The Biblical Leadership Show
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Welcome to The Biblical Leadership Show, your go-to resource for discovering timeless truths from Scripture that empower leaders to inspire, influence, and impact their world. Hosted by Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey, this podcast takes a deep dive into the Bible’s profound lessons on leadership, bringing fresh perspectives to timeless principles that resonate in today’s fast-paced, ever-changing world.
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The Biblical Leadership Show
Unpacking Luke: Leadership Wisdom from the Third Gospel
Dr. Posey opens his heart about his personal connection to the Gospel of Luke, sharing how a single verse—"nothing is impossible with God"—transformed his life's trajectory from aspiring physician to ministry leader. This vulnerable moment sets the stage for a fascinating exploration of Luke's unique perspective as both physician and Gentile writer, whose meticulous documentation gives us cherished stories like the Good Samaritan and Prodigal Son that wouldn't exist without him.
The conversation weaves through powerful leadership principles extracted from ancient text yet startlingly relevant to modern organizational challenges. When Joseph faced Mary's unexpected pregnancy, he chose to embrace rather than reject—modeling how exceptional leaders handle team members' mistakes with grace while maintaining accountability. This ties beautifully to the foundational concept that trust builds leadership credibility, summarized in Dr. Posey's axiom: "You have to earn the right to be heard."
Jesus' temptation narrative reveals another crucial insight—that leadership integrity faces constant testing, whether through cutting corners, prioritizing profit over quality, or presenting inauthentic versions of ourselves. The leadership application is profound: our identity as leaders must be firmly rooted in who we truly are rather than constantly trying to prove ourselves to others.
Perhaps most practically, we discover how Jesus built relationships with disciples before assigning them tasks—a sequence many leaders unfortunately reverse. This relationship-first approach creates the foundation for deeper team commitment and investment in shared goals. For today's organizations, this translates to encouraging not just financial contributions to causes but active service and volunteerism that builds team cohesion while making tangible differences in communities.
Have you examined how biblical principles might transform your leadership approach? Whether leading a corporation, small team, or family, these timeless insights offer a framework for leadership that builds trust, maintains integrity, and creates lasting impact beyond yourself.
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Speaker 2:My name is Mr Tim Lansford, and with me is the great, the infamous, the awesome, the Jesus is in the room, I guess there you go.
Speaker 3:There he is.
Speaker 2:He's in the studio today.
Speaker 1:Dr Posey, how you doing, tim Wonderful.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's fantastic. Yeah, that is.
Speaker 1:And then we have our Guest host. Guest host Hi, alisa Lansford.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, okay, so let's just start this off correctly, okay?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Did you hear that they arrested?
Speaker 1:We're just going straight in it.
Speaker 2:Did you hear? They arrested the Energizer Bunny. Have you seen those Energizer Bunny commercials on TV? They arrested the Energizer Bunny.
Speaker 3:No why?
Speaker 2:Yes, he was charged with battery.
Speaker 3:He does make lots of batteries.
Speaker 1:We're going straight into the joke. Well, if you're not familiar with the show and this is your first show well don't you know, we talk a little bit about the bible, we talk a little bit about leadership and we talk a lot about dad jokes we should have a dad jokes podcast. I say one, oh, do you have one real fast I do okay, well, you're not ready to say it I'm ready.
Speaker 2:I'm ready. I told you this one before the show. So while we're doing our show prep, here we go Are you ready for your Dr Posey first? Okay. So what did the mama cow say to the baby cow? I don't know. It's past your bedtime. Okay, we're ready.
Speaker 3:Okay, a turd walks into a bar and asks Is the bartender here?
Speaker 1:Because he's going to eat the bar isn't?
Speaker 3:he yeah, that's nice All right.
Speaker 1:Well, if you've been hanging out with us for a while, you should be, and hopefully you have been. We're on a big year-long series right now, where we wrapped up the Old Testament here a little month or so, a month and a half ago, and we're rolling into the New Testament now and we're rolling into the book of Luke.
Speaker 2:Today. Yeah, my favorite book of the Bible right there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, book of Luke. And it is and tell me why. I mean, I'm not, we're going to get into it, all that. But I mean, why is this your big favorite book overall? And then we'll go deep dive into it.
