The Biblical Leadership Show
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Welcome to The Biblical Leadership Show, your go-to resource for discovering timeless truths from Scripture that empower leaders to inspire, influence, and impact their world. Hosted by Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey, this podcast takes a deep dive into the Bible’s profound lessons on leadership, bringing fresh perspectives to timeless principles that resonate in today’s fast-paced, ever-changing world.
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The Biblical Leadership Show
Walking with Jesus
The resurrection narrative in Luke's Gospel offers profound leadership wisdom that transcends time and culture. In this captivating episode, we unpack the final chapter of Luke, drawing out transformative leadership principles from Jesus' post-resurrection appearances.
When Jesus walked alongside two disciples on the road to Emmaus, he demonstrated the power of presence before revelation. Rather than immediately asserting his identity, he engaged them in conversation, taught from Scripture, and only revealed himself at the breaking of bread. This approach mirrors exceptional leadership today—walking alongside team members, imparting wisdom, and building relationship before exercising authority.
Perhaps the most striking leadership principle emerges when Jesus "acted as if he was going further." Great leaders consistently push beyond comfort zones, challenging the status quo while bringing others along. Many organizations stagnate because people cling to familiar processes and technologies, resisting innovation. Transformational leaders must constantly envision what lies beyond current limitations and inspire their teams toward growth.
We examine how Jesus calmed his disciples' fears with a simple "Peace to you" before giving them their mission. Today's workforce, particularly younger generations, needs to understand the "why" behind assignments. By addressing anxiety first and providing context for tasks, leaders create an environment where team members can focus and perform optimally. Concrete strategies for reducing workplace anxiety include establishing clear priorities and fostering collaborative team atmospheres.
A personal story about a lost wallet returned by a thoughtful restaurant manager illustrates how exceptional leadership manifests in simple acts of service and initiative. This manager's willingness to go beyond job requirements reveals character qualities that likely make him an outstanding leader within his organization.
As we conclude our five-week journey through Luke, we leave you with a powerful framework for leadership development. From "I do, you watch" to "you do, others watch," Jesus modeled a progressive approach to developing leaders who could carry forward the mission long after his departure. This sustainable leadership model ensures organizational growth beyond any single leader's tenure.
Ready to transform your leadership approach with these timeless principles? Let us know how these insights impact your leadership journey!
all righty, yeah, uh-huh, yeah, come on, come on, alrighty welcome, welcome, welcome, hey Tim Welcome. Another exciting episode of the Podcast of Luke.
Speaker 2:All rightiblical leadership show, but it's like Groundhog Day, right? Yeah, exactly, it is.
Speaker 1:I'm doing all right. You know it's continuing on with this August month. Wow, and your kids start school tomorrow. Start school tomorrow. They're not excited about that at all. I mean, I remember that it was always exciting to go back and see your friends, but pretty much other than that, that was it it took me about a month to get back into it, so I assume my kids will be about the same right, I get that from you, not your bride.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Right, I'm guessing. Yeah, she'd be okay with that. But yeah, so welcome. How was your week?
Speaker 2:Anything fun and exciting? No, it was good. No, same old, same old.
Speaker 1:Same old, same old. I understand it's the way it is.
Speaker 2:Sometimes that's just good though.
Speaker 1:It is good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You don't have to live on the edge every single day.
Speaker 1:No, Just six days a week. I've been back in town for like a week. Yes, this is incredible.
Speaker 2:That's good.
Speaker 1:I've been traveling a lot this summer and, yeah, I actually got some work done, caught up on some things and it's been a good week, so can't complain.
Speaker 2:That's really really good. But yeah, while we're talking about this Luke thing, but before we get into that, do you have any dad jokes? That's like asking if today is Tuesday. This man is dad joking.
Speaker 1:We need to do a full podcast on just dad jokes. I know you go viral on half your dad jokes, right, because these other people are doing it.
Speaker 2:You know, our second anniversary is coming up, the end of next month. I think on the 26th or somewhere around there, right, and so maybe we just need to dedicate the second anniversary show to dad jokes. It's sort of our.
