The Biblical Leadership Show
Inspiration. Wisdom. Leadership from a Higher Perspective.
Welcome to The Biblical Leadership Show, your go-to resource for discovering timeless truths from Scripture that empower leaders to inspire, influence, and impact their world. Hosted by Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey, this podcast takes a deep dive into the Bible’s profound lessons on leadership, bringing fresh perspectives to timeless principles that resonate in today’s fast-paced, ever-changing world.
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- Powerful Biblical Insights: We explore the leadership styles of biblical figures like Moses, Esther, David, and Jesus, extracting practical strategies for overcoming challenges, building trust, and creating lasting impact.
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The Biblical Leadership Show
Discipleship and Leadership in Luke's Gospel
What makes a great leader? Beyond hiring the right people, beyond strategic planning, beyond even having a compelling vision—it's creating a culture that transforms those within it. In this illuminating episode, we dive deep into the leadership principles revealed in Luke's Gospel as Jesus calls his first disciples and builds a movement that would ultimately change the world.
We explore the counterintuitive power of face-to-face connection in our digital age. While AI-driven interviews and social media profiles offer efficiency, they miss the crucial elements of character and cultural fit that only personal interaction can reveal. "Tell me something about yourself that's not on your resume" might be the most important question a leader can ask when building their team.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn as we examine how Jesus maintained engagement through purposeful unpredictability. From raising a widow's son to calming storms, His pattern-breaking approach kept followers learning and growing. We discuss practical applications for modern leadership: changing meeting formats, celebrating achievements, implementing team lunches across departments, and other simple yet effective ways to prevent the disengagement that routine inevitably brings.
Perhaps most powerful is our examination of the Good Samaritan parable—found only in Luke's Gospel—and how it established a culture of compassion that transcended ethnic boundaries. This storytelling approach to values-setting offers leaders a blueprint for cultural transformation more effective than any policy manual.
Whether you're leading a religious organization, business enterprise, or community initiative, these timeless principles provide the foundation for leadership that outlasts your presence. After all, the true measure of your leadership isn't what happens when you're in the room—it's the culture that continues when you're gone.
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Speaker 2:Welcome to the Biblical Leadership Show.
Speaker 1:His name is Dr.
Speaker 2:Posey.
Speaker 1:My name is Tim Lansford. We're glad to be here with you today. We are so glad that you're here, middle of July, warm out there.
Speaker 2:It is warm.
Speaker 1:It is, but that's all right, we like it, you out running marathons again. No, no, but I's all right, we like it, you out running marathons again?
Speaker 2:No, no, but I don't have a triathlon on the calendar, but I am training. So you know, go to the gym, lift some weights, go swim.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:You know probably well this morning 1,000 meters, which is not that much, that's not bad. You know, it's not bad, it's. I'm just kind of getting back into it and kind of getting in shape and, oh my, they're done 99 meters more than I want to go. So and uh and so uh, my, our daughter and her boyfriend gave me an incredible gift for father's day last month oh really and these are goggles swim goggles that have an led screen in them.
Speaker 2:What? And you can actually. It actually records your distance, so I don't have to count laps anymore. It is absolutely phenomenal. How cool is that it is so cool I call myself the frog man now.
Speaker 2:Anyway, they're just regular goggles and they have this little button, two buttons on the side and one's on off button and one you can switch the distance of the pool or you can do open water swim. So the pool I swim is 25 meters, so you switch to that, you turn it on and then I have no idea how it does it, but there is a little LED screen. It's green on the right side, and every time you flip to go the opposite direction it records 25 meters. So I used to have to count. You know was that?
Speaker 1:36, or was that 32? Yeah, it all jacked up right. It's like no, that's 50.
Speaker 2:Two, what, yeah? And so now I can just focus on my breathing, on my strokes. You know my form.
Speaker 1:I did not know those existed. That's pretty good.
Speaker 2:I was like in shock. And it syncs to my Garmin watch and so it just all syncs together and it is really, really amazing. It is amazing and so it's like I don't even know who invented stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Right, but they're brilliant yeah it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know how it works, but it works really well. And you have to charge it up, you know, and all that stuff, but it is and it's so clear. I wonder if a GPS is on the open water or something like that. I think it does, because, yeah, because it'll do open water swims, so you'll know okay, no, you still have a half a mile to go.
