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Boundaries, Delegation, and Meekness: The Leadership Manual You Never Knew Was in Matthew
Ever wonder why some organizations thrive for generations while others collapse the moment their founder steps away? The answer might be found in an unexpected place—the leadership principles of Jesus as recorded in Matthew's gospel.
Jesus didn't wait until the end of his ministry to think about succession planning. From day one, he began identifying, recruiting, and developing the people who would carry his message forward. This forward-thinking approach ensured that his work continued and expanded long after his departure—for over 2,000 years! As we explore the first fourteen chapters of Matthew, we discover how Jesus systematically prepared his disciples, shared his values, and gradually delegated authority.
The Beatitudes reveal profound truths about leadership character that challenge conventional wisdom. When Jesus praised the "poor in spirit," he wasn't celebrating weakness but highlighting the strength found in humility—recognizing you don't have all the answers. His statement that "the meek shall inherit the earth" wasn't about passivity; meekness is actually power under control, like a strong horse responding to gentle guidance. These counter-cultural principles reshape how effective leaders view themselves and interact with others.
Communication emerges as another crucial leadership skill throughout Matthew's account. Jesus masterfully used storytelling through parables to convey complex ideas in memorable ways. He understood that different audiences needed different approaches—sometimes teaching the crowds broadly while explaining deeper meanings privately to his closest followers. This reminds today's leaders that effective communication isn't just about delivering information but ensuring it's properly understood.
Perhaps most striking is Jesus' ability to spot potential where others saw problems. When he called Matthew, a despised tax collector, he recognized valuable qualities that others missed. Matthew's meticulous attention to detail became an asset in chronicling Jesus' ministry. Great leaders similarly look beyond obvious credentials to identify and nurture the unique talents each team member brings.
Ready to transform your leadership through these timeless principles? Subscribe now and join us next week as we continue exploring biblical wisdom for today's leaders. How might your organization benefit from implementing succession planning from day one?
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Speaker 2:Hey Tim, how are you doing today? How are we doing? Today I am doing fantastic. How are you doing?
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, we're hanging in there today. Just a busy day, busy, busy.
Speaker 2:Busy day, that's all right, yeah.
Speaker 1:Just coming back off of some travel, so I'm excited to be back in the Metroplex and hanging out and you've got some travel coming up. So you're going to be getting out of town shortly after this and so yeah, so it's exciting stuff.
Speaker 2:Exciting stuff. It's summer, it's Texas, it's hot. Yeah, you know, it's just part of life. It's just how it is right. That's the way it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the way it is. Oh, all right, but yeah, last time we were here we were long-winded. We were, but that's all right, we don't mind being long-winded, we started. If you're just joining us hopefully you joined us last week because we started the New Testament, we did the New Testament, we did.
Speaker 2:Whoop, whoop, whoop, yeah, going through every book of the Bible. We were thinking that we would get through chapter 1 through 14.
Speaker 1:Last week, we thought, we made it through chapter 4. We thought, but we were just talkative. We, you know new beginnings, little hump, you know a little hill. We're going down the backside of it with the New Testament.
Speaker 2:Right yeah, but we didn't even finish chapter four. All right, fine, but you know, there's so much stuff. There is so much stuff Good material there.
Speaker 1:We're not going to rush because it's our show and if we need to take four podcasts to get through Matthew, then we will.
Speaker 2:We will, just because it's our show right it might, but you then we will. We will Just because it's our show right it might, but you know go ahead.
Speaker 1:No, no, I was going to say go ahead to you.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you know the word on the street, the word on the street is that someone dropped their Scrabble? Game all over the freeway Uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh. Scrabble all over the freeway Freeway.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was trying to figure out if I should reach for that thing. Give you the crickets, give you the applause.
Speaker 2:Just nothing. That said it all. I just give you that. Look, there's a lot of good movies out, there's some good movies coming out and there's a new movie coming out about tractors.