Speaker 1:New Year's Eve dad jokes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so what?
Speaker 1:We now officially have two full shows on dad jokes. I don't know. We might be able to do that. We'll talk about it. We'll see what we can do some fun and exciting stuff, and see what we can do.
Speaker 2:So you know just here what three months ago came out with my second book, the Candlemaker, and it was making me think you went over the title pretty quick there. The Candlemaker One word, candlemaker, yeah. Went over the title pretty quick there. The Candle Maker One word, candle Maker, yeah.
Speaker 1:And this is a good book. The first one was about Noah right, which fit into this. And this one was the Candle Maker. Based on a series of dreams actually Sort of just channeled all that information and got it down on paper and came to fruition pretty fast.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so yeah, I'm excited about it. And historical romantic fiction that's the genre I love it you know it's exciting that people actually are reading it and staying awake.
Speaker 1:Yeah, as far as we know, well, at least one person stayed awake, yeah.
Speaker 2:At least through 20 pages yes, okay, and least through 20 pages yes, okay.
Speaker 1:And she's married to him.
Speaker 2:Everyone else I say, hey, if you have insomnia, pick up the book.
Speaker 1:I downloaded it on my iPad, so I actually have it on my iPad.
Speaker 2:Well, good, I just haven't started reading it.
Speaker 1:I've got to admit that.
Speaker 2:But I've been traveling, so I'm in all fairness, don't start from the back. Don't start from the back. No, don't start from the back.
Speaker 1:I'm waiting for the Cliff Notes version to come out. No, not really, I'm going to read that thing.
Speaker 2:Okay. So anyway, over the last couple of weeks we've been talking to people about the book and it made me think about my first book on Noah and I never really thought about this, okay. And someone asked me well, you know, on the Ark there were two of everything, right, two of everything. And I said yes, and so they said, well, where did Noah keep his bees?
Speaker 1:His bees huh.
Speaker 2:And I thought about it and finally he told me the answer in his archive. And finally he told me the answer in his archive. I was really thinking hard on that one, because I hadn't heard that one. I was like what is that one? I hadn't heard it either.
Speaker 1:That was pretty good, especially on the Noah one there, so I like it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you know I was trying to come up with a dad joke on measuring distance.
Speaker 1:You know, yes, but this is as close as I could get a dad joke on measuring distance.
Speaker 2:You know, yes, but this is as close as I could get.
Speaker 1:I almost got that one on you, but you know I went with the other one.
Speaker 2:So it's good yeah. So you know if you've been following the last month.
Speaker 1:That's true, this is the fifth week on Luke. On Luke. Now, we did say at the very beginning of this this was Dr P's favorite book of the Bible. So you know, you knew we were going to spend some time on it, but five weeks. I have a prediction today.
Speaker 2:We're going to finish. We're going to finish.
Speaker 1:Because we've got chapter 24 left.
Speaker 2:That's it.
Speaker 1:That's it, chapter 24.
Speaker 2:I think we're going to get done today. Yeah, and chapter 24, I think verse 28,. I think is one of the greatest leadership principles in the entire Bible. So we'll get to that I like it, maybe next week, no, so let's just get right into it. We're in chapter. Well, we need to, so we can make sure we finish right, exactly right, it's cutting into our dad joke time talking about Luke the whole time, right?
Speaker 1:Yes, it's all right, I like Luke. Good name.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a good name. And so the end of chapter 23,. We see that, well, in chapter 23, jesus is crucified, and then at the end of chapter 23, he is buried in the tomb Right. And so that was on a Friday. The next day was the Sabbath or Saturday Right.
Speaker 2:And so that was on a Friday. The next day was the Sabbath or Saturday, right, and nothing could be done from sundown on Friday to sundown on Saturday, I mean. So people stayed home. They were Jewish, they observed the Sabbath just like they would normally historically do Sabbath just like they would normally historically do.
