The Biblical Leadership Show
Inspiration. Wisdom. Leadership from a Higher Perspective.
Welcome to The Biblical Leadership Show, your go-to resource for discovering timeless truths from Scripture that empower leaders to inspire, influence, and impact their world. Hosted by Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey, this podcast takes a deep dive into the Bible’s profound lessons on leadership, bringing fresh perspectives to timeless principles that resonate in today’s fast-paced, ever-changing world.
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The Biblical Leadership Show
Confronting What's Broken: Leadership Wisdom from Luke
What transforms an employee from someone who simply collects a paycheck into a passionate advocate for your company's mission? Drawing wisdom from the Gospel of Luke, this episode uncovers the powerful parallel between biblical discipleship and effective leadership in today's organizations.
We explore how leaders can foster true engagement by genuinely caring for their team members and connecting them to a larger purpose. Through examining Jesus' interactions—from his persistent widow parable to his graceful confrontation with Zacchaeus—we extract principles for leading through challenges while maintaining balance, addressing problems without criticizing people, and practicing the kind of humility that C.S. Lewis described as "thinking of yourself less."
Perhaps most compelling is the discussion of how leaders must offer hope, even in difficult circumstances. Just as Jesus provided hope in his final moments on the cross, great leaders paint a vision of the future that motivates their teams through challenges. We break down how different team members find hope in different things—whether financial security, work-life balance, or meaningful contribution—and why knowing your people is essential to offering the specific kind of hope that resonates with each individual.
These leadership principles create workplaces where people become champions of the mission rather than just collecting a paycheck. Whether you're building a startup, managing a team, or simply want to grow as a leader, this episode provides practical wisdom for transformation that benefits both organizations and the people within them.
How do you move your team members from being recipients to advocates? Share your experiences or questions with us and join us next week as we continue our exploration of leadership wisdom from Luke's Gospel!
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Speaker 2:Yeah, you gotta do it, Gotta do it how you doing.
Speaker 1:Dr Pete.
Speaker 2:I'm doing good, Tim, how you doing?
Speaker 1:man, oh man, surviving hanging in there, just glad to be back in town.
Speaker 2:Yes, you know that's my fun stuff. I mean, we're in August.
Speaker 1:I know it's crazy August.
Speaker 2:Already August. This is unbelievable.
Speaker 1:Yes, it really is insane.
Speaker 2:actually. It's like wait a minute when you think about it. What happened to July?
Speaker 1:I know Where'd Insane. It's like wait a minute when you think about it. What happened to July? I know?
Speaker 2:Where did summer go right? It was like a blink. Yeah, and your kids start school next week. I do.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:That's amazing right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's good and bad. I mean I miss the kids. I love hanging out with my kids, you know. Same time, you know it's nice to be able to get back onto a little bit of a routine as well. So that's good for work and, you know, making money and everything as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we just got back from Houston on Sunday and we were down there. Our son and his family were in the area and visiting our daughter-in-law's family, so we just thought we'd go down there. Just bebop down. Well, yeah, so I think we broke a world record. Yes, on, I think it was Thursday, we got there Wednesday. They got there Wednesday. We rented an Airbnb in Conroe, a nice little town. Yes, and we, I think, might have broken a world record for going to Chick-fil-A the most times in one day.
Speaker 2:we were there three times in one day the grandkids had no problem with going to Chick-fil-A three times.
Speaker 1:Just spoil them. That's what grandparents do, right? Yes, exactly you know. We're going to Chick-fil-A three times. Just spoil them. That's what grandparents do, right? Yes, exactly you know.
Speaker 2:Spoil them, give them back to their parents.
Speaker 1:I understand the way it works. I was thinking you were going to say maybe a world record that you weren't in traffic in Houston. But I mean you know, Chick-fil-A works as well.
Speaker 2:We only went down as far as the woodlands.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, there's still a good little traffic around the woodland, so it's getting crazy down in that area as well.
Speaker 2:It was good. It was really really good.
Speaker 1:Wonderful.