Speaker 1:Uh-oh, a new movie about tractors. Yeah, I just saw the trailer.
Speaker 2:All right, I'll get you that one.
Speaker 1:I don't know about the freeway one.
Speaker 2:Obviously not.
Speaker 1:Hey, thank you for joining us. Uh, you know, yeah, we, we try to have fun. If you're, you're hanging out with us. You know I I know we have a lot of listeners that that uh showed up last week when we were starting the new testament. I don't know why they didn't want to hang out with us in the old testament. We got a quite a few people. We got people all over the country, uh, but you know, we, we uh a lot of times in the searches and stuff, new Testament comes up before you're searching for Malachi in there. You know, matthew comes up before Malachi a lot of times in the searches.
Speaker 1:So thank you for all our new listeners, if you're just joining us again. Biblical Leadership Show, where we talk about biblical principles, tie them into leadership principles and then we throw some dad jokes in because we like them and we can. We can?
Speaker 2:It's our show right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so last week we sort of did a recap of Matthew and we made it through, like you said, chapter four-ish. Halfway through chapter four Halfway through chapter four, but we gave some background.
Speaker 2:So if you're not, familiar with the Bible or, specifically, the New Testament or prophecy about the New Testament from the Old Testament. That was the first half of the show, which I think is important. If you're going to read the Bible and how to pick out a Bible, what version you're going to read, what translation, whatever and then we started talking about the lessons to read, what translation, whatever? And then we started talking about the lessons. That's what we do here talk about how the Bible applies to our life today, specifically focus on leadership principles from every book of the Bible, and there's so much in the Scripture that we focused on, and there was some really good points in Matthew, chapter 1, about genealogy.
Speaker 2:Chapter 2, the wise men, chapter 3, you know. And John the Baptist, chapter 4, jesus and the temptation. Right after that, jesus comes out of the wilderness, after being tempted, you know, for 40 days, and then we read that he calls his disciples and so he is setting up, at the very beginning of his ministry, a succession plan. Okay, and so you deal with this all the time in your leadership training classes is what's going to happen when?
Speaker 2:okay, yes training classes is what's going to happen when? Okay, whenever the when happens, whatever happens. Why aren't some companies thinking okay, when I step down, whether I retire, I'm sick, whatever, I just don't want to do this job anymore. For whatever reason, I can't do it. Who's going to take the company after me and take it to the next level?
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Am I beginning to train that person right now to be the next CEO or the next COO or whatever it may be head of the company Jesus? From the very beginning, that was one of his priorities because he knew that he had limited time. We all have limited time. He that he had limited time. We all have limited time. He knew he had limited time. So from the very beginning of his ministry he got followers and they're called the apostles or the 12 disciples, and he began to train them. So he trained them for three years. For three years and with the expectation that once he was gone, that they would take his ministry and spread it around the world, which they have continued to do over the last 2,000 years.
Speaker 2:So let's just talk about the succession plan. You deal with this a lot with your leadership conferences, and I think it's just a good leadership principle to think okay, who's going to be my replacement? I might not be leaving for 10 years, but I got to have a plan. So can you just talk a little bit about that from your experience? No, Okay.
Speaker 1:Let's move on Chapter five Chapter five Sermon on the Mount.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing on succession plans, and I harp on them all the time and I do a lot of business consulting and we talk about how it's going to be, you know, and a lot of times there's a process and every company is set up totally different and we get this. I'm dealing with multiple companies and some of them have you know where, where their mom and pops, and then some of them have big corporate structures and and one of the things that you know I always get into is is there's gotta be a success and, and we, we try to do it in all the associations I belong to, all the, the committee meetings, all the you know different things. We, we try to figure out this line because if you do, what's going to happen and I see it all the time is, people will spend a couple years and then they pick a new leader. Well, that new leader doesn't have the same values, they don't have the same direction, they want to take it totally different, and then it throws the company, the committee, whatever it might be, in disarray.
