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Leadership Lessons from the Gospel of Mark
Ever wonder what ancient wisdom can teach us about leading in today's fast-paced world? The Gospel of Mark offers a masterclass in leadership that transcends time and culture, revealing strategies as relevant in boardrooms as they were on dusty roads 2,000 years ago.
Mark's Gospel stands out for its emphasis on action and immediacy. The word "immediately" appears over 40 times in just 16 chapters, highlighting Jesus as a leader who didn't merely talk but moved with decisive purpose. In a world where many can articulate grand visions but struggle with implementation, this action-oriented leadership provides a powerful contrast to corporate cultures mired in endless planning cycles and analysis paralysis.
When anxiety strikes within organizations—whether from market uncertainties, supply chain disruptions, or personnel challenges—it can spread like wildfire. Mark, Chapter 4 shows Jesus calming a literal storm, but the metaphorical application for leaders is clear: effective leadership creates calm amid organizational chaos. This doesn't mean being artificially positive but rather addressing concerns proactively through appropriate communication channels before they destabilize the entire team.
Perhaps the most revolutionary concept appears in Mark 10:45: "The Son of man came not to be served, but to serve and to give his life as ransom for many." This flips traditional power dynamics on their head. While earthly kings take, the heavenly king gives. When leaders adopt this servant mindset, prioritizing their teams' growth and well-being over personal gain, they create environments where people and organizations flourish.
Are your team members "all in" with your organization's mission, or simply going through the motions? Do you maintain momentum through immediate action, or get stuck in perfectionism? Has your open-door policy created genuine approachability? The leadership lessons from Mark challenge us to examine these questions and transform good leadership into something truly extraordinary.
Reach out to us at biblicalleadershipshow.com with your questions, prayer requests, or topic suggestions. We'd love to hear how these principles are transforming your leadership journey!
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Speaker 2:How are you doing?
Speaker 1:today official. We got to do it every time, so I'm doing great. Dr posey, how are you doing?
Speaker 2:I am doing good. Hey, we had a j 4th weekend. It was just fantastic.
Speaker 1:Spent a little time down at the lake, did a little relaxation, we watched the fireworks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the community we lived in we liked the fireworks. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1:So we have another special guest in here. Two weeks in a row. It's summer and she likes to come hang out with us and hang out with dad in the office. But who's with us today? What's your name?
Speaker 3:Elisa Elisa.
Speaker 1:Did you have a good time at the lake and fireworks and everything?
Speaker 3:The food was so good.
Speaker 1:It was good, it was good, good, good. But yeah, we're here back in the studio doing our thing and you know, do you have a good?
Speaker 2:force. Yeah, we have a good force. So let me just tell you, and we're gonna go right into leadership, leadership, leadership. Yeah, imagine that. But before that, before that, why did the river have trouble remembering things?
Speaker 3:because they just flowed through his brain.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a good answer. That was pretty good. I'll have another answer, because he was becoming senile.
Speaker 3:It was kind of like your eyeglass joke last week.
Speaker 2:That was bad yeah.
Speaker 1:Is that what we should give him?
Speaker 2:So the community that Diane and I have lived in for 25 years Little Azle just outside of Fort Worth we really like the people there. The community is awesome. They have an event on July 4th. They've had it, for this was the 32nd year. It's called Follow the Flag. It was started by an incredible guy by the name of Lou Schaefer, who was a colonel in the Air Force. He was an avid Christian, very passionate about the Lord, and he wanted to do something to honor the country and Christ for the 4th of July. So we started this like in his own property, and it's just grown to now there's like 15,000 people to show up, wow. So there's Christian bands Wow, that's cool. All the churches get together, give out free food we were giving out iced tea and then at about 9-15, they have fireworks, and one of the things that I used to do many years ago was I helped light all the fireworks. So that was so I told people that was like my most fun 15 minutes of the year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 2:We were lighting all these fireworks. Now there's Pro seat right, yeah it was all electronic now, but back then you actually had to have like a butane lighter light the fuse get away the way.
