From Belief To Behavior: Leadership Lessons From James

Some leaders inspire trust without saying much, and others lose a room with one sloppy pivot. James helps us name the difference, and he does it with the kind of blunt clarity that makes you sit up straight. We kick off our walk through the Book of James by grounding who James is (Jesus’ brother, not one of the Twelve), how his life flips from skepticism to conviction, and why his leadership in the Jerusalem church still matters for Christian leadership today. 

From there, we connect James to the day-to-day reality of leading people: what do you do with someone who’s on the team but not truly behind the mission? How long do you coach, how do you evaluate potential, and when do you make the hard call? We also unpack James’ view of trials and perseverance, especially the idea that pressure reveals maturity rather than magically creating it. If you’re navigating conflict, uncertainty, or a tough season at work or at home, these leadership principles are practical and immediately usable. 

We close by calling out two culture killers James refuses to ignore: double-minded leadership that creates confusion, and favoritism that tells people the standard is for sale. Along the way, we keep it honest, usable, and yes, we sprinkle in a few dad jokes too. If this helped you think more clearly about workplace culture, mission alignment, and resilient leadership, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review so more leaders can find the show.

Transcript

Recovery Updates And Summer Energy

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Hey, what's going on, Dr. B? How are you doing today?

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I'm doing fantastic.

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Spectacular. Yes. Spectacular. Yes. Just keeps getting better and better.

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It does. You know, it's been uh six weeks today, maybe seven weeks today, that I uh had that bicycle accident, broke my rib. So still recovering, still frustrated I'm not in the pool. You know, it'll be another at least a couple more weeks.

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Yeah.

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I'm doing here. I'm here, you know. I walked this morning, yeah. So it's it's still good. That's good. Just can't do everything yet. I understand.

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But uh still buzzing because of uh, you know, the July poop de ho and everything like that coming off of a couple trips and and uh the heat and and just uh America, you know.

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America celebrating. I mean, it shouldn't just be a day, it should be like a month.

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Right. You know. We should. Hopefully it'll be a year's, you know. So uh anyway, uh yeah, we actually switched out a chapter or a book in the Bible.

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Can you believe it? I know it took us what five weeks to get through the book of Hebrews, but let me just give a little background. Thank you so much for joining us. If this is your first time, this is the Biblical Leadership Show. I am Dr. Dean Posey, and with me is Tim Lansford. Tim, thank you for uh you know being here with me today in the studio. And and so for those of you who are here for the very first time, thank you for tuning us in today. And let me give a little background. Um, we've been on the air, this is episode 128, and we've been on the air for almost three years now. Uh two years ago, next month, we started going through the Bible book by book. Sometimes it takes us a little longer to go through a book, um, and sometimes we go through a book in one week. But uh today we start in the book of James. So um in August of 2024, we started the book of Genesis, and now we're in the New Testament. We just finished the book of Hebrews last week, and today we're talking about the book of James. And so I'll give a little background on James if you don't know who that person is. And um, what we do is we go through uh the book, uh, sometimes fast, sometimes slow, and we talk about the leadership principles that are found in that particular book that you literally can apply to your life today. Whether you're just a leader of your family, whether you're a leader of a little mom and pop air conditioned business, leader in the church, leader of a Fortune 500 company. We hope that all of these apply to you. And so um at least take something away from today and we thank you for joining us.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:24

So today we're in the book of James.

SPEAKER_01 3:26

James, I like James, very blunt to the point. Love this, love this man.

SPEAKER_03 3:30

He he is like a okay, this is what you believe, this is how you should live. But I didn't mention. Also, um, we throw in a few dad jokes.

SPEAKER_00 3:41

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:41

Yeah, so keeping with that tradition.

Dad Jokes To Set The Tone

SPEAKER_00 3:43

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:44

Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 3:45

I was stepping ahead there.

SPEAKER_03 3:48

You were stepping ahead and getting to the Bible. Okay. Okay, so how did Fred Flintstone stay in the quarry workers union?

SPEAKER_00 3:59

Yabba da doo.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

Yep, he paid his yabba dabba does.

SPEAKER_00 4:03

Nice. That's funny. I was actually just going, yabba-dabba doo. I got it right.