Speaker 1:And I think one of the biggest things that you can get out of this, you know, is he. You know, and we're going to talk about in five is he lived it, he breathed it, he resists temptation in four, but he actually did it. And if somebody's along with you on that journey, when you're living that, when you're going through the process, when you're telling them some of the daily tasks sort of like me, if I want to travel out of town for a week, well, you know my two and three, they know everything that we need to be done, because I've thought how I could eventually, you know, retire out of this business. I don't know when that'll ever be. You know 97, 98, I don't know, when that will ever be.
Speaker 1:You know 97, 98, but hopefully 105, you know that'd be great. But you know, if everybody's on the same page it's a lot easier to make that exit strategy to get your people in the same direction. You know, last week we talked about mission statements. You know, and that's just one of those things, if you can get those leaders keyed up, then it opens up so many avenues because it's not just you being the leader, you have three or four people that are all on the same page. Now you got three or four leaders. At any point Three people can leave and you're going to have the same values, the same direction, the same everything going on. And you know, and that's what I think Jesus was trying to do Make sure we have the same message going out in different channels and different places, but I mean at that point everything, everybody was on the same page Correct.
Speaker 2:And so because of that and he took time, you know to they traveled together. They were with together 24-7, most of the time that they really absorbed the values of Jesus and he wanted those values to be passed on. Now everybody's going to have their own little character differences, their priorities, but the goal would be 90% of the message is the same. You might look at it a little different, you might prioritize something a little different, but you just want to be sure that the message didn't change and it hasn't changed for 2,000 years. That's because he laid that foundation from the very beginning. So that is a really good.
Speaker 2:Leadership principle is how much are you pouring into your people? You know some people they don't want to be the leader, but you still need to be pouring into them. You know, we see in this choosing of the disciples that he had 12 main followers. He had lots of followers, but he had 12 group and then he had a small group of three Peter James and John and so we see Peter James and John doing a lot of things, maybe that the other nine didn't. And so the question would be, when you have your leadership team, if you have an organization, do you have a small group, maybe two or three people, that you really rely upon. It's like your core group.
Speaker 2:Now, if you're a mom and pop shop, you might just have two people you and your spouse, or you and your best friend, or whatever. Okay, how much do you think about what's going to happen when? What's our plan? Are we going to just do this until we can't breathe anymore and then we're going to sell the business, or we just hope someone buys it, or whatever? You've got to be thinking that it might not take action yet, but at least you've got to be processing and thinking about it, and Jesus was really good about the long-range planning.
Speaker 2:So, that was one of his priorities is that he wanted to be sure that the message continued to move forward after he was gone, and so that was one of his goals. He did it, and we see that pretty consistently.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then sort of going into Matthew 5. Here it's sort of what we're sort of putting together is he's getting through the values? Right, he's getting through the values of his kingdom, how to put it together? The humility, the peacekeeping right. What's it mean to be righteous? I guess in a way Is it a good summary.
Speaker 2:Yeah, how to live a godly life how to live a life that honors God and blesses people. And and so you read the first part of chapter five, which are called the Beatitudes, and those are timeless principles that really laid the foundation for what Jesus was going to be about in his ministry. And so let's just take the first one Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. So if we look at that to say poor, know poor in spirit, he wasn't talking about you, know financially poor.
Speaker 2:He was people recognizing the fact that they don't might have it all together, that they still need to learn, they still lack something in their life. And so he said blessed are those people who are humble enough to realize that they don't know everything, that they still have needs. And so I'm thinking what a great lesson for leaders. How many leaders have you met that think, oh, they have it all together, they know all there is to know, they're God's gift to the world and they treat other people that way? And he said no, that's not my way. My way is to be humble about that, to realize that there's always still more. No, that's not my way. My way is to be humble about that, to realize that there's always still more to learn. There's still things that we need, and Jesus was really focusing on character development.
