The Biblical Leadership Show
Inspiration. Wisdom. Leadership from a Higher Perspective.
Welcome to The Biblical Leadership Show, your go-to resource for discovering timeless truths from Scripture that empower leaders to inspire, influence, and impact their world. Hosted by Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey, this podcast takes a deep dive into the Bible’s profound lessons on leadership, bringing fresh perspectives to timeless principles that resonate in today’s fast-paced, ever-changing world.
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The Biblical Leadership Show
The Final Days: Jesus's Leadership Journey through Jerusalem
What separates exceptional leaders from average ones? The answer lies in proactivity—taking initiative without being prompted. As we explore Jesus's final days in Matthew's Gospel, we discover a masterclass in leadership that remains profoundly relevant today.
Jesus demonstrated remarkable proactivity throughout Holy Week. From arranging his entrance into Jerusalem to preparing his disciples for his departure, he consistently acted with purpose and foresight. When he found the temple courtyard transformed into a marketplace, he drew clear boundaries by overturning tables and driving out merchants. This powerful moment teaches leaders the importance of maintaining organizational focus and realigning with core values when mission drift occurs.
The Last Supper and Garden of Gethsemane reveal another crucial leadership principle: the value of reflection and preparation. Before facing his greatest trial, Jesus took time to pray alone. In our action-oriented business culture, we often sacrifice thoughtful contemplation for immediate activity, yet Jesus shows us that dedicated time for strategic thinking is essential for sound leadership.
Perhaps most significant is Jesus's approach to empowerment. Rather than micromanaging out of insecurity, he prepared his disciples to continue without his physical presence. "True leaders don't just lead followers, they develop other leaders." This philosophy contradicts the fear many leaders have—that empowering others diminishes their own value. In reality, empowerment multiplies an organization's effectiveness.
The Great Commission provides a template for crafting mission statements that inspire action for generations. Ask yourself: Does your leadership style, communication, and example motivate your team to advance your organization's goals? Are you developing the next generation of leaders who will carry the mission forward?
Join us as we unpack these timeless leadership principles that can transform your effectiveness in any context—whether leading a corporation, small business, or community organization. Connect with us at BiblicalLeadershipShow.com to share your leadership journey or request prayer support.
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Speaker 2:Gosh, two years now, almost it's crazy, isn't it it? Is absolutely no. Let's see, we started, yeah, almost over two years. That's fantastic. No it. It is absolutely no. Let's see, we started, yeah, almost over two years that's fantastic. Two years has it been two years? I guess, we started in 20. Yeah, it's been close to two years now. I wonder what episode this is we should look.
Speaker 1:I forgot it was. It's uh, yeah, 70 something really, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:so a year and a half Wow, that's fantastic.
Speaker 1:Well, wonderful, well, hello everyone. My name is Tim Lansford. You're listening to the Biblical Leadership Show and with me, is Dr Dean Posey. Yes, and then we have a special guest, because it is summer and we have a special co-host that joins us every once in a while. And what's your name, madam?
Speaker 3:Elisa.
Speaker 1:Elisa.
Speaker 2:Elisa, nice to see you in the studio.
Speaker 1:Good to be here in the studio right, right here. So she's running around me today. She wanted to come do some podcasting. Well, really, that wasn't even the thought. She didn't know I was going to do podcasting. She just wanted to run around me and then, as a bonus, that she found out that we were doing podcasting.
Speaker 2:It is with our kids growing and out of the house. It's just you know, kids grow up so fast. You got to cherish those moments when the kids actually want to be with you.
Speaker 1:Right, you know that's really awesome. Yeah, you know that's really awesome.
Speaker 2:So it makes me think about the way we raised our kids. You know, our son liked elevators.
Speaker 1:Our daughter liked escalators.
Speaker 2:They were just raised differently.
Speaker 1:Oh boy, I guess I need to work on getting my buttons accessible here with all my computers in front of it. So I didn't know we were starting so soon. No, I think it's great it was. I think we were going down a path there, but nope.
Speaker 2:So we're in Texas, we're in the Arlington Texas area, right, and so I just wanted it's middle of the summer and so I just want to know it gets hot. You know it's really hot here, right, but has anyone checked on Oklahoma? I?
