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Servant Leadership: Jesus' Blueprint for Leading Others
What can ancient wisdom teach us about modern leadership challenges? The leadership principles demonstrated by Jesus in Matthew chapters 14-15 offer a masterclass in effective leadership that transcends time and context.
When Jesus walks on water, He shows more than supernatural power—He reveals the importance of knowing your team well enough to recognize when they're struggling. Peter's momentary success and subsequent failure on the waves beautifully illustrates how leaders must be attentive to their people's needs, ready to reach out before they have to ask for help. How many of your team members might be silently sinking while you remain unaware?
The feeding of thousands with minimal resources challenges our assumptions about what's needed for success. Rather than focusing on what's lacking, Jesus demonstrates creative problem-solving with available resources. This prompts us to ask: are we nurturing creativity in our organizations, or simply demanding more resources? A resourceful team with limited means often accomplishes more than a well-funded team lacking innovation.
Perhaps most revolutionary is Jesus' equal treatment of all people in a deeply divided society. From the Canaanite woman whose faith He commended to the religious leaders who opposed Him, Jesus showed consistent dignity and respect to everyone He encountered. This radical equality challenges today's leaders to examine their own biases and preferential treatments. Do all your team members feel equally valued, heard, and respected?
The Wycliffe Bible Translators identify six qualities of servant leadership evident in Jesus' approach: integrity, humility, flexibility, resilience, stewardship of resources, and empathy. Together, these qualities form a leadership paradigm that builds sustainable, healthy organizations where people thrive.
By focusing on serving rather than being served, treating everyone with equal dignity, knowing your people deeply, and cultivating creativity with available resources, you create teams that not only achieve objectives but transform lives. What might be possible if today's leaders embraced these timeless principles?
Join us as we continue exploring biblical leadership principles that remain surprisingly relevant in today's complex leadership landscape.
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Speaker 2:Yes, thank you so much how you doing.
Speaker 1:I feel so good here in the studio with that kind of welcome. It is great, great to be in the studio.
Speaker 2:And it gets to see your pirate costume. I and I get to see your pirate costume. I know you get to see my pirate costume.
Speaker 1:I had my pirate costume sitting up there Shiver me timbers.
Speaker 1:You got to understand my office. I got a big training center, but from time to time I host birthday parties for some of my friends and do things, Because I've got a pretty large space here, and so we had a pirate themed birthday party. So I had my pirate wig over there and I knew that it was over there and I hadn't even thought about it. I was like how much he's wondering, you know, walking in and seeing what this, that big dog looking thing stuck on a microphone, is over there. So I put on my pirate wig to come, come in the studio today. So did you once have hair that long?
Speaker 1:I you know, actually I mine wasn't that long it wasn't quite that long, but it if I washed it it would go down that long. I had curly hair. It would curl up. Curl up about. You know, past my collar, about yeah, I've been back and everything. But when I washed it it went a little bit longer, but you had long hair too uh, when I had hair yeah, I understand well I.
Speaker 2:when I was growing up, the rule in the house was you could not have hair that touched your ears, so it was cut frequently. But when I left for college and I could actually grow my hair, then I did until it started falling out a couple years later. So I took advantage of it. That was a short period in my life.
Speaker 1:Well, I would say mine wasn't a mullet, but it was pretty close. Oh wow, yeah, because it was long on top. Going down the back it was all curly, but I did have it a little bit shorter on the side.
Speaker 2:So it might have been almost that mullet thing, the pre-mullet. Yeah, it was there Set the stage for the mullet huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was a different thing so.
Speaker 1:I don't mind the mullets, right, you don't mind them you know, the only thing I think back if I would have done it is back in school. All the seniors went mohawks when I was a freshman and me and my buddy he wanted to really do it and I was like I don't know, I was a little bit shyer back then. Now I've been like, oh yeah, let's go shave it, let's do it, not a problem. So everybody got mohawks and I wish I would have got the mohawk back then. But back then I was just a little bit more quiet, a little bit more freshman-ish, you know. So, uh, so yeah, so there it is, hey, right.
Speaker 2:It does. Well, I can't say that anymore, I'd be afraid to do it. I was like, no, I haven't mowed for like five years. We did a.
Speaker 1:Halloween costume and I shaved my head for a Halloween costume because I was all in on Halloween so I had to shave my head for Halloween. But yeah, it grew back sort of and it's still sort of someone up there.
