Jesus Over Moses

If you have ever felt like the whole mission rests on your shoulders, Hebrews has a blunt and hopeful correction for you. We spend time in Hebrews chapter 3 and chapter 4, and we look at what it means for leaders to hold responsibility without confusing stewardship with ownership.

We talk through why the writer of Hebrews honors Moses while still making the case that Jesus is superior to Moses. That contrast becomes a leadership lesson: Moses is a faithful servant who prepares Joshua to carry the work forward, while Jesus does not hand off the mission because he is the mission. From there we connect the text to real-world leadership, including succession planning, training your people, and building an organization that can thrive when you are not in the room.

Then we shift into Hebrews 4 and the theme of rest. Not “take a nap and ignore problems” rest, but spiritual rest that comes from trusting God, accepting grace, and practicing obedience over time. We share practical ways to build a daily Bible reading and prayer habit without burning out, and we challenge the idea that constant busyness equals faithfulness. Along the way, we keep it light with a few dad jokes, because that is part of how we roll.

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Transcript

Welcome And Dad Jokes Warmup

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Oh now.

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Yeah.

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Alrighty, welcome. Welcome.

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Come on, Tim.

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Welcome, welcome, welcome. Hey. Wouldn't be right if I didn't have we didn't start the show that way. Welcome to Biblical Leadership Show. My name is Tim Lansford. With me is Dr. Dean Posey. Dr. Dean Posey. The one and only.

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That's probably good. I tell people that, you know, my mother probably thought this. If I was the firstborn, there were six kids in my family. I was third. But if I had been the firstborn, I would have probably been an only child.

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There you go. There we go. Yeah, and you know, moms are usually honest like that.

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So yeah. But great mom. Oh my gosh. What a godly woman she was. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She was so godly and so just just an amazing person. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

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Glad to hear.

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Yeah. So how are you doing today?

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I'm doing all right. Lots of rain here in the last week or something. We've had lots of rain.

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So um yeah, we were over at the National Cemetery, DFW National Cemetery. Um and um the because my father-in-law is buried there. And so we picked up my mother-in-law, and we went over to the National Cemetery the other day, and it's just beautiful. I mean, whoever's in charge of that uh facility is just they're amazing people. That's and there are all the flags out on every grave. I mean for real like 50 or 60,000 flags, then the flags line the boulevard. It's just so serene. It's just so humbling to watch that. And um, so we're out there coming back on I-20. It I thought it was a monsoon. I mean, it was pouring down rain so hard. Right. It was like everybody's going like 30 miles an hour. It was it was crazy how hard. It's and then last night we added again. Oh my goodness. Yeah, exactly. Right. Yeah. So welcome to the Biblical Leadership Show. And just if you're a first-time listener, thank you so much for listening. Thank you.

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We're we're adding one or two a week. Yeah, now we're up to six. Yeah. I think it was seven. Oh, seven. Wow.

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Okay. I'm slow to remember.

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Exactly.

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So let me just give a synopsis of what we do. And uh this is episode 121. 121. Yeah. And so what we've been doing for the last uh two and a half years is we have been going through, well, the last almost two years now, we've been going through the Bible book by book and talking about the leadership principles in every book. So uh sometimes the books um we go through uh one a week. Um then other books like one we're right in now in the book of Hebrews, um, we'll go, it's we're just now in chapter three, and I think this is the third week. So this is the third week. So it might take us a while, and uh we don't want to gloss over anything, but there's so many good leadership principles um in this book, um, and in every book in the Bible, um, that we just want to not rush through it. We just want to take the time and and go uh do some deep dives and talk about talk about that. So um, but also because it's our show, we throw in plenty of dad jokes. Yeah, plenty of dad jokes. And uh, you know, so after you walk listen to the show, please, if if you feel we need it and we probably will, send us some dad jokes, biblical leadership show.com. Anyway, I've got a few to start us off today. Um have you ever tried I was a tennis player in junior high, high school, one year of college, but um anyway, have you ever tried to play quiet tennis?