Speaker 1:just want to be sure everything is okay. Too bad, that's a Texas-Oklahoma joke. Did you have a question, madam?
Speaker 3:Yes, I did. It actually is really hot in Oklahoma, but yesterday they did an air show there and it was so cool. It was on the news.
Speaker 1:Really. It's really cool oh wow, that was very cool.
Speaker 3:And then my mom told me a story about how she got to go in the back of one of those planes when they jumped off an air shoot Right, that would be fun.
Speaker 1:That was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would be fun.
Speaker 1:All right, you right, that would be fun. That was, yeah, that would be fun, all right. Well, you, I, I, you gotta understand here in the studio, guys, dr posey has like this this I have a control center of computers and and, uh, lots of levers and all that stuff and you have all the colored buttons. I have all the colored buttons, but Dr Posey has this array of dad joke boxes, calendars printed sheets and he is sporting that side of the table.
Speaker 3:I just have a cup of boba.
Speaker 1:You just got a cup of boba and she's eating some boba.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, I just wanted to. Let's just start this off right now. Today we're going to be talking about the last part of the book of Matthew, starting with chapter 21, which is the beginning of Holy Week, the triumphal entry as we call it, or Palm Sunday as it's referred to historically. But let's just talk about that in relationship to preparation for a podcast like this.
Speaker 2:You know you can't just walk in and do it. You've got to be proactive. Jesus was so proactive about everything, Even when he was praying he was proactive about that. I think that's one of the signs of a good leader is that they are proactive 100%.
Speaker 2:And they're ready, they're proactive, they think about things. Sometimes, when we're proactive, we might, you know, make a wrong choice. Jesus never made a wrong choice. We make wrong choices sometimes, but it's like the question for those of you who are, you know, out and are listening on, is how proactive are you when it comes to leading? Let's just say you're the leader of your softball team, you know softball season, you know, do you kind of wait until you get on the field for the game in order to do the lineup, or are you ready? Do you sit down and think about the lineup before you even get to the field? I mean, think about the night before or maybe a couple of days before.
Speaker 2:And I think just being proactive is such a fundamental essence characteristic of leaders. And so we see that, with Jesus here, he had completed his mission on earth. It was the last week of his life. He was going to get on a donkey and ride into the city of Jerusalem, which was very prophetic. People were waiting for the Messiah. From the Old Testament we see that the Messiah was going to ride in on a donkey, and so he did that very proactive about who he was going to be, what he was doing what he was going to be doing the rest of the week. And so just think about that. In your life as a leader, how proactive are you? Or are you just kind of waiting with your to-do list and going? I don't want to. I just don't want to do that, and I do think even that one characteristic separates a good leader from an average leader is how proactive are you, not on just one thing, but how proactive are you on many things?
Speaker 1:Right. So yeah, All right. Did you have a story about being proactive?
Speaker 3:I actually had a question what does proactive mean?
Speaker 1:Oh, that's a great question.
Speaker 2:You're asking that to your dad or you're asking it to me?
Speaker 1:Let's go Dr Posey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay. So let's just say you get ready for school. Let's just say what time does school start when you go to school? What time do you have to leave to go to school in the morning?
Speaker 3:I would say around 7.40.
Speaker 2:7.40, okay.
Speaker 3:But we're going to have to go way earlier because you actually have to be in class now by 8. You have to be in class by 8.
Speaker 2:You have to be in class by 8. And so you leave your house at 7.40, maybe 7.30?.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay. So let me just tell you, when I was a little older than you okay, I grew up in Albuquerque, new Mexico the junior high that I went to was literally right behind our back fence. So I just jumped over the back fence, walked across the field. I could be at the school in five minutes. Okay, just walking the school. The bell rang at about 8, maybe 8.15. I don't exactly remember. My mom would try to get me up, starting about 7. I finally got up about quarter to 8 and jump in the clothes, eat a quick breakfast and just jump out of the you know over the back fence and get to class.