Speaker 1:Could be good and bad yeah could be good.
Speaker 2:It could be good and bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it could be good oh.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's so good, but I'm enjoying that and cycling. You know, with all the rain we've had, it's been hard to cycle outdoors, so I have a cycle thing in my garage in case it's raining.
Speaker 1:Nice, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm good. What about you?
Speaker 1:Just the same working out. You know you're going to have your health and all that stuff and and uh been traveling here and there and got one more trip coming up, uh, here in a couple of days. So, uh, then I'll kick back for a couple of weeks, I think, and then it's been pretty busy last couple of months.
Speaker 2:And your birthday is like two weeks from today.
Speaker 1:Oh my week from the day today.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right A week from today.
Speaker 1:A week from today.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:Be out here and hanging out and singing happy birthday.
Speaker 2:Well, that'll be good.
Speaker 1:We'll sing happy birthday to you next week in the show. I'll have to get a cake we should get a cake.
Speaker 2:What's your favorite cake? German chocolate, not.
Speaker 1:German chocolate, but anything chocolate, Anything chocolate like chocolate. Chocolate, yeah, Do you like those? Nothing. Bundt cakes yes. Anything, Anything chocolate is good. And it's funny. You mentioned that. I promised a girl I teach a class and I promised her it's her birthday the day of my class, so I promised her I'd bring her a cake. So I've got to go get a cake. What's your favorite cake? I don't know. I just said I'm going to get you a cake.
Speaker 2:So I promised her I'd bring her a cake. So I've got to go get a cake. What's your favorite?
Speaker 1:cake? I don't know. I just said I'm going to get you a cake, but I'm going to get her a white cake. I think that one of her friends said that she likes white cakes. She's in one of my leadership classes and I was like oh my gosh, it's your birthday, so I have to go get a cake before I teach tomorrow. Yeah, so that'll be good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely so chocolate, yeah, anything, anything you can bring me chocolate chip. Cookies to chocolate cupcakes to you like red velvet, that's red chocolate I like.
Speaker 1:I like red chocolate you know red velvet. I like everything.
Speaker 2:Just you can't go wrong with anything you can't go wrong with, and I like german chocolate, it's just it's.
Speaker 1:I like chocolate, chocolate, you know, dark chocolate's my, my dark chocolate is it's I like chocolate, chocolate.
Speaker 2:You know, dark chocolates, my, my dark chocolate is yeah, yeah. So like dove chocolate.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh my, that would be great.
Speaker 1:Lindors and stuff. Oh, get the the true dark ones and stuff.
Speaker 2:So is that a healthy fat? Is that?
Speaker 1:a healthy fat. Right, I was just telling Dr Posey I'm checking out, tracking all my macros and all that stuff, getting a little bit tighter on the diet and stuff. So yeah, I don't know where the sugar falls into the fats and carbs and protein, but we'll make a category for my birthday that day.
Speaker 2:We will. We're just going to like boom there, it is there we go Okay, we will, we're just gonna like boom, there, it is there, you go okay, maybe just put we can.
Speaker 1:We can get some icing and write carbs on the cake. It says it's carbs.
Speaker 2:Oh, healthy, fat, healthy fat, emotionally healthy fat, exactly. Oh, all right. So you know, when I was on my way to the studio today, I actually had to stop by the guitar store to get some picks for my, because I'm trying to get back into playing guitar Nice, I needed some more picks, and so, but there was this. They always have. I always like to look at the used equipment, okay, because some people trade in their guitars or they inherit something. They sell it. So there was a really great deal on a guitar. It was kind of a little broken, needs some help, but it was a great deal because it came with no strings attached.
Speaker 1:I was watching crazy enough watching the Antique Roadshow last night and her dad, back in the 50s had bought her this violin and he paid $600 for a violin back in the fifties, had bought her this violin and he paid $600 for a violin back in the fifties and uh, she goes. I knew it was a lot of money, cause I mean cars were costing $3,000, you know, and and you know, or fifties, you know, sixties, wherever it was, and um and uh. But yeah, he said well, it was a German thing, and so on and so forth. It was really worn down, everything. She still plays it to this day, but yeah, it's up to like $20,000, $25,000 now. So she felt that was a good investment for her dad. Dad would be proud at that point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you dad, thank you dad. Yeah, it was pretty crazy. Well, we can get into our topic today. So last week we started the book of Luke and we were hoping to get through chapter 9, 10.