Speaker 2:Well, my favorite verse in the Bible is Luke 137, where the angel said to Mary nothing is impossible with God. And that's my favorite verse in the Bible. And then years ago, when I was at Baylor a pre-med student, chemistry major I was struggling. I didn't know whether I should go to medical school or not. I had wanted to be a doctor since I was like sixth grade, and now I'm a sophomore in college. I just finished organic chemistry and physics and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:I'm very involved in the church. So I'm trying to think do I really want to do that or not? And I never really thought about going into ministry as a vocation. Volunteering in the church, yes, but as a vocation. I didn't think about it until I was a sophomore and I was very involved in the church, and so I started praying about it. And one night I just prayed and I said a sophomore, and I was very involved in the church. And so I started praying about it. And one night I just prayed and I said God, I just need your help. I don't know what to do, I'm struggling. And this was about a six-week period of time of just praying. And one night I just opened the Bible and I tell people, do not do this, do not do it. But I did it, just opened the Bible and I tell people, do not do this, do not do it. But I did it. And I opened my Bible and just pointed to Luke 9, 62, which says he who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is not fit for the kingdom of God. So I just felt that God was telling me that he wanted me to plant the seed of the Word of God as a lifestyle, as a career, instead of going to medical school. So I changed my major from chemistry to religion, graduated from Baylor with a degree in religion, minor in chemistry, went to seminary instead of medical school, and so that, right, there was such a huge, obviously, impact, just changed the direction of my life and my focus and you know. So that's such a huge part of that Plus, in addition, I think the book of Luke has got some unique characteristics because Luke was not Jewish and he met Paul, or Paul met him on one of the missionary journeys and we actually see beginning in Luke chapter—well in Acts, he wrote the book of Acts, 2 in Acts, chapter 16, and we'll get more into this in a couple weeks when we talk about the book of Acts.
Speaker 2:But we actually see what's called the we passages in the book of Acts where Luke refers to it as the first person plural like we did this or we did. He's not just talking about Paul did this or they did that. He's talking about his own experience. So here was a person who didn't grow up as one of Jesus' disciples. He became a disciple of Jesus, do Paul's ministry, and yet he is traveling with Paul and he's writing from firsthand experience. And he was a physician. He was a brilliant man, incredible writer. Without him we wouldn't have the story of Jesus' birth in Luke, chapter 2. We wouldn't have stories like the Good Samaritan or the Prodigal Son, and so there's just so much rich history in Luke and the foundation of that and it's just incredible. It's just an incredible book and influenced my life a lot.
Speaker 1:So that's one reason you know, and then going to college I understand a lot more about your sermons now. So when you were given sermons, you always had great chemistry when you were on stage yeah, whoa whoa that's nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, whoa whoa that's nice. Yeah, that was smooth.
Speaker 1:That was really smooth, that was really smooth, and one thing about this is Luke has different ones, right, so he is involved in Acts. Is there a correlation on that and how does that work?
Speaker 2:Well, he wrote the book of Luke and Acts. Most scholars believe that he wrote both books and it was just like part one and part two. So if it hadn't been for the book of Acts, we wouldn't know so much about the early church, because it goes from the ascension of Jesus, which happened 40 days after the resurrection, and then it goes into the Pentecost story and outpouring of the Holy Spirit and the decisions of the early church we call it Jerusalem Council, the expansion of Christianity in that part of the world, and then Paul's missionary journey. We wouldn't have any of that if it hadn't been for Luke. And now, when we get to the book of Acts here in a couple weeks, we'll talk more about how that happened and how God used a disappointment in the life of Paul to bring about a real blessing to the kingdom. And so that's what we see and happened in Luke's life. And so, before we even get to that, for those of you who are listening and I understand that our audience is growing, which is fantastic.
Speaker 1:Please like, share and all that good stuff.
Speaker 2:So years ago, an incredible woman by the name of Taylor Caldwell wrote a book called Dear and Glorious Physician Okay. And so she did research with hundreds and hundreds of historical documents and books and she wrote a background story of like who is this Luke person that we don't know about? What's the backstory of Luke and did he meet Mary and how did he know about the birth story and all this kind of stuff? It is one of the most fascinating books other than the Bible that I've ever read. So if you're listening and you want an incredible read, I'd say it was probably historical fiction in that category, but she backs it up with so much research. It's incredible.
Speaker 1:And repeat it again.