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Quiet tennis.

SPEAKER_00 4:27

Yes. It's just like regular tennis, but without the racket.

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I don't give that to you.

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You give that to me. Oh my no, I don't know. Okay, good, good, good, good. So uh let's just say what's another one? Um let's see. Oh yeah, here we go. You know, um I don't know if this is phasing out, but um some of my grandkids put together a PowerPoint presentation explaining why people should go to the water park in the summer. Yeah, it had several slides.

SPEAKER_03 5:17

Oh, yes. Not as bad as mine, right? When does a dad when does the dad become a dad joke? When does a joke become a dad joke? That would make more sense.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

I don't know what.

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When it becomes a parent.

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Oh, we got the parent. You know, I'm looking forward to watching the World Origami Championship.

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Oh, this could be an interesting thing.

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Yeah, you can watch it on pay-per-view.

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Nice. Oh I just got silly ones.

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You got silly ones.

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What happens when frogs park illegally?

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Oh. They croak?

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They get towed.

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They get towed. Okay. All right, one more. Yeah, so so you travel all over the country talking with the Home Build Association. Um, did you hear about, and there's, you know, if you go to Vegas, there's a lot of Elvis impersonators. Okay. So did you hear about the bus full of Elvis impersonators that crashed on the way to Vegas?

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Hmm.

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No one was hurt, but they were all shook up. Shook up. Yeah.

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I was like, ah, I know where it's going. Last minute, I got it.

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Yeah.

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All right. Yeah. You're looking.

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I've got like five six hundred dad jumps. I got some you know. All right.

Hebrews Context And Who Wrote It

SPEAKER_00 6:41

So let's talk about uh Hebrews chapter three. So if uh you're not familiar with the book of Hebrews, it is in the New Testament. Um the person who wrote it, which we don't know the author.

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It's still amazing.

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It is amazing after 2,000 years we don't know the author. And um, or someone said, only God knows who the author of Hebrews was, except the person that wrote it and God.

SPEAKER_03 7:05

And so for maybe we can have AI analyze all the writings and see who it's closest to. You know, well, I mean, they've had theories, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:14

They've had theories that for about 1,500 years they thought it was the Apostle Paul, and then they began to really analyze the Greek and realize you know what, this probably isn't Paul. So for the last couple of hundred years, there's been a debate. Some people still believe it's Paul, but many scholars think it they don't know. So it could have been Apollos, um, it could have been someone else, but whoever it was had a very thorough knowledge of the Old Testament. And so what I did uh a couple of weeks ago was to encourage people. Um, if you're not familiar with the book of Hebrews, because there's so many references to the Old Testament. In fact, the whole book is about why Jesus is superior to everything we read in the Old Testament, and he is the fulfillment of the commandments of God. Um and so I would encourage you to read the first five books of the Old Testament, which is the Torah. And um you might get a little bogged down in like Numbers or Leviticus, but it's worth the read and gives you a foundation for understanding how phenomenal Jesus was and is. And so today we're in chapter three and four, hopefully get to four. But the whole theme of those two chapters is that Jesus was superior to Moses.

SPEAKER_03 8:45

Right. Yeah. I uh while you were talking, you know me, I'm a multitasker.

SPEAKER_00 8:49

Yes, you are very good at it.

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I I went over to AI and I said, based on writing styles, uh, you know, all that stuff, rhetorical structure, old testament handling, and and leadership, the theological pattern. Who is the most likely person that possibly could have wrote um um Hebrews? The Hebrews. And I said, actually, my my first choice is not Paul, it's it's for based on AI, came back with most likely uh Paulus. Apollos, Apollos. Paulos. Yeah, and then second choice was Barnabas, uh-huh. And then third choice was Luke as the editor compiling of uh compiler of Pauline's teachings. Oh just I don't I just thought that was interesting, right?

SPEAKER_00 9:37

That would be uh yeah, that guy was brilliant. He was amazing.