Speaker 2:It was so much fun. But we still enjoy the fireworks and just having that community spirit and the people are all there and families, and just it's just really good. And so let me just, let's just go into leadership for just a minute, because the only way that could happen is if the businesses of the community actually support that financially. They support it with product, they support it with their advertising. And so my question is for you, whatever organization that you lead, whatever it is, how involved are you in the community? Do you donate your time to say, like Habitat for Humanity, do you give your people a day off if they go work at the local food bank? Do you donate time, resources, whatever? I think that really creates synergy with your people. It gives something that's an intangible, that really binds people together, that they realize that we're not just about ourselves, we're not just about profit, we're really about helping other people.
Speaker 2:That is a really good leadership principle. I mean, that's all Jesus was about. He was about other people and blessing other people. And so the question would be for us whatever company you're at it could be a dry cleaning business, could be a plumbing business, electricity, but whatever it is how much of your time or energy is spent just blessing other people, and it could just be a time thing. I mean, this was just going and volunteering. The church provided the iced tea, so it wasn't that expensive. But it was the principle of actually saying, hey, we're here not just to enjoy it ourselves, we're here so that other people can enjoy it as well. And it was just a great event. It just gets better every year. Yeah, it was just really really an awesome, awesome evening. So, yeah, really good.
Speaker 1:Fun time.
Speaker 2:Really good Fun times.
Speaker 1:Do you have something you want to say?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have a question about the fireworks.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:Did it get crowded really fast or did it stay like just a little?
Speaker 2:bit of people.
Speaker 2:Oh, people will stay until the very end. So they normally have all these fireworks for about 10 to 12 minutes, okay. And then they have the finale, and the finale lasts for like five minutes and it's just one after another just going, going, going and the sky is, and they have it out in this big park right by the library and so you can see, and it's just, and it's dark, and they don't start until like 9.15, 9.20. And then there's a band playing and stuff like that, you know the patriotic music, and it's just a really great experience. And then we park way away because there's so many people. It's just a madhouse to get now, but it's just a great evening and we just enjoy it every year. So, yeah, been doing it a long time. We love it, we love it.
Speaker 3:Fireworks is pretty good too.
Speaker 2:It's really good too, the finale was great. Oh yes.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's always good, pretty, amazing. So I Pretty amazing.
Speaker 1:So I love it when you get out there and it's just, it's a good time of year, you know, to be able to see it, and the two hour drive was worth it. Yes, exactly right, it was All right. So let's talk about this. We finally, finally, finally, finished up the book of Matthew.
Speaker 2:Matthew, and we're starting in the book of Mark.
Speaker 1:We are yes, starting in the book of Mark. We are yes, the book of Mark.
Speaker 3:And I do believe we're still on the topic of Jesus' resurrection.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, we'll get to that later in the podcast today, but let's just talk about Mark.
Speaker 1:Well, let's start. Give us an overview, dr P, on just what, mark and what we expect on this, and then we'll get into breaking everything down.
Speaker 2:Okay. So let's just start by answering a question of who was Mark? Okay, by answering a question of who was Mark? Okay? So if you look at the disciples, the 12 disciples of Jesus, he's not in the list. So you're thinking, well, how come he's not in the list? He wrote a book. Yes, he did.
Speaker 2:Many scholars believe that he was John Mark, who's mentioned in the book of Acts, and John Mark really was very close to both Paul and Peter, peter especially, and most scholars believe not all, but most believe that John Mark was like a scribe and wrote down Peter's teachings and sermons of things that Jesus actually said, and then he got all of these together and then he put them in book order for other people to read and then, with that being the first recorded gospel, then many scholars believe that Luke and Matthew had Mark's resource and then they wrote their own version using some of Mark's things. So that's why we talked about a couple of weeks ago the first three books of the New Testament Matthew, mark and Luke are called the Synoptic Gospels because there's so many similarities in the stories, the order, all those kind of things. Most scholars believe that Mark was first, that he did this. You know, years before that Matthew or Luke was written, and so let's just talk about that.