Speaker 2:Tag.
Speaker 1:I've got a few more than you how about that.
Speaker 2:I think that sometimes hair is so overrated.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, we need to find some hair dad jokes. We probably can. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2:Here we go. That was a good segue into that. I live out in the country.
Speaker 1:Yes, you do.
Speaker 2:So today I saw a line of rabbits hopping backwards, yes. What is it called? It's called a receding hairline. Are you kidding me, man. You cued that up really nice.
Speaker 1:You've got to understand something, guys. I had no clue. No clue, what Dr P puts together for his dad jokes every show. That was just good radio prep, podcast prep, good setup there, that's awesome.
Speaker 2:You cued me up so nicely. Thank you so much. Awesome yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, if you've been with us for a couple weeks, we have been starting the New Testament and we've been bouncing around Matthew here for a couple weeks, and I don't know, we might be bouncing around Matthew for a couple more weeks.
Speaker 2:you know it's a great book.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing you know we're getting in the New Testament and some of these have so much, you know, lessons and leadership and parables and messages that are there that we need to break them down. And you know we're going to continue on. Today we're going to pick up Matthew 14, 15. We might talk about that walking on water thing that we really didn't get to last time, but you know, and then we'll see where it takes. You know, see where we can get through, but we are in Matthew today and sort of give us a recap of the earlier Matthews that we've talked about through 1 through 14. Just give us a brief overview in case people are kidding us in between shows or something.
Speaker 2:Well, first of all, let's just talk about probably the second most asked question I was asked in my ministry and that is how does the Bible apply to my life today? Right, okay, I tried to answer that every week when I was preaching or when I was teaching. I tried to answer that question because I didn't want it just to be a history lesson, I didn't want it just to be a theological discourse or something for a religious magazine or something for a religious magazine. I wanted to know how does this book of incredible history apply to my life today? Well, it depends on the filter that we look at it through. And so, right now, in our show and for the last year and a half we've been doing this we look at through the filter of leadership. What can this book teach us about leadership? Whether we are leading a softball team, a scout troop, whether we're leading the bakery down the street and we're the owner, maybe we have a hardware store, maybe we have a multimillion-dollar corporation with hundreds of employees, there are some biblical leadership principles. That applies to all of us. And so here in the book of Matthew, as we transition from the Old Testament to the New Testament, we see the focus now is on Jesus and servant leadership, humility.
Speaker 2:In the first chapter of Matthew we talked about the genealogy and how every person is important. And in your organization is every person important, or do some people just you know? Do you treat them the same? And then we go to chapter two with the wise men and taking a risk of stepping out and doing something they really believed in. And then we go to chapter three with John the Baptist and his boldness.
Speaker 2:Then we go to chapter 4 with Jesus in the wilderness for 40 days and you know, preparing himself for his ministry and then him calling the disciples after that. And he's setting up, from the very beginning of his ministry, this session plan and training his leaders, training his people. How much time do we put in training our people? Then we get to the Sermon on the Mount, chapter 5, 6, and 7, really talking about how much is God a priority in our life? What are our priorities? You know, I worked for a boss one time that his priority before 30, he wanted to be a millionaire. Well, unfortunately he ripped his employees off to do that and I quit.
Speaker 1:I was like no, I can't work for a person like that. I know We've had stories like that. I had the same thing, you know, and one of mine.
Speaker 2:And so Jesus is talking about that, but he's also talking about character, and character matters. What's inside of us really does matter, because what's inside of us will eventually come on the outside and people will see it. The people close to us they know when we're fake, they know when we're real.
Speaker 2:Sure yeah, and we might fool some people for a while, but eventually they're going to see what's really inside of us. And so, jesus, talking about that, that our character, his desire for our character, is to be godly. How do we do that? And there are certain steps, there are certain practices, certain things that, over time, have been proven. For if you want to go down that road which we encourage everybody to do then these are the steps that can get you into that thing.
Speaker 2:And so then we get out of the Sermon on the Mount and we get to some. Jesus starts to, he calls his disciples before and he starts to train them. He starts to send them out, he's starting to trust them, he's given them authority, he's given them responsibility, he's teaching them, he's training them. And responsibility, he's teaching them, he's training them. And then we get to chapter 13, and he gets to that's a lot of parables. So he's teaching people, but then he explains them when he's in private. So the leadership principle was how much are you teaching and training your people and do they really understand what you're trying to say? Are you communicating clearly and not just to your people on your social media, your advertising what you're trying to say, are you communicating clearly and not just to your people on your social media, your, you know, your advertising or everything else? Is it very clear as to what you're? Um, um, here, here's the thing. I was in Waco, obviously here a couple months ago.