Speaker 2:It's called Dear and Glorious Physician, the author Taylor Caldwell. You can buy it online Amazon, whatever and it is just a phenomenal read, and so I mean just encourage you. It's not a short book, but I couldn't put it down. I mean it was really, really good. So if you want a little backstory about Luke and some of the things the Bible doesn't tell us, I would encourage you to read that book. You will not regret it. It's just really, really good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right. What did you have a question about?
Speaker 3:What was Paul's disappointment?
Speaker 2:Well, we'll talk about that in a couple of weeks when we get to the book of Acts, because I don't want to get too far in advance and give away some of that. But, going on to what you were saying, god can use even our disappointments in our life, which we all have them at some level. God can use our disappointments to bring about good in our life and in the lives of others, and that's exactly what we see happening there in Acts, chapter 16. So anyway, that's enough. A little background about Luke.
Speaker 1:And that's great and one of the things that you know, these earlier chapters of the New Testament, they all overlap. We sort of touched on that a little bit last week, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we talked about the Synoptic Gospels, matthew, mark and Luke, very similar. And now what doesn't overlap is Luke, chapter 1, okay, that's the story of the birth of John the Baptist, zechariah and Elizabeth, the parents, and all of that story, and then the beginning of Luke, the birth of Jesus. Luke, chapter 2. We see some of that in Matthew with the wise men, but we don't see about the Bethlehem story and the angels and the shepherds and all of that kind of stuff in any other book except for Luke. And so then we get into that and we get into the temptation, and then Nazareth, and that's another thing that helped, I guess, shape my ministry was Luke, chapter 4. We'll get to that in just a minute. So, yeah, do you have anything.
Speaker 3:Okay, so the principle for God's sovereignty and faithfulness is that he fulfilled the promise in his own way and in his own timing.
Speaker 2:That is exactly right. God always does it in his own way and his own timing. That is exactly right. God always does it in his own way and his own timing. Now, sometimes we want to tell God what the timing he should do it and how he should do something, and that's pretty normal for us to do that. But God's going to do what's best for the most people and the time that he believes is the best for most people, and so that's part of faith. And you have to think about okay, if I could have knowledge about what God's going to do or if I'm going to have faith that I'm just going to believe that God's going to do the best, which one would I pick?
Speaker 2:I can tell you that most of us want the knowledge. We want to know what God's going to do, how he's going to do it, but God's going to choose faith. He's going to say you know, just trust me, Trust me, and I think that's what's a great message in the book of Luke is that the story of the birth of John the Baptist, the story of the birth of Jesus, it's all about the faithfulness of God and that God does what he needs to do at the right time and that we just need to trust His faithfulness, and so that's part of that. But let's tie that in. Let's cross that bridge into leadership, Because great leaders, the people trust them. This goes back to our very first podcast, podcast number one, which was like a year and a half ago Number one, yeah, and that was are you a person of your word?
Speaker 2:The people that you lead? That could be a scout troop, that could be an environmental group, it could be whatever a backpacking group, a softball team, it doesn't matter. Do people trust your word? And are you a person of your word, a man of your word, a woman of your word, or are you not? And people will know pretty quick whether or not you're going to do what you say you're going to do and what we read about in the Bible is that God was a God of His Word. He promised and then he fulfilled. Now, sometimes the fulfillment is a long time after the promise, but the promise actually got fulfilled, and that's what we see in the first few chapters of the book of Luke is the promise of John the Baptist coming preparing the way we see the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem, you know, as the Messiah. So those were promises that were made hundreds of years before. Now they're being fulfilled, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I like the way it's. This book is you know, starts out, because I think Luke's creating trust right he's. He's building the trust before he tells the story, and I think that's what the backstory a lot of times. People want to know the backstory. They want to know your backstory as a leader. They want to know where you're, where you come from, what's your thoughts, what's your. Do I sync with you as a leader before I, even you know, join the company? A lot of times, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So that is so true. It's like you've got to build that relationship. You know, I know ministry is built on relationship, but so is business. You know you've got to. Your people have to trust you, they have to know you, they have to know your heart, they have to know your priorities, and if they don't know that, it's going to be a real challenge, especially with your team. It's going to be hard to lead people that don't trust you.