Speaker 2:For leadership principles Many times great leaders to go from good to great, as you know, that's common said. Sometimes we have to step out of the box and be willing to do something no one else has done, whether that's introduce a new product, whether that's doing something differently. Just think about a musician. Okay, okay, there isn't any new music notes that have been invented.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And for many, many years. There's not any new vocabulary that has been invented, but a really good musician can take what's already there the notes and language and just create something that's just absolutely unique and it stands the test of time. And so that would be like okay, if you're a leader and you are competing in a very competitive world, now what are you going to do to maybe change your product line, change the way you market, do something that no one else is doing in order to set yourself apart from the rest of the crowd? And so we see that in here in Mark, he did something. That other—before then it was all oral tradition. There were maybe things written down about Jesus, but no one had compiled them into like one cohesive story. So because he did that, he really changed history, and we have still copies of that today. It's the second book in the New Testament, the book of Mark, and we're thankful because he was willing to do that. So, yeah, great lesson.
Speaker 1:Are there other? You know you mentioned that maybe Mark was a scribe or anything. Is there any other chapters that really fall under that category?
Speaker 2:Well, if you actually look and I have a book at home that's called the Synoptic Gospels and it's just Matthew, mark and Luke, and then it's like in columns and so you can see this story and certain Bibles have that. If you look up, say, the calming of the storm in Mark, chapter 4, it'll tell you where else in the Bible, like in the book of Matthew, the book of Mark or Luke where else can you find that? If you look like the feeding of the 5,000, that's found in all four of the books. Okay, matthew, mark, luke and John it's one of the few stories that's found in all four books. But the Synoptic Gospel breakdown will tell you exactly where to find it.
Speaker 2:And there might be some words that are a little different, but the basic story, like 95% is exactly the same. Like 95% is exactly the same. And because most scholars believe that Mark was written first, it's like, oh, luke's writing it and he goes why do I have to reinvent this? I can just take it and you know it's like doing a research paper. You do some research but then you put it in your own words and that's what Matthew and Luke did. I see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's— yeah, and I was just doing some stuff here as you were speaking, and the synoptic comes from the Greek syn equals together and optus is view, so it's a together view. They prevent a similar perspective of the life and teachings of Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly right, so I understand that.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, babe.
Speaker 3:Okay. So basically I think Dr Posey's right about the scribe thing. I think he actually is not a disciple, but he's friends with them or something.
Speaker 2:He was a disciple, but he wasn't one of the 12 apostles. Oh yeah, he was a follower of Jesus. A follower of Jesus is a disciple. So you're a disciple, I'm a disciple, your dad's a disciple, your. You're a disciple, I'm a disciple, your dad's a disciple, your mom's a disciple, okay. Disciple is mean a learner or a follower, okay, but Jesus, out of his disciples, he chose 12 to be his apostles.
Speaker 3:Okay, so Mark wasn't one of them, but he got his own chapter in the book.
Speaker 2:Well, he wasn't one of the original 12, but he followed—he was very good friends with Peter, who was—you know Peter and Andrew he was one of them and so he was very close to Peter and he listened to Peter speak and teach and preach, and so he would write down what Peter wrote and then he put all that into a book. That makes a lot more sense. That makes a lot more sense. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because I know Peter and the Twelve turned into saints at the end.
Speaker 2:Right Turned into saints and some denominations view those as saints.
Speaker 3:We'd say St Peter, st Mark, you know, st Paul Actually recently, about a week ago, I went to a new church called St Peter and St Paul's.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 3:And it's in Arlington and basically, apparently it was St Peter and St Paul's Fest, so it was Feast actually.
Speaker 2:Sorry.
