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Lost and Found: Leadership Lessons from Luke
What's the true value of a single lost sheep when you have ninety-nine others safely in the fold? According to Jesus, everything. This week's episode dives deep into the Gospel of Luke and extracts powerful leadership lessons that remain remarkably relevant two millennia after they were first taught.
Dr. Posey opens with a personal story about losing his wallet while cycling—containing not just his license and credit cards, but an irreplaceable wedding photo. This experience creates a perfect bridge to discuss the three parables in Luke 15 about lost items: the lost coin, the lost sheep, and the prodigal son. Each story emphasizes a crucial leadership principle: everyone has equal value.
We explore how this principle translates directly to modern leadership contexts. Do all your team members feel equally valued regardless of their position or title? The maintenance person, the accountant, and the sales executive might have different responsibilities, but their worth to the organization should be equal. Great leaders ensure this message isn't just communicated but demonstrated through consistent actions.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn when we examine the often-overlooked perspective of the loyal son in the prodigal son story. His resentment toward his father's generosity offers another leadership insight: when giving special treatment to one employee (even for legitimate reasons like illness), be sensitive to how that appears to others. This doesn't mean avoiding compassion, but rather communicating clearly about why accommodations are being made.
Our hosts share personal stories about poor onboarding experiences, highlighting how frustrating it is when leaders don't make time for new team members. Drawing from Luke 16:10—"One who is faithful in very little is also faithful in much"—we discuss why great leaders gradually increase responsibility as trust is built through deliberately designed onboarding programs with clear expectations and regular check-ins.
Whether you're leading a multinational corporation or a small team, these timeless principles from Luke's gospel provide a blueprint for valuing people, building trust, communicating clearly, and maintaining consistent focus on what truly matters. The ultimate leadership lesson? Consistency beats intensity every time.
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Speaker 2:Welcome birthday boy. Woo-hoo, it's your birthday, happy birthday to you.
Speaker 1:Happy birthday. You don't want me singing, I'll just say it. Happy birthday, tim. Well, thank you very much. I'm glad to be here on my birthday.
Speaker 2:Yes, how fun is that, right? Yes.
Speaker 1:Ended up hitting on a Tuesday and get to hang out and see Dr P, have some fun. Exactly right.
Speaker 2:Tell some dad jokes.
Speaker 1:Dad jokes.
Speaker 2:He walks into the studio this morning and the first thing out of his mouth he goes man, I am loaded up, I do.
Speaker 1:I have so many dad jokes.
Speaker 2:I have so many dad jokes.
Speaker 1:And he is ready to. He's chomping at the bit.
Speaker 2:So you know, maybe I'll have to find some birthday dad jokes. I don't have any birthday dad jokes. I'll work on that. But we were at some friend's house the other night for dinner and they have a garden for the first time and they had little peppers and tomatoes and cantaloupe and it made me think. You know, I'd like to grow a garden, but I haven't been able to find any bacon seeds. Which one, which one? How bad is that? Do I go with the crickets or do I go with the rubber?
Speaker 1:shot. Let's see. Why did the teddy bear skip the birthday cake? Because he was already stuffed, all right. Why did the balloon break up with the party?
Speaker 2:Because there's too much pressure.
Speaker 1:One more over there, Dr B.
Speaker 2:Okay, so let me ask you a question Is there ever a day where mattresses are not on sale?
Speaker 1:That's a business that I still haven't figured out. I think I'm somewhat smart in business, but I have never figured out mattress sales. They are always in the most expensive locations, the biggest rent, and sorry, I'm ruining your joke.
Speaker 2:I went out on a rant.
Speaker 1:How many mattresses you got to sell to pay $15,000?
Speaker 2:rent plus your employees.
Speaker 1:Anyway. So mattresses, tell me about mattresses.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I just was thinking You're driving over here you get commercials on mattresses. They're probably going to start their Labor Day sale here tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Right they just finished.
Speaker 2:They've extended the July 4th sale.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:Getting ready. There's no holiday in August, right, and so they've got to extend the July 4th sale in order to kind of segue into the Labor Day sale.
Speaker 1:Got to do something, yeah, there might be one day in there.
Speaker 2:It's the day they're closed, that they're not on sale, and even at that you probably could find them at the back door, and even at that you probably could find them at the back door right.