Speaker 2:That is not being proactive. Being proactive is saying you know what? I have a responsibility to be at a certain place at a certain time and I would like to be early things actively so that when I actually get to school I am ready. Oh, I forgot my backpack. It's because I didn't pack it the night before. Oh, I didn't pack my lunch, it's because I didn't get up early enough to do that. So being proactive means you take the initiative to do things that you know you need to have happen, but you do them without being told Okay, so you just take the activity yourself. You take the initiative to do the things that you know need to happen, but you do that because you want to do it. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I am not proactive.
Speaker 2:You're not proactive.
Speaker 3:No, I just sit and watch TV. My parents do all that stuff.
Speaker 2:Oh, they do all that stuff yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, that is not true. Actually. I mean, you were proactive. You got yourself dressed this morning. Right Said do you want me to put out clothes for you? We set out clothes for Luke for his basketball practice today.
Speaker 3:That's not duh. He doesn't have to dress himself.
Speaker 1:He does and he could have. But we said we could get it because we had bought some new stuff for him. But you proactively got up, you got dressed, you were ready to go for the time and all that stuff. Nobody had to tell you that. So you do do things proactive.
Speaker 3:I mean, it took me an hour to get out of bed, but sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, hour to get out of bed, but sure, yeah, well, let's just say this right here I've had a list like this for maybe 15, 20 years, and guess what it's called? It's called the Dean's List, okay.
Speaker 1:Which is so awesome. Which is so awesome.
Speaker 2:Okay, and so these are the things that I need to do this week and probably by the end of the week this will be filled. The question is I know I need to do these things, like I need to call this person, I need to call this person about this. Am I just going to sit there and not do it, or am I going to be proactive, initiate? Oh, I need to call this person because we said we were going to have lunch, so I'm going to take the initiative to call them and set up a time to do that together. So that's being proactive. Jesus was very proactive with his teaching, with his discipling, with his ministry, and so we see that, specifically at the last week of his life, when he was saying hey, you know, my time on earth is done. I'm going to be proactive, I'm going to get on the donkey ride in to Jerusalem, knowing what's coming, but I'm still going to do it anyway. Right.
Speaker 1:So what do you have?
Speaker 3:So I was proactive, because me and my best friend, ava I'm not going to say her last name for privacy reasons, but see, me and her we have. I think mom's going to let us do it, but me and her have a sleepover planned for tomorrow. We already have the time set up, everything's set up Everything, and my mom's like I don't know, but I really think she's going to let it because we've already planned out all the times I can let her know hey, you need to go home at 9 am instead of this 11. We planned, but that's okay, and so I really think mom's going to let us do it tomorrow.
Speaker 3:I'm so excited and I was proactive when I planned that, because we were all on the phone for an hour.
Speaker 1:Well, that's excellent. That would be proactive.
Speaker 2:That's being proactive, and I think one of the best characteristics of any person of any age is being proactive. Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 1:Yeah, instead of being reactive, you age is being proactive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, 100% yeah. Instead of being reactive, you know being proactive.
Speaker 1:And so you know it's a difference between a person that still has multiple companies and somebody that's retired.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they both. One of them has more money.
Speaker 1:Well, yes, that's what my Dean's list looks like.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's what my Dean's List looks like yeah, it's about like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dean's List is one page.
Speaker 3:That's it?
Speaker 1:What is it? Mine's 76 things right.
Speaker 3:It's my Dean's List.
Speaker 1:I think last time I checked I had 76 things on my to-do list, and I know you're not supposed to make to-do lists. It depends on what school you're from. I'm old school from. I'm old school. I write it down just because I don't want to.
Speaker 3:I was writing it down in private school.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, someone told me a long time ago I wish I had learned this earlier in life. But a pen and paper are better than any memory, and when I first started out in ministry I thought I could remember everything you know. And then I'd like oops, I forgot to do that, and so I started writing things down, making a list, you know, doing the Stephen Covey thing with the ABCs.
Speaker 1:ABCs one, two, three.