Speaker 3:It was like brand new and it was really fun. And see, it was our first time, but it ended up we had like it was a high mass that day.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 3:So it's Catholic and it's like Erengoshian.
Speaker 1:Anglican Anglican.
Speaker 3:I don't know how to say it better.
Speaker 2:So that has a long history. We won't talk about it right now. But the Anglican Church a long, rich tradition that is really around the world is really a forerunner to the Methodist tradition that I'm a part of, and so the founder of the Methodist church was an Anglican priest in England. So is his brother, charles, and so John and Charles Wesley were both Anglican priests in England and they wanted to bring revival to the church. Anglican priests in England and they wanted to bring revival to the church, and that started a new form of faith and a new denomination called Methodism.
Speaker 1:That's nice Anyway.
Speaker 2:That's awesome, yeah, so let's get back to Mark.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's talk about Mark.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so let's just think about. We see something very similar in all the Gospels Matthew, mark, luke and John about Jesus being a servant leader. But let's point out I want to point out in our time today, two particular things. One is in Mark 4, verse 35. Really, in chapter 4, we see there was a storm. The disciples were on a boat. Jesus calmed a storm. The disciples were on a boat, jesus calmed the storm. And so let's talk about that.
Speaker 2:As far as leadership principles are concerned, I think a good leader calms the storms of people's anxiety. He's not trying to be he or she, is not trying to be Pollyannish, not trying to be fake, but when one person gets anxious about the market or supply chain or someone doesn't show up to work, a good leader is proactive. We talked about that last week. A good leader is proactive to calm the storm in the midst of the anxiety, because you know as good as I do that when you have anxiety in one person, it spreads like wildfire through the whole organization and it can be really quick. So does that mean you need to have, like a call staff meeting? Does that mean that you send out emails? Does you need to have some phone calls. Do you need to have some short meetings? What does it mean? How do you calm the storm when something you know hits in your organization? I don't know what works for you.
Speaker 2:I've done all of those, you know. I've had emergency meetings, we've had stand-up meetings, we have sit-down meetings, we have luncheon meetings. We'd send out emails you know whatever just so that we stay ahead of the gossip and people's anxiety. Also, having an open door policy, I've worked with people where they'd come into the office and they'd shut the door. They didn't want to talk to anybody. It's like no, no, when you have something going on that's not good or that's good. You want to be accessible to your people.
Speaker 1:And open door policy. I even take it one step farther and I just taught in one of my leadership classes this week just make sure you have an open door policy. Just because your door is open, are you approachable? Do people trust you enough to come talk to you? Because a lot of people pitch that they have an open door policy but then none of their employees. They're scared to talk to them. They'll walk right by and talk to a coworker and all that. And that's one of the things. Just watch your open door policy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I learned long ago from a really great pastor up in Oklahoma that he would schedule a specific time like from 1115 to noon to return phone calls. Before then he would meet with the staff, he would have staff meetings, but he would have that specific time in the morning and afternoon so he wasn't on the phone all day and that allowed his like he had. He had an open door policy. People could come in. He was very approachable. That taught me a lot. To say who's the prior. Yes, phone calls are important Other customers or business or church members or whatever. But I've also got to be available to the people that are there in the office and if they need to walk in and say something, or we need to talk about something because it just happened, you know, whatever it may be, I need to be available to that. So great point there, tim. Great point Are you actually available to your people?
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100%, yeah Good job. Dad All right, well, thank you, thank you. Am I available as a dad?
Speaker 2:Yes, he is no comment.
Speaker 1:Whatever, whatever.
Speaker 2:You are setting yourself up?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, so let's just talk about another principle that we see in the book of Mark, chapter 10. So in the book of Mark, chapter 10, we read a story about a man that came to Jesus. It's in verse 21. And this man comes to Jesus and he says what must I do to inherit eternal life? And Jesus said to him why do you call me good? No one is good except God. You know the commandments Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not bear fault with us, do not defraud, honor your father and mother.