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So yeah, it's amazing because I mean, you know, I I I just I was curious and that you're gonna be asking. Yeah, so there you go. We might have just solved it. I doubt it, but AI. That's how we did. Anyway, so that was interesting.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

Let's talk about what Moses, if you're not familiar with who he was. Yeah. Uh Moses, uh we see his birth in the first chapter of the book of Exodus, which is the second book of the Bible. And at that particular time, the Jewish nation at the very end of the first book went down to Egypt because there was a famine in Israel. There was a famine all over that part of the world, and but there had been food stored up in Egypt. Well, that's a whole other story we won't get into, but but the Jewish people had been slaves of the Egyptians for 400 years, and they had been praying and crying out to God. Moses was born. Um, the Pharaoh of Egypt wanted all the male chick children to be thrown into the river, but the mother thought, no, I'm not going to do this very special child. So we won't go into all of that. But anyway, Moses grew up uh in Pharaoh's house and was trained as a brilliant man, brilliant scholar. Um God basically spoke to him through a burning bush. We see that in the first part of the book of Exodus, and gave him a mission to go back to, he was not in Egypt at the time. We saw this the burning bush. So God gave him a mission to go back to Egypt and confront Pharaoh and demand the people go. So through a series of plagues and all this kind of stuff, um, then finally the people left Egypt, and Moses was the agent through which God led the people out. Incredible miracles uh that lasted. They it took them 40 years to get to the promised land. Um, and then we see here in the the last of the book of Numbers that God told Moses he was going to die, and he needed to find someone else to steward the mission. And that young man's or that man's name was Joshua. And so then Deuteronomy is basically a retelling of all that, and then we go into Joshua. So, so uh to me, what a great leadership principle that here's Moses who stewarded the vision for 40 years, but he knew his time was over, and he had to pass on the vision and the mission to someone else. Um, so to me, um the thing about it is just that one aspect of it, um, Jesus doesn't have to pass on the vision or mission to anyone else. Okay. So he is the vision, he is the mission, and um, and so this is just one aspect of why he's superior to uh Moses, um, and that he died, but he was resurrected, he lives forever, um, and he is the vision, he is the mission.

Moses Leadership And Passing The Baton

SPEAKER_00 13:10

Um and and so the leadership principle, let me just tell you what happened last evening uh where we live, just north of Fort Worth.

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Which is so awesome. It's a great story.

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It's an incredible story, and I'm just humbled to be a part of it. Um so we um when I when we moved to the town we live in now uh back in uh 2000, uh there was a community food uh pantry. The lady who was in charge of that had been doing it for several years, just a great job, but she just was tired and she wanted to re just retire. And so a couple of other pastors and I got together and said, Well, this is such a great ministry, we can't let it die. We need to do something. And so we started talking. What can we do? What can we do? We didn't know. And um, and so uh a man, a businessman in the community donated part of his um mechanical shop so we could keep the food bank going. Then he donated property across the street. It took us about two years to raise the money for a building we built, about 7,000 square feet. And that and that building opened in 2003. Well, um, I was the chair of the board of that organization. We had one very, very part-time employee, uh Arthur was incredible. Um, and and so last night, though, there was an open house for the latest edition of the building. Now in 2023, that first building had a small gift shop in it. And the the gifts and the community support has just been incredible for the last 25 years, really for longer than that. But um, they built another building, maybe five, six thousand square feet next door that's just the gift shop and a resale shop. I mean, just incredible uh what's going on, and all that money goes back to help um the caring center. And well, last night they've been working on this for about two years, they built a massive refrigerator and freezer section. Um, because before we just had to use residential or commercial refrigerators and freezers, and with this new part of the building, um and it you like it's going into a Walmart. There's there's stacks, four levels of um of shelves, uh, and can just store thousands of pounds of fresh uh vegetables and fruit and frozen food. Um, and so last night they had an open house for that, and they had a uh in one of the rooms they had a picture history of all of this from way back um decades ago. And I just was humbled to see over that period of time since I was involved in it, before the woman, she was the executive director, then we had Arthur, then we had Joe, then we had Linda, now we have Christy. And and so to me, it's the same principle that we see here in with Moses was that they were not the owner of the mission, they were just the steward of the mission. And when a leader realizes that they are, even if they created the company, that they're just the steward of the mission or the vision, um, it could be for five years, it could be for 40 years. Yeah, but if they are a steward, they realize there has to be a way to have a succession plan. If they feel they own the mission, it can't happen without them, probably or very rarely would they have a succession plan because they think they're going to be there forever. So one of the things that we see in Hebrews is that uh we're talking about Moses, he had a succession plan, Joshua was his. Well, how Jesus was far superior to that is Jesus is the mission, he is the vision, he is the focus. Uh, and he doesn't need to pass that on to anyone because he's it. Um, and so I just thought that was a great thing. It just happened last night, and I'm just humbled to be a part of that journey. Right now, this month, that community caring center is going to serve 1,700 families in one month. And they can only come once a month. I I just humbled by the support of the community and the leadership that Christy does and uh and the volunteers and the staff. It's just absolutely phenomenal.