Speaker 2:But it says at the very end of chapter 23 that as Jesus was being buried by Joseph of Arimathea, the women followed, and we see this in several other places in the Bible. The women were curious and they wanted to know where Jesus was being buried, because they wanted—it was a cemetery there, and so there were several graves and the grave wasn't like a hole in the ground like we have now. It was a cave and it was covered up with a large round stone. But there were many of those in that area, so they wanted to know which one actually was Jesus, so they could go, as we do now. We go to the grave of people that we love and we just sit there and think about them, and we'd just sit there and think about them. So these women wanted to know which grave was Jesus being buried in, so they could go on the day after the Sabbath, which would have been Sunday and grieve for him as their friend and as their Messiah.
Speaker 1:Let me ask you a question on that Just sort of came to my head Was this a special one? They put on a special tomb, or was there multiple people in this tomb, just him? I was just sort of curious. I never really thought about that.
Speaker 2:It was a new tomb never been used. And so, but Joseph of Arimathea, and he asked Pilate for Jesus' body, and so it was the custom to take linen and wrap, put the linen and spices and wrap the body, and so that's what Jesus did. It was late in the day on Friday, they couldn't do it on Saturday, so they were doing that because they had to do it in a hurry, so they wrapped him up in the linen cloth. If you're familiar with the story of the Shroud of Turin, if you're not, I encourage you to just Google Shroud of Turin or look it up online. Fascinating story about that.
Speaker 2:Many people believe that that was actually the barrier cloth of Jesus. If it's not, there's a lot of explaining that needs to be done because there's so many similarities. Anyway, so you would wrap the body in this linen cloth and then you would place them in the tomb, and so that's what happened on that Friday and they put him in the tomb, they rolled the stone away, and then that was the end of Friday. The women were wanting to go to see and mourn over their friend and their Messiah, and so the women went there, and when they got there, the stone had been rolled away. They saw two angels this is according to the Gospel of Luke and the angels talked to them, and so they go back to the what happened. And then so we see that Peter ran to the tomb and Initially they thought it was all nonsense, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, they saw A lot of the people. It's like what happened? Someone stole the body, yeah, whatever they thought what are you talking about?
Speaker 2:Even though Jesus had told them this was going to happen, it didn't really compute.
Speaker 2:Because they're still in sorrow, they're still grieving, they are still in grief, and so let's just talk about that for just a minute. Grief takes different forms in different people, and it takes different amounts of time in different people, and so just think about a good leadership principle If someone in your organization lost a spouse or a child or a parent and you know about it which you probably would one of the really amazing personal things to do is to put that on your calendar. So six months later, a year later, you can actually either write that person a note Sometimes the one-year anniversary is people are just that's a really hard grieving day and you might come up to one of your employees and say you know, I know, next Thursday is the one-year anniversary of your husband's passing. Would you like to be off that day? I mean, wow, what a compassionate thing that is.
Speaker 2:And it tells that employee, that person really does care about me, and so that would be one of the things that you can do as a leader to let people know that you really care. And if you did that with a person, you're not going to do it, so it gets around, but it's going to get around, okay. And so maybe or maybe, if that's not possible, maybe as a staff you can do something for that person on that day. You know, take them to lunch or give them flowers, something, okay, just to show that you care and that you are acknowledging the grieving process, because grief for some people they get over that very quickly. It's not an uncommon thing to take a year or two to really go through the grieving process of losing a loved one like that, and so that would be very normal, and so, by a leader, being compassionate during that season of someone's life is just really an exceptional thing to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's awesome. So, yeah, and I, you know we talked about this last week is that leaders, you know people want to work for people. They buy into, you know, and there's they don't want to just have like a robot working there, you know, and somebody that just harbors space, right, you know, barks, orders, and one of the big things, you know, you have to have the positives and the negatives as well. So anything you can do to get on the positive side, you know, because a lot of times, you know, you have to be the hard boss, you have to discipline people, you have to tell them that we have things that have to be accomplished before we leave that night, you know I run into this with some of my employees, right, you know, I'm like we're doing this for the end of the day.
Speaker 1:You know I got plans. I'm like, well, you should have thought about that prior to getting done, because I said we're going to be done today and apparently you didn't do what you needed to do at the beginning of the morning, so we're going to stay late and sorry, but we'll make that up tomorrow, but this will be done before we leave tonight or there'll be consequences. It's simple as that you know, and but at the same time you know the next day, you know, you know you had a family stuff want to do. Why don't you take off a little bit early tonight, you know, cause we're caught up now, and but I mean that's, that's part of that, that give and take as leaders.