Speaker 2:Now there's 10 commandments. The first six are towards God, the first four are towards God, the last six are towards humans and, interesting, he only talks about the ones towards human beings. And then he said to him teacher, all these I have done from my youth. And Jesus said, looking at him, he loved him and said you lack one thing. Go and sell all you have and give to the poor. You have treasure in heaven. Come, follow me. Disheartened by the saying, he went away sorrowful. He had great possessions.
Speaker 2:So I think sometimes we think, oh gosh, does Jesus want me to give up everything? No, jesus wants you to be all in. That's the key, whether you have money or not is not the issue. Are you all in for Jesus or is there something else that's a greater priority? And so the question I would have for those of you who are leaders is are your people all in? Are they all into the vision, are they all into the mission of your company? Are they just sitting there thinking they wish they were somewhere else, or they wish they were at lunch, or they wish they were out in the field? Are they all in for what you're doing? And that was Jesus' focus. He wanted his followers to be all in, and a good leader is able to know, because they know their people Are my people all in or not? So that's a really powerful leadership lesson.
Speaker 1:Right? Did you have something or are you good?
Speaker 3:That's a thing to say Okay. So last week I talked about how me and Ava planned a sleepover. We talked about proactive and that sleepover worked and it was so fun, yeah, it was Well good.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you had to have that.
Speaker 3:Great.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, you talked about your friends, so I have a son and a daughter. Several years ago, my son wanted to get a pet porcupine that had lost all of its quills.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 2:I said no because I thought it was pointless.
Speaker 3:That's pretty good, that one's pretty good. Oh Got to admit it All right.
Speaker 1:So another major theme in Mark that in my show prep I got is action over words. You know less about long teachings, more about what Jesus actually does in there. I think that's one of the things that I sort of took away from Mark. You know healing, helping, rebuking, restoring and all that stuff. So and then I was tying that into leadership. You know, or if a lot of times the people that talk a big story but they don't actually commit to doing any of the work commit to moving the company forward, you know you can have this big mission we harp on mission like every show. You know we talk about mission but if you're not actually physically working towards implementing that, mission working towards a greater good in your personal life, in your business life, into your spiritual life.
Speaker 1:you know, or are you actually moving forward?
Speaker 2:you know, and I think that's one of the things I took out of this, yes, and I'll just share from experience and some of you who are, you know the boss and you hire and fire people or just say let them go, suspend or whatever. Unfortunately, I had an experience several years ago with a youth director who I thought he was phenomenal and the kids all liked him and everything, and he was there for I guess five, six months and then I began to realize, well, the youth aren't really doing anything. And so I sat in on a couple of the Sunday night meetings and I realized that he was just like you said. He was a really good talker and he would always talk about what they were going to do, but what they were going to do never actually happened. And so it's like we had to have a serious conversation about that because he was getting all the youth excited, but then there wasn't any follow through and eventually we had to let him go because he didn't want to change.
Speaker 2:And those are hard decisions. When you have to hold people accountable, you don't want just people of their word, you want people of their action. And so I think you know, going back, we talked about that on the very first podcast that we did a year and a half ago about. Are you a person of your word and you know, is your word your bond? Are you actually going to do what you say you're going to do? And I think that's part of a leader's job is to not only do that but to know are your other people doing that as well? Right, yeah, and you have to do that in a kind it's hard to let someone go. It's never easy to do it, so you have to do it with, you know, humility and integrity. You don't want to, you know, do it in condemnation and criticism and that's not a good way to do it. It's not ever easy, but sometimes it just has to get done.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately, yeah, and then it has to. And I was looking at this and through my research, you know, I was trying to point out and ask different questions and I think one of the big things that came up is Mark 10-45. The Son of man came not to be served, but to serve and to give his life as ransom for many. I think that's a pretty powerful statement. It summarizes the Gospel of Mark in a way right His whole life.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's his whole life. He came to give, and so the church we go to we had the associate pastor preach, so he's new to the ministry. He was phenomenal and he said something that I hadn't really thought of before. So the heavenly king Jesus is a king who gives. An earthly king is normally one who takes. Okay, that's good.