Speaker 1:So there's always a will, there's a way.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's just amazing. It's just absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, we've been continuing on. If you're just joining us, which I think most people have been hanging out with us for a little bit but we've been working through a year-long program of going through each book, each chapter of the Bible, each book of the Bible, each book of the Bible, yeah. And chapters from time to time, depending on you know.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:We don't get through a full book, every podcast right, just because you know some of us have taken, you know, four or five podcasts to get through a thing and some of them we whip out multiples in one. But we are working through New Testament.
Speaker 2:Yes, and so we are on our third week of the Gospel of Luke.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And so we thought we'd get through in two weeks, but we'll probably get through in four.
Speaker 1:Probably four.
Speaker 2:But that's okay, it's okay because this is your favorite. It's one of your favorites, right? It's my favorite book in the whole Bible. Yeah, yeah, favorite book.
Speaker 1:So I mean if it's Dr P's favorite and he's been doing this more than a year. A little more than a year, yeah, a little bit more than a year, and if it's his favorite, we have to spend some time on this, you know, because, it's just there's so many. There's so much great output, there's so many good lessons through this, from leadership and biblical and everything in this. It's just that there's a lot of stuff that you can go deep dive in yeah, so we're going to get to that in just a minute.
Speaker 2:I have another job.
Speaker 1:I figured I could see by the smile on your face. I just found out it is illegal to laugh out loud in Hawaii. Oh, that wasn't it. I know that's not even the joke, I'm just kidding and you're already giving the gong.
Speaker 2:Remember the gong show. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:I'm going to download a gong. I got to have a gong on this. Yes, oh my gosh, bring it back.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I just found out it's illegal to laugh out loud in Hawaii.
Speaker 1:And why is it illegal to laugh out loud? Because you have to keep it to a low ha.
Speaker 2:All right, are you going to one? To you, it had to be done, all right, okay. And so let's just get into the Bible. And let me just tell you a story that actually is true and it happened to me a little over, about a week and a half ago, and so I was riding my bike down in Fort Worth, downtown, and I think one of the great assets of the city of Fort Worth is the Trinity Trails. You can jog, you can ride your bike, you know all that kind of stuff. There's little cafes along the trail, there's water fountains, people walk their dog.
Speaker 2:You know, I was riding my bike and so it had rained a lot, and there's a couple low-water bridges so you can cross the river and the Trinity River, and so I thought, well, I don't know what the water level is on the low-water bridge, so I'm going to park in the middle at Trinity Park and ride one direction and, if I can, I'll ride to the other end, which is about 30 miles altogether. Okay, so I get in my bike, I get there early because it's going to be hot, and I head out north, go through downtown, take it all the way to Gateway Park, come back. It's doing good. Now, one thing about the Trinity Trail the wind is always blowing either in your face or on your back. Okay, always, and so, which is fine.
Speaker 2:And so I made it back to the car, but I didn't stop. I just kept going south and I went all the way to the other end, to Oakmont Park, and come back. I'm getting ready to put my bike on the car because I'm done 30 miles, 32 miles or so I'm done. And it's that moment I realized most cyclists not all, but most have a little bag that's attached to their seat okay saddlebag, that they carry their wallet in their keys, their phone, maybe some food.
Speaker 2:If you have a flat tire. There's a little thing that fix your flat tire, so I have one of those. And I get back to the car and I'm getting ready to load my bike onto the car rack and I realized I hadn't zipped the bag. So, my wallet was gone Nice. So I called my wife and I said uh, you know I have a little issue here I need your help with.
Speaker 2:Uh, I need you to put a hold or cancel the credit cards because I had my wallet in there, I mean, and my driver's license, credit cards, you know, whatever card from the bank, debit card. I told several people the thing that I I hated losing the most, because you can replace your driver's license Sure, and I have an appointment on Thursday to go get that done. You can get new credit cards, but you know what? What I can't replace is the original picture from our wedding. Yeah, that just made me so sad, anyway. So my wife said well, why don't you go and see if you can find it? I'll do the credit card. You go find it.
Speaker 1:So I get back on my so you rode another 32 miles.
Speaker 2:I did looking for my bike.
Speaker 1:That's pretty impressive. Looking for my wallet.
Speaker 2:And I also had this little pump to blow up my tires and air up my tires and I knew if I had seen one I'd find them both. I did. I rode another 32 miles all the way. Um, I'm glad I had extra like a little gatorade pack for my, for my bike, and I fill that up and had plenty of fluid and all that kind of stuff. Um, I did not find it at all. So lesson there make sure you zip your bike bag.
Speaker 1:Maybe a good Samaritan will mail it back to you.