Speaker 2:And I learned a long time ago, when I was a teenager, involved in a ministry called Young Life, that a principle that I still remember to today, and that is you have to earn the right to be heard. And so in different businesses, it takes a while to earn that right. But it's like what am I doing to earn that right to be heard for a new employee or employees? That if I'm new to the job, what am I doing to earn that right? And I think what? Let's tie that into Luke, since Luke was a travel companion of Paul and Paul had such a such reputation so that if Paul would endorse Luke, then Luke would have earned the right to be heard. And so it's like that's important for the people that we're around the company that we keep. It just says a lot about our character, and so what a great leadership principle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely as far as a leader. Elisa, how would you build trust with some of your classmates, some of your people that you do build trust?
Speaker 3:with some of your, your classmates, some of your people that you do. How do you build trust? Okay, so, everybody in the class, I'm really good friends with everybody, but I'm also I don't call them names. I mean they call me names but I ignore it because somehow they found a way time. But I'd be nice to them and I don't try to get back at them. I'm a lot, I'm friends with a lot of people, but see, we have fun at recess and what we don't do is how I build trust is. I don't like ask for anything outrageous. I don't ask for favors too much. If they don't know me very well, I'll say hi, introduce myself, talk to them over the day and they can decide whether they trust me or not?
Speaker 3:I don't force it onto them.
Speaker 1:Right, fair, fair, that's good, yeah, and sometimes it takes.
Speaker 2:Sometimes trust can be built pretty quick with some people and other times it takes a long time to build trust and we don't know why. It just does sometimes. But we just have to keep trying and doing what you said Treat people nicely and don't talk down about people, and that's just a real good leadership principle.
Speaker 1:Right, yes.
Speaker 3:Jesus actually shows team development in the Bible from Luke 5, 1 to 11 and 6, 12 to 16.
Speaker 1:Got her doing her show prep right. Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 3:So he calls on his disciples and chooses 12. Kind of like if you're hiring for a job, you would have to choose the best people and see. The insight for this is he selects his team and he invests in them, and then he multiplies the intact.
Speaker 2:That's it, that's good, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2:All right I like it, but let's just talk about that passage, because there in the book of Mark and also in other places, we see that it says Jesus called them to be with him and send them out. So in other words, if we read that correctly which I think we should Jesus called them to have a relationship first, before he asked them to do something. And so many times leaders make the mistake of not building the relationship with their team. They just want to assign them a job and they don't prioritize the relationship. So I think good leaders follow that example of Jesus, where he built the relationship with his followers, with his team, and then he asked them to do something. He was training them along because he was kind of like the role model and so, but he built the relationship, you know, mentored them and then sent them out to do something. And so that sequence, I think, is still valid for today. Right yeah.
Speaker 1:And then one of the things we roll into you know the verses that she talked about, you know two on, you know into five and stuff, and it's you know. One of the things that I saw in there that really stood out is when Zachariah he doubted and then he was made mute. Yes, Right. That really stood out, as I was like I didn't remember that until I was doing the pre-show and everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he was praying, he and his wife were praying for a child and the angel comes and says, hey, your prayer's going to be answered. And he goes. What?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't believe you I don't believe you, Okay well believe this.
Speaker 2:And he was mute until his son was born and then even after that.
Speaker 1:That was John the.
Speaker 2:Baptist, john the Baptist, an incredible individual, very bold individual. And then, as they were naming the child, the people said no, he needs to be Zechariah. Just after his father he said no, he said I need a writing tablet. You know, he writes it down, his name is John and boom, he starts talking again and it's like oh, my goodness, wow, that would have been phenomenal.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:Bro, really said shh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did, he really did yeah.
Speaker 2:He really did.
Speaker 1:That's. That's one of the things you, even the you know most faithful, can struggle sometimes. You know sort of where the principle I got out of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so one of the most incredible prayers or hymns of the Scripture is there, from Mary in Luke, chapter 1, and also John the Baptist's father was saying a prayer there in Luke. I mean Luke, chapter 1. So those things are just have gone down through history as just some of the most phenomenal prayer praises of God. So then we have, you know, chapter one. Then we go to chapter two and just think about Joseph, you know, not married to Mary, Mary's pregnant. He doesn't divorce her.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:You know which? Here's the thing. It's like how do we handle difficulties in our business and as a leader, how do we handle them? Do we deny them? Do we try to just not answer the question? Do we not address them? Joseph's like no, we're going to dress this head on. This is someone I'm committed to. She's going to be my bride. This might be an embarrassment, but I'm going to embrace her and we're moving forward. And so the question is okay, if one of your team members makes a mistake, how do you handle it? But sometimes you need to let them go right. But other times it's like can we learn from this? Can we as a team learn from this so that we as a team can be better? And that's a really tough decision, but it's an important thing because it happens all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it does, and you know he, yeah, it does so, and you know he was a good man you know he was because, I mean, most people at that point would have uh not believed that adios. Yeah, it's like no, I don't think so yeah.