Speaker 1:Um and I'm glad you're back. I'm glad I'm back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was great, but I'm glad I'm back. Um, but there was a shopping, a huge shopping center right by the hotel where I stayed at. It was an extended stay hotel in the south of town and I would drive through there. There's a couple of restaurants in there, so I'd drive through there, you know going to restaurants, and there were several businesses that had the name of it. It even had a sign out front but I could not tell from the name of the company what in the world their product was.
Speaker 2:I saw people in the building but it's like is that a restaurant, is that a clothing store? Because I couldn't tell and there was nothing on their building, there was nothing about their name that gave me any indication of what they were about. And it's like okay, well, somebody knows what they're about because somebody's in there, but I can't tell what they're about. So the question is are you communicating what you're about by your whatever it is, your tagline, your name, your social media presence, or is it confusing to people?
Speaker 1:I just got a little story made me think of it's funny, funny. We were driving and I asked the kids I go where do you guys? Let's go to dinner, is there any place you want to eat? And my son's like I don't know, just Mexican restaurant, let's go to a Mexican restaurant. And seriously this is going to be. We were driving down the road and literally two blocks away we look over no name on the company name on the building. It just said Mexican restaurant. So I pulled in. I'm like will this work? He's like Mexican restaurant.
Speaker 1:He goes. But what is this place? I'm like it's a Mexican restaurant. Still had no name of the building or anything, what it was. It just said Mexican restaurant. So it made us laugh. I'm like it's a Mexican restaurant. Still had no name of the building or anything, what it was. It just said Mexican restaurant. So it made us laugh. I'm like, well, we're not eating here.
Speaker 2:That's pretty funny, but in ways you want it.
Speaker 1:I took a picture of it. It's pretty funny there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2:So now we come to a chapter. Well, jesus walks on the water, and that just shows his power over nature. And that just shows his power over nature, yeah, I was going to ask you know.
Speaker 1:A lot of times people ask you know, ask me, why does Jesus walk on water? What's the purpose of that? And I think you were just getting into it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's got the power over nature and his disciples were out in a boat and you know they were trying to get across. That wasn't happening. So he just comes and walks to them and then we see Peter. Peter, only person in human history, other than Jesus, that actually walked on water and he took his eyes off. Jesus started sinking. Jesus reached down and pulled him up. Now, what a great leadership principle. How much do we know our people to know that when they're in trouble okay, whatever trouble that might be they might be dealing with a moral issue, they might be dealing with a relationship issue, they might be dealing with a relationship issue? Do we know our people well enough that when they're in trouble, we know and we can reach out to them? And so that's you know. You can't. If you have a big company, you can't know everybody. But the question is do you know your small group? Do?
Speaker 2:you know your five or six main leaders, or your three or four main leaders? Do you know them well enough and you're transparent with them to know, hey, this person is going through a difficult time or hey, their child just graduated from high school or college? I know I need to give them maybe some time off, because that's one of those times in life that only comes once and I want to give them some time off so they can be with their family. And knowing that about your people just develops loyalty and trust. And you give somebody hey, I know your son is graduating from, or your daughter's graduating from, high school, you know, next week. Why don't you take the Thursday and Friday off and just be with your family?
Speaker 2:you know, Wow, if you initiate that instead of the person asking you know how much you're going to increase in their mind of like, this person really does care about me, and so that, to me, is what a great leadership principle is getting to know your people and being proactive in taking care of their needs. And we see that with Jesus all the time. Okay, and sometimes people would come to Jesus for healing. He never turned anybody away. He would listen to them, he would meet their needs. He had met them right where they were, just the way they were. But he encouraged them hey, don't go back and go do that sin again. I've changed you so you would lead a different kind of life.
Speaker 2:And so we see that over and over again. And when we come to chapter 15, we see an incredible story about a Canaanite woman and she had a daughter who was severely sick and Jesus was there and she asked Him to heal and he said I've only been sent to the house of Israel. And she said well, even the dogs eat the scraps from under the table. And Jesus said hey, your faith is great. And so he recognized something in the people great.