Speaker 1:We got through chapter 4. It's just the way we do things around here, but you know, it's okay right, and one of the reasons is and if you listened to the show last week, if not, shame on you, but go back and listen to it. This is Dr Posey's favorite chapter, favorite book.
Speaker 2:Favorite book, I'm sorry, favorite book.
Speaker 1:And there's a lot of lessons here and we've talked about it. There's a lot of overlap on these first two or three books really, but this one really spoke to you. It got you into ministry, it took you down a different path in life and it was pretty awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, chapter four really shaped ministry for me as far as mission and being involved in the community, and still affects me to this day and so, yeah, it's a very impactful book for my life. Very impactful book for my life and it's been very good. I never tire of talking about the book of Luke, and so we're going to get into that. We're going to start with chapter five today.
Speaker 1:Chapter five and hopefully we'll get through chapter six. No promises where we get to, we have no promises in this show, other than we're going to talk about Bible and leadership and throw some dad jokes in for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we could talk about it because you know it's been hot. We've had a lot of rain, but it's been hot in July, which is typical in Texas, typical and so we have this little space in our backyard that I'm just thinking. You know I need to plant an herb garden. Yeah, yeah, it's about time.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I was trying to figure out which one to go with I like it Okay.
Speaker 2:So Luke, chapter 5. You know, so he, jesus, has the temptations. He comes out of the temptations. Then he goes to the city of Nazareth, where he grew up, and he goes to the synagogue and the people try to throw him off the hill.
Speaker 1:Right, some of that right.
Speaker 2:And then we get to chapter 5, when he calls his first disciples and so just thinking about, how do you pick your team? Yeah, you know, and what a great leadership principle that we see here in Luke, chapter 5, because Jesus was walking along the lake. He sees these people and they're fishermen and they're washing their nets and he calls to them and they begin to follow him. And so the question is, when you're looking for a new team member, okay, how do you do that? There's so many social media options now you know. There's so many websites you can go to to look, and I don't know how you do it. I've interviewed people online. I've talked to people on the phone, I've seen their resumes, but I don't ever like to hire somebody until I see them face to face.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm a face to face guy. That's just our generation. We like to shake your hand, see you in person. I mean, I'll drive clear across town to have a conversation the last five minutes, other than picking up the phone, because that's my thing. I want to see the body language. I want to see the micro expressions. You're putting off everything about it. That's just one of the things. Plus, I want to get a feeling of who you are as a person more than just talking on my phone. But yeah, I think that dials back a lot, you know, as far as personalities and where we would go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so just think about that With modern technology now, you can get to know a lot of the people. Where you look on the social media feed, whatever it may be Instagram, twitter you know Facebook. Whatever you look on all of that, you get their resume, you do all the research and so you pretty much know their qualifications or their experience, their background, their training. But you don't know the character.
Speaker 2:You don't know how are they going to relate to your other team members. And just say, for example, maybe you're the very first, you just started your business, maybe just you and your spouse, or you and a friend, and you're getting ready to hire another person. Just say it's you and another person and you're getting ready to hire a third person. Just think that person is one third of your company. That person is going to be extremely important as to do they get along with other people. So the question is how can you just do that without just online? I know a lot of that happens in big companies. They do it that way.
Speaker 2:I just think Jesus didn't obviously have that. He wanted to actually meet the people. He saw them as fishermen, he saw them as hard workers and he said hey, I want you now to be fishing for people and I'm going to teach you how to do that, but you need to follow along. So he invited them to come along and he invested his life into them. But I still am old school when it comes to hiring people, and I know you are too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's done a lot nowadays and the technology has come a long ways with AI. Ai can give you a full report after you talk to somebody. It'll record the whole conversation. It'll tell you all their body language, tell you if they thought it was lying. It talks about every little misstep in their thing. It'll tell you everything about them after an interview online. If you take a Zoom and you add on AI, it's amazing some of the softwares that they have in place when they're doing online interviews. But you know it's getting to feel and you bring up a good point and I think that you know way back.