Speaker 1:Yeah, humility. Humility is foundation of greatness.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, and so that's what he did. And if you look at the second one blessed are those who mourn they shall be comforted. But also the question is blessed are those who mourn? How focused are we on the emotional needs of our people? Are we just focusing on the task that has to be done, or are we focusing on what's going on in their lives? Do we know them well enough to know that they might be going through a difficult time in their life, and so we can maybe accommodate a deadline, Maybe we can give them a little slack, because they're struggling with something in their personal life, A family member's sick or maybe passed away, or something's going on and we're sensitive to that.
Speaker 2:And so Jesus really laying out some principles that I think apply to all of us when we look at them from a leadership point of view. So I would encourage you, if you're not familiar with Matthew 5, just read those first couple of sentences and think okay, how does this apply to my job, my life right now? How does it apply to my family? If I'm leading a scout troop or whatever it may be, a baseball team, how does that apply to me?
Speaker 1:Three is blessed are the meek. You know and I put down my show notes Meekness isn't weakness, you know, it's strength under control. You know, and that's sort of what I look at, you know, and I think that's unique the way to look at it. You know, the leaders they're not domineering, they're listening, they get all those attitudes, they take the attitude out of there, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so the way is. This will explain to me. Years and years ago, you take a horse, a wild horse, and you're going to break it, you know, so you can ride it. And when you put a bit in its mouth to control where it goes, Sounds like a good dad joke there somewhere.
Speaker 2:No, it's really not. It could be. You put a bit in his mouth, so then you have the reins, you control the energy, okay, and so you focus all of that energy and power into one direction, and that's what meek means. It doesn't mean like you're a doormat or you know whatever People walk on you.
Speaker 1:It's a good way to describe it.
Speaker 2:It's focusing all your energy in one direction, and so yeah.
Speaker 1:Because I think a lot of people see the word meek and the perception is, maybe it's cowered down, just weakness and all that. And it's really not. It's really not.
Speaker 2:And so the next one blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness. So the question would be you know, one of the things that Jesus was about his whole ministry was constantly teaching his disciples. He wanted them to constantly be learners, and I think a good leader is a constant learner, whether they're reading, whether they're going to seminars, and then it's not just about them. They want their people to be educated. They want their people to be the best trained they can be Okay. So yeah, and so you do that a lot.
Speaker 2:I mean you focus a lot on your home builders association training. You know certifying different people because education is very, very important. It's a powerful thing. You know certifying different people because education is very, very important.
Speaker 1:It's a powerful thing. You know, and I always tell people you know everything's. There's a lot of information. We live in information age with the Internet and all that. It's just find the stuff that resonates. Find the stuff that you can use. You know, even when somebody's taking through my class, I'm not here to change your world. Find two or three things you can actually put in practice and that might change or shape the direction that you end up, you know, down the road.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so as we go through the first you know, chapter of the Sermon on the Mount, there is so much.
Speaker 2:One of them is you know, you are the salt of the earth. Jesus was always about, and I was listening to a podcast this morning while I was walking and it was talking about positive language and negative language and I thought, wow, jesus was mainly about positive language when he was trying to develop his disciples. Now there's occasional you can read that in the book of Matthew when he was talking to some of the religious leaders that he used negative language because he realized that they just didn't want to know about him and they didn't like him and they wanted to kill him and so he was very blunt with them. But when he met somebody who wanted to follow him, he used positive, encouraged language. And so, you know, a good leader understands the value of powerful, positive, encouraging language and one of the jobs I think of a good leader is to build up your people you know, and it's not just what you say, it's your tone of voice, how you say it.
Speaker 2:The other thing is do you do? Do you like? If you need to discipline a person, do you discipline them in private, or do you discipline them in front of other people and just humiliate them? That's never good.
Speaker 1:No, that won't work out good.