Speaker 2:So back here and back in the studio. It was good. I was thinking about getting a part-time job, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:I've been retired now gosh two years, two and a half years.
Speaker 1:That's crazy, it's been that long, hasn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's been crazy, but we've been traveling a lot and seeing family and stuff like that. But I applied for a job. It's very part-time, it's for a blanket company.
Speaker 1:A blanket company.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they said I would be an undercover agent.
Speaker 1:Oh boy, I was like this boy is not getting a job. I know that, so I know where we're going with this early on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got to get into dad jokes, come on.
Speaker 1:We do. We do got to get into dad jokes, but yeah, it's, you know, if you're a first-time listener or whatever.
Speaker 2:Thank you, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1:We do pick up listeners every week, we do. But you know we talk biblical, a lot about the biblical. Dr Pierre has been around in the ministry for, let's say, more than two years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a little over two years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a little over two years, maybe 42 years, and I teach a lot of leadership in the world and some other things With business and home building and stuff, corporate training and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:And then we throw a lot of dad jokes in and people ask us why do we do dad jokes? Because we can. I think was always our answer right. Just because when we started this, we started on this journey, we decided we're going to make it fun and have fun, and for both of us to have fun it's dad jokes isn't it?
Speaker 2:Exactly right? Exactly right. So you got to laugh in the world, right? You know? I saw an ad. You know, with summer coming to an end, a lot of companies are trying to gear up for fall, and one of the airplane companies I won't say which one, that would be unfair they were advertising extremely low rates for flying anywhere in the continental United States, and so they advertised an airplane with no decorations or branding on the plane. And you know what they called it An air plane.
Speaker 1:I'm reaching for the button there.
Speaker 2:All right, I'm surprised you didn't the gong button. I forgot about that, I got to put that on.
Speaker 1:I'm going to. As soon as we get done with the show, I'm going to go write that down. I got to install a gong. That would make me so happy on the gong.
Speaker 2:I love the gong show man. That was so funny. That was such a good show. Oh, is that the one with the big hook? Did they have the big hook?
Speaker 1:Yeah, the big hook, it was the gong the big hook, I do believe, and they'd always wrestle people trying to gong and you know, no, don't do it, don't do it and all that stuff. So yeah, that's great, you start calling people.
Speaker 2:Well, I do, but I'll wait. Oh, you're going to wait.
Speaker 1:So we've been doing this marathon on Luke, Is that correct?
Speaker 2:Oh my goodness, yeah my favorite book, favorite book. That's why we're doing a marathon right. Yeah, I think we're now in chapter one, verse 30.
Speaker 1:This is our fourth one on Luke, but we're there.
Speaker 2:We're there.
Speaker 1:We're going to get through it next year, you know, and all this stuff. Yeah, if you're just joining us, it's the first time. So we're doing a year-long Go Back and, luke, we started with the Old Testament and we're doing a year-long every book.
Speaker 1:And it's been a good journey. It's been a good journey for me. I've enjoyed it and, I think, a lot of the listeners, the feedback we're getting and the emails, tech messages. It's been great. But yeah, we're going to finish up Luke today and then continue on next week. Well, I mean, our hope is to finish up Luke today.
Speaker 2:I think we can do it. I think we could. Yeah, 18 to 24, is that right?
Speaker 1:18 to 24, yeah, so I think we should be able to pull it off today.
Speaker 2:Well, there's a really I mean this part of Luke, the last part of Luke, and you've got to remember who Luke was. He was a physician that the Apostle Paul met on one of his missionary journeys, and then Luke became a follower and a disciple of Paul. So he was not Jewish by birth, but he was not also in Israel, so he had never personally met Jesus. So everything he wrote had to be something that he heard from somebody. Tradition has it that he visited Jerusalem and that he talked to Jesus' mother Mary. So that's where he got a lot of the birth narrative from in chapters 1 and 2. And then we see, starting with the last part, where we are today, chapter 18, we go into the last really week of Jesus' life, with the holy week going into Jerusalem on a donkey and the crucifixion and resurrection.
