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Sheep, Shepherds, and CEOs: What John 10 Teaches Us

Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey Season 4 Episode 95

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What makes someone a true leader rather than just a person with authority? Drawing from the rich metaphor of Jesus as the Good Shepherd in John Chapter 10, we unpack powerful leadership principles that transcend time and context.

The shepherd imagery provides a fascinating framework for modern leadership. Just as shepherds in ancient Israel would sleep in the entrance of the sheepfold—becoming the literal gate through which sheep passed—great leaders serve as filters for their organizations. They discern what influences, ideas, and attitudes should enter, while protecting against harmful elements.

This episode explores how effective leaders balance quick decisions with thoughtful deliberation, understanding which issues deserve extensive processing and which can be handled efficiently. We share real-world examples of companies that failed because leaders refused to innovate, contrasting them with organizations that thrived by embracing necessary change.

Perhaps most compelling is our discussion about promise-keeping. Through a personal story about a father who made a casual promise to his young son about hiking Pike's Peak—only to discover a year later that the boy had been secretly training for the adventure—we illustrate how leadership credibility is built or destroyed on the foundation of integrity. As we note, "Once you get in the habit of breaking promises, it takes a long, long time to overcome that mindset in the eyes of your people."

Whether you're leading a corporation, a small team, a family, or simply yourself, these timeless principles from John 10 offer a roadmap for leadership that earns trust, inspires loyalty, and creates lasting impact. Listen now to discover how being a "good shepherd" can transform your leadership approach.

Speaker 1:

uh-huh now, yeah, uh-huh, yeah, come on, come on, alrighty, welcome, welcome, welcome.

Speaker 2:

Welcome Tim.

Speaker 1:

How you doing, how are we doing today?

Speaker 2:

I am doing fantastic.

Speaker 1:

Man just well into October. Now I mean, wow, we're just flying through. It's crazy.

Speaker 2:

It's crazy how fast this year's gone.

Speaker 1:

It's going to be Halloween here in another what you know, 10 days, yes. So, it's crazy.

Speaker 2:

It's going really fast, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

You going to go dressed up for Halloween's?

Speaker 2:

Halloween no.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I haven't decided yet. I love Halloween. I love dressing up and running around town.

Speaker 2:

It's been a while for me, but now I run around with my kids now. I still get dressed up because they love it. That's just fun. Yeah, it's just fun, right? Well, it's like someone a long time ago said you have a great face for radio, so I guess I don't need to get dressed up for Halloween. Let's see when is it oh no, there it is, there it is, yeah. Yeah, I understand you, doing good yeah, doing good yeah just been staying busy, busy, busy busy.

Speaker 1:

Yes, that's all right, we like busy.

Speaker 2:

Busy, busy. You know, some people are busy, but they're not productive. Yes, you are both. Yes.

Speaker 1:

It. It's called the busyness epidemic, but B-U-S-Y Busy. That's the person when you ask them how are you doing? Oh man, I'm busy, I'm just so swamped, I'm just so busy. Yeah, I just literally am just so swamped and so busy, for reals.

Speaker 2:

We both work with people who are extremely busy, but they don't ever get anything done.

Speaker 1:

I know I'm not even going to say too much because I know people listen to this, but I mean I hear him talk and I'm like I know your job, responsibility at your office, I know what you do and you're really that busy. I question it sometimes, but that's okay.

Speaker 2:

But that goes right into leadership.

Speaker 1:

But it's all perception, right, it's all perception. You're busy and my busy might be two different things. Right, and my norm is still busy, but it's my norm. And for other people coming into my world they'd be like wow, wow.

Speaker 2:

You go in 20 different directions. My accelerator doesn't go that fast, right Exactly.

Speaker 1:

But it's my norm, I enjoy it, it keeps me. I don't like idle time, I like going. I mean, don't get me wrong, I enjoy. I have a lot of idle time with my kids and run around doing stuff. Don't get me wrong when I say I'm not in all work, but when I'm working, I'm working.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, when you're working, you're all in. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

And so that goes right into what we're going to talk about today leadership from the book of John. I cut you off on the leadership you know you started to shoe? Does a frog wear?

Speaker 1:

I'm reaching for my button over here.

Speaker 2:

Let's see what kind of shoe does a frog wear Open toed?

Speaker 1:

of course Nice Iing to Open toad of course. Nice, I love it. You got another one there. No, well, yes, but he's got 500 of them sitting in front of him Several years ago, my wife asked me if I thought our kids were spoiled.