Speaker 2:And so he recognized something in the people and that Jesus was a master at recognizing those small seeds of faith in people and then took them and just made that just bigger. And so the question is do you recognize that in your people? Do you recognize those small, let's just say, glimpses of talent or inspiration or whatever? And you take advantage of that and just make it bigger and give them maybe some extra special assignment to see if you can draw out that talent.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about that real fast because some people might not be. You know, first time in the Bible, how does the different divisions you know a lot of the people didn't talk to the other people to this, where there's very big divides out there, you know. So you sort of touched on it right where he was like oh, you know. So let's maybe sort of explain that. You know what the mentality was back then a little bit.
Speaker 2:Well, first of all, unfortunately, some of that's still going on today. You know you have different cultures, different prejudices. A big prejudice was men looking down on women.
Speaker 2:They didn't see them as equals, which is so tragic and that would happen for centuries. And Jesus didn't feel that way. Some of his most loyal followers were women and some of his big supporters financially were women. We see that in the Scripture and we see that the first witness to the resurrection was a woman. So Jesus had a high value of not just women but every person. He saw the best in people, people and that particular time, just like today, because of different cultures, different religions, different languages, different faiths, whatever there was a lot of prejudice, there was a lot of bias towards different races or different people. And Jesus was trying to unify people by love, not by dividing people because of skin color or their faith, tradition or their language or whatever. And Jesus was a master at that. Not everybody accepted that, but anyway he was a master of that, but anyway he was a master of that.
Speaker 2:And so we see, just about everywhere he went, he dealt with people with kindness, compassion and mercy. And so, whether it was this woman who was a Canaanite who wasn't Jewish, or it was a Jewish person, whether it was a person whose daughter was sick, whose son was sick, or a person who was blind or mute or whatever blind, he treated them all the same. And so what a great principle for us if we wanted to. How do we treat our people? And we talked about this before.
Speaker 2:Jesus was a master of treating everybody the same. Not everybody respected him. We had the religious leaders you know want to get rid of him because he was kind of creating a new paradigm of how to view God, and they didn't like that at all. And he was upset in the apple cart and so they eventually killed him. But the question was, he did it because he was living out the love that God has for us, that God loves everybody the same. There's not one person that he loves more than he loves another person. And we see that Sometimes we think, well, I've done all this bad stuff, god can't love me. No, anything we do does not decrease God's love for us.
Speaker 2:It's still abundant, it's still incredible, and nothing we can do will ever decrease God's love for us, and that's what I think the message. We start beginning to see that here a lot in chapter 15 of Matthew, as he heals different people, he talks to different people, he's traveling around the country and training His disciples to feel the exact same way. It took a while for that to happen in His disciples because they were arguing, they were trying to be who's the best, who's first? That's just human nature. And then we see, you know, Jesus fed 4,000 people. He fed 5,000 people.
Speaker 2:What a great lesson here. Let's just take that for a minute. Let's talk about the feeding of the 5,000, feeding of the 4,000. So you had a little boy with five loaves and two fish. He comes and some people say the miracle was that everybody shared their lunch.
Speaker 2:I don't believe that. I believe that Jesus actually multiplied the resources. So the question is what resources do we have and do we see unlimited possibilities in the limited resources? Sometimes we think what we need are more resources. Maybe what we need is more creativity, so we can get more out of less. Okay, I would rather have an employee with very little resources but a lot of creativity and energy than a person who is, let's just say, not creative. I don't give them unlimited budget, but a lot of budget, and they don't have to be creative, they don't have to be resourceful. I'd rather have someone who's resourceful and creative with a limited budget, and with churches a lot of times that's what we had was limited budget, and so let them be creative, let them do something. That's just amazing, because they had to be creative and you want those people that can be very creative. They can look at something and see something that you don't see, you just need to give them permission to do it, and so that, to me, is good leadership.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's in my email signature hire for attitude, train for everything else right, you can give them the tools. I just need somebody that's going to show up. That fits the mold of somebody that wants to be here. Right, and sometimes that's one of the biggest things is show up and have that, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so one of the things that we began to see and this is an entire book of Matthew, it was that Jesus was really good at leading himself. He took care of himself. He got up in the morning, he prayed, he took care of himself. He got up in the morning, he prayed, he took care of himself physically. And so I think that's where leadership starts is self-leadership precedes team leadership and public leadership. So are we taking care of ourself physically? Are we taking care of ourselves spiritually, emotionally? Are we taking care of ourselves financially? And not to exclude that, we have to be so focused on our ourselves that we can't focus on others, but we need to think how am I taking care of myself? Am I being a good example for my people? Am I doing that? Well? And Jesus was just a master at that.