Speaker 2:It made such a difference 100%, because then I could and I normally did that on Sunday night so I would be ready for the next week. And once I started doing that I thought, wow, it's so simple, but it's so good to be organized and you can prioritize. And then you can think, oh, these are the A things I got to get done tomorrow, or these are the B things that I can put off till maybe Wednesday or Thursday, and these C things if they happen, great. If they don't happen, great. But so many people they make maybe a list of ABCs and then they do the C list, you know, and they always do the fillers and they never get to the priority stuff.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And that's being proactive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and it's part of it. All right, so let's get back to our stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Jesus rides into Jerusalem on a donkey. That fulfills Zechariah 9-9. Yes, but then there's a little thing we talked about a little bit because Elisa brought it up, you know, as far as he cleanses the temple and overturns tables, and so what's sort of the thought process there, and didn't you bring that up to us?
Speaker 3:Yes, I did. I thought about it because, since I go to a private school, that's Christian we actually did an assignment on it and we had to write. We had to do this thing where we had to make a picture, do something on it, and it was really fun. But I drew a picture and I knew he overgrown tables because there were verses that went with it, and so I looked at all the verses and it told everything about that it told every day of what I should draw.
Speaker 3:So I drew it, and I actually know that. The one who betrayed jesus I forgot his name. Do y'all know judas? Yes, judas, he actually traded gold coins for jesus's info.
Speaker 2:Yes, he did.
Speaker 3:And those would be worth a lot now, but we think he used them up because bro was greedy for that.
Speaker 2:So he overturned the tables. And why did he do that? Did you understand why he?
Speaker 3:was so filled with rage because he was really mad about them, turning it into a farmer's market sort of thing he decided I am so mad, he was pure, but he still was human. So he built up rage over time and his rage turned into an overwhelming sensation of madness. So he flipped tables filled with these items and he was so mad that he was going to kill him. And he was going to kill him and he was going that they were selling so they would scramble, run, get away, go go, go.
Speaker 2:And where did they do all this? Where was the marketplace in?
Speaker 3:It was in this temple, kind of I think it used to be like a church or a worship place and they've turned it into this market so he was slipping over tables and everything, but it was out of like this temple of praise, I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so there was a temple there in Jerusalem and around the temple there was a courtyard, okay, and so in the courtyard area was where people set up to exchange money to sell animals for sacrifice, and there was nothing wrong with the exchange, or there's nothing wrong with doing the selling of the animals. But the problem was it should have been outside the temple area and they had made the temple area which was supposed to be a holy place of prayer and gathering of the people.
Speaker 2:They had turned that into, like you said, a marketplace. And Jesus said no, this is my Father's house, this should be a house of prayer. Jesus said, no, this is my Father's house, this should be a house of prayer. And you've turned it into a marketplace. So he said I can't take this anymore. I'm going to stand up, I'm going to draw the line and we're not going to do this anymore. And I think what a great leadership principle in that is that sometimes, as leaders, we have to look at our organization and realize where have we stepped over the line? You know we're going to draw the line and say you know what, we're not going to do this anymore. Whatever that is, you know a good leader will evaluate that.
Speaker 2:Now, sometimes you have to get some input from your you know your managers or your other, your colleagues or whatever, and say you know what? I don't think we need to either have this product anymore. We don't need to be about that. Maybe we need to downsize this area right here so we can focus on this. And that's what Jesus was saying. Hey, we're here to focus on God. You know, if you want to sell, go sell over there. But in this area, right here, this is dedicated to God. And so he drew the line and I think what a great leadership principle that we say. You know, sometimes we have to just set boundaries to say we're going to be focused on this and we're not going to be focused on stuff outside the boundaries. And sometimes that's really hard, especially if you've been doing that for a long, long time and an organization's kind of been, you know, just kind of gotten by. And you know, sometimes you have to let people go.
Speaker 2:Sometimes, you have to let a product line go.
Speaker 1:It's a hard time to redirect and figure out where the hiccups are and all that stuff. And it's one of those things to piece it together and to look, and sometimes you have to audit, do a yearly audit or every five years or whatever it might be.
Speaker 3:Yes, exactly, and look at it.