Speaker 2:

And I said no, I think all kids smell like that Sort of.

Speaker 1:

What kind of milk comes from a pampered cow Spoiled milk.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know, the other night I was on my computer, yes, and I was looking up ice cream jokes, just to have some ice cream dad jokes, but then my computer froze.

Speaker 1:

Knew where that one was going. Hey, if you're not familiar with us, we talk a little bit about biblical, we talk a little bit about leadership, and we do throw in a lot of dad jokes just because we like it.

Speaker 2:

We can.

Speaker 1:

We can, and we decided that's what we're going to do to entertain ourselves, because I mean with all our three listeners, all right we've got lots of listeners, yes, and all over the country now.

Speaker 2:

All over the country, yeah, yeah, it's so fun Over the pond and all kinds of different places, and we're into our third year now.

Speaker 1:

Third year.

Speaker 2:

It's crazy third year now. Third year. It's crazy, it's crazy. So do you want to give a little?

Speaker 1:

synopsis of where we've been in the last year. Last year, I mean, we've been working through the book of John. Yes, we have.

Speaker 2:

I think this is our 12th week on the book of John.

Speaker 1:

We'll be with you for another couple of weeks on the book of John.

Speaker 2:

We're only with you for another couple weeks on the book of John we're only on chapter 10, but I think this is week 7 or 8 on the book of John. Yeah, it's all right.

Speaker 1:

No, I mean if you've been following us or if you're new or if you haven't. We've been going through all the books of the Bible, started with the Old Testament and worked through that and now we're going through the New Testament. It was funny because the Old Testament we could lump a lot of them together because it was short. But now we're getting into the chapters where it's a lot of information, a lot of key stuff in the Bible and we just can't rush through it because I mean we've got to really emphasize some of these points and really just make sure people are getting the leadership principles out of it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so let's just pause right there and talk about the leadership principle you just mentioned. And that is rushing. Okay, sometimes you have to hurry through things, but sometimes you don't. I mean you have to really process, you have to sit down and think about it and get the information you need. And if it's a small decision I mean leaders make hundreds of decisions a day right, and sometimes leaders make the mistakes that every decision gets equal amount of brain time and a good leader realizes no, this decision right here has significant more consequences.

Speaker 2:

So I'm going to process it. I might not make it today or I might make it by 5 o'clock this afternoon. I'm not going to make it instantaneously and I think that is a learned skill. But it's also good to have other people around you when you're learning that skill to say, hey, what do you think about this? Or get two or three people around, what do you think about this? Or your staff. But some decisions you can just make, you know, like your tight face on your newsletter or this or that or whatever. But if it's a new logo, you know we've seen companies lately make some decisions about logos and they have to backtrack on that and some decisions, and so it's like well, you know, maybe those kind of big decisions that are more public, involve more people, just take a little bit longer.

Speaker 1:

So rushing sometimes is good, but sometimes it's not, it is, and at the same time it's the opposite too. Sometimes people get hung up on all the details. I mean think of I don't know Malachi, if we could have spent like seven weeks on Malachi.

Speaker 2:

We could have.

Speaker 1:

But I mean, he is the last prophet of the Old Testament.

Speaker 2:

But here's one of the I think one of the mistakes some leaders make. They try to please everybody. Yeah, and you can't please everybody, you just can't. And so you've got to think about okay, if I'm the leader, if I'm the CEO, if I'm being paid to make decisions, there's going to be some decisions that I make that people are not going to like.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, so okay. Then the question is what do I do, knowing that? Do I just make them? Do I sit down with the people that I know are not going to like the decision I make? Do we process that? Do we have a conversation about it? I know I've made some decisions and then I realized in talking with some people that you know that wasn't a good decision. So you have to backtrack and change your mind, and I just think that is a good habit to get into is to listen to the people that maybe disagree with you, because they literally could have the right opinion and you've made a wrong decision. So trying to please everybody is not always good, but listening to people after and before making a decision is always good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, 100%. Yeah, got to give an ear if you want to get that team built.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and so we're going to move into John, chapter 10 today.

Speaker 1:

John, chapter 10.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and John chapter 10 is a very unique chapter in the Bible because Jesus talks about being the shepherd. He's talking about being the gate. There's lots of symbolism in this particular chapter and a lot of good information. Preachers use this a lot to talk about shepherding their people and there's a lot of good leadership principles, particularly in this particular chapter. And so let's just start at the very beginning of the chapter, and it'll probably take us this podcast to go through John chapter 10. But at the very beginning, Jesus talking about being the door of the sheepfold and let me just give a kind of historical background to that. Many times in Israel the fences back then were made out of stone because sheep don't naturally jump, because sheep don't naturally jump.