Speaker 2:That doesn't work out good. So Jesus is about positive language, encouraging His people, which encourages people. And so here in the whole Sermon on the Mount Matthew 5, 6, 7, or 5, 6, 7, he's just encouraging people to focus on God and what kind of life you want to live and you know what kind of character you want to be and how big a priority is that in your life. And he just gave some practical steps on how to do that on a daily basis.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Matthew 6, don't they get into the Lord's Prayer or? Something through that Isn't that where that sort of originated Exactly?
Speaker 2:right, yeah, and so he talks about prayer, he talks about fasting. He talks about prayer, he talks about fasting. He talks about spiritual disciplines, and so it's not just some things about business. It's like I want to grow in my personal spiritual life. If you're going to grow in your personal spiritual life, reading the Bible is still the number one way to and been proven. If you read the Bible on a consistent, if not daily, basis, it's still the number one way to grow in your faith. Now, obviously, there's other things public worship, you know, prayer. Those are the kind of things that I think are important.
Speaker 1:Yeah, meditation.
Speaker 2:Meditation serving. Richard Foster wrote a great book years and years ago called the Celebration of Discipline. Talked about the 12 historic spiritual disciplines, and so some people are attracted to certain ones. But if you want to grow in your faith and Jesus, that's what he was all about reading the Bible and worship prayer serving those are important things to do in order to take baby steps to grow in your faith.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 2:It's good.
Speaker 1:All right. So you got the Sermon on the Mount coming up through.
Speaker 2:you know number what, eight, and yeah, through, well, through the you know Sermon on the Mount, and that goes through chapter 7, and then we finish that and then we get to chapter 8, and here in chapter 8, we begin to see Jesus starting to do miracles. He's starting to heal people. We read about the faith of a centurion whose daughter was sick, and so just constantly, Jesus is doing incredible things to heal people, not just physically, but to heal them of their unbelief. Many people, the sickness that they're dealing with is not a physical thing, it is something that they just believe that God doesn't care for them, that no one cares, that they're not important. And Jesus is saying no, no, no, everybody's important to God and everybody's important to me, and I'm going to treat everybody the same, I'm going to love them right where they are, just the way they are. And so he went to different parts of the country and he healed people, he taught he was a very compassionate person and he just kind of upset the apple cart of the religious leaders of the day.
Speaker 1:That would be an understatement. That would be an understatement.
Speaker 2:That would be an understatement right, and so because of that, he paid some consequences. And so I guess one of the leader's questions would be, or principles would be you know, we can choose to do whatever we want. We can't always choose the consequences, but maybe we're afraid of some of the consequences that might happen, so that keeps us from doing something that we really want to do. We think I don't know if this is going to turn out, I don't know if I want to invest in a new building, because this might not work or whatever, and so we hold ourselves back because we're afraid of the consequence, and that has lots of implications for leaders. And so are we willing to take a risk? Are we willing to pay the consequences of our decisions? Because we're not the only one that pays the consequences. We have employees, we have partners that pay the consequences as well, and so those things would take prayer and thinking about how are we going to move forward, and that's why I feel that you need a group of people around you to talk those things through.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like it yeah.
Speaker 2:So then you know we have Jesus calming the storm. You know he heals people calming the storm, you know he heals people. And then here in chapter 9, we read him calling a man by the name of Matthew who was a tax collector, and Jews did not like tax collectors but, it changed Matthew's life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, from tax collector to disciple right.
Speaker 2:Correct, but he was so meticulous because tax collectors had to be meticulous, right.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:He was so meticulous in his life before becoming a disciple that he just continued that in his discipleship and he used that as a tool to record what Jesus was saying. And we have the book now, 2,000 years later. And because so God used his talent to actually promote the cause. And so the question would be for leaders do you know the real talents of your people? And I've hired people, you know, and they've had something on their resume, maybe something's not on their resume and all of a sudden you know we work together for a couple months and I realize, oh, they have added value because they have this thing that I don't even know about, okay, and we think, yeah, let's play to your strength there, and so that's really a good thing. When you're thinking about people, do you know the value, the hidden values, the added values Can you spot?