SPEAKER_03 17:46

That's amazing. Yeah, that's amazing.

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Just amazing.

SPEAKER_03 17:49

So and and and one of the things that, you know, you go back to leaderships is you know, you had those that thing, but it it takes that initial steward, that somebody that that really has that vision, you know, that that is passionate about it to make it happen.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

Yeah.

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Or it could have fizzled out real easy.

SPEAKER_00 18:07

Yeah, and just so think about Jesus' passion. He had a passion for the lost. You know, he know, and we see in the Bible that his his destiny, his cross and resurrection, was decided even before the earth was created. And and so Jesus knew when he was, you know, humbled himself and became a human being. Um we we don't know how I I get this question all the time. How in the world did all of the vanity squeeze into a baby? That is a really great question. And I like I tell my that's a great question. I don't know the answer. We don't know how it happened, but we know why it happened. It happened so he could grow up, he could die on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins, be buried, and then raised on the third day, so we could have eternal the gift of eternal life offered to us. And and so he has that vision, that mission, and um, and so he is far superior to Moses in every and and Moses was a phenomenal individual. I mean, there was probably nothing, no one like him in the Old Testament because he was so faithful to God, so obedient, um, and it just incredible, brilliant leader, scholar, everything, prophet, servant, leader, mediator, leader, you know. Yes. Um, and yet the writer of Hebrews says, hey, he was great, but Jesus is even greater.

SPEAKER_03 19:41

So yeah, that's exactly. You know, he was faithful, and the text honors him, but you know, ultimately it makes it clear that Moses was a servant, and Jesus was, you know, greater than Moses. And I thought that was pretty important, you know, that's an important distinction.

SPEAKER_00 19:58

So yeah. And uh and just think about Moses, he had one person named Joshua that he was mentoring for that long, and because of that, you still have millions of Jewish people around the world um that live in that tradition. Uh and that's fantastic. You have Jesus who was here for on the you know, his ministry was three years long. He had twelve disciples. Um and then but his mission continues um throughout the world, has billions of followers, and um and it just it's just incredible. So it's humble beginnings with a great steward can do amazing things.

SPEAKER_03 20:52

Yeah, 100%. And you know, I I think that uh uh companies can learn from that, you know, and and we've talked about it many times of having the the succession planning and and you know the vision where the the rudder's taking the ship and and you know over the last couple years, uh all this stuff sort of ties together of where where everything should be going and how you should be setting your company up. But a lot of times people still don't do it to this day.

SPEAKER_00 21:21

So yeah, and I think of it like life insurance or car insurance. Hopefully you will never need the user insurance, but in case you do, you have it, right? Well, you're not gonna say, well, in case I ever need a succession plan. No, at some point you're gonna need it. It might be tomorrow, it might be a decade from now. Um, but have that plan in place, at least begin to process it, put some, you know, an outline to it, just have a discussion um about it. Um, you might not, and every so often you might need to. Fine-tune it because you have personnel changes or whatever. Um, but you gotta think. I need to be training my people in case this happens. Okay. Yeah. So anyway, yeah.