Speaker 1:Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3:Sometimes actually sometimes it can be a product or even a person. If there's a negative person in the zone and it's bringing everybody down, they're being a procrastinator, putting off their work at the last minute, laying it on somebody else. Sometimes you'll have to say no, you're not, you're fired.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and, and you know, people can be very busy but that doesn't mean they're productive. And so you've got to look at productivity, not just busyness, and say you know what? We're going to give you a 90-day growth plan. I expect this to happen, these things to be happening in the next 90 days, or if they don't happen, then I'm going to let you go. I mean, you've got to draw a line at some point.
Speaker 1:You have to have accountability. Yeah, that's a good word. You have to have that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think that's what Jesus was saying hey, we're going to start holding people accountable to what they're doing in the sight of God.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And so that happened. There's other things that happened, a lot of parables during that week. You know Monday, tuesday, wednesday there is some stories. He has some confrontation with some of the religious leaders, and then we get to the Thursday where it is the Last Supper and Jesus gathers his disciples together. We read what you just said, elisa, that Judas betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of silver and because Judas had an idea that he wanted Jesus to be a leader of the people to revolt against Rome and Jesus was not that kind of leader—Jesus had this Last Supper with his disciples and Holy Communion, or the Eucharist or the Mass, is based on that evening's meal with the disciples, and so part of my doctorate dissertation was based on that particular evening and the study of Holy Communion throughout the centuries, like what happened at the Last Supper and how does that ritual change over time to different denominations.
Speaker 2:And so that was a fascinating study but very powerful event there that Jesus was telling his disciples hey, this is my last night with you. You know you're going to fall away, but we're sending the comforter to you. And so if you actually begin to read from John 13, I know we're in Matthew, but if you read that through chapter 17, it's called the Great Priestly Prayer talks about all of that. In the book of Matthew we read about the Last Supper. So they have this supper. They go out to the Garden of Gethsemane and Jesus prays and I'm thinking he says, hey, you wait here, I'm going to go pray. And so it's like what a great example for leaders.
Speaker 2:Sometimes you just have to have some alone time. You just have to have time to think, process, pray, just think what am I? Is this really what I need to be doing? You need to evaluate, I'm sure in the housing business, what you're in for decades. You're thinking you know what. We need to sit down and really process this architectural plan. We need to think about our budget. We need to do it. You can't just run ahead and move forward. We got to sit down and really process it. So, yeah, so that was a very important evening in the life of the Christian faith, with the Last Supper and the prayer in the garden and the betrayal and Jesus being arrested and all that yeah.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. So, yeah, it's. You know, from a leadership standpoint, there's just ties back to you and the leader and how you set everything up. You know, that's one thing. Jesus sort of had some thoughts, and you know where I'm trying to go, is you know? I just had this big leadership class I taught last week. Where I'm trying to go, is you know? I just had this big leadership class I taught last week and I talked to him. I taught him the difference between training somebody, coaching somebody and empowering somebody. You know, empowering is when you just let them do it. I mean, that's what Jesus, basically empowering him, said you don't need me to do this. You know, and you know, when you're starting out and you have somebody that has the potential, then yeah, you simply can put them in training or a coaching program to get them up to the point where that's what every leader strives for. If you're good as a leader and you can handle that, but you want to try to empower your people and that's one of the biggest things.
Speaker 2:So, going back, tying that into what we said earlier in the podcast being proactive and empowering others Wow, what a great combination of leadership principles that really elevates a leader to not just a good leader, but a better leader, but a better leader. And in order to empower others, which Jesus did, you have to realize that in order to make the company better, or whatever you're leading better, you really need to have the people around you be the best they can be. You can't always rely upon you.
Speaker 1:I don't want to. You can't make every decision.