Speaker 2:

And so they would build a stone fence and a pen and they would keep their sheep there at night. In the daytime they would go out, but the shepherd's job was to protect the sheep and to keep any wolves or anything from that. And so what a great leadership principle. Part of the job of the leader is to confront any adversaries that might come in. It could be another company, it could be an attitude, it could be a work ethic.

Speaker 2:

There's all kinds of things that could begin to bring problems to let's just use the example here to the sheep, to your employees, to your workers to your co-workers, to your team, a lot of issues and I believe that the leader's job is to see those coming and to try to deal with them before they actually get there. Now, sometimes you just can't get them all, okay, but a good leader realizes hey, there's something wrong, let's address that so we can get that right off the bat from John, chapter 10.

Speaker 1:

Right yeah. So what was the story about the shepherd and the sheep?

Speaker 2:

Okay. So when they made a sheep fold or a sheep pen, let's just say you had a hundred sheep or more than that, but you had a round or a square pen made out of rock at a certain height, but there was an opening where there were no rocks and it was a custom for the shepherd to actually sleep in that opening. Oh, really yes to sleep in that opening. So if the sheep were going to go out, they actually had to step on the sheep.

Speaker 2:

Oh nice and the shepherd would wake up. Sometimes there'd be more than one shepherd, so they'd take turns, but if they were going to go out and then in the morning the shepherd would get up and all the sheep would go out. At night they would come back in. So that's the symbolism of this chapter, and Jesus says I am that person that lays there, I'm the door, I'm the keeper of the sheep. And so to me, what a great leadership principle he's talking about. If there's anything that's going to go in and out of the company, good or bad, it needs to come through me. And that's what was Jesus saying and I think that's what leaders do is they are the filter through which things come in and out of the company.

Speaker 2:

Now they can't. I mean, you might have an employee that has a great idea, you know. And so just think if you worked for a car company and you were working on the line. If you worked for a car company and you were working on the line, okay, you installed windshields or you installed door handles or whatever, and all of a sudden you had a great idea, either how to do it better or how to make the design better for the customer. You wouldn't wait for the CEO of the car company to come up with that idea. You would say, hey, I've got an idea that might make our product better, might be less, you know, costly, and you would be hopefully have an avenue to share that information. And so the leader might not be the one that comes up with all the great ideas, but they have to be open to listening to ideas from their people.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that happened with Saturn cars. Remember Saturn.

Speaker 2:

I do remember Saturn.

Speaker 1:

Well, when Saturn first came out, pretty much they would make it about two miles down the road before something fell off of them, because they were just not well built.

Speaker 2:

Get out the factory floor. They were horrible.

Speaker 1:

So they went back to everybody and it's like you know what's going on. And they're like oh yeah, we saw that. Why didn't you say anything? Because if I say something, something I risk getting fired. And they went to this person, next person on the line, and they said do you see this? Yeah, I saw it. Well, why didn't you fix it? Ain't my job to fix it. And they kept going. So they shut down, they fixed all the stuff, they interviewed a lot of the people and then they put a big button on there and that button was encouraged. If they saw something that was a mistake, to go over and hit that button and they rewarded the person for pointing it out. And they changed the culture of you're going to get fired because you shut down and we've got to keep this line going, because if you have one shutdown that shuts down the whole plant.

Speaker 1:

And that's big dollars. So they rewarded them for pointing things out and shutting down the thing and it became a change of culture. And then Saturn cars actually become more reliable over the years and that car brand survived, sort of based on that theory.

Speaker 2:

Wow, what a great concept, but you had to have good leaders be willing to do that. But they'd already invested billions of dollars into the factory and all that kind of stuff, the tooling, the employees, and so what a very good leader to say, hey, this is not working for us, we need to go in a different direction. And that's really good, because sometimes leaders will say you know, we've never done it that way before and we're not going to start now. And you know I was thinking of I was reading a news article the other day about Kodak and how they didn't embrace digital technology. Embrace digital technology and it's really cost them.