Speaker 2:And then we talked about, you know, he had his 12, he had his three, he sent out the 70, he taught the multitudes. He had a private ministry with a few and he had a public ministry with many, but over all of that, his whole thing was a leader, is a servant. So he wanted his 12 to be the best followers he could be, whatever it took, you know whatever sacrifice I have to make to make my followers the best they can be. And so the question is how much are we pouring into our people? Do we want you know, our people, our sales rep, to be the best sales rep the company has ever had, and what are we doing to help them become that? Are we wanting our finance person to be the best finance person they can be, or do we have the right equipment? Do we have the right computer? Do we have software? Do they need some training? What can we do as the leader to help them become the best they can be? And that, to me, is servant leadership.
Speaker 1:So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I like it.
Speaker 1:So that leads us up to, you know, one of my notes here on 16,. You know, Peter sort of buys in that Jesus is the Messiah right, and this is where Jesus starts predicting his death.
Speaker 2:Correct.
Speaker 1:And I guess that sort of you know. How do you think that went over with the disciples?
Speaker 2:I think they were shocked and in full denial at the beginning. I mean, here's this guy they've been with for a couple of years, you know, they've traveled together, they've eaten together, they've done ministry together and all of a sudden, jesus is starting to tell them hey, I'm not going to be around forever.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's their whole life.
Speaker 2:Now, right yeah, their whole life is revolved around this guy.
Speaker 1:I stopped everything and followed you and now you're saying you're going to just abandon ship on us. I mean that's an interesting thing. It took a while.
Speaker 2:So we see that Jesus began to do it subtly, but then he became more and more. It took a while. So we see that Jesus began to do it subtly, but then he became more and more. The more he got to where he was going to be crucified, the more he began to be very, very clear that there's going to be an end to my life here on earth. I'm not going to abandon you. They had no idea what that meant yet. They found out on the day of Pentecost but I want to make sure that you all get it. You know that you're going to be the one you know. Just think about this.
Speaker 2:The god of all creation came down as a human okay, fully god, fully human and he trusted 12 guys to carry on his work right okay, 12 sinful men to carry on his work, but he had done everything he felt he needed to do in those three years to train them for the task. Now, after he died, they were scared because they felt that their lives were next, but he empowered them to do the work and we'll get to that maybe next week, about his death and resurrection, but the whole thing up until we see that Jesus talking about and even talks about. You know, those who want to be first need to be last. You need to be a servant, and so I did some research.
Speaker 2:I read an article from the Wycliffe Bible Translators at Aaron South Dallas. They do incredible work and have done for decades, but they had an article back in September on their website about the qualities of a servant leader, and so I just want to repeat this as we close out today. I just want to repeat what they said from the Wycliffe Bible translators, because they deal with this all the time in their translations. But there were six qualities of a servant leader, and we've talked about these before, but maybe not in this order. One was integrity, one was humility, one was flexibility, one was resilience, one was being a steward of resources and one was empathy.
Speaker 2:And so if we look at all of those as we are as leaders, it's a whole different paradigm of how we lead people. Integrity was their number one thing. And I'm thinking, yeah, you know, we walk our talk, we're a person of our word. We treat people with respect, but we're humble about it and we don't like feel that we're God's gift to the world. We admit when we're wrong. We seek advice if we need advice, and then flexibility. You know we might be going down a path and we realize, you know what, that might not be the right way.
Speaker 2:We might need to listen to the people and do this, and so it was a great list. But that's what Jesus was all about, was you know, having being a servant leader, serving your people and then pouring your life into them so they can be the best they can be.
Speaker 1:You know, and that's one of the things is, you know, it's believing in your people making you better. I always tell people I'd rather be surrounded by people that are 12 times as good as me right. You know every day of the week, so yeah. I don't have to be the smartest person in the room. Don't want to be the smartest person in the room. I want to empower everybody else to be the smartest person in the room yeah, and that to me that's a good leader is they're not threatened.
Speaker 1:Um, I, you know, and the people that you work with, uh, everybody so many people get threatened, right, you know, they don't want to tell them, they don't want to delegate. They don't want to tell them, they don't want to delegate. They don't want to keep all these cards to themselves. Right, I'm going to keep the cards to myself. That way, nobody has all the information to do what I do, because they'll replace me. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It doesn't work that way. The more you empower your people, the more you raise them to the next level. It takes you up to a higher level, because they're even at a higher level, so anyway my soapbox.