Speaker 2:But the last chapter of Luke Luke 24, we'll get to in just a few minutes, I think has one of the most powerful leadership principles in the entire Bible and we'll get to that in just a few minutes, I think has one of the most powerful leadership principles in the entire Bible and we'll get to that in just a moment. So we'll just get to, you know, chapter 18. And so I had a quote because this applies to Luke, because he wasn't a Christian. He met Paul, he became a Christian, and so I think this is what applies to Luke, and I think God's desire would be it should apply to everybody, if we allow it, and this is it. A disciple is someone who has moved from being a recipient of the church's mission to being responsible for the church's mission.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so that explains Luke. Okay. I mean not only Luke, but it's a synopsis of Luke. So he received the good news of Christ. He accepted that. The good news of Christ. He accepted that, and then he personally, over time, became responsible for spreading that, and so he wrote the book of Luke. He wrote the book of Acts. We'll get to Acts here maybe in three or four months after we get through the gospel of John which is phenomenal in itself, but I think that's so.
Speaker 2:Let's just think. Just take that one statement for leadership. Okay, so you hire an individual. It could be your first hire, it could be your hundredth hire, it could be your thousandth hire. You don't want them to just be.
Speaker 1:Say that three times. Yeah, three times. Nice, you don't?
Speaker 2:want. Let's just say, a new employee is named Betty. You don't want Betty to just be a recipient of the benefits of the employment. You want her to be responsible for spreading the vision of the company. And so the question is a good leader knows how to do that. They know how to take a person in. They know how to bring them along, mentor them, do whatever they can so that that person is one of the biggest advocates for the company that you have. And that would be true for any employee. You want every employee to be an advocate for the company, not just an employee, not just there to get a paycheck, not just there to punch the time clock and then go back home. You want them to become an advocate for the mission. And so the question is how do you do that as a leader? That's a really good question.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and in my world, I mean, we call that employee engagement, right. We're looking for that person to be employee engaged and to be able to be an advocate for the company. Where the recruiter calls you and says, I'm going to offer you $2 more an hour, you know, most of the time they'll jump ship, you know, and you don't want that. What you want is somebody that's engaged that says no. I mean, why would I ever leave the best company in the world, right? Matter of fact, you need to send me all your people and start, you know, sending me so I can get them a job here because this is by far the best company. So that's what you want.
Speaker 1:You want that buy-in, and that comes straight from the leadership. It comes straight, you know, from from the principles. It comes from how you've set up the, the corporate feel, everything there. There's so many things that are involved in that employee engagement. But, but you got to make that person loyal. You know a lot of the things. You know it used to be back in the day that everybody was loyal to the company. Now it's literally it's J-O-B and a paycheck, right, and you got to figure out how to go above and beyond that.
Speaker 2:How to be loyal to the pay more than the paycheck right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:And I would say one of the reasons and I learned this years ago from John Maxwell, who's an incredible leader and teacher. He said this that people don't really care how much you know until they know how much you care. And so by just caring for your people, whatever that means, it could mean that, like during the summer, okay, during the summer we're going to get off at noon on Friday just because I want you to have a great weekend. I want you to come back refreshed. I don't want you to come back exhausted. Now, while you're here, those 36 hours, you're going to work hard, but everyone's going to get off. On Friday Comes Labor Day. We're going back to our normal schedule. So the question is how do you show the people that you care? And that's not true. It's not like one thing across the board. You need to know your people and know what makes them tick, and if you figure that out, you're going to have some very loyal followers. They're not just followers to you and loyal to you, they're going to be advocates for the mission.
Speaker 1:And I think that's really what good leaders are all about.
Speaker 2:Well, Dr Posey, I care for you. So we're going to cut this at 13 minutes, with no dad jokes, because we care for the people as well.
Speaker 1:We appreciate it. We'll see you next week. Bye-bye, okay, now that we're on dad jokes. We're on dad jokes, you know.
Speaker 2:So, my wife and I, we were just thinking the other day before we left for Houston.
Speaker 1:I know your wife was doing most of the thinking for you. Yeah, that's the truth. Like 99%.