Speaker 2:I'm hoping so, but it's been about a week and a half and I was hoping that happened. But I was thinking because I knew this podcast was coming up. And in the story in Luke, chapter 15, it's one of the most, let's just say, important lessons in the entire Bible. There there's three parables Jesus tells. One is called the lost coin, one is called the lost sheep and one is called the lost son, or most of us know the story as the story of the prodigal son. And so the lost coin, the lady. She has 10 coins, she loses one and she sweeps her house until she finds it the lost sheep. There's one missing out of 100. The shepherd leaves at 99. He goes and looks and then he finds his lost sheep and everybody's rejoicing the prodigal son.
Speaker 2:If you're not familiar with that story, I encourage you to read the whole thing. I'll just summarize it. The father had two sons and we're assuming that the wife was dead or we don't know where she was in the story, but she's not mentioned. And the younger son says hey, dad, I want my inheritance, and according to Scripture that the older son would get two-thirds, the younger son would get a third, and so he's hesitant, but he did it, and then the son leaves the home and goes and squanders all his money and has to find, you know, end up in a pig farm feeding pigs and he goes. You know, my dad's servants eat better than I do. So the Bible says he came to himself. That's only two times in the whole Bible that that phrase is used. And he came to himself, went back home, and it said his father saw him far away and ran to him and embraced him and welcomed him back home Embraced him and welcomed him back home.
Speaker 2:And so the thing about it is, for the Scripture is that Jesus never stops looking. He's always looking for those who are lost or those people who are not a part of his fold. He loves everybody equally and everybody has the same value in his eyes as everyone else. And so the leadership lesson is let's think about that for business Does everybody have the same value? They might not have the same job. Okay, you might have some person working maintenance, some person in sales, some person in something else accounting but the question is, does everybody have the same value, and do they know it?
Speaker 2:The shepherd had 99, 100 sheep, but one was missing. You think, oh, it's just one, it doesn't really matter. No, it mattered that lost sheep was just as important as the 99 in the fold. The lady had 10 corn. She loses one. She swept the house until she found it. We don't know how long it took, but she finally found it because that one was as valuable as the one she already had. The father had two sons, one left. It was still valuable. So the question would be are all my people, my team, my employees, whatever are they, have the same value? And how do we know that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know there's multiple things that I would probably say on that is is um. When we were up at um uh dc here recently, yeah, we went, we went to the museum of the bible and and if you've never been there.
Speaker 1:It's pretty cool, it's. It's a. I've been meaning to go. The last couple times I was up there and we finally went, my family and stuff and and uh. So when you saying that, I was thinking they had a little touch screen where you had to keep all the sheep and everyone ran off. You had to touch it. It would go back so you had to see how many sheep you'd lose and if, hopefully, you lost zero. But yeah, so I know that there was a lot of tension with the existing son, that he had stayed and he had been loyal the whole time and he really wasn't happy about this whole situation with the father, you know, welcoming him back with open arms and making him throw in this big party for him. He's like, well, I've been here the whole time and I mean that's a huge problem that we see sometimes. I guess favoritism we have this perception of favoritism and in leadership and some different things like that. So the thoughts on that.
Speaker 2:Well, that is a big part of the story that we often overlook because we're so focused on the prodigal son that we forget about the loyal son, and the thing about it is we see that he was just angry, and he was angry over what His dad's generosity and grace. And so it's like, okay, do we have employees that maybe we've given a person extra special attention? Because I remember one time we had an incredible person in our accounting department at the church, but she had leukemia and we had to, in order to accommodate that, we had to make some special arrangements for her so that she could go through treatment, she could be off work. You know, other people pitched in to do some of the work that she was doing and we made those accommodations because she was so valuable. And so the question would be are we going to make accommodations for everybody? And if so, what are the boundaries for that? You know, just because, well, you gave her off so many weeks, can I have this? No, because she was going through chemo treatment.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And so.
Speaker 1:But you want to make and there's a sort of compassion there. Yes, you got to have you know so many people are. It's about me, right, you know and I don't know, and I think that's the older son it was the older son.
Speaker 2:I mean everything. The father said, everything I have is yours, but your son, your brother, and it's interesting, you know he never says the brother, he says you know, this son of mine, this son of yours, was lost and now attitude and our performance and and it's like no, you know that's not healthy.