Speaker 1:I haven't worked for people for many, many years. Right, we'll just say that. But back when I very first started the job market and everything I would, I would be the point where I would. I would go through the process of interviewing with the the who was hiring me.
Speaker 1:But it was my for sure that I always had asked can I go talk to some of the other managers? And they would look at me like why? And I'm like I just like to get to know a few people. And then I would actually ask can I go wander around with somebody and talk to a couple of your employees and I know that nobody else was doing that right, because that was not cool. But at the same time I want to make sure that I fit in with the thing, because when you're interviewing you can sell me on oh this is the great culture and all that. But until I see it, until I feel it, until I talk to some other people and see how they react, then I had a good feeling. If it was someplace that I wanted to work, let alone if I was a manager hiring somebody, I think that would be a great thing. I'd want them to know if they fit in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so just about two or three days ago I was talking to a rather let's just say a new person into the ministry. He just graduated from school, he is working in church now part-time. He has another full-time job, but he has an opportunity to go to a bigger church and be like the head person. So he called me and asked me for some advice as to what he should do, what kind of questions he should ask. So we had a really good conversation about that and I said here's the thing I want you to think about when you get to the interview process. I said you have to remember they're not just interviewing you, you are interviewing them.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, so the question is do you see yourself? They might see you as the person they want, but the question is do you see yourself in that role? And I said and so you have to decide on the interview process. And I said this would be let's rank the order of questions. I said, before you ask a question about the church, about ministry, about Sunday morning, I said why don't you ask them questions about themselves?
Speaker 2:Just, to get to know and take a pad of paper and write down their names oh Mike, or hey Sally or whatever their name is and just write their names oh, mike or hey Sally or whatever their name is and just write, take notes. I said because they want to know if you care about them, not just you care about the organization. And so the question I would have if you're a boss you know the question. I know legally you can't answer, you can't ask certain questions, okay, but I always like to say this, I always like to say this one question at the very beginning Tell me something about yourself that's not on your resume and that's just an open-ended question.
Speaker 2:We get to talking about whatever. They might like to skeet shoot, they might like to golf, they might like to whatever you know backpack. They might like to travel I. They might like to golf, they might like to whatever you know backpack. They might like to travel. I don't know what it is, but I want to know something about the person, because then that gives me an idea. Can they get along with other people in the organization?
Speaker 1:Do you like to skeet shoot?
Speaker 2:Yes, but I haven't done it in a long time Okay, just checking. Yeah, I do. I mean we got to go ask the growing student. I definitely go skeet shoot. I haven't done that in a long time. I'm not that good, but I sure like it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I haven't done it that much. I actually had a trap and skeet range and a pistol range on my college campus. It was pretty crazy times, you know, just keep on. Anyway, that's a whole different story.
Speaker 2:When we first got married, when we first moved to Texas, yeah, I had a. Really I'm left-handed, so I had a Ithaca 37 featherlight gun. Because the reason I had that is because it ejected the shell. It was a shotgun, Ejected the shells out of the bottom. And for a left-handed shooter. You don't want the shell, you know, ejecting across your face. So it ejected the shell out the bottom and I think I never had a problem.
Speaker 1:No, never thought about right.
Speaker 2:And um, and I would load my own shells there was this there was a shooting range out not too far from where we live and I would spend a lot of time out there. I just really, really enjoyed it. And, uh, when our son was born kind of got out of that, but I always enjoy it, I've always enjoyed it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anyway, that's good to know.
Speaker 2:So that has nothing to do with the podcast, but I'm getting to know you Apparently.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that you mentioned that I'm like why would he mention that?
Speaker 2:I don't know he might like that, Just random.
Speaker 1:Because everything on your list, backpacking, parked and everything. You went through a list of everything that you like and I was like the ski threw me off.
Speaker 2:That's why it wouldn't happen. Maybe I should have said skiing it just threw me off.
Speaker 1:I was like, does he really like that? He mentioned everything and I just didn't know that fact about him.
Speaker 2:So all right, good to know. Okay, so here we go back to Luke. Okay, so he calls his disciples, they begin to—he begins to get a following, and then, really, chapter 5, 6, 7, 8, it really goes into parables. You have the Sermon on the Plain, some teachings, some miracles, I mean just like one right after another.