Speaker 2:I could get on that. Yeah, you talk about that a lot in your seminars.
Speaker 1:So where are we going? We made it a little bit more down the road, right, I think we made it to like chapter 19.
Speaker 2:So next time we'll talk about the last week of Jesus' life, which is, you know, we talk about that with Palm Sunday life, which is, you know, we talk about that with Palm Sunday. And then we'll talk about the trial and the crucifixion, resurrection, and now those stories are repeated in the Gospels. All right, so I think it's important for us to, if you haven't heard the story, or maybe you haven't heard it in a long time, to just re-familiarize ourselves with that. And then the question is what are the leadership principles that we can learn from that? And there's obviously a bunch, and we'll get to those, see if we time this.
Speaker 1:We've got to time this with Easter a while back right, but look at us, you know but yeah, I'm enjoying this, you know.
Speaker 1:but yeah, that's, that's I. I've been, I'm enjoying this, you know, and and I think there's just so much to unpack through all these chapters it's it's sort of amazing, you know, how much you can get out of this and and I'm I'm just curious, because a lot of these things, you know, they start to overlap. I think we're going to be able to pull different ideas out of this. I think this taking the time in Matthew is very important, because then when we're unwrapping them in Mark and some of these other chapters, then we've already sort of unwrapped it. We start unwrapping and then we can go even a little bit deeper, dive on some of these that we're talking about.
Speaker 2:I totally agree with that, yeah, so other than that, you know, I guess running at the end of this thing the only thing that I'm lacking here dr posey is some dad jokes to close this thing out.
Speaker 1:So yeah, so I had a boss one time that said you're never going to advance in your applause because, uh, I am last minute tim right okay.
Speaker 2:So what did the cactus wear to his job interview?
Speaker 1:cactus wear to his job interview. Oh see that construction language. Come on me. I. I already had a joke there, but it wasn't.
Speaker 2:I can't go where I want to go with it. Where's my mute?
Speaker 1:button. I can tell you off line I do not know.
Speaker 2:He wore a cacti All right, okay, what has more letters than the alphabet.
Speaker 1:What has more letters than the alphabet?
Speaker 2:The post office. All right, fair enough.
Speaker 1:All right, I got nothing. Here's the thing. My jokes are just groaners right? Oh well I don't ever have those Right. But you've got 500,000 jokes in front of you.
Speaker 2:You just scroll down and usually I'm doing all the show prep. I don't have 500,000. All right, 450,000. Yes.
Speaker 1:So I'm usually in the business. I'm going to make a commitment next week I'm going to come up with some good dad jokes. I'm going to search the highs and lows and come up with some good ones. So, anyway, you started asking me a question before I went down that path.
Speaker 2:I don't remember what that was.
Speaker 1:Okay, great, you had another dad joke.
Speaker 2:I have so many dad jokes. The question is, how do I want to end the show this week?
Speaker 1:Oh well, I could throw in a construction one. Like some of my guys, they're so slow. I sort of call them snails, right. But how do snails fight? Have you ever thought about that? How do snails fight? Have you ever thought about that?
Speaker 2:How do snails fight?
Speaker 1:Guys are slow, they're like snails sometimes, but really how do they fight? I don't know.
Speaker 2:They slug it out.
Speaker 1:Slug it out, okay.
Speaker 2:Okay here's my last one for the day. Yeah, please, I can't reach the button. Wow, I'm going to mute that one. Okay, you know, if there's one thing in the world that always gives me butterflies, what do you think?
Speaker 1:that is.
Speaker 2:One thing in the world that always gives me butterflies Flowers, caterpillars.
Speaker 1:All right, I'll give you that All righty. Well, we're done with the dad jokes.
Speaker 2:I think I think we're done. Our listeners are going. Please be done with your dad jokes.
Speaker 1:Hey, we got to do our dad jokes. That makes us happy. All right, guys, Check us out biblicalleadershipshowcom. Have a great week.
Speaker 2:Let us know if there's anything we can do for you, but other than that, everybody, make it a great day.
Speaker 1:We'll talk to you next week. We'll come back. Finish the book of Matthew, maybe finish the book of Matthew. Alright, guys, make it a great day. Bye.
