to a subcontractor, that's in and out in two, three, four days, maybe a week.
Speaker 1:You know I have to spend anywhere from a year, from six months, to a year and a half, maybe two years, on some of these really huge compounds. And you know it's a process and you know one of the biggest things is communication and if long as you're communicating, you're talking about the process. But still, no matter how good of a communicator and how good at this, there's always going to be things that are going to come up and you're going to have to work through them. And it's like a roller coaster. And I was thinking about this. If you come into a temple, that's just been there, it's a norm. It's been there for 150-plus years, right, you're just looking at this rubble. I mean, that would be an overwhelming task to come in to go find. And I look at some of these houses. You know they post these like this vacant house. You know you've ever seen those?
Speaker 1:things those vacant things that they just disappeared in the landscape and they've been vacant for, you know, hundreds of years. But I mean there are huge mansions out in there, russia, and all these places. I'm like how did I?
Speaker 2:get one of those, you know, because they're just sitting there.
Speaker 1:But I mean just to think about how to go through and take one of those houses and redo to live in it. Or you know these people that take these old missile silos and they convert them into houses below ground.
Speaker 1:It's just. That is a huge undertaking and you know, and to do it, it's one of those things that you have to have a lot of faith and I, in my little show prep, I think this really prioritized how these chapters tied together, because you mentioned you want to tie these chapters together and, you know, put the little exclamation on that, and Haggai is prioritizing God's mission, zechariah is leading with vision and encouragement, and then Malachi is confronting compromise and calling for integrity, and I think that's you know what's the mission, the vision and what's the. You know how to encourage those people and then you know how do you get the compromise and make sure they're doing a good job. I think that's business in general. When I started looking at these and some of the leadership lessons that come out of these, they tie in really nice together.
Speaker 2:They really do. And so the you know I think the you know that these three prophets, they challenged the people, they motivated the people, they encouraged the people to do something that was really, really difficult, but looking back on it, they knew when they were finished, you know, when that last whatever was put in place that they thought, wow, it was worth every bit of our effort. And that's what you want to do as a leader you want to look back and say, wow, that was not just you, but your people. You wanted them to look back and say, wow, that was hard, but we did it and we did it together and we're really proud of the work that we did. Now, what we don't know obviously, these books are short, like Haggai is only two chapters long and Malachi is four chapters, zechariah is 14 chapters. We can look at the themes. We obviously don't know all the words that they said, and so to me, that is a challenge for us to say okay, I know I'm supposed to encourage and I just said this a few minutes ago Different people encourage different ways, and so you need to find out how to encourage your people, because for some, they're just motivated because you bought them coffee this morning.
Speaker 2:They're excited Other people. They need you to sit down and listen because they might be going through a difficult time in their personal life or whatever. Or you know it's time for graduations now. You have college graduations and high school graduations and they might just be thinking about that, that's on their mind, or whatever, and you just have to sit down and go. Yeah, I understand that. That's so exciting. Do you need a day off? Because to be with your son or daughter who's graduating? Why don't you take a day off? We'll see you on Monday and enjoy the weekend with your family. Come back and let's get after it. For some people, that's what it's going to take to have them realize that you really care about them. You don't just care about the project, you don't just care about the process, you care about each individual person, and that, to me, is such an important part of leadership is that it's caring, not just accomplishment.
Speaker 1:Okay, Right, so yeah, yeah, well, you know, this is a. I like the way we we put these together. I think it's a good. It's a good order. I think it's a good read. I think it's a short read if one of people want to go back and look at some of these and and I think that you know these, these there's a lot of verses and leadership lessons in there, that sort of the backbone of you know some of the leadership principles that we talk about all the time.
Speaker 2:Yes, that is so true, that is awesome.
Speaker 1:Let's see we. You know we're pushing on there. I mean we could cut like two minutes early and give you some more dad joke time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we could. Okay, here's one. Here's one, let's just. Let's just transition. Here's one, let's just transition. I saw him jonesing over there Salivating Okay, why was the ice cream cone so bad at tennis?
Speaker 1:Oh, don't know.
Speaker 2:Because he always had soft serve.
Speaker 1:Oh my, gosh, I can't, I can't.
Speaker 2:Oh come on, I can't.
Speaker 1:Sometimes they hit me good, Sometimes like hmm.
Speaker 2:You know, I have a pen right here.
Speaker 1:Yes, I see that.
Speaker 2:That can write underwater. Oh, I think I've heard this one, but it can also write other words too.
Speaker 1:I was like what is that one?
Speaker 2:What is that one? You've heard that one before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was trying to remember it right, okay, okay. Let's see, do I have any good ones there?
Speaker 2:Okay, what do you call a loaf of bread that has 52 slices?
Speaker 1:Loaf of bread that has 52 slices. Yeah, yearly something.
Speaker 2:A deck of carbs All right. I went down weeks, you went down carbs.