SPEAKER_03 4:09

Okay, here's another one. What did the beaver say to the tree?

SPEAKER_01 4:16

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 4:17

It's been nice gnawing you. Okay, here's another one. What do you call a cow with a twitch? Um about beef jerky. You got one for me before we get into the serious stuff.

SPEAKER_01 4:45

Um, not yet.

SPEAKER_03 4:49

Okay, here's here's another one for all of you math nerds out there. Yeah. The difference between a numerator and a denominator is a short line. And only a fraction of people will understand this.

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Oh boy.

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I used to enjoy math. In fact, I really enjoyed math.

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Oh, yeah. I uh my son enjoys math out there. He loves math.

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So you know, the rotation, you know, we're we're in the middle of July, just about middle of July, or just past the middle of July. And uh, you know, I was thinking about this the other day. The rotation of the earth really makes my day.

SPEAKER_01 5:35

Did you see the big fire down at the circus?

SPEAKER_03 5:39

Uh I've heard this one, but I can't remember.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

No, it was intense. It was intense. Oh, why'd the scientists go to the tanning salon?

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I don't know.

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Because he is a pale paleontologist.

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Say that three times real fast. Exactly right. Oh. You know, I had a dream last night that I was a muffler. Yeah, I woke up exhausted.

SPEAKER_00 6:10

I gave you both. Okay. Well, let's get after it. All right.

How The New Testament Fits Together

SPEAKER_03 6:14

Let's talk about the book of James. Book of James. Yeah, so James, uh, let's just talk about the New Testament. So the first four books of the New Testament, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, are called the Gospels. Those are uh the story of Jesus when Jesus was alive. Then the next book we have the book of Acts, which is the story of the early church. The very first chapter, the first few verses, uh, Jesus had been resurrected before he ascended, but the rest of the book, all 28 chapters, focus on the life of the early church, uh, really, of the apostle Peter at the beginning, then the Apostle Paul, and how they God used them to spread the gospel in that area of the world during the first century. Um, and then after that, we have the letters of Paul. So we started out with Romans and Corinthians and Galatians, all the way up to Jude, and then we have the book of Hebrews, and there's still a debate as to who wrote the book of Hebrews, but we figured that out. We figured that out in two seconds. That's AI, right? AI told us. So it could be Apollos, it could be Barnabas, but uh really no one knows, and so only God knows except us. Um and uh that really talks about uh how Jesus is superior to everything in the Old Testament. We finished the book of Hebrews last week.

Who James Is And Why He Changed

SPEAKER_03 7:40

Yes, and so now we come to the book of James, and so a little background on the book of James, because as we read the book, or just read the title, we might think that James is one of the twelve original apostles. Yeah, and that would be incorrect.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

That would be incorrect.

SPEAKER_03 7:59

So this is written by one of Jesus' brothers. Now you think, Jesus had brothers? Yes, he did. So go back into the book of uh Luke at the birth story of Jesus, and it says that Jesus was Mary's firstborn son. Okay. So then we read in the book of Matthew, chapter 13, uh beginning with verse 55, that Mary and her some of her children were with her, and the first one listed is James. So it is believed that that's how they wrote back then that they would always list the first, the oldest one first. So you had Jesus being born, and then at some point later, James was born. And um then now he grew up with Jesus, obviously. But we read in the book of John, chapter seven, verse two through five, that it says, even his brothers did not believe in him. Right so they knew who he was, they believed he was Jesus, but they didn't believe that he was the Son of God. And this was already after Jesus started his ministry. Yeah, it was tough. It's like his church didn't believe, and and like his brothers and so that's um we could go on to that as a leadership lesson right there is what happens when some of your people don't believe in your leadership. Right. That is a tough thing. We've both been there, and uh we can deal with that another day. Maybe we'll get to it today, but I don't think so. And then in the book of Acts, in the first chapter, um we read that there were 120 disciples in the upper room um after the ascension of Jesus, and James it says that his mother was there with his brothers. Uh and so just think about it. You have, we don't know the time frame, but Jesus' earthly ministry only lasted three years. And so at some point in from John chapter 7, we don't know how far that was into his ministry, let's just say a year. So you have uh James here as a brother of Jesus, doesn't believe, and then uh after his crucifix and resurrection, and then 40 days later, they're up in the upper room, or excuse me, 10 days later, they're up in the upper room, and it says that they're there as one of the 120 disciples. So something happened between John chapter 7 and Acts chapter 1 that turned James' life around. Um, he became a significant um leader in the church in Jerusalem, which was the mother church there. Uh he was part of the uh what we call uh the council of Jerusalem in Acts 15. And uh and then he starts out his book. Uh James chapter 1 says this James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ. So so he there was a significant transformation from John chapter 7 till Acts chapter 1. Now, many years later, uh perhaps 30 years later, he's writing this book. Now, James was martyred around the year 62 AD. So he went from a non-believer to a believer to a significant believer, leader, and then wrote a book and was martyred. So there was a huge shift in his mindset, his heartset, all of that, his spiritual life, all the direction of his life, everything because of Christ.