Speaker 2:And so we had not seen the movie Wicked. Okay, we hadn't seen it and so we said, well, let's watch it. So we're watching the Wicked and I'm thinking to myself the whole time why didn't the actor who played the Tin man want to be in the movie? And I feel I guess he was just a little rusty. That's not true. You need the gong. You need the gong. No, it was all right, a little rusty. You need the gong, you need the gong.
Speaker 1:It was all right. It was all right. For a brief moment, I thought you were going to say John Wick.
Speaker 2:I'm like what Wicked? Yes, yes, I remember Wicked Wicked yeah, I thought they did really good on that remake, very creative storyline. I thought it was.
Speaker 1:I thought it did really good. That remake Very creative storyline I thought it was. I thought it did really good. I was a little apprehensive taking my daughter and kids and everything, but I think they did good. I think they made it where it flowed good, had a good story to it. I'm excited to see the second one, that they come out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know when their release date is.
Speaker 1:on that but, I've heard it's in the making and should be, sometime this year, so yeah, good, I thought they played with that one yeah they did.
Speaker 2:I think so, I think so.
Speaker 1:All right, so, mr Luke, here, yeah, I guess we should talk a little bit about Luke.
Speaker 2:I think we should.
Speaker 1:I mean we can do 19 and then call it good until next week. You know it's summer, we're coming wrapping down at the end of the summer here, but so yeah. So Luke 18, you know you talk about that, and tell me where we want to go.
Speaker 2:Okay, so here we have the very beginning of Luke 18. We see a parable about it's called the parable of the persistent widow, parable about it's called the parable of the persistent widow, and so she kept coming to this person and coming, coming, coming. And so the question, really one of the lessons, is how persistent are we in our faith? That's really the message that.
Speaker 2:Jesus is trying to get across. Do we allow things that happen in life and just things happen in life. Some things happen because of decisions we make, some that just happens. And are we going to allow things that happen in life to disrupt our faith journey, that we just give up? And this parable? Jesus said no, you need to be persistent in your faith. Faith is a journey and sometimes it's a difficult journey because of challenging things, sad things that happen in life. Are we gonna allow that to disrupt our faith? And so let's think about leadership. There's gonna be downtimes In every company. It could be because of market conditions, supply chain things. It could be personnel you're low on personnel. It could be whatever it could be and the question is are we persistently pursuing the mission? And that's really the leader's job to make sure that we're still focused on the mission.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's one of the things I put lead with persistence, not pressure. That's one of the things I can take out of Luke 18. You know, how do you, how do you do that? Stay humble, you know, even if, even when you're right, you know, and and it it has, it's had some good. You know it has some good meaning, you know, especially when you get into, you know, you know how many times have leaders, entrepreneurs and I could speak to hundreds that I've dealt with you know the crowd tries to silence you. Your family tries to silence you. You know, and a lot of the people have persevered, right, they've had persistence, they had that mission, you know, ultimately in their head and they strove, they strived to make that happen.
Speaker 2:Yes, and so even in down times, you still focus on the mission. Now, sometimes, when we focus on the mission, we become a slave to our job, and I don't think that's really good leadership, you know, putting in 24 hours a day or 20 hours a day, seven days a week eventually you're going to just burn out and you're not setting a good example for your people. And so you've got to keep a balance, and I haven't always been good at setting that example. Sometimes it's just there's a lot to do at work. No matter what job it is, there's just a lot to do, and it's a constant challenge to keep a balance in life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this summer as much as I'm in travel. It's a balanced opposite way of actually working. Yes, it's been a crazy summer or something.
Speaker 2:It's been a crazy summer or something. So after that parable, then we have a parable about a person that you know, a tax collector and a Pharisee, and the whole issue is you got to remain humble. You know, humility is just a key issue of a good leader, issue of a good leader, and I ran across this quote the other day from let me just pull that up because I thought it was really really good and it said this is from CS Lewis, who's a very famous author True humility is not thinking less of yourself, it's thinking of yourself less.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so the question is if you think of yourself less, then hopefully you're thinking of your employees more.