Speaker 2:

And so, and think about Blockbuster or think about Redbox, you know those companies that were so big, they made a big splash, but they didn't last the test of time. And because they were unwilling to do something, the leader said, no, we're good, we're not going to innovate, we're not going to change, we're not going to do something different, we're good where we are. And then, within 10, 20 years, we're good, we're not going to innovate, we're not going to change, we're not going to do something different, we're good where we are. And then, within 10, 20 years, they're gone, they're just history. I did read that I think it's somewhere in Oregon. There's still one Blockbuster store you can rent it and you can stay the night there.

Speaker 1:

They have the.

Speaker 2:

VCRs. Watch the TV VCRs. You watch the TV VCRs.

Speaker 1:

It's like a bed and breakfast blockbuster store. So yeah, it's sort of crazy.

Speaker 2:

When we were on vacation this last summer with our daughter and her boyfriend, we were in Alaska and we stayed in an Airbnb and guess what? They had VHS tapes Nice. They had a library. They could have opened up their own Blockbuster. I mean, they had hundreds and hundreds, hundreds of just like a library. It could have filled that wall easily in our studio, just of all these different VHS tapes. No DVDs, just VHS tapes.

Speaker 1:

But I think the question on everybody's mind, all the listeners right now did they have a sign up that says be kind and rewind, Be kind? No, well, they should have, because we had to rewind the tape.

Speaker 2:

We listened, we watched some because we were in Alaska, so we watched some movie about Alaska or something, and it'd been a while since I'd seen it. I can't remember the name of it, like iron will or something like that, and um, and it was like wow, that was interesting, you know, because it's grainy and the TV's old. But it was one of the and that wasn't one of those TV VCR combos.

Speaker 2:

It actually had a separate unit Hardcore ones, yeah, very hardcore, but it's like wow, that's back from like the 80s. And so we asked the owner of this Airbnb, because he had several cabins there and in the laundry room, I mean, we had a dresser. The TV was on top of this dresser and it was a small TV, I mean it was maybe a 15-inch TV VCR, and the dresser was full of VHS tapes. Okay, so I just happened they had a laundry facility there on the property, so I just happened to walk over to see where the laundry facility was and I walked in. One side there were several washer and dryers. The other side, hundreds of VHS library was right there.

Speaker 2:

And I'm thinking wow, now you have vinyl here on your wall. Vinyl is coming back. I don't think VHS is coming back but vinyl is coming back and there's something about listening to vinyl. You know that just sounds almost live. I don't know what it is, but it's just great.

Speaker 1:

I think back to how many cassettes I had. And then one day I was moving, I'm like I'll just buy the DVD and I threw all my cassettes away. I was like I'll just buy all new DVDs and that's not a problem. But yeah, I threw them all away because I just got sick of moving around, right? Yeah, oh well, would have liked to have those now. Yeah, just train shows.

Speaker 2:

So, as some people know who are listening that I used to be in a car show hobby, yeah, and I had a 55 Ford show truck and I'd go to car shows, Ford show truck and I'd go to car shows and every so often you'd have a 1968 Trans Am or something like that with a tape deck in it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, a track tape deck.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and they'd be playing and it'd be working. It's like how is that thing still working?

Speaker 1:

Love it.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, let's go back to leadership. So leaders understand that sometimes things need to change.

Speaker 1:

I'm down a whole memory lane there, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And sometimes things don't need to change. Yes, and there's consequences for both, and so I don't know how that relates to John, chapter 10, but it's a good leadership principle. And so here's the thing the shepherd was willing to give his or her life for the sheep, and sometimes that is literal, but sometimes that's figuratively, because what happens if a wolf or whatever was attacking the sheep? The shepherd had to defend. They had their staff, they had their rod, so they had to get involved with the fight and instead of just staying behind and watching it happen, they had to be willing to defend the sheep, and so that would be. Another leadership principle is is the CEO, the leader, willing to defend their people? Are they willing to stand up and are they willing to fight for their people?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, great leaders put their people above their own agenda sometimes you know, so it's sort of just step in and make sure that they feel safe, they have everything they need and know that you have their back. You know that's a lot of times. You know a lot of times the morale thing is just because your leader is flip-floppy, right, you know, and you can't read that leader and you don't know. And I always tell them and I've said it many times on here I don't care if you're a bad leader, just be consistent, be a bad leader, because then I can work with you. I know what you're going to say. You're going to say some bozo thing that makes no sense, but I'll do it myself my own way.

Speaker 2:

If you're going back and forth, you're being passive-aggressive and it's going to mess things up and people can't predict what you're doing, and that just causes all kinds of issues.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

It just does.

Speaker 1:

And so yeah.