SPEAKER_01 11:39

And look let's get into one thing real fast because there's other people that may not know the term martyred. Uh-huh. Right? Explain what martyred means in in common day language, because a lot of people they they confuse that with well, anyway, I'll let you explain it.

SPEAKER_03 11:54

So the short terminology for our definition of martyrdom is that when someone is dies for their faith, um, they're not just persecuted, they're not just thrown in jail, they're actually killed because they believe. And so we see throughout uh the New Testament times and especially in the book of Hebrews, uh, chapter 11, where we read about the hall of faith and the people of faith. Some believed in God and had incredible lives, others believed in God, same God, and had struggles and disappointments and were martyred for their faith. Um, and we don't know if we choose to be a Christ follower, which path God's going to lead us down. Um, James had obviously an incredible life for probably, you know, 30 years of believing, being a leader in the church there in Jerusalem, but he was eventually martyred, in other words, killed for his faith in Christ. And we have to think of what was going on uh in the in the Roman world at that time because um uh there was still a lot of uh persecution by the Roman government towards the Jewish people and the Christians um because they worshiped another god. And according to the Rome, uh there was only one God, and that was the you know the Roman Emperor. And so they didn't like any other gods being worshipped above the the Emperor of Rome. So you read if you read Roman history in the first century, and it it continued after there was just severe persecution uh of Jewish people and Christian people um for for centuries. And uh it's really sad, but uh James was one of those people that gave his life for his faith. And so that's uh what Martin is.

SPEAKER_01 13:51

Do they give any timelines? Because I mean, I think he was killed at I think you said 62 AD, right? Right. But then he didn't s really start believing till uh so many years as it was it right after Jesus, or uh you know what I'm saying? We don't know for you mentioned 30 years in the church. I didn't know if there was anything there, if it was assumptions or I was just sort of curious, it sort of struck me.

SPEAKER_03 14:15

So well, it's hard to know the exact timeline. Yeah, um uh it's been pretty accurately recorded that Jesus wasn't born on zero, it's not like one BC, he wasn't born, and zero he was born, and you know, uh because Herod, uh we read in the Bible in the in the book of of Luke um and Matthew with uh with the wise men that Herod died in four BC. And so it is believed that Jesus was born prior to four BC, which would have been around five or six BC. Um He had his ministry when he was around 30 years old, so he could have it could have been around 26, 27 A. D. Uh when he started his ministry. And um, and so just think around maybe 28, 29 could possibly be the time of the book of Acts. Uh that would have been uh obviously James was a believer by then. Um and so then you have the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15. Uh we don't know exactly how many years after that. Um it was believed that James wrote the book around 50. Now the the apostle James was martyred in the early 40s AD. We read that in the book of Acts. Um but uh this book was probably written in the 50, early 50s, and then 10 years later, James was martyred for his faith. So so he had a about a 30-year period of time when he lived as a Christ follower um and had a significant role in the early church uh there in Jerusalem and beyond. He stayed, basically stayed in that area. Uh we see that uh Peter moved around Israel. We know that Paul traveled all over the Middle East at that time. Uh James pretty much stayed as his home base there in the Church of Jerusalem. Interesting. But let's just think about that from a leader, just that background from a leadership point of view, okay? Say

Mission Alignment And Leader Patience

SPEAKER_03 16:22

you're the leader of a small company, big company. Doesn't matter right now. This is the principle, this is the question. Um James took a few years before he was totally behind Jesus and his mission.