Speaker 2:Correct, and so that just gets around. It's important, though. If you do that for one person, you've got to be sensitive. What can I do to be fair to other people? Yes, you don't want to show favoritism. You're thinking about growing up in elementary school the teachers always had a favorite student. You don't want to be known as a boss that has a favorite employee.
Speaker 1:Did they? I didn't know about this. I never was on that list. I never knew about this. I was never on the list.
Speaker 2:So anyway, then we get after that in the resurrection story. We're at the same day, it's that Sunday.
Speaker 2:And one of the most amazing stories in the Bible is here in Luke, chapter 24, beginning with verse 13. And that is it's only found in the Gospel of Luke. And that is two men were walking from Jerusalem to a little town called Emmaus, about seven miles away from Jerusalem, and it was in the afternoon. They were walking and all of a sudden Jesus appears with them and he walks along and they're just having this conversation and Jesus then begins. It says he explains to the Scripture everything about himself, which is like wow, that would have been an amazing lesson.
Speaker 1:Right, wouldn't it have Right there?
Speaker 2:yes, and so Jesus shared about himself, he shared about the Scripture. And then they get to this little town. Okay, and that's where these two men were going. Little town, okay, and that's where these two men were going. But there is a very powerful lesson here, in verse 28, and I'll just read it. It says so they drew near to the village to which they were going. That's these two men. Jesus acted as if he was going farther, but they urged him strongly, saying Stay with us, for it is toward evening and the day is now far spent. So he went in to stay with them.
Speaker 2:Now let's just talk about the leadership principle of that.
Speaker 2:Jesus was going further was going further, I think it's the leader's job to always try to take the organization to the next step, and it's not an uncommon thing for some people to stay where they are. I just want to stay here. I'm comfortable, this is familiar. Don't interrupt the apple cart. And no, I don't want to upgrade to Windows 11 because I'm familiar with Windows 10, even though it's not going to be supported anymore. I don't want to do any. I don't want to learn anything new. I don't want to.
Speaker 2:And so I think part of the leader's job is to always be thinking about where can I take my organization, where can I take my people to the next level? Right, and that could be with individual people. It could be do I need to send them to a class to learn a computer skill? Do I need to take them to a class to learn anger management? Do I need to take them to hospitality something? What can I do to improve the individuals, to take them to hospitality something? What can I do to improve the individuals, to take them to the next level? And then, what can I do for myself, to take myself and the company to the next level? And so I think a good leader sees that constantly, they're constantly thinking about the next chapter, and how do we get to that point?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and there's a lot of good principles in here, and one of the things I saw in this is, you know, when he was walking there, he didn't correct them. He didn't, you know, he just had a conversation.
Speaker 1:He explained and I thought that was really good. And then they didn't really recognize him until he started breaking bread, because it was a normal an act, that they'd seen him before and they sort of recognized him and it led me to believe one of the things is teach before you reveal. And it always takes me back to that undercover boss show, right.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Where he would go in and some of these big companies. They don't really know who that is. And he just works, he's working in there and incognito and everything, and that's sort of what I sort of saw. This, as you know, sort of undercover boss. Jesus was sort of undercover just walking with them, talking to them, and all this, and then, at the very thing, there's a big reveal in the breaking bread.
Speaker 2:Hey, I'm your boss, you know I'm your savior and all that.
Speaker 1:So I sort of thought that when I was doing my show prep that's sort of how I saw some of this stuff going down.