Speaker 1:Right yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's just a great thing. I'm going to repeat that. That's just a great thing. I'm going to repeat that True humility is not thinking less of yourself, it's thinking of yourself less. And that's from CS Lewis. So that's one of the lessons Jesus is trying to teach here in Luke 18. And I think it's a great lesson for good leaders you think of yourself less.
Speaker 1:Right yeah.
Speaker 2:So I like it's a great lesson for good leaders you think of yourself less Right. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, we like it. So then we get on to just some other parables and we're getting up to the point where Jesus is getting to the last week of his life. And then we come to maybe one of the most famous Vacation Bible School stories of all times in Luke 19, and that is Jesus and Zacchaeus. So if any of you went to Vacation Bible School when you were young, you probably learned a song about Zacchaeus and I won't sing it, believe me, come on, let's sing it.
Speaker 1:No, let's sing it. No, we're not going to sing it, but anyway, can you play a guitar to it? No, no.
Speaker 2:And so Zacchaeus was a tax collector and a very, very rich person, which would be normal back then. And Jesus was coming through the city of Jericho. The Zacchaeus was a small-statured man, a shorter person. He wanted to see Jesus, and so he climbs up in a tree. And when Jesus comes by, he looks up in the tree and says, hey, zacchaeus, come on down, I'm going to stay at your house today. So he invited himself over and Zacchaeus just has this transformation. And Zacchaeus, just has this transformation, says, hey, if I have defrauded anyone, I'm going to restore it. And so to me, the leadership lessons is sometimes you have to confront people but, he did it with grace and that really changed.
Speaker 2:Zacchaeus' life. So I know sometimes it's difficult to confront people on issues and some people have an easier job of doing that than others, because some leaders don't like conflict. But this is a good example of how to do it, because he was addressing Zacchaeus but he wasn't criticizing the person, and so sometimes we get into almost to a—not a shouting match, but it's just, we think, think we got to confront somebody and we go into it knowing it's going to be a negative experience. And sometimes they are okay, sometimes Sometimes they are.
Speaker 2:But my suggestion of having to do this unfortunately more times than I care to admit. It's good to write things down and do a self-evaluation of the person. So if you have a regular evaluations, then if someone comes in that you need to discipline or correct or let go or whatever, hopefully they don't see everything as a surprise because they've known that you have not been satisfied with what they're doing. Now sometimes somebody just does something and you have to confront them right then that might be a surprise. But if it's a long-term issue and you have to correct them, you can do that over time.
Speaker 2:Maybe you have an action plan for 90 days or something like that, and they know if they are living up to that or not living up to that, then they know in ahead of time the consequences of their behavior.
Speaker 1:Yeah, one of the things I made a note on this one is leaders confront what's broken, not just comfort what's familiar.
Speaker 2:Ooh, that's really good, and.
Speaker 1:I think that was a good statement.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know the only problem with that statement.
Speaker 1:What's that? I didn't think of it. You didn't think of it, I understand.
Speaker 2:No, that's really good. Could you repeat that again?
Speaker 1:for our listeners. That was really good. Leaders, confront what's broken, not just comfort what's familiar.
Speaker 2:Ooh, I like that a lot.
Speaker 1:I really like that and why I was over here looking down on my phone is.
Speaker 2:I was looking up the words of Zacchaeus.
Speaker 1:Zacchaeus was a wee little man. Uh-huh, a wee little man was he and he climbed up in a sycamore tree for the Lord he wanted to see.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I'll let our listeners sing it along, because you don't want me to sing it, but that is I can't say every Vacation Bible School years ago. I don't know if they sing it now, but that was like the number one song of VBS for decades.
Speaker 1:I can't wait to play it and listen to it to see if the lyrics you know I was reading, I was like did I do that? I bet you did. I'm sure we probably did right, I bet you did.