SPEAKER_02 16:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:37

So so here's a question How long, as a leader, do you work with people if they are not totally behind the mission of your company? Okay. Do you work with them at all? Do you see their potential? Um obviously it varies with different people. You and I've both had to have let people go just because they weren't behind the mission. Um but is there a basic principle um uh for people or a criteria that you use uh if people are there for the mission or they for the money? And how do you make how do you work with an individual um to get them totally behind the mission? Yeah, no, now the money is important, salaries, all that. I'm not downgrading that, but you want someone there not just for the money, you want them there for the mission. And obviously, uh just like um we'll get to uh Peter here soon, the book of Peter. Same thing with Peter. Um Jesus saw the potential in James. We don't have a conversation like we have with Jesus and Peter, but obviously Jesus sees potential in everybody, um, and that potential came to fruition in the in the life of James. And so my question for leaders out there is what potential do you see in your people? Or if there's a problem with the people, do you just kind of give up on them, let them go, try to hire another person? Or do you have a kind of a set uh kind of standard of operating procedures? Yeah, that's that's a good word. What's your tolerance for people that and what do you do if they're not totally behind the mission? Do you have a set protocol to help them get more on board with the mission?

SPEAKER_01 18:26

Right. So and the timeline. I mean, the timeline would be different. I mean, we've told a story about when when uh Jimmy Johnson took over the Cowboys from uh, you know, uh Landry and and uh you know how he ended up getting people on and board with him, you know, either it's either my way or the highway. Hit the door, right? So and uh so yeah, but I mean at the same time, you know, uh some companies I guess it'd be a different, you know, scenario on every we want everybody to follow a mission, but sometimes we just need people that can follow a mirror too, you know, because if I can get three quarters of people following the mission, the other quarter is fogging a mirror because I need that person to pull this lever to get this person who has bought into the mission. So it's a different scenario, and I think everybody needs to look at that from um self-reflection into their company to see where where it needs to be, because that is something that needs to be addressed and and talked about.

SPEAKER_03 19:22

So yeah, and I don't I'm not saying suggesting that we only need yes people. Yeah, that's not that's a whole different subject, you know. We don't need yes people, but we need people behind the mission, yeah. Um, and all on the same page. They have a different view of maybe how we get there, you know, or the timeline of getting there, but they need to be uh committed to the mission. And um that's James wasn't, but then just a few years later he was and he became a leader. So just throw that out for your for the leaders out there today listening to us. And um, you know, you gotta decide for yourself how that's gonna work in your life. So let's just get into uh you know the book of James. Yeah. And

Trials Build Endurance With A Team

SPEAKER_03 20:05

um I I just think that James is writing to uh let's just say a group of of people. Um and uh I think one of the best um he calls it the 12 tribes of the dispersion, so basically Jewish Christians that were outside of their homeland or outside of of um Jerusalem. But it was a tough time to be a Christian. Uh in some areas of the world it's still a very tough time. I mean, uh a lot of persecution for Christians around the world. Um and and so um he's talking about I think leadership that um leaders don't quit in the mace in the face of difficulty. You know, a difficulty really uh reveals your character, reveals your priorities. Um and sometimes we think, well, you know, it'll help maybe I can get defined during that. No, whatever is on the inside is gonna come out on the outside during a difficulty. Yeah, and that's what James is talking about.