Speaker 2:

Wonderful, yeah, so let's just keep going through John, chapter 10. And so this whole passage about Jesus talking about the sheep that's in the first part of the chapter and it goes all the way down to verse 18. And then he gets there's other things and he's talking about the feast, and and so the rest of the chapter. Jesus is just basically focusing on specific things People confronting him, they're challenging him and he is defending that, or he's speaking back to these people, and so one of the things that we can get from that is your actions have to be— Just don't talk.

Speaker 1:

Let your actions— Very well said. I couldn't think of the words. It can't just be talk, it can't be all words. It has to be actions. It has to be actions.

Speaker 2:

And so here's the thing I learned. I'm going to tell a story on myself, true story, okay, but it's about making a promise, don't expect it, no other way. Yeah, exactly right. Other way yeah, exactly right. So back in the 90s, when our children were young, I had an opportunity for a conference to go to Colorado Springs. And while we're in Colorado Springs, the whole family was there. We went up or the cog train up to the top of Pikes Peak.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, I love.

Speaker 2:

Pikes Peak. Yeah, pikes Peak was awesome. And so we're up on the top of Pikes Peak. Oh yeah, I love Pikes Peak. Yeah, pikes Peak was awesome. And so we were up on the top of Pikes Peak and this person, this man, was walking up and finishing the trail. And so our son was 10 at the time and his name is Matt and our daughter's name is Tricia, and he said Dad, can we hike up to the peak? I said when you're 12. When you're 12. Well, I didn't think anything about it, but I had made a promise.

Speaker 2:

And so at that particular time, we lived in a two-story house. Our bedroom was downstairs, the kids' bedroom was upstairs and we also had an extra room upstairs. That was like a study, but I had an exercise bicycle up there. I hadn't heard a word about anything About a year later.

Speaker 2:

One morning it had to be a Saturday because it wasn't school one morning I hear this noise and I'm thinking what in the world is happening. And so I'm thinking something's happened with one of the kids. And so I run upstairs and I go into this extra room and our son he's 11 by this time and he's on my exercise bicycle and he is pedaling as fast as he can go. And I said, son, what are you doing, you know? And he said I'm getting ready for the peak.

Speaker 2:

It'd been a year that I had made a promise, and I learned a valuable lesson that particular day that made me a better father. And that is when you make a promise, and that is when you make a promise, you need to keep it, and so that means that you can't just be all talk, you have to be action, and action speaks so loud, especially to children. So let me just say this to all moms and dads out there that are listening Be careful what you promise your children, because they'll remember, and you don't want to be known for a parent that promises things but never follows through with actions.

Speaker 2:

And if you're a leader. The same principle is so true you will elevate yourself in the eyes of your people, yourself in the eyes of your people. It doesn't matter if you're the head of the tennis team, a softball team, a scout troop, an archery it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2:

If you make a promise and you don't keep your promise, okay, people are going to remember that. And if you do it more than once, that's what they're going to be thinking about you. And once you get in the habit of breaking promises, it takes a long, long time to overcome that mindset in the eyes of your people. And so if you have done that and you recognize that, or people have told you that, just confess it to your people and just say, hey, I am going to do my best to do better. If I promised you something, if we're going to have a monthly luncheon, you know I promised that before. We've never done it. I'm sorry. We're going to start next week. We're going to do that. Just keep your word. You know and that was our very first lesson two years ago Are you a person of your word? And it's the same principle, you know. Don't just say it, do it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, 100% yeah, and so that's what Jesus is talking about here.

Speaker 2:

He was a person of his word. He just doesn't talk. Now, people didn't like what he was saying. They didn't like what he was doing, no, but he said you know, I'm just who I am the Father and I are one, and I'm going to do what the Father tells me to do and that's what I'm doing. And they didn't like it and we'll talk about the consequences of all that here in the coming weeks.

Speaker 2:

But there are going to be consequences. If you keep your promises, there's going to be consequences. If you keep your promises, there's going to be consequences. If you break your promises, there's going to be consequences. So that's an important lesson and I was just sharing this the other day with some people. You know and I've said this before on our podcast we can choose to do anything we want to do, but we can't always choose the consequences. But we can't always choose the consequences. But if you're a promise keeper, okay, and you say things and you actually do them, the consequences are normally good. Okay. If you promise things and you don't keep them, the consequences are normally not good, and you might not see those consequences immediately, but over time, morale weakens passion, weakens interest in the company, it just starts going downhill. So just be a person of your word, be a person that keeps their promises, and your leadership will just be on a whole other level, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

And speaking of keeping our word, you're the official dad joke person.