Speaker 2:So if you do give special treatment to a person, you've got to be sensitive to what that looks like to the other people on your team and just be aware of that. So that's some really good lessons from Luke, chapter 15, and just that one chapter, and so if you're not familiar with that, I just encourage you to read it. We hear the words the prodigal son or the prodigal this or the prodigal. We still hear that today and that Jesus told that story 2000 years ago. But the lessons from that are just as valuable today as they were then.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so what happens in chapter 16 and 17?
Speaker 2:Oh my goodness, chapter 16. Well, you know, it's just.
Speaker 1:Looks like we get into the shrewd manager, right, you know the parable of the shrewd manager.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And I think that's I can think of a shrewd manager. I mean me and you both told stories about different things that we've been through bosses that we ended up quitting and didn't want to work for, because they didn't represent the values that I have as a human as you know my personal values and we sort of said no, and I think that everybody's sort of been through that at some point. So, shrewd managers, what do you have on that?
Speaker 2:Well, I think we could really talk about that particular parable for a long time. But I think really, for me verse 10 is the crux of the matter for leadership, and Jesus said this one who is faithful in very little is also faithful in much, and one who is dishonest in very little is also dishonest in much. So I think the question would be do we have a process in our organization where we increasingly, by design, give people more and more responsibility? We're not going to just come in from the very beginning and just give people a huge amount of responsibility. They have to earn that right, 100% right.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So you give them a little bit, you realize you trust them, you give them a little bit more, you give them a little bit more, you give them more, and for some employees that have experience, they might accelerate that pretty quick. Other employees that are just like brand new, new graduates, or maybe they come in from a different type of organization or background, it might take them longer. But I think what is important is to outline the process for onboarding. Okay, this process is going to take you 90 days, or we're going to evaluate this in six months, or we're going to evaluate it in two months. No-transcript. There is a, let's just say, a family member who recently started a new job. I won't say who, I won't say what they do, but he's very good at what he does. Okay, started a new job here a couple of months ago, but the onboarding process is not necessarily outlined, and so it's just frustration because he doesn't know when is the next training? What am I supposed to do in the midst of this? You know, and so it's just if they would have outlined from the beginning. Just say, okay, there's going to be like four phases of your onboarding process. This thing's going to take you six months. These are the steps that we're going to take over that time. You six months. These are the steps that we're going to take over that time.
Speaker 2:To me, that's good leadership, because then the employee knows exactly what to expect. They don't have to think why is this taking so long? No, because you outlined it from the very beginning. So you're outlining expectations, you're outlining the timeline, and I just think that's good leadership. And so I think what they're doing is literally living out this verse, verse 10. You're making sure that when you stair-step them up to more and more responsibility, that they can actually handle that, and I just think that that's just good business. Not all companies do that, obviously, but you have better morale if the employees know exactly what they're supposed to do when they're supposed to do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had a company at one point in my life that was the exact same thing. I came in and I was going to ride with a manager and he was going to sort of bring me up to speed. Well, the manager, about the time I started he ended up having LASIK surgery and stuff and was out for a couple weeks and then couldn't drive, so I was sitting in there.
Speaker 1:So I took it on myself to just do stuff. Right, I'm just going to create my own way. I'm sort of a go-getter, I don't need to be told direction. At the same time I was asking the owner. I'm like can I take you to lunch? Can I buy you lunch this week, today, tomorrow, next week? Now I'm really busy, okay, great. And then I'd ask the person well, I'm still, I can't do anything, I'm still going to sit at home. And then I would go back to the owner the next week I go. Can I buy you lunch? I need to talk to you about some things on my list.
Speaker 1:And and it went on for a month and a half I couldn't get either of them to do something. So I sit there and just sort of form my own way. And then it finally came up. They're like well, you're not really working out because you're you're not really doing what we expected. I'm like I've been asking you for a month and a half. You know, let's talk about it. And then we have that big discussion. I'm like you guys got to get really better about this. I don't care, I don't know that. I want to stay with you one and for two. If you want to move forward as a company, you've got to get much better at this because it was ridiculous.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so many times we just assume that somebody knows, you know and you might have a job description, but that doesn't necessarily tell them priorities. It doesn't tell them timeline, it doesn't say, hey, I'm going to meet with you every week.
Speaker 2:We're going to go over the expectations that you have this week. I remember one of the things that I did is, any new employee, I'd meet with him every week for at least 30 minutes, just one-on-one, and we would look at okay, what's your, you know what are your list of things to do this week. Okay, now, what priority do you think they need to be? No, let's change number three to number one because that's going to take most of your time, and if that one gets done, then that's going to be really good. If that one doesn't get done and we push it to next week, that puts everybody behind the timeline. So that's just good leadership. Now, if you don't have time to do that, if you don't have time to meet with your people that are new.