SPEAKER_01 21:17

So yeah, I think one of the things that really came out, he's not saying that pain is enjoyable, he's saying that trials can produce steadfastness, and steadfastness can produce the maturity in the behavior of the believer. And I think that's uh that's a pretty cool statement when I was doing my show prep, you know, because a lot of times our goal is not um it's not the the comfort, it's not to stay in the zone a lot of people like it to be, but it it's to uh you know, all encapsulating as far as a goal, you know, and and uh there's gonna be trials and there's gonna be that, but that makes you who you are. I mean. I I think back if if I would have went to work 30 years ago for corporate and been there for 30 years, probably be great spot, right? But at the same time, I wouldn't be the same person either. So it'd be a totally different scenario. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:16

So let me just quote here from uh chapter one, uh re really beginning with verse um two. It says, Consider it per joy, my brothers, when you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything. Now we have to remember this. He's not talking to one person, he's talking to people. And part of being able to persevere um longer is doing it with a group of people, knowing that you have people behind beside you, in front of you, behind you, you're lifting each other up. Other places in the scripture talk, Paul talks about encouraging one another, praying for one another, going through trials for one another. And so it's important if you're going through a difficult time. I've known and I've done this, and that's not been good. Uh, you try to go it alone. You know, you um I know sometimes leadership is a lonely place to be, but if you have a team at all, uh it's important to be transparent as you possibly can and uh share that so everybody knows what it is. Um understanding that yes, it might be a decision that you have to make, but you can get input, you can persevere together, you can think outside the box um about how you're gonna continue. I mean, so many people had to do that several years ago during COVID.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

Right.

SPEAKER_03 23:49

And if you try to get it by yourself, uh it doesn't always work. So uh work with your team if it's a difficult time, and they'll those times will come. And that's why I think uh behunder in between the lines here, uh James is encouraging them, you need to develop those relationships and and that team spirit before the trials come so that when the trials come, you know, it's you can live that out and persevere together.

SPEAKER_01 24:21

Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_03 24:23

Yeah. So um, you know, pressure reveals maturity, it doesn't create maturity. Um and so I just think that's uh and and then we go to the next uh part in and that is uh the uh double-mindedness. Um,

Double Minded Leadership Creates Confusion

SPEAKER_03 24:44

you know, one day you're thinking this, the next day you're thinking that, maybe the third day you're thinking something different. That is so confusing for your people.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

Right.

SPEAKER_03 24:53

You know, uh you can modify your thinking, um, but uh you know, double-mindedness just creates confusion.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_03 25:04

Yeah. And so it's like uh you're custom home builder now for gosh, well over three decades, and you have the foundation poured, you start putting up the walls, and then and then all of a sudden the next day you say, No, we're gonna put the bathroom over there. The next day you go, No, we're gonna put the bathroom over there. Uh that's just confusing for your workers, you know. Yeah. And um, and so if if you're the leader and you one day you say, Hey, this is our mission, this is what we're gonna focus on, and then the next week you say, No, we're not gonna do that, we're gonna do over here. That just deflates the motivation of your people. And so you gotta find the mission, stick with the mission, and um uh like like uh in our notes it says a double-minded leader creates double-minded culture.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

That's great.

SPEAKER_03 25:50

And just confusion. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Yeah, definitely a double-minded leader creates confusion. I I say if you're gonna I don't care if you're a bad leader, just be consistent. So I've said I've said it so many times. Yes, just be consistent. Just be consistent because it when you start going back and forth and we can't read you as employees, and that's that's when things get messed up.

SPEAKER_03 26:12

So the only thing you don't need to be consistent in is rudeness.

SPEAKER_00 26:17

You know, but even those people I can deal with if I know what's coming, then you know what's coming, right?

SPEAKER_01 26:22

So so it's it's one of those things that you can look at. So yeah, I love that. Double-minded leader creates a double-minded culture.

SPEAKER_03 26:30

So yes, and and so um it talks about uh perseverance under trial. Um, and if you do that, there's gonna be a reward of just that, okay, we got through this. Uh, this will help us prepare for the next thing that might come up. Now, your team might be a little different the next time a major trial comes up, but the principle of doing it together is still there. And uh and that's just a good thing because you can rely on that past experience to help you in the future struggles.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

Yeah, I like the one thing that came up. It said that James was ruthless about self-deception. And uh thought that was a strong statement.

SPEAKER_03 27:16

Yeah, very, very strong, very strong. So, yeah. Um the thing about James, okay, so he wasn't a believer in Christ. I mean, he believed that he was a person, you know, he believed that he was a brother, but he didn't believe he was a son of God until you know later. And um and yet this whole book is about okay, if you believe this way, then this is how you should act.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

Right.