Speaker 1:that greatness. You know, I was just doing some business, consulting, and and that's exactly what I did with the owners. We sat down and went through um sort of a reorg chart you know of of the company and guy had only been there for very brief amount of time and he had some. He had some history in his past, but I think that could be overlooked and I think he learned from that big lessons and ultimately promoted him into a position of power and he is just kicking some royal butt. Right, he's doing great, but if you would hold that or you would look at him differently or that, you just but you could see the strength. You were looking at the, the, the greatness wanting to come out of him and and I think that's what you got to look at and I think that as a leader, that's that's part of your job. You know, jesus could have sold his tax collector. That was not a friendly place, you know, and messy, you know, I guess in a way, but you know, really took him under his wing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it changed. You know the blessing that came from that, because Jesus took him under his wing. So there we have that, and then we get to chapter 10, and after chapter 10, jesus doesn't just, you know, he's starting to send his disciples out to share the message, to pray for people. And so here's the thing, jesus obviously here's some leadership principles. He valued teams.
Speaker 2:You know, he sent them out, he delegated authority. You know a lot of leaders. They want all the authority, they want to make all the decisions and it's like no, let your people. If you don't trust your people to make decisions, then the question is, is that a statement about your people or is that a statement about you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the whole key, right, Because it you know, sometimes you point at your people and it's the three fingers pointing back at you, you know because it's you're the problem, not them. You know how many times have I called in for business consulting or to train their people and it takes me, you know, half a day to figure out. It's not the people, it's the leader.
Speaker 1:Somebody else is not in this room right now. That hired me needs to be in this room and these people need to go on down their way. Right, but a lot of times you no, but anyway.
Speaker 2:so Jesus had, he sent him out, delegated authority, and he set priorities. This is what I want you to do. It was very clear about what he wanted his disciples to do. He communicated his expectations and he put boundaries on them too. He did put boundaries. He said this is what.
Speaker 1:I want you to do and this is what I want you to accomplish. But he threw boundaries and I made a note of that just because a lot of people think that your people don't want boundaries. Your kids don't want boundaries. You know they throw fits. Here's the problem is, our brain likes boundaries. You know as much as you don't think it does. We like to know we can bounce between these two little guardrails and be able to go forward, and it's just something to think that it really stood out to me when I was doing my show prep there, the word boundaries.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so Jesus is like well, you know, we see that from the beginning of the Scripture there are boundaries, and when we break the boundaries there are consequences that we can't always control, consequences that we can't always control. And so we see that and then we get to, you know, here, beginning around chapter 13, and we'll finish up with you know, this little bit is chapter 13 is full of parables. Okay, and Jesus loved teaching in parables. But here's the question he wasn't just teaching His 12 disciples, he was teaching the masses. Some of them were for His people.
Speaker 2:And then one of the parables he taught, and then it says when Jesus was alone with His disciples, he explained things to them. And so you might be sharing with a big company or with a group of people, but the question is how did they understand what you actually said? So I know that's true for me. You know it's humbling. Sometimes I preach a sermon and then you know, several weeks later someone says something about it and I say, well, what did you remember about the sermon and what they heard? I didn't even realize. I was saying okay. So you have to think okay, here am I saying these certain things, but are the people actually hearing the same message, and so making sure that you communicate clearly, your people understand exactly what it is, and so Jesus taught in parables. For a specific reason, there's always more than one lesson in all those parables, but he was a master at storytelling and teaching, and so really that takes us up to about chapter 14.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sort of like what you said. I want to add one thing on that is you know, leadership is about, you know, sowing the seed right. You know the results might not be immediate, but you're going to see it right, you're going to see it long term. So sort of like, when the people come back, you come and give your sermon that day and give your sermon that day. It might not be the immediate impact, but there's at some point that impact that can really change the course of somebody's direction in life and or help them out of a tough spot that maybe is coming up, that they don't even know what it is Correct, and so that's the thing you want to just continue to plant seeds into your people, continue to train them, continue to encourage them, support them, give them the authority to make decisions and then hold them accountable.