Speaker 1:I want my people to make all the decisions and they always double check. I don't tell them to double check. They sometimes want to. And one of the things I taught in the same class is if somebody calls me and says Richard calls me and says, hey, we got a problem out here at this, you know, smith job, I'm like all right. Well, what's the problem? And I think I might've even mentioned on here before I don't tell them the answer to the problem. I go how would you solve this if it was me? And they're like I don't know. I'm like well, think about it and call me back. Well, they'll think about it, call me back, and then they'll tell me their answer and I'll be like that's exactly how I would solve it. And it's as simple as that. And what you're doing is training them to go. I can make the decisions. I'm thinking like Tim. I'm thinking now I know how to do this and if you can get to that point, that is just a major deal that you want to do empower them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and not only are you empowering them, you're affirming them. You are saying hey, I believe in you, I believe in your wisdom, I believe that you can make wise decisions for the benefit of the customer and the company, and I trust you. I mean, there's so many good things when you are empowering others to do the work, and that's just a great leadership principle. Some leaders, unfortunately, are so insecure that it's difficult for them to empower others, because they think they might. Someone might take their job or you know, whatever it's like. No, just the opposite is true. You empower others, your company's going to thrive even more, and so I just encourage that. So I know we're, you know, getting to the end. So let's just finish the end of Matthew.
Speaker 1:We're going to make it through Matthew. I think we're going to make it through Matthew. Yes, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3:So, for all the terms of Jesus's resurrection, do you guys believe that people actually have past lives and they've been reborn?
Speaker 2:actually have past lives and they've been reborn. Well, that would be called reincarnation, okay, and so Christianity. We don't believe that someone dies and then comes back as another being okay. That's reincarnation, that's not resurrection, okay. So I'll get to resurrection in just a minute, because we were talking about the crucifixion. So Jesus was arrested, he was beaten and mocked and all that kind of stuff, which was tragic. He was put on a cross. It was the most cruel form of punishment in the Roman world was crucifixion, and Jesus grew up seeing that. And there were two other people crucified with him at the same time, one on his right, one on his left. And so then we see that he hung on the cross for several hours before he died. Joseph of Arimathea asked Pilate for the body, took the body off the cross, wrapped it in linen where we get the Shroud of Turin from and then he was laid in a tomb and Jesus said, hey, I'm going to raise in three days. Now they heard it, but they didn't really get it.
Speaker 2:And what we see here is that the women that were followers of Jesus went to the tomb first, and so normally we think of when we read the Bible.
Speaker 1:A lot of the ladies out there are going well, of course we did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course, about the person that you might think is least in your organization. They probably have more potential than you realize. Okay, and so these women took it on themselves. They were proactive. They were buying spices. They went to the tomb early. The stone had been rolled away. They went in, didn't see the body and they saw some angels. The angels told them hey, he's not here. And then they were really the first evangelists. And then they were really the first evangelists. And so, thinking about the leaders, your company, your organization, whatever, you've got to realize that every person has potential to make an impact, and sometimes we only think of the people that maybe we're closest to. We might not realize that we can make an impact, literally.
Speaker 2:This morning, before I came to the studio, I was at the gym working out. They had a great swim. I'm getting ready to get in the pool. There's this guy walks into the gym. I've known this guy for probably 20 years because he was a member of the church where I used to pastor, and so we talked a little bit and he was saying just sharing I won't share his name, but he was just sharing that there was a friend of his like a neighbor friend who was not doing well. He got to know this person and that person started coming to church and was baptized last Sunday.
Speaker 1:Nice, yes, that's awesome, yeah, it was so awesome to hear him church and was baptized last Sunday, nice. Yes, that's awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was so awesome to hear him and he was so excited and, believe it or not, this guy is like 80 years old, but he was so excited and it's like, wow, what potential. And sometimes we look at people and because of their age or their physical shape or whatever, we discount them. And how wrong are we to do that? Because every person has potential for something. And so we see that in the women, and they took the initiative to go to the tomb. They didn't see the body. They ran back, told the disciples. The disciples didn't believe them. But even though the disciples didn't believe, it didn't change the woman's conviction of what they had seen. And so let's get to resurrection.
Speaker 2:Resurrection means that when we physically die, that our soul, spirit, is up in heaven with Jesus. Okay, our body is not Our body's in the ground, but we are alive for all eternity because of our belief in Christ. And so reincarnation would mean that we would die and we'd come back as another person or an animal. And some religions believe that. Christianity doesn't. They believe in resurrection so that we live forever with God in heaven. And so we see that in the book of Matthew, and at the very end of the book of Matthew we read what's called the Great Commission. And so Jesus said hey, go into all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, son and Holy Spirit and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. I will be with you to the end of the age. And those few words have transcended through time as what's called the Great Commission and has been a stimulus for so many people to evangelize, to go around the world for literally 2,000 years, to share faith, to promote Christianity.