SPEAKER_03 27:45

And and so uh to me, before we talk about anything else in the book, it's like okay, if this is your mission, whatever it is, making plastic bottles, you know, uh keeping up a golf course, uh, if that's if that's your mission, then what should you be doing every day to complete that mission? And what should your team be doing? Does everybody know their part um in the in the big scheme of things? And the more they're clear on that, the better the team works. And it's not uh your belief in what you're doing should show up in your actions.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

I've had lots of meetings today, and golf came up like seven times. I'm thinking there's a sign here somewhere.

SPEAKER_03 28:32

Like after you get out of the studio.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

I just think something's there. Everybody's been talking about golf today. Something's going down.

SPEAKER_03 28:40

Right now it's like 100 degrees outside of the studio. And I'm so thankful for air conditioning, whoever invented that is a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 28:48

It's a great time to play golf because nobody's out there with us crazy people playing the city.

SPEAKER_03 28:52

You need to have a tea time of like 6 a.m.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

We always go play at 3:30. I guess you can't do that. Because we can walk on to any golf course and like, yeah, go ahead and just go ahead. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:04

You need an extra five-gallon jug on your golf cart.

SPEAKER_01 29:07

Yeah, so it's it's fun. So I love going playing afternoon golf when it's 100 degrees. Yeah, nobody's out there.

SPEAKER_03 29:13

Sweat like crazy.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

You do, but you go fast because nobody's in front of you.

SPEAKER_03 29:16

No one's in front of you. You don't have to worry about it.

SPEAKER_01 29:18

Maybe a couple college kids suffering it out. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 29:21

So college kids can handle that.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:23

Okay. So

Favoritism Poisons Culture And Trust

SPEAKER_03 29:25

so uh moving on to uh chapter two.

SPEAKER_01 29:28

Chapter two? What? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:30

I think I think uh we'll get to chapter three maybe next week, because the chapter three really focuses on uh your words. And that's that's a whole lesson in itself that we need to take a whole separate podcast to talk about chapter uh three, four, and five. So let's just talk about chapter two as we finish up our podcast today. Um he's basically talking about favoritism.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

Favoritism is what came coming up on me, right?

SPEAKER_03 29:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

Giving special special treatment to a rich person while disarning a poor person was a big, big, big thing.

SPEAKER_03 30:05

So yes, and it happened then, it happened now, it happens in business all the time. Obviously, people are gonna treat their biggest customer better than they're gonna treat their smallest customer. Um, but it's talking about favoritism, and it's like uh it destroys culture. Yeah, you know, it destroys culture.

SPEAKER_01 30:27

And uh he says that it violates the character of God, you know, the the commandment of love thy neighbor. So, you know, that was the big one that he was really, really having problems with. I I love the way this is wrote. I love James because I'm a straight to the point. I I you know I talk about accountability and decisive leadership in my my speaking as is one of my subjects and one of my main subjects, and I I love the way that he's straight to the point. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 30:53

So yeah, and so in between the lines here in chapter two, he's basically said that favoritism in culture is poison because it tells people the standard is for sale, you know. And uh he he he didn't like it, he was he saw it, but he didn't like it, and he's trying to confront that. Um and and basically saying, hey, godly people, we look at everybody the same, you know. There's not one more important. Now you have a customer that might spend a million dollars with you, and another customer that walks in and buys ten dollars worth of stuff. Right, okay, you can still treat both of them with respect. Sure. You know, you don't have to look down on them, you know. Just for example, I walked into uh I was working on uh some drip irrigation at my house. Okay. And I don't I won't say what company it is, but I use this company all the time because they treat me well, and I'm not a big you know, irrigation person, I'm just a homeowner. And so, but my had some uh hydrangeas on the north side of my house that obviously were not getting enough water. So I needed to extend my drip irrigation to them. I walk into this uh irrigation company, and uh I I had the package of the little uh bubblers that I needed, and I said, I need four packages of these. Now, the guy next to me was probably buying, you know, $20,000 worth of irrigation equipment, pipe and you know, valves and all this kind of stuff. But he the guy that was a salesman, he treated me the exact same way as he treated that guy buying $20,000, and I spent about a hundred bucks. You know, that to me is is what James is talking about. You treat everybody with respect, you know. If you're in the restaurant business, um, you know, it doesn't matter if someone comes in and orders a hamburger or someone comes in with 10 people or their volleyball team and buys $200 worth, you're gonna treat everybody with respect. And and that's just good business practice. So that's what James is talking about. Favoritism is not good and uh just creates problems. Um and and so we'll just leave it with that. And um, your faith should show up in your actions and in your words, and we'll talk about the words next week. So, yeah.