Speaker 2:That's a real big part.
Speaker 1:You've got to have systems in place. I just went through it with one of my companies and what's the next step? I have a lot of people I'm like, well, we have to go through and do this, this and this, because to hold these people accountable, they have to know exactly what their job definitions, their defined, their scope, that they're supposed to be doing every day. And once you've had that discussion, then you can go through the process of holding them accountable because you've had that discussion. But if you're not having that discussion, it's going to be tough to hold anybody accountable.
Speaker 2:So yeah, and so one of the things for leaders is, when you have your annual review, or sometimes six-month review, that's an important time to set down expectations so that when you have your review and you're hopefully meeting with your people on a regular basis, they know are they meeting expectations, are they not? And those are pretty, you know you have those things, that checklists. This is things I want to have you do in the next six months, you might. Jesus was not a micromanager, so he didn't tell his people how to do it. He showed them and then let them kind of do their own thing. And so you give expectations, but that doesn't mean you micromanage your people and tell them exactly, watch over their shoulder every minute of the day.
Speaker 2:That's not good.
Speaker 1:Nope, that's not good. That's good. Can you believe we actually made it through Matthew?
Speaker 2:Well, through chapter 14.
Speaker 1:Well, through chapter 14, yes, yes, that's exactly right, yeah, that's right. We hit where we wanted to get to today. How about that so?
Speaker 2:you know, that's it. Yay, yay, we're done, yay, we're good. All right. So what dad jokes do you have?
Speaker 1:So anyway, what do you have? Some dad jokes, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Have you had any dad jokes for us? Are you pulling?
Speaker 1:out the book. I'm pulling out some. See what I got there. I usually have bad dad jokes.
Speaker 2:I can't tell, I always tell people you know I've got good language.
Speaker 1:I've got construction language. I've got good thoughts, I've got construction thoughts. There's a lot that goes on in my head. You know, sometimes I can't use my construction language at the podcast and in front of the room. And yes, I know, dr Posey, be consistent in your image. I know, but it's just so tough, right. So in my head I've got a lot of dad jokes, but none that I would ever say in front of Dr Posey, Because I hear them from my guys, right? So, um, um, did you hear the rumor about butter?
Speaker 2:Did it spread real thin.
Speaker 1:Nevermind, I shouldn't spread it. Okay, oh my son just told me one other day I should uh, oh, I have one.
Speaker 2:That's so funny. What did the uh? Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to think what he told me. Uh, why, why did the the astronaut get embarrassed?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Cause he got mooned, he created that one. He creates dad jokes all the time. It was pretty good, so don't know where he where he gets those things from Okay, so here you go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what do you call an acid with an attitude?
Speaker 1:Acid, with an attitude Trying to do the letter jumble Not good at those things. What you got?
Speaker 2:Amino acid.
Speaker 1:Amino acid. I'll give you that one. All right, one more.
Speaker 2:Why wouldn't the young crab share his toys? He?
Speaker 1:was Shellfish. Shellfish. All right, all righty. Unless you got All right, I get that one. All righty Unless you got one more. I'm going to let the people go.
Speaker 2:Well, I do, but I'll save it for next week. Save it up for there.
Speaker 1:so we finish. Well, you know, never know, we may or may not finish Matthew next week, but we're going to maybe work on it.
Speaker 1:We'll see how it goes for sure we're going to work on it. Hey guys, check us out. Biblicalleadershipshowcom. Let us know what you have, maybe a subject where, if you want us to go deep, diving in some of these upcoming parts of the New Testament, you want us to say a prayer for you. Just let us know. Check us out, Send us a text. You can hit us through some of our different sites. Send us a text and send us an email.
Speaker 1:But other than that guys have a glorious, great week the rest of the week, until we see you next week, anything else other than just doing your patented get us out of here thing, that's it Make it a great day. Make it a great day, guys. We'll talk to you next week.