Speaker 2:And so let's just think about leadership principles. What is your mission statement? Doing that Is your mission statement motivating people. Is your lifestyle motivating people? Are your habits, whatever they are? Are they motivating people to promote the company, to build a company, or are they just kind of being lackadaisical? Jesus gave a powerful message there at the end. That's still motivating people 2,000 years later. And so I'm thinking wow, as a leader, what am I doing to motivate my people? Is it me? Is it my encouragement? Is it my tone of voice? What am I doing to do that? And so everybody's got to be open to a self-evaluation to figure out what am I doing to motivate my team?
Speaker 1:I think one of the my favorite thing is true leaders don't just lead followers, they develop other leaders, and that's one of the biggest things that we believe. I think that Jesus did and he's developing other leaders.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so it's like am I just training somebody or am I training them to train the next generation? And that is really a great question.
Speaker 1:Did you have any last comments real fast before Dr Posey?
Speaker 2:gets into some dad jokes. Yeah, I've got some really good dad jokes.
Speaker 3:I'm going to do some after you too.
Speaker 2:You are.
Speaker 3:So basically, I actually think that if you love an animal, sometimes you can like look through the animal's eyes. Sometimes I think that you can actually do that. If you're, like, deceased and you want to watch a family member, maybe you could look through somebody's like a bird or somebody's eyes, because sometimes a cardinal will fly by and eat some food from our feeder and me and my brother and my dad will say oh look, there's Grandma Popcorn.
Speaker 1:Right, she loved cardinals, didn't she Big cardinals?
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, something like that can remind us of a person that we love.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 2:So okay, here's a dad joke.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we need to transition dad jokes.
Speaker 2:Okay, so what has more letters than the alphabet? I don't know. The post office. I'm going to read one now. You're going to read one now.
Speaker 3:What did the nose say to the finger?
Speaker 2:What did the nose say?
Speaker 3:to the finger.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't nose if I know know nope, it's quit picking on me oh okay, oh my goodness, uh, okay. So, uh, you know, last week, um, we uh were in californ, california, visiting our Dino's uncle and our kids. We had a great time, but while we were there, we went to an eyeglass convention.
Speaker 1:Eyeglass convention. Yes, that seems something fun to do.
Speaker 2:It was real spectacle.
Speaker 3:What did the man say when he walked into a bar? Oh boy, oh, what did?
Speaker 1:the man say when he walked into a bar oh boy.
Speaker 2:Oh, what did the man say when he walked into a bar? I don't know what did he say Ouch, oh, good job.
Speaker 1:Good job. One more Dr P, one more, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, does an apple a day really keep the doctor away?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:Yeah, only if you aim it well, that's right, All right, guys.
Speaker 1:That'll wrap up our show here and we'll cut them off at some dad jokes here. We can do some dad jokes next week. Oh, you got one more?
Speaker 2:No, I'll save One more.
Speaker 3:I already have it. I think I just got. I don't know where the page went. Oh, I found it.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 3:What do you call a ghost's true love?
Speaker 2:What do you call a ghost's True love? What do you call a ghost True love? I don't know.
Speaker 3:They're a ghoul friend.
Speaker 2:Okay. We have it there.
Speaker 1:I like it. All right, guys, Thank you for listening today. Check us out Biblical leadership showcom. Uh, you know, tellleadershipshowcom. Tell us any prayer requests. You got anything, any little topics you want to talk about? Well, that finishes up Matthew.
Speaker 2:Yes and if you're joining our show. Just let other people know about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:We appreciate all the listeners that we have around the country.
Speaker 1:Yeah, around the world. We got some over at the pond too.
Speaker 3:That's good.
Speaker 1:Can I say the outro. Yeah, well, maybe do you remember the outro, so all right. Oh, you don't remember the outro. Well, how are you going to say the outro when you do it? Well, you can repeat it after dr posey, because dr posey, are you ready? Yeah, make it a great day. Make it a great day, all right, guys. Thank you, bye.