Speaker 2:And so that summarized Jesus right there. It's like no, he gave his life as a ransom for men. He came to give and he came to serve. He came to be a servant. He came to give and he came to serve. He came to be a servant. He came to be humble. He came to be a teacher and he knew who he was. He was very comfortable in his own skin, he knew what his mission was, but he didn't look down on people, look down his nose on people and think he was better than them.
Speaker 2:So many times we see leaders or whoever that just they just think they're better than other people and that's not good for the organization at all. You know you might, you might have a degree, you might have more talent, whatever, you might have some background, but you got to be real careful in how you treat other people, because once you start thinking that you're better than them, they know that real quick and it's going to be you might start losing people and you begin to wonder why. And it's you. You need to go do some self-evaluation. So great point, tim. Great, great point.
Speaker 1:And one more thing that came up and I thought was really good is the word immediately.
Speaker 2:Immediately.
Speaker 1:Was used over 40 times.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:And this is a very short chapter a very short gospel, I guess, yeah, 16 chapters yeah, and over 40 times.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that was a point of get out there and Jesus was doing it. It wasn't all talk, it was moving forward. I think that really ties back into what we're talking about as far as corporations and leadership right.
Speaker 2:Yes, and Mark loved that word.
Speaker 1:He did.
Speaker 2:He really loved that word and almost you can't, almost not read a chapter without him using that word immediately, something. So, jesus, like you're right, he immediately did this, he immediately did that, he immediately did that. And so it's like what does that say? And it means he didn't sit around. He knew he had a limited time on this earth to accomplish a mission to empower his followers to carry on his work, and so he was about doing those things, things, and he wanted to do them immediately, and Mark expresses that like no other book. It just shows the Keeps the momentum going.
Speaker 1:He wrote in the sense of a momentum Keep that momentum rolling the whole time. There was no lull spots and everything. Alisa, did you have a comment?
Speaker 3:Yes, I did.
Speaker 2:Is this a dad joke?
Speaker 1:No, oh yeah, it is, oh, okay.
Speaker 2:I've got to get my brain in gear for a dad joke.
Speaker 1:Cause I have.
Speaker 2:We're getting close on dad jokes, but anyway, you have one right there, okay, While you're looking at it. Oh, you have it right now. Yes, okay, I'm ready. Okay, so I refuse to take a nap you do yeah, then I guess I'm resisting arrest okay, so your dad is a contractor, right he? Works with a work with an architect and an architect, you know what a protractor is. Yeah, okay, a protractor. You know, I put a pencil in and okay. So why do we only use protractors in geometry?
Speaker 3:Because they have all the angles.
Speaker 2:That's a good one, but it's really because amateur tractors aren't good enough.
Speaker 1:It's pretty good. You're pretty good with your little guesses there.
Speaker 2:Thank you, that's really good. They know all the angles.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, so anyway, that's one of the biggest things. And you, that's really good. They know all the angles, oh yeah, so, anyway, that's one of the biggest things, and we'll summarize Mark real fast and then we'll get into some dad jokes, because we're rolling at the end of the show.
Speaker 3:I have three. Yeah, you got a few. Oh my gosh, oh my goodness, I marked them.
Speaker 1:She prepared. You know she was proactive.
Speaker 3:She was proactive. Yes, good. You know and one of the things I get out of that is.