Speaker 2:

I have so many dad jokes I don't know about that. No, you're the official.

Speaker 1:

I think everybody would agree to that. But yeah, we're rolling down here towards the end. We made it through Chapter 10. We're going to hit John 11 next week. But before we get out of here, if you want to hang out with us, dr Posey, if you're first time here, we're going to have a little few dad jokes.

Speaker 2:

We're going to have a few dad jokes. So I don't know how this happened, but I just probably have 100 dad jokes today. I know we don't have time for me to share all of them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you said you come across a lot of good dad jokes randomly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I just come across them and I just do, okay. So what's the difference between black-eyed peas and chickpeas?

Speaker 1:

Black-eyed peas and chickpeas. Black eyed peas and chickpeas.

Speaker 2:

One got in a fight, not even close, okay so black eyed peas can sing us a song, but chickpeas can only hum us one nice, that was almost a groaner. Well, I can't promise these are going to be anything but groaners.

Speaker 1:

Hey, I got to tell you about one thing that I came across.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

There's a restaurant, I think it's in Frisco, that it's burgers, smash burgers and dad jokes Really, and it's called Dad Joke Burgers or something. So with every burger you get like a dad joke and they promote it. They have it on different things in the restaurant and yeah, I'm going to have to research it, but I saw that the other day. I'm like what the world?

Speaker 2:

So if you bring your own dad jokes, you get a free drink or something. Yeah, I don't know. Oh, only on the weekends. Yeah, so far.

Speaker 1:

I mean that's when they were going to be open.

Speaker 2:

Well, maybe we need to take our brides up there.

Speaker 1:

We might have to take the brides up there, where are? We going, oh, we're going to a fancy place. Pull up the dad jokes. You want ketchup on that? Oh okay.

Speaker 2:

So, speaking of the weekend, what is the best way to watch a fly fishing tournament?

Speaker 1:

Fly fishing tournament.

Speaker 2:

I don't know Livestream, of course.

Speaker 1:

All right.

Speaker 2:

I'll give you that one. You get it. I'll give you that one, okay, so what do you get? This, might you know, I'll finish this in a minute, but what do you get when you cross a pig with a dinosaur? Ooh A large pork sandwich, I don't know. Jurassic pork, nice. So where our daughter lives up in the eastern part of the United States, there is a restaurant called 50-50, and it's hamburgers, 50% beef, 50% bacon. Oh, my goodness, see I could do that. I love mixing bacon in with that it's so good.

Speaker 2:

If you don't like bacon, it's not bacon's fault right?

Speaker 1:

No, it's not.

Speaker 2:

Everything tastes better with bacon. Everything tastes better with bacon.

Speaker 1:

Okay so I've got only a few more, a few hundred more.

Speaker 2:

What do you call a paper airplane that can't fly?

Speaker 1:

Don't know.

Speaker 2:

Stationary.

Speaker 1:

Nice, I was trying to really think about that.

Speaker 2:

I've really been thinking about your jokes today, so I saw a video the other day online of this paper airplane that was like 20 feet long. I mean, they had this thing and they got on a big hill and it took one guy he was running and he threw it and this other guy ran down the hill to try to catch it and it actually flew. I mean this thing was a massive. Oh Well, okay, so why? Here's the last one I'm looking at the time. Yes, you know what it means when a pastor looks at his watch. It means absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so here we go. Okay, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2:

Why did the invisible man turn down the job offer?

Speaker 1:

Boss couldn't tell if he's doing a good job or not.

Speaker 2:

Well, he just couldn't see himself doing it. All right, we'll just stop right there.

Speaker 1:

I like it. That was sort of a low-key, casual dad jokes. If they stuck in, they heard some dad jokes. So hey, check us out biblicalleadershipshowcom and let us know some dad jokes, let us know your thoughts, please, believe it or not, and we talk about this more than not. I'm sure there's a lot of people out there groaning about the dad jokes, but we actually get a lot of great comments about the dad jokes. It just cuts the monotony and it's a balanced show with everything.

Speaker 1:

What other podcast anywhere has this quality of dad jokes?

Speaker 2:

I'm not saying quantity, I'm saying quality.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there you go. All right, it's just because our listeners keep sending us good ones. All right, check us out biblicalleadershipshowcom. Other than that, dr P, take us out. Hey, make it a great day. Thank you.

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