Final Dad Jokes And How To Connect

SPEAKER_03 33:18

Anyway, we're getting ready. Boy, about to sign off, but we need some dad jokes. Dad jokes, yes. Well, I have one, but we've I've said this so many times. You know what when a clock is hungry, it goes back for seconds. You know, I just I just that's not that great.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

Uh I'll give it to you.

SPEAKER_03 33:40

Yeah. Okay, so let's just pull up some dad jokes as we finish up. Um and uh let's say here. Oh, I had some and I just uh just lost it. Here we go.

SPEAKER_01 34:01

What did Delaware?

SPEAKER_03 34:05

That did Delaware?

SPEAKER_01 34:06

Yeah, what did Delaware?

SPEAKER_03 34:08

I don't know, pants and a skirt.

SPEAKER_01 34:10

Her New Jersey.

SPEAKER_03 34:11

New Jersey.

SPEAKER_01 34:13

Say that because I gotta call my New Jersey person right after I got the show.

SPEAKER_03 34:17

Did you know that Darth Vader had a brother in federal prison? You're a big Star Wars guy. So did you know that Darth Vader had a brother in federal prison?

SPEAKER_02 34:27

No.

SPEAKER_03 34:28

His name was Taxi. Taxi Vader. Oh, what's wrong with that? Oh, well, let's just see. What else do we got here? Okay, we've got a few more.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

Um why do you never play games in a jungle?

SPEAKER_03 34:54

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

Too many cheetahs.

SPEAKER_03 35:00

You know that for fungi to grow, you must have as much room as possible. Oh people are like, well, okay, what do you call a camel with no humps?

SPEAKER_00 35:20

No clue.

SPEAKER_03 35:21

Hump free.

SPEAKER_00 35:22

Hump free. Nice.

SPEAKER_03 35:28

Well, you got any other uh any other dad jokes for us today as we finish up. You got some stupid ones. Well, that's why they're called dad jokes.

SPEAKER_01 35:36

I thought about golf and and I thought about one uh why would a golfer wear two pairs of pants?

SPEAKER_03 35:40

Because he's might get a hole in one. Uh let's see. One more. Okay. Um why do the utensils in the utensil drawer always get stuck together?

unknown 36:01

I've heard this one.

SPEAKER_03 36:04

Because they were spooning.

SPEAKER_01 36:06

Spooning. Nice. Sort of like I have a joke about construction. But I'm still working on it.

SPEAKER_03 36:17

Why don't I trust people who do acupuncture? Because they're all backstabbers.

SPEAKER_01 36:32

What kind of photos do teeth take? My last one. What kind of photos do teeth take?

SPEAKER_00 36:40

I don't know. Toothpicks.

SPEAKER_03 36:42

Toothpicks. Oh my goodness. Okay. You know, coming over here to the studio this morning, I could not figure out how to put on my seatbelt. And then it clicked. All right.

SPEAKER_01 37:00

We're punched, we're punchy today. So hey, uh, check us out. Biblicalleadership show.com. Send us your prayer request. Send us any text that you want. There's a little chat option up there. Tell us any dad jokes that you uh may know that you want to do it, even though Posey's got like 7,000 and he's looking at a new book to buy. But you know, that's okay. It only has a thousand. It only has a thousand. It's not it's not doubling here. So uh other than that, uh, check us out and um you know, share us with a friend. Yeah. Tell somebody we'd like to get into a few more countries and uh a few more cities around the US. Other than that, Dr.

SPEAKER_03 37:40

P. Take us out. Hey, thanks for joining us. Make it a great day.