Speaker 2:so here, here's the thing I I printed off some things like um minds, nine mindsets of successful people, and one of them is you fix problems and don't complain about them. And so Joseph didn't see that necessarily as a problem. He saw it as an opportunity, because he had a dream from God and he said okay, this opportunity for me to step up and be the earthly father of the Son of God, wow.
Speaker 2:Wow, what a role I mean it's like how am I going to do this Step up? He didn't feel he was prepared, but God felt he was prepared.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And so the question is, as a leader, do we see potential in our people when they don't see potential in themselves, and do we give them an opportunity, or do we just hold them back? Are we always looking for? Oh my gosh, as someone taught me a language term years ago do the employees we have have added value years ago, do the employees we have have added value? So it's something that's not on their resume, but they can add value to the company or to the team or whatever, because of their experience. Maybe they speak more than one language, maybe they're an artist, maybe they play a musical instrument or they're creative, maybe they love to work for Habitat, maybe they play softball and we have a softball team. So I mean, what is it that your team members have that can add added value to the team or the company?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2:So we go from chapter 2, then we have chapter 3, and then we have chapter 4. Chapter 4, jesus goes into the wilderness and is tempted. He's tempted by the devil for 40 days and 40 nights and he doesn't eat to do something. Are we tempted to cut corners? You know, is profit, are we tempted to have profit more than quality? I mean, everybody owns a business has got to deal with some of those temptations.
Speaker 2:You know, I know, as a contractor, I mean, you've been building Cups and Homes for a long, like 30 years, and it would be so tempting to say, you know what, I'm just going to use cheap labor, cheap lumber, cheap, this, cheap, that. And it's like, no, I'm not going to do that. You could do it. And the temptation would be I can, I can, it's the, the homeowner's not going to know it, um, and I'll just go on and they can deal with it later. Um, but it's like no, I I'm, I'm not going to do that, you know Right. So, um, so any other kind of temptations that that your business, I mean you deal with this, or know other people that deal with this stuff all the time. Can you kind of share some, some um, insights?
Speaker 2:into that I mean.
Speaker 1:I think that there's there's ebbs and full, you know, you know ups and downs when it comes to business and I think, uh, the biggest temptation and I'm talking to a couple of people right now that you know, cause I do a lot of coaching and um, they're going through like major burnout right. So when you go through burnout, you have this temptation to revamp, to redo to. I got to do things different, which I believe has to happen if you get to the burnout stage, but at the same time, what you have to do and working through them is they have to analyze you know, not redo your whole company, your whole system, everybody that works for you and all that. Figure out what the thorns are. I always call them thorns. What's the thorns? They're causing this burnout Because if we can figure out the thorns, not everything's broken.
Speaker 1:You built the systems, you built this platform. What you got to do is figure out what's causing the burnout and I'm walking through a couple of people right now just through that and we figured out, sort of what their burnout, what their thorns are. I said now, how do we go backwards and remove these thorns and revamp the whole process? You know, as far as filling in the thorn process. But a lot of times I think the temptation comes from everybody. Just they just want to just jump ship and I was like a lot of times that it's not the proper way to do it?
Speaker 2:That's not the answer. Yeah, so evaluate and retool, refigure out, and then what you just said, what you didn't say but you implied, is, sometimes you need help. Yeah, you know, even in the Bible it says the angels came and ministered to Jesus.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, during that time, and he realized I need some help getting through this. And, yes, I have my father, but the angels came and ministered to him and so sometimes we just need that help and we got to humble ourself and realize. You know what. I just need some help getting over the hump.
Speaker 1:And I'm sure I mean you're the biggest giving advice over 40, you know 70, 80 years that you've been a minister right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 82.