Rest As Obedience And Trust

SPEAKER_00 22:13

So great um great chapter three. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 22:17

I was just looking to see if I had anything else in my notes there. So chapter four, can't it be we are chapter four, my goodness. It feels sort of bad just going more than one in a session.

SPEAKER_00 22:27

So that's yeah, that's that's great. Um so chapter four talks about rest. It talks about rest.

SPEAKER_03 22:38

What's the correlation there?

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Well, we see in the old testament that they were going to into the promised land. Okay. And many, many thousands of people did not enter into the promised land because of their disobedience to God. Um, and that's a whole different story. But they were not allowed to go in. So um and so the whole thing of rest is uh being in the presence of God. And and so uh the theme here is if we are obedient, now we're not gonna be perfect. Let's let's just be clear about that. There's a difference between being perfect, there was only one person in the world who was perfect, and that's Jesus. But you can still be obedient without being perfect, and and sometimes we beat ourselves up when we make mistakes, when we sin, whatever. And this is my response. I wish I'd used it all the time. So I make a mistake, or I realize, you know what, that was not good. I should not be doing that. Um, you can beat yourself up for the rest of your life on things that you should have done. What if this, or you know, what whatever. And and my response, and I'm trying to use it more frequently, is you know, thank you, Satan, for reminding me how much I need Jesus. You know, so you can focus on your mistake, and this enemy wants you to do that, focus on mistakes and how bad you are, whatever. Jesus wants to focus on the fact that you're forgiven. We're not perfect, we're forgiven, and and we are strict to be more like him, more obedient every day. And so if we focus on that, uh there's several passages here in chapter four talking about entering to the rest, the rest of God. And that is just entering into his presence. Um, and and so back in back in the uh the first you know part of the Bible, the Jewish people were going to enter into the promised land. Okay. Um, that was God's place where he wanted his people, and and so they what we see in chapter four is that they they were not able to enter into the rest. And and so here's the thing. Sometimes we exclude ourselves from being in the quote rest of God or in the presence of God because we just don't accept it. We just don't accept God, we don't accept his grace, we don't accept his mercy, we don't accept his forgiveness. Uh, those of us who do um will find ourselves in the eternal, maybe sometimes we still struggle on this earth, and we probably will continue to do that, but the but God's desire is for us to be in the eternal rest of God, which means we'll be in his presence forever. Yeah. So and that's one thing about Jesus. He can provide that eternal rest. Moses, then Joshua, could only provide the temporary part of being in the land that God wanted. So it was like a different thing, but uh being in the eternal rest of God far superior than being in the promised land uh just until you pass away, you know, and not having eternal rest with God.

SPEAKER_03 26:13

Right. So that's what that chapter four is really Yeah, it makes sense, you know, because the rest in Hebrew has, you know, it it has lots of meanings, right? Yeah, it does. Lots. You know, a couple of things I noted, it points to God's rest, it points to uh the the rest that Israel failed to fully enter, and it and it points to ultimately uh the rest found in trusting God through, you know, Christ. And it's it's not merely a physical relaxation as some as we think the word rest holds in there, it's a it's a spiritual rest, exactly what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00 26:48