Speaker 1:All right, that's fine. Yeah, let's see. When is a door not a door?
Speaker 2:Oh yes. I'm thinking the old school ones right, yes, okay, when is a door not a door? I don't know when it's open.
Speaker 1:You get it when it's in your vehicle, no when it's a jar.
Speaker 2:When it's a jar, door is open, right?
Speaker 1:Oh yes, what is the oldest tree?
Speaker 2:oldest tree. It's actually a brittle stone pine. But we, what is the we're all?
Speaker 2:answer the elder, the elder, uh-huh okay, so if you actually go I can't remember the name of the national park it's in utah, bristol, comb pine, some those trees. You have to walk up this little hill. This is a true story and I'm thinking it's in Canyonlands, maybe National Park, one of those up in that area. Some of those trees literally are 4,000 years old and you can go up there and they have these signs on the trees or right next to the trees to say this tree started growing when David was king of Israel or when.
Speaker 1:Julius Caesar lived.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is absolutely phenomenal. And these trees are up on this hill and the wind's blowing all the time, so they have all these amazing shapes and they're so slow growing. But if you look up the bristlecone pine, they have all these weird amazing shapes like artwork. You know you see them in a painting or something, but they're actually up there on this mountain and you just walk and there's just a whole bunch of them just in that one spot and it is definitely worth if you're out in that area I think it is Canyonlands National Park that you can go up there and see that. So those are probably the elder trees you're talking about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, probably. Have you ever traveled? Have you ever been to the Red Sea?
Speaker 2:Yes, I was. Years ago, I was there.
Speaker 1:Do you know, if you threw a white stone in a Red Sea, what it would become?
Speaker 2:A splash.
Speaker 1:Wet, close to wet. You know, I was at the pawn shop.
Speaker 2:I was at the pawn shop, that's better. Okay, that's better. Okay, I went into the pawn shop the other day because I wanted to get a really good used guitar. Okay, I already have two guitars but I want another one. And this one guy came out and he said here it is. And I said wait a minute, there's no strings attached to that one.
Speaker 1:Oh, let's see, I'll give it to you oh that's a bad one.
Speaker 2:That's a bad one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we need to have some groaners.
Speaker 2:They can't always be that good.
Speaker 1:They can't always be good. All right, I guess.
Speaker 2:You got one more, you got, you get one more, and I'll get one more.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:Okay, here's my last one for the day.
Speaker 1:Are we finishing?
Speaker 2:up. The Old Testament Got to have a good one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is the Old Testament. We're finishing up the Old Testament.
Speaker 2:An Old Testament dad joke. Oh there are so many of them, okay, okay, I wanted to start a professional hide-and-seek team, but good players are hard to find.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was good. Right, I'll just look at it. I was just looking at some of those. Why didn't they play cards on the arc?
Speaker 2:Because they already had a pair.
Speaker 1:Because Noah was always standing on the deck. Oh, I know that's what he wants to do. Why was the Pharaoh so stubborn? We'll go on this one.
Speaker 2:Okay, why.
Speaker 1:Because he had denial issues.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, let's stop on this one. Okay, why? Because he had denial issues. Oh that, yeah, let's stop on that one, please. Oh, that's what we get. That is definitely a groaner. All right, guys, check us out.
Speaker 1:Biblical leadership show. Yeah, I'm sorry, we're back in the studio be like dang, I thought these guys were packing it up, please, no, we still got the rest of the year on the New Testament, which we're going to start next week. Right Next week, we're starting the book of Matthew.
Speaker 2:Matthew Now here's the thing about Matthew. Just give our listeners a little heads up. Some of the books like Matthew, luke, john Acts some of those books like Matthew 28 chapters it might be challenging for us, as we do show prep, to do all of the book in one lesson, I mean in one podcast. So for some of them we're going to break them up into two just because there's so much good material.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we don't want to just brush over them just because we're on a time schedule. We don't have a time schedule. We're just trying to make sure we go as thorough as we can and make sure that all fits in the box on this, because there's so many leadership lessons to learn out of these.
Speaker 2:There are so many, and we're trying not to repeat the same lesson. We're looking at different aspects of it, and so I hope that you join us next week as we begin the New Testament.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but other than that, check us out biblicalleadershipshowcom. Let us know if there's anything we can say a prayer about, anything that we can do, any kind of subject you want us to throw in there, or if you have some leadership lessons coming up in the New Testament that it's strong to you. I, you have some leadership lessons coming up in the new testament. That it's it's strong to you. I know we've heard from a lot of you. I know we got people all over the country that are listening. So, uh, just let us know what resonates with you, and and we would love to uh give you a shout out, but other than that well, tell someone else about the podcast if you're enjoying it.
Speaker 1:We really appreciate that yeah, dr p takes out with you. Hey, make it a great day. Appreciate it.