Speaker 1:And you know, I'm sure the stories that you have and all that stuff you know of counseling, helping people through times and tribulations and stuff that they've had, is just amazing. You could write a very large book if you wanted to on just how much you've helped people.
Speaker 2:Well, and here's the thing when people go through some difficult times in their life okay, like losing a spouse, okay, I think some of the best advice I could give is don't try to make too many decisions too quickly.
Speaker 2:And when you're in a deep place, a dark place, sometimes we try to get out too quickly and I know it's difficult. I haven't lost a spouse, but I've had some difficult times in life and you're in a dark place and you want to try to fix it and sometimes things can get fixed, but it's not going to be like a snap of the finger and it fixes and things magically change overnight. And what you're saying and I think it's so true is sometimes you need someone to help walk with you through that dark time. And so if you're struggling as a leader right now, I'd reach out to this brother Tim, contact him through our website. You know he coaches people all over the country. Um, I'm available to talk or email, whatever. Uh, if you're in a dark place and you need some help, someone to walk with you through that right now, uh, just reach out to us. We'd be more than glad to help. You know, whatever that may be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, and Miss Elisa you're going to be a good coach one day too, so you're a good listener.
Speaker 3:So, on the topic of like temptation, right. So I found this quote in the Bible, and it's in Luke 4.3, and it is If you are the Son of God and the devil says this If you are the Son of God, turn the stone into bread. But the principle is, and the leadership insight is, that great leaders are rooted in identity, but they're not driven to prove themselves to people, they're driven by their identity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, some deep thoughts, very deep thoughts.
Speaker 3:But sometimes the principle is temptation often begins by questioning your identity or your legitimacy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3:That's good, that's good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of times you don't have to prove yourself. You know, if you know you're a strong leader, if you know that you, you have strong beliefs, I don't have to go around and, and you know, pray every time and be open and stand up on a table and do this prayer and blessing, because I know who I am a lot of times and we have different stories on that but a lot of times people and those are always the people, and I have no problem with prayer but sometimes the people that are just over the top and I'm like, are you true? Cause, and I have no problem with prayer, but sometimes the people that are just over the top and I'm like, are you true? And I can say that because the boss that I work with, you know and I quit the job a long time ago Posey and talked to it because he used that as his veil. He wasn't this big Christian that he put on, so he had this outgoing image.
Speaker 1:But I mean everybody could see that that was really a false, you know. And so I mean I don't know. It's just there's different things that look at her. You know, exactly right.
Speaker 2:And so let me just finish. So, after the temptation of Jesus in the first part of chapter 4, then the second part of chapter 4, he goes to his hometown, which is where he grew up. He goes into the synagogue, he reads from the scroll of Isaiah, and so when I was in seminary I had a job at a church in Atlanta. Because I went to Emory University, I had a job there at a church. I was a youth director and I had never been on a mission trip. I'd heard about missionaries, heard about supporting missionaries, but I myself had never been on a mission trip. And one of the men in our church, who was also one of the professors at the seminary, was involved in what's called the Appalachia Service Project, where you would go up into Kentucky, north Carolina, and we'd actually do home repair for people. And so that was my very first mission trip and the very first night we got there, the leader I don't remember his name, but he quoted from Luke, chapter 4, in verse 18 and 19, where the Spirit of the Lord is upon me, you know should anoint me to preach good news to the poor and release of the captives and recovery of sight to the blind. That just hit me like a brick. That just hit me like a brick in realizing that, you know, as a Christian, we're not just called to send our money, we're not just called to pray even though that's a very good thing we're actually called to do. And so that really shaped my ministry, that we want to actually volunteer where we send our money. And so I had never thought about that before, I'd never really that light bulb turned on. It's like, oh, my goodness, and it literally shaped the rest of my ministry for 45 years, that we want people involved in helping others, not just sending money, so other people can do it.
Speaker 2:And so I would say, as a leadership principle your company, your team, whatever it may be, what are you doing to help those outside of your organization? It could be a business, you could be a bakery, you could be electrical company, whatever. Are you sending money, which is great, but are you also allowing company whatever Are you sending money, which is great, but are you also allowing your people to go volunteer, saying, hey, we're doing a volunteer day, we're going to help, like in Fort Worth they have a Clean Up the Trinity River project, we're going to go down for a day or we're going to do a Habitat for Humanity build or we're going to help the Dallas Zoo, do something. Are you encouraging your people to do volunteering their time, not just sending a check from the company? And by doing that it really does bond people together, the synergy about that. There's something they can talk about for a long time. It just really adds life to the organization.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to encourage you, if you're a leader and just be thinking about what can we do outside of work, give the people maybe a half day off or a day off and say, hey, if you do this, then you're going to get a comp day, or you're going to get this, or you know, whatever it may be to. You know, but you will be amazed at how many people want to do that. And so, you know, represent your company out in the community. I'd encourage you to do it.