Speaker 1:Well, let's talk about Sermon on the Plain. Some teachings, some miracles, I mean, just like one right after another. Well, let's talk about Sermon on the Plain, because I mean, that was one I mentioned to you that I was not familiar with and I didn't know what Sermon on the Plain was, and I guess I've just been, didn't show up to church that day or something. If you didn't know, been, didn't show up to church that day or something.
Speaker 2:If you didn't know.
Speaker 1:Dr Posey used to be my minister for many years, so it was sort of like guilty conscience saying I really didn't know what that was.
Speaker 2:Well, it's basically Luke's version of the Sermon on the Mount. So a lot of the same parable teachings there in Luke that we see in Matthew. But it wasn't like in the book of Matthew. It says he went up on the mountain and sat down and began to speak. Here he's just on a plane, so it's called the Sermon on the Plane. Basically it that's it.
Speaker 2:But you get, you know, when you go to Luke, chapter 6, beginning with 20, you see the Beatitudes and some of those are like word for word. Some of them are a little different, but the principle is the same. It's the teachings of Jesus about how to live a godly life and how to follow God. Okay, so that's what Jesus is all about. And so we see that in chapter 6. There's a lot of that in chapter 6. And some of them are word for word from Matthew and some of them are not.
Speaker 2:And then we get into chapter 7 and there's some healings, and there's some healings. And then there's a miracle about the son of a woman from the widow, from Nain, and that's only in the Book of Luke. Okay, and what is that about? And so this is this woman who she's a widow and her only son dies. She's a widow and her only son dies, and so they're carrying him out in a funeral procession out of the town while Jesus and his disciples were walking into the town. And that is in Luke 7, beginning in verse 11. And so he's being carried out and Jesus kind of stops the funeral procession and now they have this casket thing and he just raises the man from the dead and so he sits up and gives the man back to his mother. And so we see the incredible miracle power of Jesus in that.
Speaker 2:And let's think about the miracle, the leadership principles from that particular story. Okay, and that would be, for one of them is sometimes we need to do the unpredictable. It's so easy to get into a rut, it's so easy to do the same thing every Monday morning, tuesday morning, wednesday morning, just kind of just so you almost don't even think okay. But sometimes you need to say you know what? We're going to do something a little different this week. We're going to do something a little different in the company. We're going to do this to just kind of not to throw your people off, but just kind of look at it from a different perspective.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And so you want to make sure that your people and you are always learning and growing. And so Jesus, I mean they hadn't seen somebody raised from the dead before, no, and so, all of a sudden, jesus comes in.
Speaker 1:Darrell Bock Caught some fish. That was pretty impressive, darrell.
Speaker 2:Bock. So the miracles are just getting more and more powerful. He's getting a bigger and bigger following, but he wants to make sure that his disciples are always learning and growing, and so he is beginning to show them that, what is possible you know, through his leadership and through who he is, and I think for leaders it's like if you just keep doing the same thing, your people might just get bored. So how are you going to change it up just a little bit? Or are you going to do something? Or like how often do you have a birthday party for your staff or do something, have a staff luncheon or celebrate something? I don't know what that might be. You made 10,000 widgets this month and last month you only made 7,000. What can you do to celebrate your team? What can you do to keep it exciting and learning and growing as a team? And I don't know what's going to work for you.
Speaker 2:I know one thing we did at the church last church was once a month we had brown bag lunch. Everybody would bring their lunch after staff meeting on a Tuesday and you'd bring your brown bag lunch and we would just get in a room and you would sit with people that you normally wouldn't work with, like the children's department. You know, you wouldn't just sit with them and we would just eat and talk and just get to know some people and that was just like something we did. It was just kind of one of those things, but it really added some value to the staff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it reminds me of when my kids were, you know, whatever that is considered before pre-K, right Toddlers, Toddlers, when the school where they first started they had a culture thing. So it was very diverse at the school and everybody brought a dish from their family. So you had Italian, you had all these different cultures and everybody brought a different some people from Africa and across the country and they all brought a dish and it was really fun to go around and taste and know that. And that led me back when you went down to this path. I and that's one of the notes that I made from Luke six is that Jesus, he wasn't just forming a team, he was building a culture. You know, by by doing all these things. He wasn't just by hey, I want to pick you, you know, 12 disciples and all this stuff. He was building a culture. He was laying the groundwork that he didn't have to be the leader and to be there, so he was creating that.