Speaker 2:The question is, who's going to meet with them? You know you don't want to just someone just twiddling their thumbs or just being in the office or just like floundering. You want to guide them so that you can onboard them. Now it literally could take like I feel that when you hire an administrative assistant which I've had some really amazing people that I've worked with that are administrative assistants I really think it takes a good three years to train administrative assistants in a church, because the first year they're just learning all the stuff that happens during the year okay, and so you're making sure that they know okay, this is going to happen at this particular, you know, vacation Bible School.
Speaker 2:Then we go into this in September, then we go into this in October and it takes them a year to do that. Then the second year they go oh yeah, this is what we did last year. Do you want to do it the same, whatever? And then the third year they pretty much can just go with it. So the question is for any job, what is your onboarding process? And if you have a seasonal thing, like you're in retail and you have seasonal products or seasonal menus or whatever it is. Does your employees know what that is? Do they know what the expectation is? And if they do, that's really really good, and if they don't, you might need to examine how you onboard your people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I pitch that in all my seminars and my consulting and I say it's the biggest thing that managers make the mistake of doing is they're in the process of interviewing. They're in the process of interviewing, they're spending a lot of time, they're courting these people and then, when it comes to where they start the company, they turn them to the HR department and fill out these forms. They'll tell you what to do, show you what to do, and then they never check back with the person they just hired and ultimately that's where the downfall becomes, because then it's subject to whatever. They want to be part of you, but if you don't give them time, then you're relying on their cube mates that might hate your guts right.
Speaker 1:That thinks you're a horrible boss. I mean, who knows what it might be? And I think that's the biggest thing I tell all my executives please don't do that. That's the one thing I ask and I'm such a beaut is onboarding process and then make sure that they're cross-trained and they know other people in the departments that they can go ask their managers and talk to the people that might be. Those are my two biggest pet peeves. I would call them and I don't have too many pet peeves, but I think that's where the biggest mistakes that managers make.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and let's get to another one, chapter 17. At the very beginning, jesus talks about temptations and he says temptations to sin are surely to come, and so we can go back. So many podcasts, we've talked about this, but the temptation to veer away from your values or your mission statement or your vision is so persistent. It's so easy to get sidetracked by the temptation to just kind of run you know away with the latest thing, instead of keeping with your vision, keeping right in. The temptation to get distracted, temptation to follow this latest thing on social media. It is so real and it's there all the time.
Speaker 2:And that really goes with what Jesus is talking about in chapter 18, because there's another parable where there was a widow that came and kept asking a judge for you know, just kept asking, asking, asking, and it's called the parable of persistent widow. And so here's the thing. I think those two things tie together. And so here's the thing, I think those two things tie together.
Speaker 2:If you're going to be focused on your mission you know you're focused on your values, your core values you've got to be persistent in that you can't get sidetracked. If you get sidetracked, it's easy to excuse it this one time and then excuse it a little bit more, use it a little bit more and all of a sudden you know within six months you're so off track that it takes you a year or two to get back on track. So just be persistent, focused. You don't have to be hard-nosed about it, but you make sure that. I think the leader's job, one of the leader's main job, is to keep focused on the mission, the vision the core values, to make sure those are lived out every day, with every person.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's what Jesus uses. This, you know, the persistent witness to show the power of persistent prayer.
Speaker 2:You know yes.
Speaker 1:And you know and I guess it's God's willingness to respond it doesn't always respond the way you want to sometimes, but sometimes, if you're consistent in your values and you get it in your head, I think persistence can pay off. There's a lot of different things.
Speaker 2:I think one of the greatest characteristics of a good leader is persistence.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and one of the things I made note down there in prayer and leadership, consistency beats intensity. Yeah, that's good and that's uh, that's one of the things I made a note for.
Speaker 2:I like that so yeah, and just think about this I, I, uh, I was at the pool this morning before I came into the. You know the studio and and I see a friend of mine that I've known probably 25 years, and he's there every day and and so it's like you know he's there. He's an he's an older gentleman, but he's there not to see how much weight he can lift. He's there every day, at least five days a week. Just being very persistent in that.
Speaker 2:And he's not going to be a bodybuilder, he's not going to be a weightlifter, he's not going to break any records, but he's going to be very faithful and persistent in in always showing up and doing what he's going to do, whether it's lifting weights, riding the bike, you know what, whatever and I think what you just said is so true is that if you're going to do something, you need to be persistent in it. You can't just like, oh, let's focus on the mission, and then, six months from now, oh, let's focus on the mission. No, you've got to be focused on that pretty much all the time.