Yeah, and so think about the Ten Commandments. One of them is to remember the Sabbath and keep it holy. And so uh so the Jewish people, um, they would not their Sabbath was a Saturday. And so even in the going through the the desert, the wilderness for 40 years, God provided on Friday twice as much manna as they would need, because they wouldn't need to go out on Saturday to collect the food because they were supposed to be resting and enjoying the presence of God. And so sometimes we um forget that a day of rest or just enjoying God's presence um is so crucial to our health. Um sometimes we confuse busyness with faithfulness and and and God saying, you know, there needs to be a time in your life, a scheduled time, that you meet with me. Um and so I encourage people, hey, if you're not doing that right now, um start out by reading one chapter of the Bible, just one. Like start with the book of Matthew, read one chapter of Matthew. That's it. And then pray for one minute. That's it. Don't don't try to do 30 minutes, don't try to do an hour, just do one chapter and one minute of prayer. Um, then the next month or two months later, read two chapters and two minutes. And if you do that over a year period of time, then you'll begin to realize that's not enough. That I I I I want some more. But you can't like drink out of a fire hydrant at the beginning of a habit and expect to expect to enjoy that. You're gonna burn out. Start out small like anything else. You go to the gym, you don't try to bench press 200 pounds the first day, you know. You don't? No. No, okay. You don't. So you start out small, build up, you know, and uh it's like any sport, any any um musical instrument you want to play, you start out small, and the more you do it, the more you're just convicted. I just want to do this more and more and more. Same thing with reading the Bible and being in the rest of God. You start out small, you get more, you do more, you do more, and just think what would happen in a year or two, or three or five years. You're you know, you might be praying 30 minutes a day um instead of a minute. And and that's great. That's really God would love it if you would do that, you know. And my experience, not just in my own life, but talking to others, is the more they prioritize being in the rest of God, the more their other parts of their lives begin to fall in place because they're prioritizing a relationship with God. And that's just uh doesn't mean you have to spend all day, you can spend all day talking to Him, but you if you're still working, you gotta go to work, you know? Um, but get up 15 minutes, 10 minutes early and with your cup of coffee, read the Bible and pray, and then get ready for work and go to work. Yeah. Um I try to I used to try to do that at night. It didn't work for me. I was a night person, but I would fall asleep, you know. So I thought I gotta start getting up in the morning. I actually prayed, God, would you may help me be a morning person? I've never been a morning person in my life. Um, would you help me be a morning person so I can spend time with you? It took a while to adjust that, but now that's what I do. And uh it just kind of helps me um start the day out properly for me. You know, find out what works for you. Might be on your lunch break, you know, you read your Bible at your desk, and then you go walk the halls at work and pray. Pray for the people at your work, pass their desk and pray for them, you know.

SPEAKER_03 31:01

So just I think the moral story is just rest, you know, you take some rest. And and you know, a lot of people consider rest as laziness, weakness, and all that, lack of ambition. But it's uh to me, it's a leadership discipline, right? You know, I think it's part of a leadership. You have to be able to stop and rest as part of growing, because if you're going nonstop, and a lot of people feel that that's what they need to do. But um, you know, that's why in leadership retreats and stuff, we always have a uh rest and relaxation, you know, class over the course of the year because a lot of people don't know how to do it.

SPEAKER_00 31:41

Yes. And leadership, I mean, resting is trust. Uh a lack of rest, I think, really reveals a deeper problem, like everything depends upon me, and if I don't get it done, it's not gonna happen. Uh and so if that's your issue, then Jesus knew that his mission would only be accomplished for eternity if he had his disciples, his apostles. And so he spent three years training them because he knew he was going to be um crucified and then resurrected, but he needed people on earth to continue the mission. And so I'd say start now. It might take you three years to train people, but start now and do it. What a great thing to begin this year. Even I mean, I know it's you know, almost the year's almost halfway done, but it's never too late to start.

SPEAKER_03 32:38

Exactly right.

SPEAKER_00 32:39

Yeah.

More Dad Jokes And Closing Invite

SPEAKER_00 32:40

Well, I think maybe it might be some time for some dad jokes. Yeah, well, I know we've said this, but it's been a while. Okay. So so what do you call a row of rabbits hopping away?

SPEAKER_03 32:55

Hmm. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 32:57

You call them a receding hairline.

SPEAKER_03 33:01

Nice. Nice.

SPEAKER_00 33:04

So so if you're in an Apple store and you see a robbery taking place, are does that make you an eyewitness?