Speaker 2:So let's just take what you just said and look at it from a different perspective. Yeah, because I think what you said is such a valuable thing. Jesus, he is the creator. You know. He's the Creator, he's the Savior, he's the Messiah, and he's resurrected in bodily form, and yet he spent time with common people and he loved it. And so the question is how much time do we, as leaders, spend with our people? Are we always busy because we're in office taking care of paperwork? Do we are, if we're, you know, in charge of a manufacturing thing? Are we on the floor with our people? Do we know their names? Do they know us If we walk in the floor? Do they know you know if we're a manager of a restaurant? Right, do they know who we are? So let me just fill in what I've shared. Two weeks ago, I lost my wallet.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right, the wallet On a bike ride yes, On a bike ride. And so I got a and it was don't ever lose your wallet. It's not a pleasant experience. You have to go get a new driver's license, insurance cards, you have to cancel your credit cards, get new ones. It's not a good thing, okay. So I went through all of that. I drove, I got my new driver's license, all that kind of stuff. I got my new driver's license, all that kind of stuff. So just the other day I got a Facebook message from someone who I've never met, named Andrew, and he said hey, we have your wallet here at a restaurant down in Fort Worth and someone turned it in to us and it's been sitting here on my desk and the amazing thing about it is this guy. Obviously, my driver's license is there when you first open it up. He took the time to look me up on Facebook and then he messaged me.
Speaker 2:And then he messaged me and so it was like how nice. I mean, he went out. He didn't have to do it, he could have just tossed it in the trash. You know it's like forget it, but he took the time and I'm hoping to meet him. I was there on Sunday picking up my wallet. And so I walk in and I knew he wasn't going to be there okay, because I had messaged him back and forth and I said, hey, I'm going to be there Sunday afternoon. Are you going to be there? He said no, I'm going to be working the morning shift.
Speaker 2:And so I walk in and the two women who were there at the hostesses, I said, is Andrew in? And both of them said no, he's not in right now. And I said, well, he gave me a message that he has my wallet in his office and they asked my name. But here's the thing they knew the manager's name. They knew that he wasn't there. I mean, they knew. And so it's like so obviously this Andrew guy, um, took the time to know his people. And then, not just that he took the time to do something, that I just am very thankful that he took the time I don't know how long it took to look me up, message me and make sure that I got my wallet back.
Speaker 2:And I was just very, very thankful. I was just very, very thankful that that happened and I'm just thankful to him and the people down in Fort Worth and it was just a great experience. And so, if you're in Fort Worth, the Woodshed Smokehouse is where that happened and it's over on Riverfront Drive. The Woodshed Smokehouse is where that happened and it's over on Riverfront Drive, just off University and Riverfront Drive. And so, anyway, I just say a big shout out to Andrew and the Woodshed Smokehouse for making that happen and I'm just very thankful. I'm excited you got your wallet back. That's great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm very excited, but I'm thinking you got your wallet back, that's great. Yeah, I'm very excited.
Speaker 2:But I'm thinking what a great manager, leader he is to go out of his way to do something for somebody, and it's like what a great leadership principle. Are we willing to just go out of our way for our customers, for our employees, or are we just, no, we're just going to be here 9 to 5, 8 to 5, whatever, 7 to 3, whatever and just do what's got to be done and if there's something, just forget it.
Speaker 2:I'm not going out of my way to do anything, and they just told me a lot about him, his character, his integrity and his organization, and I bet he's a really good person to work for.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the first thing you're going to do is go get a copy of that picture of you and your bride and you're going to put that somewhere safe in case you.
Speaker 2:It's on my dresser, so I won't lose it again. There you go. I don't want to ever lose my wallet again. It's down to one or two things when you travel now on the bike, right, that's it. That's it.
Speaker 1:As little as possible, it's a good story that you ended up hitting the end of that and finding that wall. Yeah, that was very, very sad, because we were apprehensive on that.
Speaker 2:I know it, I know it and so okay, so let's pick it up back with Luke. So this happened in Emmaus. The guys go back, they run back to Jerusalem, they tell the disciples what happened and then, all of a sudden, jesus just appears in the room.
Speaker 1:And he says peace to you.