Speaker 1:And if you do stumble, get back on the horse or like I'm coming off vacation and then birthday week this is not real good about being persistent in the gym, right, but come August, end of this week, I'm back on that way.
Speaker 1:I'm back on that horse again and we're going to get consistent and and, uh, even take it to the next notch, you know, but I mean, that's one of those things so many people think, you know, and I talk to this like they set goals the first year and then they don't look at their goals or they're not. Well, I'm just done. I'm just going to wait until next year and reset my goals, right, why Reset it right now? Let's do it Come on.
Speaker 2:Let's get back on the horse, right.
Speaker 1:But I mean it's you know so anyway, so technically get to.
Speaker 2:I think we got to chapter 18, verse one. All right, well, there we go. But you know we've only got luke's, only got 24 chapters, so we can cover, hopefully, four chapters next week I don't know I don't know, hopefully so it's possible, yeah, yeah, oh, my goodness, I see you jonesing over there.
Speaker 1:I know we're running so many dad jokes.
Speaker 2:We could spend another hour on dad jokes, but I will only spend 30 minutes.
Speaker 1:It's my birthday.
Speaker 2:We're going to do that on my birthday, Okay so what is made of leather and sounds like a sneeze?
Speaker 1:Made of leather and sounds like a sneeze, I do not know. A chew, a chew.
Speaker 2:I didn't even get a button on that one. That's awesome.
Speaker 1:Well, I was trying to see if my buttons I don't know, we keep talking about buttons, but I don't think I got them technically hooked up because we had some technical difficulty right before this, so I don't think I have them oh good, so I'll tell you real fast let's see oh I think we can hear it, but I don't think they can hear it.
Speaker 2:So so here's another one. You know I don't know what the new uh car models coming out here here in about a month, uh for 2026. I've heard that some of the newer cars are having what's called a senior GPS, not just a GPS, a senior GPS. You know what that?
Speaker 1:is. Wait a second. Are you just happening to saying this one on my birthday? I mean, do you have to bring?
Speaker 2:this up on my birthday, right.
Speaker 1:Well, if the shoe fits. If the shoe fits, okay.
Speaker 2:So senior GPS? The amazing thing about it is not only does it tell you how to get to your destination, it tells you why you want to go there.
Speaker 1:I was looking at something of mine. How do you know you're getting old when the candles cost more than the birthday cake?
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you have to have a fire extinguisher, you know as one of your presents.
Speaker 1:Why are birthdays good for your health? Because the more you have, the longer you live. That's it.
Speaker 2:Oh, what kind of birds build skyscrapers.
Speaker 1:I would say Cranes. That's a good one, like that, yay, yay, give me one more.
Speaker 2:I need to paint my fence at the house and I went to the paint store to get some thinner.
Speaker 1:It didn't work All righty. Well, I guess we could leave them there.
Speaker 2:No, we got a couple more.
Speaker 1:Here's, one more. All right, one more One more.
Speaker 2:What do you call a happy cowboy?
Speaker 1:Happy? I do not know.
Speaker 2:A jolly rancher.
Speaker 1:Ba-dum-bum-bum. All right, one more. I can't leave on that one.
Speaker 2:Okay. So when I was in college, okay, and I felt led to go from medical school to become a pastor, I figured I needed to learn how to play guitar and I really wanted to play guitar so badly. Well, now I've been practicing for 60 years and I've achieved that. I'm a really bad guitar player. I play it real badly.
Speaker 1:Hey, I've heard you play it before. He's pretty good. I'm going to sign up as agent.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, right.
Speaker 1:He's more of a background person right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, background, you play the bass, right, I play rhythm guitar. Yeah, rhythm guitar, that's what it is. Okay, anyway, happy birthday. Well, thank you, oh, my goodness, thank you very much.
Speaker 1:I'm excited, so I'm going to go have a good, we've got a lot of stuff going on this week. I've got our statewide builder show, so it's overlapping with some stuff with the family time, so I'm staying busy this week.
Speaker 2:You are very busy. Absolutely, make sure to have some cake. I'm sure we'll figure it out somehow some way.
Speaker 1:So we appreciate you being with us. Check us out biblicalleadershipshowcom and.
Speaker 2:Dr Posey, take us out. Hey, make it a great day. Thank you, guys.