Speaker 2:Okay, and so we get to chapter 19, and at the end of chapter 19, verse 28,. We see, really it's Palm Sunday, so Jesus has the donkey, he's going into the city of Jerusalem and that really sets the tone for the last week of Jesus' life, right, and so we have the Sunday. He doesn't stay in Jerusalem, he goes to Bethany, but he's there Sunday, monday, tuesday we don't have a record of what happened on Wednesday but on Thursday he has the Last Supper with his disciples, then he's arrested that evening and then he's crucified on Friday. Now I don't know how many of our listeners have watched this series, the Chosen.
Speaker 2:If you haven't watched that, I encourage you don't start with season five. Okay, Because season five basically is this whole last week. It starts in Luke 19 and goes through almost the crux of it, right when Jesus is arrested. I would start in season one and just because then you see the characters building, you see the storyline building and it's just exceptionally well done. Season six, that's coming out sometime, hopefully, next year. It's actually being filmed in Italy and it's going to be the crucifixion.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that looks they've had just done a. Dallas Jenkins has done a phenomenal job, and so has the cast and the crew and the supporters, and it's just been a phenomenal thing. But I would encourage you at some point to watch that because it gives the backstory. So many things are not written in the Bible. It's like what happened during the day, what happened? I mean, jesus didn't go in and teach one lesson and leave, so what else could have been going on? What was going through the disciples' minds? What was happening during the Last Supper? What were they thinking? I mean, there's just brilliant writers doing that, and so I encourage them to do that.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, yeah, it's awesome. It's really really awesome. Luckily for me, I think I'm at season one, so it's good I won't skip ahead.
Speaker 2:Don't skip ahead yeah, but if you skip ahead you miss so much of the character development. Yeah, and so we're going to go through this. I'm just looking at the clock. We just have a few minutes left.
Speaker 1:You know we got next week. It's just the way it works with us.
Speaker 2:We could spend probably an entire podcast on chapter 24.
Speaker 1:We could and we might, because I mean we're pushing 30 minutes now.
Speaker 2:So I mean yeah.
Speaker 1:So I mean, you know, maybe maybe 20, I think we um, and and so, anyway, I'll just go through.
Speaker 2:So we have.
Speaker 1:He wants dad jokes. We have the arrest.
Speaker 2:we have the trial, we have the crucifixion, we have the resurrection. Now think about this Going back to what we said at the very beginning of this podcast Jesus' crucifixion. Luke was not present. The other disciples were present. Paul was not present. Luke was not present. The other disciples were present, paul was not present, luke was not present.
Speaker 2:So the account of the crucifixion that we see here in the gospel of Luke actually had to be told to him from somebody else. It could have been told from Paul, but if that's true, it could have been told from Paul. But if that's true, paul had to hear it from somebody else. And so the account and the details. And Luke was a physician, so he was very clear on the description of that, what that meant to the human body to do that. And so it was just amazing.
Speaker 2:And the one thing that I think is incredible is in Luke 23, verse 43. So here we have Jesus being crucified between two criminals. Okay, so if you're not familiar with that story, then that's why many times you see three crosses, because you have Jesus, and then you have the two criminals, one on each side. And so here in Luke 23, we see something we don't see anywhere else in the Bible, and that is the two thieves not just talking to one another, but one of the thieves, in verse 42 is talking to the other criminal and in verse 41 it says is talking to the other criminal. In verse 41, it says do you not fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? And we indeed justly, for we receive the due reward of our deeds, but this man has done nothing wrong. And then, in verse 42, we read this, a powerful statement, and he said Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom. And he said to him truly, this is Jesus, truly I say to you today you will be with me in paradise.
Speaker 2:Now, that's the only place in the Bible where we see that sentence. But to me, here is this man about to take his last breath, okay, and Jesus is offering hope about what's going to happen after he takes his last breath. So my question as far as leadership is how much hope are we giving our people? You know, sometimes, because of whatever challenges we have at work, the leader has to be very, uh careful not to get sucked into despair. Uh, sometimes it's difficult times, but even in difficult times, I think the leader's job is to still not to be Pollyannish, not to be fake, not to lie, not to, you know, do anything like that not to be untruthful, but to offer hope. And so different situations call for different types of hope, but I think that's one of the leader's main jobs is to offer hope.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we can go over and over in that. I mean, that's your job is to express where you want to take the company and where you want to go, how you're going to get there, you know, is it going to be always just the perfect scenario? No, but you know one of the biggest things communication. You know, and offer up those little carrots, you know those little bites, just to keep people going, because it's not. You look at all these companies that have done it, from Apple to Microsoft, all this. I mean they started out it was shoestrings.