Speaker 1:So we're rolling down to the end of the podcast here, but there's two more things I want to go over on week four to end here. I like that Jesus' mission statement come out of four. The spirit of the Lord is upon me. I thought that Jesus' mission statement came out of the four. The Spirit of the Lord is upon me. I thought that was a good way to look at it. But I really wanted to touch base on get your thoughts that Nazareth, when he was in his hometown, tried to throw him off a cliff. What was?
Speaker 2:this about. That's a long explanation, but basically in the synagogue there was a chair called the Messiah chair that no one sat in, but it says that when Jesus finished reading he sat down. Well, he sat down in the Messiah chair.
Speaker 2:So, he was basically declaring himself as the Messiah and they were thinking, no, there's no way you can do that. So he was saying things even at an early age to give the message that I am the Son of God, I am the Messiah, I am the one you've been praying about and hoping for all these years. And they're thinking, no, you're just a carpenter's son, you know, there's no way you could be the Messiah. And so we see several times in the Scripture, especially in the book of John, that people tried to stone Jesus and it says, no, he slipped through their midst because it was not his time. And so they just even the people that knew him growing up, they just did not believe that he was who he said he was, and he struggled that his whole ministry. But you know, we can thank God that he did have some people who believed in him and followed him. Yeah, and just a phenomenal, you know legacy that they left behind. It was awesome, yeah, so we got through chapter four.
Speaker 1:Chapter four Well, you know that's what we do. Yeah, so we got through chapter four. Chapter four Well, that's what we do.
Speaker 2:Yes, and so we got to shift to do some dad jokes before we're off the air today. Yeah, okay, did you hear about the guy that evaporated?
Speaker 3:No, I didn't.
Speaker 2:He'll be missed.
Speaker 3:I have a pick one question.
Speaker 2:You have a question. Yeah, okay, is this a dad joke question? You have a question?
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, is this a dad joke question?
Speaker 2:It's more of a pick one. A pick one, okay, like what's more important? Chocolate or vanilla? Yeah, chocolate, always no.
Speaker 3:Chocolate, always Strawberry is the best. Oh, so this one I don't know how y'all are going to answer it this one just choose whatever would look best according to y'all are going to answer this one Just choose whatever would look best according to y'all. I prefer hoops on this one, but earrings.
Speaker 2:Oh, earrings For my wife hoops for sure, because studs she already has a stud.
Speaker 3:I prefer hoops.
Speaker 2:You prefer hoops.
Speaker 1:That's great. Oh, I turned the crickets off.
Speaker 3:What do you prefer, Dad?
Speaker 1:Me. Yeah, I like studs a lot of times but I like hoops, but a big diamond stud. That's pretty cool. All right, dr Percy. What other?
Speaker 2:I've got one last one. I've got one last one, I've got one last one. Each of you got one, you know the older I get, the more I think about the people I've lost along the way.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Maybe a career as a tour guide was a bad choice. Okay, this will be the last one, except for the one I have or your dad has. Okay, fair, fair, okay.
Speaker 3:Dad, I want a sci-fi theme for my birthday. Okay, let's plan it.
Speaker 1:I like it.
Speaker 2:Okay, this is good. You know what your dad has a little beard. I used to hate facial hair and then it grew on me.
Speaker 1:All righty, let's get out of here, okay, hey, thank you guys for listening to us. Check us out biblicalleadershipshowcom and of all this stuff that we talked about on the you know missions and all the stories, just special prayers for the flooding victims last weekend in Texas and all that stuff so it was horrible so special prayers to their family members and all that.
Speaker 1:but other than that, check us out biblicalleadershipshowcom, and we'll let Dr Posey take us out with. Make it a great day. What do you say? I said make it a great day Alrighty, thank you guys.
Speaker 3:Have a great day. Bye.