Speaker 2:So in the midst of their fear, in the midst of their concern and they were afraid for their life, I mean, here the Romans had just crucified their leader, right, and so it's like we're probably next. So there was some fear, there was a lot of anxiety, a scaredness, and Jesus comes in and just says, hey, peace. And so it's just like, wow, what a great leader. He's just saying, hey, let's just calm down here, let's focus. And we see in the book of Matthew he gives them the mission about making disciples, but in this particular chapter, jesus is just being present and calming their fears.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because ultimately, I mean, what it says, you know, is he shows him his wounds and he eats with them and talks about the scripture and everything, but then he ultimately was there to give them their mission, right? You know what are you trying to do and that's where I sort of brought you know, when you're talking about the piece that he brought in, there is, you know, a lot of times in a business setting. You know you got to settle that anxiety, you know, before giving that assignment, you know why are we doing this? Especially today's generation, they want to know the why behind things, not just go do it.
Speaker 1:You know generations have passed. You know, go do it, all right, sir, I'll get it done. But now it's a little bit of why do you want to get it done? What's the purpose behind this? Where are we trying to accomplish it? And if you can give a little bit more details, that's just going to settle that anxiety and that's, you know, it's going to make the assignment a little bit more focus-driven, you know, and they'll have a little bit more desire to do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So let's talk about, as a leader, what can we do to lower the level of anxiety in our people? Okay, and there's a list. I won't share all of them, but here's one of them A lack of priorities. If we don't have priorities, if each person doesn't know what they're supposed to do today, tomorrow I mean they don't have an A list, a B list, a C list they're supposed to do today, tomorrow, I mean they don't have an A list, a B list, a C list, If they can just do whatever and then they realize, oh, maybe I'm not doing the right thing.
Speaker 2:So I think one of the leader's job is to make sure everybody knows that they have priorities, they have deadlines, they have a timeline. There's expectations, and sometimes we think that expectations on people will create anxiety. No, it doesn't. It actually lowers anxiety. So that's one of the things as a lack of priorities. And then the other thing is that there's creates anxiety is if we feel we have to do everything ourselves, and so part of a leader's job, I think, is to create a team atmosphere.
Speaker 2:So if you need help, you have people that you can go to to actually help you with your deadline, your job. Now I'm not saying hey, it's 4.30 on Friday afternoon and this was due before the end of the day and then you go to somebody no, If you know you have a deadline by 5 o'clock on Friday, you might need to go to them on Monday and say, hey, I might need your help, Let me work on this. Let's get together tomorrow if you have some time, or Wednesday at the latest, so we can work on this. Let's get together tomorrow if you have some time, or Wednesday at the latest, so we can work on this together. So if you're just kind of waiting for inspiration or you're trying to do everything yourself, that can just create a lot of anxiety. So those are just two things that I think a good leader can do to help lower anxiety in their people.
Speaker 1:Right. I think that's great. You know, and one of the things I pulled out of that in my notes here is you know, when he was doing, he said you are the witness. You are witnesses, go to all nations. You know, and I pulled out of that as a leadership lesson of leaders must define the why, the what and the who of the mission, and I think that's one of the things that Jesus did in this time. He sort of said here's what we're here to do and this is why we're doing it. And that's, you know, here's your direction.
Speaker 2:And after the resurrection and right before the ascension, in those 40 days, days, jesus was very good about not condemning them for their shock. I mean, you know their shock. Oh, what he said was actually true. You know he was saying hey, you know, I told you this, this is what's happened. Now we go to the mission, let's get after the mission, and I am going to send you a helper, which we see in the book of Acts, that's going to help you with that mission. And so you're right, they had a mission, they had a what, they had a why, and that's just really, really good leadership.
Speaker 1:So the ascension right. Did you pull any good leadership out of that one? And I know that we're running down here at the end of the show and we got dad jokes to do I understand right.
Speaker 1:So one of the things that I pulled out of the Ascension and I just wanted to get it before we end the show is trust others to carry the torch.