Speaker 1:Right, I can think about my journey. You know, there's many a times I'm like I just could go get a corporate job and be very happy, you know, and, but you know you keep going and you do it. I think that's one of the things as a leader, that you have to have that vision. You have to have that vision, you have to have that drive and you have to know how to encourage them. You don't have to be a rah-rah person, but at least you have to put something out to give them a glimmer of hope, to know what's in your brain and what you're thinking and where the company's going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think that goes back to what we were saying earlier, and that is you got to know your people, because for some, hope might be more money, others might be job security, others might be you know what. Hey, take the rest of the week off. You have to know your people, to know what is going to be their need.
Speaker 1:What is their motivated? Yeah, why are they motivated? Yeah, what's their motivation? Yeah, I mean, if you don't know that, then there's no way to motivate them. I can offer money to everybody, but if he's all about family and spending time with the family and I need him to work the weekend and I throw big money at him, he's like I don't need that, right, that isn't what I'm here for no, I need just one more time with the family.
Speaker 2:So, going back, you know, trying to tie all that together, and I can see the clock we're not going to get to chapter 24, which is fine, because we can talk about that.
Speaker 1:next week We'll start at 19 next week, and we'll go through it again, right yeah? So why don't we just stop?
Speaker 2:there instead of going on any farther, so we can finish up with a few dad jokes.
Speaker 1:Okay, we can do that. Okay, yeah, do you happen to?
Speaker 2:have any dad jokes? No, I don't have any one dad joke. I've got about 4,000 dad jokes.
Speaker 1:This is his mission in this show is just to come up with dad jokes, right yeah?
Speaker 2:So you heard about the giraffe and the ostrich that had a 100-meter race.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was neck and neck to the very end. Alright, I like it you like that.
Speaker 2:Okay, so let's just come up with a. Let's just talk about you know a good Dak joke. Let's see.
Speaker 1:Uh-oh.
Speaker 2:He hesitated right, yeah.
Speaker 1:I hesitated.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so what do you call? This is Texas, so what do you call? Oh, we were at a mall in the woodlands over the weekend.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And we saw they had a security. You know how malls have these security officers in cars. No, these women were on horses. Nice, I thought wow, that is amazing, because you can really get after somebody if you're on a horse. Yeah, you can right, yes, so what do you call a happy cowgirl?
Speaker 1:Happy cowgirl? I don't know.
Speaker 2:A jolly rancher. I knew that one by gosh, I knew that one.
Speaker 1:So this weekend I went to one of my clients. We built him a big house and his whole goal since building this. He has a band and has to have a big festival and he had one this weekend. His whole goal, when we had the vacant lot there with the trees and the weeds, is he just wanted to have his band a place to practice.
Speaker 2:Is that the name of the band? Trees and Weeds?
Speaker 1:Yeah, trees that would be good, right, you know, actually it would be all right. But yeah, it's one of those things that he had a festival and he had like five bands and you know it was an all day event through the wee hours of the morning, and invited all the neighbors so nobody would get mad. Wow, and yeah, people came around, you know everywhere. But I was thinking about band names. They had some very unique band names. But I was thinking about band names. They had some very unique band names and I was thinking about what I would name a band if I had it, and I was thinking Plastic would be a good band name Plastic, yeah Plastic, but nothing would stick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they would be mostly a rap.
Speaker 2:A rap band. A rap band right oh. I still can't do this, okay, well, brother, yeah, we had fun, we had fun, we'll get to chapter 24 maybe 24, maybe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a possibility. So anyway, all right, we'll take us out, dr posy. All right, make a good day, all right, thank you.