Speaker 1:So it led me to think, when you went down to the brown bag, sort of one of those things is you build that culture, you build that different, you change it up, and what are you going to do as a leader to build that. And to you know, I talk about all the people that have these same meetings every day, every week, the same exact. Just change it up, you know, and it's one of the things you spoke my words right out of my mouth. Hey, just go in Anything new, Nope, All right. Then here's what we're going to do today, Something totally different you know, yeah, and it goes a long.
Speaker 2:Have a stand-up meeting, let someone else run the meeting. You might want to be there, but let someone else run it Instead of, if you have an agenda which we would normally have an agenda work the agenda backwards. Do something to just shake it up. Bring food to the meeting, do something, have someone just share something, just do something. You know, and for a church staff we had always have, we had assigned people to do a short devotional before we started staff meeting or at the beginning of staff meeting, and that just gave everybody an opportunity to bring something unique to the table. And I thought that was really good. And Jesus was a master at that. He saw the potential in every person and he wanted to empower them to bring value to the team.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, his leadership was built on compassion, right, and he was very compassionate. And you can see because, as we mentioned, these first few chapters, it's all about things that he did to build that culture, to gain that leadership, to prove people that he really was the true Messiah- Exactly right.
Speaker 2:So we see that in chapter 5, 6, 7, 8. There's just more and more excitement about his ministry. There's parables, there's miracles. He gets a bigger and bigger following. And then we get to, you know, in chapter 8, at the end well, really at the middle he calms a storm. So there's just more and more miracles. And then we have the healing of Jairus' daughter. He sends out the 12 disciples. And then we get to chapter 10. In chapter 9, the first part of chapter 9, feeding of the 5,000. Now, the feeding of the 5,000 is one of the only miracles. That's in all four Gospels. So you'll find it in Matthew, mark, luke and John. This shows how significant that miracle was. But then we get to chapter 10. And we're going to—I know we're kind of running out of time, but I think the chapter 10, we read about the parable, beginning with verse 25, we read about the parable of the Good Samaritan.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Now we only find that in the book of Luke. Okay, of Luke, okay. And so if you're not familiar with the story, there's a man traveling from Jerusalem to Jericho. He gets beat up, religious leaders walk by and don't do anything, and then a Samaritan, who was hated by the Jews and Jews hated Samaritans, helps him and takes him to an inn and pays for it, and he says, hey, if there's any, if there's, if I owe you any more, when I come back I'll pay you more.
Speaker 2:Jesus is basically saying, hey, this is the kind of person you need to be. You don't need to have prejudice, you don't need to have bias, you need to be about helping people, and so that was such a kind of a new way of looking at life. We're even supposed to help the people that don't like us, and so it just kind of we even see that term used today, not in the biblical sense, but we see it on. You know, this person was a good Samaritan. They were broken down on the side of the road and this person stopped to help them. There's good Samaritan laws now, and so it's like how are we going to be helping other people? And Jesus was all about that. As you said he was very compassionate and Jesus was all about that. As you said, he was very, very compassionate.
Speaker 1:And Samaritan comes from. You know it's a charitable or helpful person, right, but didn't it come from Samaria? Is that where it came?
Speaker 2:from, or there's a history there is. We don't have time to get into that today.
Speaker 1:What but? I mean, but when, Dr B.
Speaker 2:Why don't we talk about that at the beginning of next?
Speaker 1:week. All right, fine, it's your birthday. I'll table the question until next week, but there is a history of what the Samaritans were and why there was some animosity between the Jewish people and the Samaritans.
Speaker 2:Okay, great, All right.
Speaker 1:I will table that question until next week and I will do it. So I don't want to cut you out of dad joke time right, no we got to because we're close to ending, close to the end of the podcast, which is crazy. Didn't we just start this podcast?
Speaker 2:We just did. It seemed like it's gone by so fast.
Speaker 1:Just the time flies when you're having fun. Exactly right.