SPEAKER_03 33:14

Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 33:15

Maybe so. Oh, I get oh, this is a new one for me. This is a new one. What do you get when you cross a snake with a pie?

SPEAKER_03 33:28

Hmm. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 33:30

A python.

SPEAKER_03 33:32

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00 33:34

Yeah, wow of the truth.

SPEAKER_03 33:36

Oh you know, uh so uh duck walked into a pharmacy and said, give me some chapstick and put it on my bill.

SPEAKER_00 33:45

Put it on my bill. Oh. Okay. So why did the shark get sent to jail? I don't know. Because he was involved in some fishy business. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Um okay, so I think I might have shared this, maybe not. What do you call a chicken, a hen, who counts her own eggs? Ooh. A Mathama chicken.

SPEAKER_03 34:23

On that, why do chicken coops have only two doors?

SPEAKER_00 34:28

Ooh. Why do chicken coops only have two doors? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 34:32

Because if they had four, they would be called chicken sedans.

SPEAKER_00 34:37

Oh, that's a good one. Okay, what do you call a flower that runs on electricity? I don't know. A power plant.

SPEAKER_03 34:48

Nice. I'm gonna give you one of my favorite all-time jokes, and then that's my last joke. Well, I mean, for me, then you can do whatever. Okay. What's brown and sticky?

SPEAKER_00 35:00

A stick. A stick. I love that joke.

SPEAKER_03 35:06

Still one of my favorites. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 35:08

What do you call a baby potato? You we've seen this little baby potatoes. Yes. What do you call a baby potato? Um a small fry. Nice. Oh you good? I I'm good. I probably have oh, here's here's a good one.

SPEAKER_03 35:27

All right. Last one.

SPEAKER_00 35:28

For all of those of you who have insomnia.

SPEAKER_03 35:32

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_00 35:32

Okay. A lot of people have insomnia. They might be taking some sleep medicine. It still doesn't work.

SPEAKER_03 35:37

Does it work? I'm a geriatric dog that wakes me up every night. So okay, here we go.

SPEAKER_00 35:44

Do you know that if you go to bed in a full set of armor, that it's the best way to get a full night's sleep? Oh boy.

SPEAKER_03 35:55

Can I hit two buttons at the same time? Yeah, I can do two at the same time. There we go.

SPEAKER_00 36:00

You can. Oh now you know why we need you to send us some dad to jokes.

SPEAKER_03 36:05

Yeah, no worries. Oh. All right, guys. Well, check us out biblical leadershipshow.com. Uh come back and hang out with us next week as we get into a little bit more of the Hebrews.

SPEAKER_00 36:17

Yeah, chapter, maybe chapter five and six. Possibly. We'll eventually get through the book.

unknown 36:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:24

There's there's a lot of good lessons here. We don't want to rush.

SPEAKER_00 36:26

No, we don't want to rush.

SPEAKER_03 36:28

Exactly right.

SPEAKER_00 36:29

You know, we'll finish the whole Bible maybe by Christmas.

SPEAKER_03 36:32

Yeah. Yeah. Just in time for our 24-7 of dad jokes show.

SPEAKER_00 36:38

24-7 of dad jokes. And you know, show 150 is probably gonna be I don't know, around that time or maybe a little sooner. So we're gonna have a big party. Yeah, we're gonna episode 150.

SPEAKER_03 36:51

We might even invite our seven listeners in, you know. Be in the studio. In the studio for live recording. Yes. That's great. Well, thank you so much. Maybe we need to go out and do uh live uh remote at the food bank sometime. So we should. Yeah, maybe we can set that up sometime.

SPEAKER_00 37:11

Wow, that would be fantastic. Yeah, that'd be fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 37:15

We'll think about that. Okay. All right, guys, check us out, biblical leadership show.com, send us bad jokes. Uh share with a friend, and other than that, Dr. B.

SPEAKER_00 37:24

Thanks for listening. Make it a great day.

unknown 37:27

Thank you.