Speaker 1:You know, just think about how you handle your leadership. You know, even I procrastinate a lot of times because I am very much not a perfectionist. But there's some things that I am very much a perfectionist in, some things that I am very much a perfectionist in, so I will procrastinate and procrastinate and then just never get it done, because I want it to be perfect and I'm like I need that set up or this piece of equipment or this and and sometimes it's just a matter of doing it and we talk about this all the time is, you know, a lot of these influencers and stuff nowadays, I mean they don't have like big setups. I mean they're just walking around with their phone, talking to their phone, and a lot of times we just put too much merit in that and sometimes that momentum that moving forward is the biggest thing to get things done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and sometimes we've worked with people that always have to have more research or they have to do one more article, have one more day to do this or one more day to do that, and it's like, just make a decision. You know, we got to get this done. The deadline was last Friday, you know, and you've known that for two months, and so just get it done, let's get it done. Okay, sometimes we make decisions and we make wrong decisions, but at least let's make a decision and move forward. And then we realize, oh, that wasn't a good, okay, so how can we make it better?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so how can we make dad jokes better, guys?
Speaker 3:Yes, so, basically, instead of having some jokes that are dad jokes, they don't really have answers that make sense, like one I read was dad, I replaced all the junk food with tropical fruit. And I'm like like, no, you didn't. And then he said, well, then you're making a mango.
Speaker 1:Go crazy, that did not make sense to me yeah, not all dad jokes make sense and we talked about that right yeah, we got a.
Speaker 2:We got a call from the electric company the other day that told us that our bill was outstanding. I thought what a nice compliment.
Speaker 1:The bank's going to be sad after that.
Speaker 2:You know I told you we have a son and a daughter. So our daughter she didn't. When she was growing up she didn't think I gave her enough privacy. At least that's what she said in her diary.
Speaker 3:Oh, you did not.
Speaker 2:Oh, I got a good reaction out of you.
Speaker 3:At least I don't have one.
Speaker 2:You don't have a diary? Well, if you do, just hide it. Okay, that's just me.
Speaker 3:My brother's got a diary.
Speaker 2:Do you know how to sew? My mom, before I left home, my mom taught me a couple of things. One is to learn how to sew. You know the sewing machine, but sewing is not as easy as it seems.
Speaker 3:I know how to sew, you do.
Speaker 2:Yes, good for you.
Speaker 3:Now this one's for my dad. Dad, do you know what's the worst street to drive on?
Speaker 2:What? I didn't hear. The whole thing. What was the question?
Speaker 3:Dad, what is the worst street to drive on what?
Speaker 2:is the worst street to drive on. How about a one-way street?
Speaker 3:Nope, no, friggin' way Okay.
Speaker 1:Oh, all right, I have another.
Speaker 2:What do you call a dissatisfied insect?
Speaker 3:A cocoon.
Speaker 2:How about a grumblebee?
Speaker 1:I didn't get the box I didn't get the box either. We think we need that one. All right, one more. One more, lisa. One more, dr Dean.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 3:Why did the One more Lisa, one more, dr Dean? Okay, all right. Why did the snail paint an S?
Speaker 1:on his car. Why did the snail paint an S on his car?
Speaker 2:Any guesses? I know, I know why. Why? Because?
Speaker 3:it was an S cargo, no, but close. So his friends will say look, look at that S cargo.
Speaker 1:Oh close, very close, yeah, yeah, all right Dr.
Speaker 2:Dean, yeah, you know, when I was walking into the building today, oh yeah, I found a nickel on the ground. Oh, and I think I'm going to find a penny later. It's just my six cents.
Speaker 1:I knew where that one was going.
Speaker 3:That's six dollars, little penny.
Speaker 1:All right, okay, all right guys. Thank you for listening. Thank you, elisa, for co-hosting today. Yeah, thank you. Check us out. Biblicalleadershipshowcom. Biblicalleadershipshowcom. Let us know if you have any prayer requests, any special topics or anything that you want us to touch on, and we would love to hear from you. We have a lot of people reach out. Send us a text. You can reach out text. Email us that.
Speaker 1:Other than that I'm going to do a double takeout for the rest of the day. So let's start with Alisa, see if she remembers it, and then we'll follow up with Dr Posey. Make it a great day. Yes, make it a great day. All right, Thank you guys. Bye, Bye.