Speaker 2:So it's getting to our dad joke. So what do you get if you cross a mountain and a baby? A cry for Alp. Not the one I was going to. You know I'd hate to be a taxi driver.
Speaker 1:Why.
Speaker 2:Because people are always talking behind your back.
Speaker 1:They are, they are and that would be. Yes, let's see, I don't know.
Speaker 2:You don't know.
Speaker 1:Trying to find some unique ones.
Speaker 2:Unique dad jokes. There's only about 10 million out there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I try to find one that ties into our lesson of the day.
Speaker 2:You know. So even after I'm retired, I'm still being asked to do weddings. Okay, yes, I've done several funerals, but'm still being asked to do weddings. Okay, yes, I've done several funerals, but I'm still asked to do weddings. And this one couple contacted me the other day and they're avid readers, so they wanted to get married at the library. So we checked it out but it was all booked up.
Speaker 1:I don't know. All right, I'll give it to you.
Speaker 2:I had to think about it, to me that was a.
Speaker 1:I had to think here oh all right, anything else no, we need elisa here she come out with some good ones she had some good ones.
Speaker 2:She had some help, you know, with their books she did.
Speaker 1:I only have help with about 40. Oh my gosh you've heard us talk about it. Dr Posey has like the whole side of the podcast table over. There is all jokes, right.
Speaker 2:I have one page of biblical research and eight pages of dad jokes. Yes, that's exactly right, but you know, you know well, I should tell people about my book. You should tell people about my book you should. Yeah, yeah, so um, it's been very normal for years that I dream almost every night yeah and so I started dreaming about a year and a half ago. I just started having this dream and I had. This was weird, as I had the same dream every night for weeks, which is crazy.
Speaker 2:Which is crazy, and it was very, very vivid. Okay, so I finally decided to write it down and I thought oh, this is a nice little story, I'll give it to Diana as a story. Well, I finished writing that down and I'm a horrible typist, so it took me a long time to type it and I just did a Word document. Well, as soon as I finished typing it, the next night I had another dream, which was a sequel to that one, and I typed that one, and then I had another dream that was a sequel and that literally started in January a year ago and ended last October, and it ended up being a book of 554 pages.
Speaker 1:That's amazing.
Speaker 2:It just got published about two months ago. Well, really on Mother's Day, I gave it to Diana for Mother's Day and it's called the Candle Maker and it's a historical romantic fiction book about a couple just pre-World War II, and it's just a dream, I mean, it was just, I just wrote it down. Yeah, it got published by Amazon. It's on Amazon now and if you're on IngramSparks that's another competitor Amazon it's on IngramSparks. You can get that. And yeah, I enjoyed it and I still dream, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, get that pen and paper out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like you never know what's going to come to your brain. But the other night I had this dream about being a muffler and I woke up exhausted.
Speaker 1:Anyway, he really does have a book Check him out the Candlemaker Very good. That's still an amazing thing and I have dreams and I write them down but usually don't turn into a book that maybe I should get onto it. I've got about three books halfway wrote so I just need to finish one of them and get it up there.
Speaker 2:Well, I worked with a great team with Amazon, and they edited it. Our daughter Tricia, who's a phenomenal person with English language she has really a great gift she was my initial editor. But we didn't know how to edit it for a book. For a book, you know, for a manuscript, just as a Word document, yes, but as a book, no. We didn't know that. So we reached out and Amazon edited it, put it in a book form. They did the cover art, you know, and all that kind of stuff. It was a great team and so it was a good experience. It took a little longer than I thought because I was inexperienced in that process, right, but it came out here just literally two months ago and I'm excited, I'm really excited. So catch it if you need, and I tell people, if you have a problem going to sleep, order the book, read one or two pages and it'll put you right to sleep.
Speaker 1:It's that simple, right. It's just that simple. Yeah, all right, all right, man. Well, guys, get the book, check us out biblicalleadershipshowcom. Let us know what we can do for you. We will come back and hopefully, maybe we'll continue to talk about it. We'll continue to talk about Luke, chapter 11. Yeah, chapter 11. We may or may not get through it, but at least you got next week and maybe the week after on Luke and then come back and see us, shoot us an email, shoot us a text, all that stuff. But other than that, dr P, take us out, make it a great day, thank you.