Speaker 1:You know, he didn't, he didn't over explain, he didn't hover, he just he sort of left a promise and then he turned over authority. And then it's what I sort of tie into a lot of times. I teach him my leadership things is, if somebody set the point where we do this big exercise, where we go through all your people, depending on if they're in the stage where they just need to be coached or trained or they need supervision, but if you hit the top thing, somebody that's being empowered, and you've hit that point where they're empowered, you don't want to micromanage, you want to give them the big picture, you want to send them on the mission and then let them go and do their own thing, let them learn their lessons, give them full power to sign on the dotted line for your name. And give them full power to sign on the dotted line for your name. And that's one of the things that we try to do is trust others to carry on, to be able to do things right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so the steps of training others to be leaders. We've said this before, but I'm going to repeat it because this is a really good topic. So this is what happened in Jesus he did it, they watched, then they talked about it. Okay, and then the next step was Jesus did it, then they helped because he sent them out, you know, he sent them the 70, he sent the disciples up two by two, and then they came back and talked about it. And then the next step is okay, you go do it and I help, and then we talk. And then you do and I watch and we talk.
Speaker 2:And now here is the point of the ascension, where you're going to go do it and someone else is going to watch, because it's not just about you. You need to be sure that you're training the next generation, and that's what good leaders do. They don't just train for training a person, they train for generations. So you want to train the next person so they can train the next person, and that's what Jesus was doing, and that's just great leadership, Great leadership.
Speaker 2:Yeah great, so we finished Luke.
Speaker 1:We finished Luke. Wow, wow yeah.
Speaker 2:That's fantastic.
Speaker 1:That is great, that's really fantastic yeah.
Speaker 2:So you had some dad jokes you wanted to share.
Speaker 1:No, mine were horrible. I hadn't found any good ones.
Speaker 2:So what is a cow?
Speaker 1:You've got the master list.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do?
Speaker 1:He's got one, two, three, four, five six things in front of him.
Speaker 2:He's ready to go. So what is a cow's favorite TV show?
Speaker 1:Oh, I think I've heard this one before, but I do not remember it.
Speaker 2:Grey's Anatomy.
Speaker 1:I've never heard that one.
Speaker 2:Grey's Anatomy.
Speaker 1:I had not yeah.
Speaker 2:And so you know I'm not really a fish. I like to go fishing but I'm not really a good fisherman. I catch sticks and stumps okay. But, when you catch a fish? Why is it so easy to weigh fish?
Speaker 1:How? Why is it so easy?
Speaker 2:to weigh fish. To weigh fish? Yes, yeah, I do not know, because they come with their own scales.
Speaker 1:All right, I'll give you some of that A half a clap.
Speaker 2:We need to have like a half a clap. I know.
Speaker 1:We need the like golf clap right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what we need. Yeah, exactly right. And so we've said this before, but it's been many, many months ago. So what do you call a reluctant potato?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:A hesitator? Yeah, okay, yeah Okay speaking yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, speaking of animals, I just got to get some better stuff over here. I'm going to do some show front. Next time I'm ordering a whole bunch of bad dope books.
Speaker 2:Why are pigs such bad drivers?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Because they always hog the road. I'll give you that one. That was good. I like that, okay.
Speaker 1:Well, I think we're done. See, you're just retired, you have all this time to spend on dad jokes.
Speaker 2:I have all this time, 25 hours a day. I do show prep.
Speaker 1:I get everything that's done. I got a lot of stuff on my side. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.
Speaker 2:Next week I'll have some dad jokes, I will do some stuff. And John, we're talking about the gospel of John. John, what?
Speaker 1:Oh my goodness, you sure don't want to go back and start Luke you know, do another five weeks about Luke.
Speaker 2:We could do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean there's a lot of stuff that we could have even went down a rabbit hole here and kept going on it.
Speaker 2:But John 1, oh my goodness, john 1 is one, one of the most brilliant let's just say things ever written in human history. Awesome, just the very first part, the first 18 verses Just incredible. So anyway, yeah, so we look forward to seeing you next week. Tell some friends about the Biblical Leadership Show podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, hit us up there, biblicalleadershipshowcom, check us out, send us some dad jokes. I need some dad jokes.
Speaker 2:Send me some dad jokes, so I can have some arsenal over here next week.
Speaker 1:I'm going to come prepared, I'm going to go and do some show prep. I'm going to have a few dad jokes. I'll have a few hundreds. Yeah, you got hundreds. I do literally, yeah, literally. Alright, dr Pete, take us out. Hey, make it a great day, thank you.
